Yep it is such a mixed bag. The ship is beautiful and well made. But it makes so many older ships look painfully out of date. Edit: And realizing how much more work they have ahead of them to gold pass those ships plus the large concept backlog.
Yep! With how much CIG was able to fit into such a small form factor compared to the Constellation, it really makes you realize how much wasted space there is in the Constellation, particularly in the bridge section.
In my opinion, the Zeus is one of the - if not the - best made ships in the entire game so far. Not only that it's damn beautiful but also how it was built in the inside... Logical, no waste of space, the MFDs are placed senseful in front of the struts, so they don't block the sight, the ladder down in the front, the storage, the landing lights... I could go on but you get the point. So damn well done, CIG, great job!!!
Well, I get what You are saying, however, the airlock ladder, or entire room is not as good as is should. Same goes for cargo bay, the C1 has ramp, and doors, which work as airlock. ZEUS dont. I still like it, and have the MR, hope it will be out soon :D
Yeah I love the design, I only have issue with Zeus ES - the living quarters should be much better compared to CL... but no, you get a bench and that's it (and a bit more kitchen space)... I find that underwhelming, almost makes me lose my interest in getting the ES variant (roleplaying reasons). I just can't imagine a long range expedition in it - it at least should have had a sofa and table in the living habitat, for a crew to sit around on a long quantum jump :D
2 things: 1, they have already fixed the seat priority to leave the control in the pilots hands at all times if the seat is in use. Not manual control, but better than random priority. And 2, the CL only has 3 shield Generators. The ES is the only variant with 4.
Was just about to comment regarding the shield generators, this was the only reason I went with the ES versus the CL. The extra living space is meaningless to me (except for the extra weapons locker).
Oooh, goody! A new "An Architect Reviews". I've been waiting for a new one. In fact, I like them so much, I'd love to see you go through all sorts of scifi franchises and do those as well.
I love RSI design language. Sleek, angular and sharp, without having any edge lord vibe that most other sharp designs have in other games. RSI basically has all the best parts of Aegis, Drake and Crusader. Aegis sturdiness and functionality. Drake utility and practicality. Crusader sleekness and elegance. With the exception of the conny (i hate the shape of the conny front half), RSI has probably my favorite design language
Well, in case of the Conny you can see, that it is one of the oldest ships in the game. CIG has learned a lot since then. Maybe they will find the time one day for a complete rework of ships like Constellation, Freelancer, Starfarer and other old ships.
This is why the Phoenix is my favorite ship. I love the idea of being a guest and just hanging out in the back. Being able to see outside the ship is by far my favorite feature of a ship.
My fav ship right now. Even recreated and made an epic Trailer for it in KSP. A few things I would change are: Add a window in the hab. Bigger Table in the kitchen for the ES. And the Pilot side ounted on the bottom, so the obstruction over the head isn't there.
The Zeus mk2 will probably be my new favorite ship, simply because the area behind the cockpit is so well thought out. The ladder and airlock are right behind the flight deck entrance and there are suit lockers and a weapons rack right next to it.
I already bought a Zeus ES. Also, I don't know if anyone noticed, but the bunks are also escape pods. If you look at the underside of the Zeus, you'll see two hatches labelled "escape pod." There are right under the bunks. I didn't see a way to seal the bunks, so I'm guessing that CIG will still need to work on the Zeus when escape pods become a thing.
I pledged for the ES at last year's Citizen Con. I weighed the ES or the CL and decided I didn't need the extra cargo of the CL because I have a LTI Concept Hull B that I'm waiting for. Anyway, I popped into the PTU yesterday and walked around and looked at my ES. I haven't had the time to take it out yet, but just walking around it I was reminded of another ship: the Aegis Dynamics Avenger Titan, which I also have. The Zeus Mk2 ES is like a multi-crew version of the Avenger Titan. A cockpit, living quarters, and a cargo bay that isn't very big but seems just right anyway.
These videos are honestly the best possible advertisements for star citizen as a whole, but also well crafted videos in their own right. Keep up the good work!
just a couple of edits Morph: the CL has 3 shield generators, the ES has 4. Also the CL has a size 2 radar and the ES has a size 3, which does make a fairly significant difference in when you see things vs. things seeing you. :D
YES! we need ships to make better use of their volume! No more endless hallways with little space for actual rooms and no more just straight up empty space when comparing the ships floorplan to it's hull! The javelin could be half its current size! I was so dissapointed walking through that thing.
will you ever do an architect reviews for larger capital ships whenever they come out? would really love to see like an hour long review on a polaris or idris :)
it is always stunning to see how CIG improves on the craft of making these ships the actual functionality of them with every little detail which in a lesser game would just be pointless detailing more times then not are actual things that do something. like the missile door opening and closing the side hatch opening up the thrusters (something they have been doing for a while but they are actually logically placed) landing gear doors, counter measure doors, fueling doors, hatches inside for guns and storage and components... like it just feels like so much is thought out in a way that makes these vehicles feel so much more real then vehicles in other games. TRUELY impressive gotta say
I love when your reviews come out! I finally got to test fly it, and it's definitely built with a lot of detail. I almost felt like you had a hand in its design, solidifying many of the principles you've advocated for over the years. They absolutely need to implement this in other ships to balance out the fleet, sooner rather than later. I have the ES currently, I feel it’ll be a great ship to solo pilot and will go along nicely with the other ships in my hangar. o7
Thanks Morph. A few things... the ES comes with more shields and a larger radar. CL comes with 3x size 2 shields and ES with 4x size 2 shields and one large (size 3) radar.
Great to see another Architect Reviews video on such a solid design. Regarding the ES habitation areas, I saw another video that mentioned the bunks are also designed as Escape pods (with visible blow off panels on the exterior) - for whenever that long awaited feature to materialize. So this may have impacted on the placement issue you had issue with. My thought on that couch, besides being overly stiff, is that it faces nothing - as usual for CIG. Needs a big screen or holographic projector for a reason to actually sit there.
The fact this ship had a year-long turn-around time actually gives me hope that the ship design team they have right now might actually be able to complete reworks pretty quickly.
I love this ships interior. It fixes almost every problem I had with the Freelancer Dur. Okay, it has one less spot for a crew mate, but atleast the crew has an actual living area. Copilot ship control is awesome!
Bringing all the old ships up to engineering standards is going to be *so* much work :D But Zeus being this well designed definitely is promising for the future. Some old ships will be looking very different from original concepts, but such is life in an alpha.
A good review and glad I picked up the whole Zeus line. My only critique is instead of a ladder I would have lifted and taken the Connie's front personnel elevator for two and put in up there instead. Have it in the hallway so I could use it to bring up spare/replacement components as well as crew. Then in the spot by the ladder I would have put a chair and engineering console. Sure it could be done from the front seat too, but if you have a guest or just want the engineer next to the components (and fire extinguisher) it would be handy to have them a touch closer.
Now this is a nice ship! I hope CIG will revisit and rework some older ships (like the Freelancer or the Constellation) to get them up to this new standard. The Zeus MK2 seems like a very well planned ship and I like what I see there. Heh can't say that I wasn't sitting here all day checking if you would make a video about it. Always a pleasure to have a deep dive into the new ships, so thanks a lot for this video, keep it up mate!
The problem with the Zeus CL is the awkward cargo bay. It actually has 3 cargo grids, the main one that is 3 high 5 wide and 8 long, and 2 on the sides that are 2 high 1 wide and 2 long. Because of the odd numbers you are looking at a lot of small 2 scu boxes. The ceiling is very close to the top of the grid making stacking more difficult. The narrow ramp means you have to stack the sides first, and it limits the vehicles you can load to ROC or smaller. When full of cargo the ramp cannot be used as an exit point since the cargo,completely blocks it off, meaning you have to exit the ship to unload manually. Finally the tractor beam arm needs to be adjusted to pull boxes in closer. There tends to be a lot of banging into the ship with cargo to get it through the opening and into proper position. And because you are dealing with a lot of small boxes, loading can be a chore. The cargo deck is the one thing that lets down the design, especially when you have the Freelancer Max with its wide open cargo ramp that can fit an Ursa.
I recommend that you say at each beginning of a new video that you actually are an architect. New people watch your videos every day. And someone actually being an architect and someone just having a channel series called that, makes a huge difference
Thanks for the video! 👍 As expected it is the best video out there about this ship. I bought the CL, when it was announced and think, I made a good purchase. My only criticism is the layout of the cargo space. I had hoped for a version similar to the C1, just 4 x 32 SCU instead of 2 × 32 SCU. That would have made for fast loading/unloading, an important feature for a cargo ship. Instead we got a very mixed layout, where you need a lot of different container sizes to utilize the cargo space to it's maximum capacity. Apart from that it is the best designed ship in the game.
I picked up the CL because it fits mt style. A couple points to note is that the bench seats all only seat 2 people. You can also close the airlock while just outside the door and there is a great hiding spot!
Unpopular opinion: I don't like Zeus. I own the ES and the CL and I like the Spirit C1 more. And the RSI is my most favorite manufacturer but I don't like Crusader 😅
Funny, I'd never noticed until you showed it in a closeup that those boots are obviously based on motorcycle boots. They even have the extra reinforcement panel that in real life protects the boot from the shift lever.
As soon as the leaked Zeus videos dropped I'd hoped you were going to mention the lightning in the crew quarters, and I'm not disappointed! Also, I find it curious that the ES has rear facing flood lights when the ramp opens, but not the CL. I wonder how effective they are.
Honestly, I'd love to see a smaller Anvil explorer based on that original Carrack concept, that thing is fire!!! Could be a competitor to the Connie and MSR. You'd probably have to lose the hangar in order to keep those slim proportions, but I'd 100% make that trade in order to get a ship that looks like this 2:162:37
You don't need to apologize for any critics, that's the point of the video - it's YOUR opinion about the ship) Also, I think it's fair to say that credit for Zeus shouldn't go to CIG in general, it's specifically to Montreal team.
Both are great ships but the one design consideration was missed with the CL - most apertures that allow cargo to be loaded are as wide as the cargo size being loaded, eg look at a transit van, the back doors open to expose the width of the cargo area, this makes it easy to load and unload fast. (I believe this was so a pallet could be loaded straight in, reducing load times but not 100% sure) Imagine loading a van, or lorry or cargo container where you could only use one door. They got this right with the C2, freelancer + max, MSR and to some extent the cutty.
Seeing as I just picked up a C1 a few months ago, I won't be trading it for a zeus just yet, but I was shocked at how well this ship is laid out. What may be an interesting video idea is to compare this newest multi-crew ship to one of the oldest, the constellation, to really help paint that picture of how far CIG's design team has come along with their methods.
You always do a good job. I literally wait for your ship reviews!! thank you for taking the time to do them. I always use your videos to help new team mates make choices on what ship will suit them. thanks again!
A few extra things to note here, the Size 4 Rack only supports size 2 missiles, and if you have a full load of cargo in the CL its ***really*** difficult to get them all out, took me and a few other guys about 30-40 mins to do it, I had to detach a stack of crates and use a crate as a mallet to free them enough to take them out.
I really hope the revisit the C1 spirit and Connie line after this, this thing pokes a huge hole in those ships usefulness (especially the c1 having one entrance)
Missiles are also a highly mixed bag. In almost every case except S1s, you're better off with more small missiles than fewer big missiles, not just due to the volume but also in raw damage: 2 S2 missiles will do more damage than 1 S3, and 2 S3 will do more than 1 S4 and so on up the line. This relationship holds even when things jump to S5 torpedo sizes, with the S5 torps being less effective than mount-equivalent smaller missiles.
The Zeus just seems a lot better thought out/implemented than any other ship I have seen. It is not the most powerful thing around but everything in it seems to actually make sense and is well thought out.
It's pretty and well designed but I can't get over it that the airlock vents the whole compartment instead of being a seperate area with two doors like in the RAFT (which has still, in my opinion, the best designed and most realistic interior layout of all the smaller ships).
My only caveat is the size of the hangar door. While the angle is perfect for loading vehicles, this extra mechanical part, ensures that the ship does not fit rovers like the Ursa, even tho the internal space fits them comfortably. The freelancer max that had a much simpler door system can fit them. Really feels like they want to keep those for constellation and up...
The lighting selection seems bugged in the latest PTU patch, but on day 1 of having the ship I changed the ship lighting to flashing red from the switch that’s above you while laying in bed. The light switches throughout the seem bugged now and I had to crouch and get close to the switch to change the lighting. The bridge is changeable to a softer yellow or flashing red. Also you can jump into the well for the ladder and there’s an emergency exit button that opens the ladder door and you can drop out.
Hopefully, we won't need to worry about whether we can see hangar doors, once they create a landing/take off display. Now we need that Connie interior rework even more than we did before.
*My critic is the airlock. That could have been used as both an airlock and a ladder, thus saving room behind the cockpit. Also, the tractor beam arm needs to be longer making it easier to move boxes in and out. Currently it is very difficult. Personally I see the Connie as the superstar of the medium size ships...WHEN it gets it make over....2028.*
My lady Zeus MkII ES IAE, ohh am I delighted they released her into the universe, & how surprised I was when they completed building her before the larger ones within a year’s time. Invested in her development during last year’s IAE.
I think the couch in the living quarters is made that way due to RSI’s utilitarian/professional aesthetic in their company ideology. Else it’s made by cheaper material cost means while providing some use; albeit uncomfortable. This ship was designed to be useful & convenient for their spective[single-modular] purposes, not long-term comfort. Which implies that you will have planned rest stops at checkpoints in the journey. Traveling farther than other similarly sized category ships, but necessitating stopping at ports nonetheless.
I'm really curious how long it's going to take them to retrofit all older ships to become in line with this beauty. The Zeus is looking damn good! Of course, seeing all these improvements come in to CIG's designs make me slightly less impatient for the RSI Apollo Medivac... It'll only get better 👌
16:09 When mentioning the well-placed amenity of a gun locker that can hold a rocket launcher or railgun, I have to think about what Captain Marko Ramius said about most things aboard his ship not reacting too well to bullets...
the only thing that i would like CIG to improve on personally is adding more different texture meterials to ships because looking at this ship every texture just looks like a regular matt paint and there aren't many textures that stand out that. being said this ship does look pretty good
Great ship all in all. Also the soltice skin for it looks amazing. Hope whoever made that one works on more for other ships. Also great that is has the fron ladder. Wish that was a thing on the MSR aswell. I‘d rate it 8/10 because I find somewhat sad that the Ursa doesn‘t fit into it and yeah the pilot seat with obstructed view upwards.
The roof could be a tiny bit higher to leave some leeway with the boxes. And the artificial difference in cargo grid between the 2 models is kind of weird. Other than that, my only complains with the Zeus is how bad it makes C1, Freelancers, MSR, etc. look in terms of space optimization and entrances.
The only reason I wanted the Zeus to come out is because I knew you would make a new "Architect reviews" on it.
I haven't click on a video so fast, this is the only reason CIG should release MOAR ships
this is music to my ears
I second this!
Morph's architect reviews are what got me into Star Citizen initially.
Man, this makes it painfully obvious how badly the Connie series needs a redesign. Can't wait for my Perseus...
If they make the old ships as good as the new ones, they might hurt new sales.... Chris demands MOAR
Yep it is such a mixed bag. The ship is beautiful and well made. But it makes so many older ships look painfully out of date. Edit: And realizing how much more work they have ahead of them to gold pass those ships plus the large concept backlog.
Yep! With how much CIG was able to fit into such a small form factor compared to the Constellation, it really makes you realize how much wasted space there is in the Constellation, particularly in the bridge section.
As a Perseus fan, im happy it took this long, at least itll come out well designed for the current game
In my opinion, the Zeus is one of the - if not the - best made ships in the entire game so far. Not only that it's damn beautiful but also how it was built in the inside... Logical, no waste of space, the MFDs are placed senseful in front of the struts, so they don't block the sight, the ladder down in the front, the storage, the landing lights... I could go on but you get the point. So damn well done, CIG, great job!!!
Well, I get what You are saying, however, the airlock ladder, or entire room is not as good as is should.
Same goes for cargo bay, the C1 has ramp, and doors, which work as airlock. ZEUS dont.
I still like it, and have the MR, hope it will be out soon :D
i feel like each new ship will be "one of the best designed ships in the game" which is a good thing it shows that CIG is always improving
Yeah I love the design, I only have issue with Zeus ES - the living quarters should be much better compared to CL... but no, you get a bench and that's it (and a bit more kitchen space)... I find that underwhelming, almost makes me lose my interest in getting the ES variant (roleplaying reasons).
I just can't imagine a long range expedition in it - it at least should have had a sofa and table in the living habitat, for a crew to sit around on a long quantum jump :D
They should have put the ladder outside of the airlock and use the space of the ladder inside for something else
I completely agree!
2 things:
1, they have already fixed the seat priority to leave the control in the pilots hands at all times if the seat is in use. Not manual control, but better than random priority.
And 2, the CL only has 3 shield Generators. The ES is the only variant with 4.
Good thing I looked for this comment before I replied.
Was just about to comment regarding the shield generators, this was the only reason I went with the ES versus the CL. The extra living space is meaningless to me (except for the extra weapons locker).
Oooh, goody! A new "An Architect Reviews". I've been waiting for a new one.
In fact, I like them so much, I'd love to see you go through all sorts of scifi franchises and do those as well.
This!
NO! Just Star Citizen! ;)
@@pirateradio8420 🤫
I love RSI design language. Sleek, angular and sharp, without having any edge lord vibe that most other sharp designs have in other games.
RSI basically has all the best parts of Aegis, Drake and Crusader.
Aegis sturdiness and functionality.
Drake utility and practicality.
Crusader sleekness and elegance.
With the exception of the conny (i hate the shape of the conny front half), RSI has probably my favorite design language
Well, in case of the Conny you can see, that it is one of the oldest ships in the game. CIG has learned a lot since then. Maybe they will find the time one day for a complete rework of ships like Constellation, Freelancer, Starfarer and other old ships.
Hooray! Morph! You definitely said "In this latest Insulation of an Architect Reviews"!
You can never have enough insulation in cold climates like Microtech.
@@Morphologis ...and space itself ... ;)
Here I was thinking he said latest installation 😂
@@Wildjesta it is very cold in spaaaace
This is why the Phoenix is my favorite ship. I love the idea of being a guest and just hanging out in the back. Being able to see outside the ship is by far my favorite feature of a ship.
That "Thissss" at the start had me feeling like we were about to hear about the Zues Mark 2's quirks and features.
Hoping, praying, begging. To see the Polaris review when it comes out
its the most anticipated upcoming capital... ya really think he would miss this chance?
My fav ship right now. Even recreated and made an epic Trailer for it in KSP.
A few things I would change are: Add a window in the hab. Bigger Table in the kitchen for the ES. And the Pilot side ounted on the bottom, so the obstruction over the head isn't there.
The Zeus mk2 will probably be my new favorite ship, simply because the area behind the cockpit is so well thought out. The ladder and airlock are right behind the flight deck entrance and there are suit lockers and a weapons rack right next to it.
I already bought a Zeus ES. Also, I don't know if anyone noticed, but the bunks are also escape pods. If you look at the underside of the Zeus, you'll see two hatches labelled "escape pod." There are right under the bunks. I didn't see a way to seal the bunks, so I'm guessing that CIG will still need to work on the Zeus when escape pods become a thing.
I'm so excited for this glorious beast!
She's almost in my hands ALMOST!!!!
More convenient entrances is a huge plus over the tedious Crusader rear ramp
I pledged for the ES at last year's Citizen Con. I weighed the ES or the CL and decided I didn't need the extra cargo of the CL because I have a LTI Concept Hull B that I'm waiting for.
Anyway, I popped into the PTU yesterday and walked around and looked at my ES. I haven't had the time to take it out yet, but just walking around it I was reminded of another ship: the Aegis Dynamics Avenger Titan, which I also have. The Zeus Mk2 ES is like a multi-crew version of the Avenger Titan. A cockpit, living quarters, and a cargo bay that isn't very big but seems just right anyway.
It feels like a Nomad for more than one person.
These videos are honestly the best possible advertisements for star citizen as a whole, but also well crafted videos in their own right. Keep up the good work!
just a couple of edits Morph: the CL has 3 shield generators, the ES has 4. Also the CL has a size 2 radar and the ES has a size 3, which does make a fairly significant difference in when you see things vs. things seeing you. :D
Always nice to see AR’s from Morph
so glad to see this kind of video again. For a second Zoos looked like a Carrack
YES! we need ships to make better use of their volume! No more endless hallways with little space for actual rooms and no more just straight up empty space when comparing the ships floorplan to it's hull! The javelin could be half its current size! I was so dissapointed walking through that thing.
will you ever do an architect reviews for larger capital ships whenever they come out? would really love to see like an hour long review on a polaris or idris :)
it is always stunning to see how CIG improves on the craft of making these ships
the actual functionality of them with every little detail which in a lesser game would just be pointless detailing more times then not are actual things that do something.
like the missile door opening and closing
the side hatch opening up
the thrusters (something they have been doing for a while but they are actually logically placed)
landing gear doors, counter measure doors, fueling doors, hatches inside for guns and storage and components...
like it just feels like so much is thought out in a way that makes these vehicles feel so much more real then vehicles in other games.
TRUELY impressive gotta say
i love how you can see the missiles underneath the copilot seats, also the suit lockers i believe are also escape pods
I love when your reviews come out!
I finally got to test fly it, and it's definitely built with a lot of detail. I almost felt like you had a hand in its design, solidifying many of the principles you've advocated for over the years. They absolutely need to implement this in other ships to balance out the fleet, sooner rather than later. I have the ES currently, I feel it’ll be a great ship to solo pilot and will go along nicely with the other ships in my hangar.
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The Zeus mkII is def the best designed ship CIG has EVER released.
i t isnt released. it is still 'in concept'.
@@easterworshipper5579 no, it’s not
@@easterworshipper5579 it’s out in ptu and will be out next pu patch
Thanks Morph. A few things... the ES comes with more shields and a larger radar. CL comes with 3x size 2 shields and ES with 4x size 2 shields and one large (size 3) radar.
Great to see another Architect Reviews video on such a solid design.
Regarding the ES habitation areas, I saw another video that mentioned the bunks are also designed as Escape pods (with visible blow off panels on the exterior) - for whenever that long awaited feature to materialize. So this may have impacted on the placement issue you had issue with.
My thought on that couch, besides being overly stiff, is that it faces nothing - as usual for CIG. Needs a big screen or holographic projector for a reason to actually sit there.
You should try filling the cargo grid to capacity in CL. It's horrendous like playing tetris in the back of your spaceship, but yes it does look cool.
The fact this ship had a year-long turn-around time actually gives me hope that the ship design team they have right now might actually be able to complete reworks pretty quickly.
The ramp clips through the terrain FINALLY no more sending my ship into the atmosphere trying to board it.
I love this ships interior. It fixes almost every problem I had with the Freelancer Dur. Okay, it has one less spot for a crew mate, but atleast the crew has an actual living area.
Copilot ship control is awesome!
Bringing all the old ships up to engineering standards is going to be *so* much work :D But Zeus being this well designed definitely is promising for the future. Some old ships will be looking very different from original concepts, but such is life in an alpha.
A good review and glad I picked up the whole Zeus line. My only critique is instead of a ladder I would have lifted and taken the Connie's front personnel elevator for two and put in up there instead. Have it in the hallway so I could use it to bring up spare/replacement components as well as crew. Then in the spot by the ladder I would have put a chair and engineering console. Sure it could be done from the front seat too, but if you have a guest or just want the engineer next to the components (and fire extinguisher) it would be handy to have them a touch closer.
Minor correction: The ES has four size 2 shields. The CL and MR only have three size 2 shields.
really loved the viewable missile racks of the andromeda and the og retaliator. glad they're back and even better
Now this is a nice ship!
I hope CIG will revisit and rework some older ships (like the Freelancer or the Constellation) to get them up to this new standard.
The Zeus MK2 seems like a very well planned ship and I like what I see there.
Heh can't say that I wasn't sitting here all day checking if you would make a video about it.
Always a pleasure to have a deep dive into the new ships, so thanks a lot for this video, keep it up mate!
i love it! i love that you can walk outside from the airlock. It's like a real ship.
The problem with the Zeus CL is the awkward cargo bay. It actually has 3 cargo grids, the main one that is 3 high 5 wide and 8 long, and 2 on the sides that are 2 high 1 wide and 2 long. Because of the odd numbers you are looking at a lot of small 2 scu boxes. The ceiling is very close to the top of the grid making stacking more difficult. The narrow ramp means you have to stack the sides first, and it limits the vehicles you can load to ROC or smaller. When full of cargo the ramp cannot be used as an exit point since the cargo,completely blocks it off, meaning you have to exit the ship to unload manually. Finally the tractor beam arm needs to be adjusted to pull boxes in closer. There tends to be a lot of banging into the ship with cargo to get it through the opening and into proper position. And because you are dealing with a lot of small boxes, loading can be a chore. The cargo deck is the one thing that lets down the design, especially when you have the Freelancer Max with its wide open cargo ramp that can fit an Ursa.
Since the Zeus MKII made it to PTU i've been eagerly waiting for this video
I recommend that you say at each beginning of a new video that you actually are an architect.
New people watch your videos every day.
And someone actually being an architect and someone just having a channel series called that, makes a huge difference
Picked mine up as soon as they presented it last year. Can't wait for the MR to come out hopefully next year.
I love the C1, and given the shape of the C1 I think they did the best they could've with the interior layout.
Thanks for the video! 👍
As expected it is the best video out there about this ship. I bought the CL, when it was announced and think, I made a good purchase.
My only criticism is the layout of the cargo space. I had hoped for a version similar to the C1, just 4 x 32 SCU instead of 2 × 32 SCU. That would have made for fast loading/unloading, an important feature for a cargo ship. Instead we got a very mixed layout, where you need a lot of different container sizes to utilize the cargo space to it's maximum capacity.
Apart from that it is the best designed ship in the game.
I picked up the CL because it fits mt style. A couple points to note is that the bench seats all only seat 2 people. You can also close the airlock while just outside the door and there is a great hiding spot!
20:00 the zeus cl has 3 size 2 shields, only the es has 4
Unpopular opinion: I don't like Zeus. I own the ES and the CL and I like the Spirit C1 more. And the RSI is my most favorite manufacturer but I don't like Crusader 😅
I like the C1 more, but the decisions in terms of cargo optimizations and the wingspan are stupid.
I like how the C1 flies and looks, it's interior is a bit cramped though, it's just a hallway and a cargo hold.
These new ships are purdy but it is th exact same feel and excitement when the MSR came out. Still, the Constellation Taurus is a better daily driver.
Man, I haven't viewed much when it comes to SC in quite a bit. But I have not forgotten how much I enjoy your reviews of these ships.
Funny, I'd never noticed until you showed it in a closeup that those boots are obviously based on motorcycle boots. They even have the extra reinforcement panel that in real life protects the boot from the shift lever.
As soon as the leaked Zeus videos dropped I'd hoped you were going to mention the lightning in the crew quarters, and I'm not disappointed!
Also, I find it curious that the ES has rear facing flood lights when the ramp opens, but not the CL. I wonder how effective they are.
Honestly, I'd love to see a smaller Anvil explorer based on that original Carrack concept, that thing is fire!!! Could be a competitor to the Connie and MSR. You'd probably have to lose the hangar in order to keep those slim proportions, but I'd 100% make that trade in order to get a ship that looks like this 2:16 2:37
At 6:10 he calls out my whole science club lol.
You don't need to apologize for any critics, that's the point of the video - it's YOUR opinion about the ship)
Also, I think it's fair to say that credit for Zeus shouldn't go to CIG in general, it's specifically to Montreal team.
the ES variant is the only one with 4xS2 shields, the CL and MR have 3xS2 shields
15:38 tattoos in SC is exciting.
Both are great ships but the one design consideration was missed with the CL - most apertures that allow cargo to be loaded are as wide as the cargo size being loaded, eg look at a transit van, the back doors open to expose the width of the cargo area, this makes it easy to load and unload fast. (I believe this was so a pallet could be loaded straight in, reducing load times but not 100% sure) Imagine loading a van, or lorry or cargo container where you could only use one door. They got this right with the C2, freelancer + max, MSR and to some extent the cutty.
Wake me up when the constellation is this well polished and nice.
Seeing as I just picked up a C1 a few months ago, I won't be trading it for a zeus just yet, but I was shocked at how well this ship is laid out. What may be an interesting video idea is to compare this newest multi-crew ship to one of the oldest, the constellation, to really help paint that picture of how far CIG's design team has come along with their methods.
My condolences.
You always do a good job. I literally wait for your ship reviews!! thank you for taking the time to do them. I always use your videos to help new team mates make choices on what ship will suit them. thanks again!
Like @CaptEirikr, seeing and owning the Zeus just highlights how much more help a ship like the MSR needs.
A few extra things to note here, the Size 4 Rack only supports size 2 missiles, and if you have a full load of cargo in the CL its ***really*** difficult to get them all out, took me and a few other guys about 30-40 mins to do it, I had to detach a stack of crates and use a crate as a mallet to free them enough to take them out.
I really hope the revisit the C1 spirit and Connie line after this, this thing pokes a huge hole in those ships usefulness (especially the c1 having one entrance)
I can't wait to see a Architect review on the Polaris, when ever that comes out!
Missiles are also a highly mixed bag. In almost every case except S1s, you're better off with more small missiles than fewer big missiles, not just due to the volume but also in raw damage: 2 S2 missiles will do more damage than 1 S3, and 2 S3 will do more than 1 S4 and so on up the line. This relationship holds even when things jump to S5 torpedo sizes, with the S5 torps being less effective than mount-equivalent smaller missiles.
The Zeus just seems a lot better thought out/implemented than any other ship I have seen. It is not the most powerful thing around but everything in it seems to actually make sense and is well thought out.
It's pretty and well designed but I can't get over it that the airlock vents the whole compartment instead of being a seperate area with two doors like in the RAFT (which has still, in my opinion, the best designed and most realistic interior layout of all the smaller ships).
My only caveat is the size of the hangar door. While the angle is perfect for loading vehicles, this extra mechanical part, ensures that the ship does not fit rovers like the Ursa, even tho the internal space fits them comfortably.
The freelancer max that had a much simpler door system can fit them. Really feels like they want to keep those for constellation and up...
morphologis you be cooking
Noice - ngl, RSI's new interiors are lookin more Crusader than ever...
I really hope the MSR gets the same forward ladder entrance.
For the cl i would have made the loading ramp larger it is difficult to load anything larger than an 8 scu box
This had me mad excited for the Galaxy.
I just wanted to say i appreciate your aspect ratio as a mobile viewer its soooo clean
As a 10+ Year Connie owner, I'm just hoping that gets brought up to this exceptional standard... and level of cockpit visibility.
The lighting selection seems bugged in the latest PTU patch, but on day 1 of having the ship I changed the ship lighting to flashing red from the switch that’s above you while laying in bed. The light switches throughout the seem bugged now and I had to crouch and get close to the switch to change the lighting. The bridge is changeable to a softer yellow or flashing red. Also you can jump into the well for the ladder and there’s an emergency exit button that opens the ladder door and you can drop out.
Hopefully, we won't need to worry about whether we can see hangar doors, once they create a landing/take off display. Now we need that Connie interior rework even more than we did before.
I'm loving my new Zeus'. Can't wait till you do a review of the polaris next month.
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I want the zeus to try the "explorer" gameplay. Also, i wanna try to put some decorations on those shelves and lots of food an drinks in the kitchen 😂
*My critic is the airlock. That could have been used as both an airlock and a ladder, thus saving room behind the cockpit. Also, the tractor beam arm needs to be longer making it easier to move boxes in and out. Currently it is very difficult. Personally I see the Connie as the superstar of the medium size ships...WHEN it gets it make over....2028.*
My lady Zeus MkII ES IAE, ohh am I delighted they released her into the universe, & how surprised I was when they completed building her before the larger ones within a year’s time. Invested in her development during last year’s IAE.
I think the couch in the living quarters is made that way due to RSI’s utilitarian/professional aesthetic in their company ideology. Else it’s made by cheaper material cost means while providing some use; albeit uncomfortable. This ship was designed to be useful & convenient for their spective[single-modular] purposes, not long-term comfort. Which implies that you will have planned rest stops at checkpoints in the journey. Traveling farther than other similarly sized category ships, but necessitating stopping at ports nonetheless.
Hoping she can carry a Rover in her cargo bay.
And set Pico on the couch 🐧
This makes me want to see a Conny revamp even more
I'm really curious how long it's going to take them to retrofit all older ships to become in line with this beauty. The Zeus is looking damn good!
Of course, seeing all these improvements come in to CIG's designs make me slightly less impatient for the RSI Apollo Medivac... It'll only get better 👌
16:09 When mentioning the well-placed amenity of a gun locker that can hold a rocket launcher or railgun, I have to think about what Captain Marko Ramius said about most things aboard his ship not reacting too well to bullets...
Nice! 'Hunt for Red October' reference!
the only thing that i would like CIG to improve on personally is adding more different texture meterials to ships because looking at this ship every texture just looks like a regular matt paint and there aren't many textures that stand out that. being said this ship does look pretty good
I'll thank the Montreal designers that came up with
Yes they are getting good at it but they need another ship team to be fixing older ships as fast as they issue a new ship.
Fingers crossed for the review of the Aegis Sneed on day🤞
As always top-notch review. Only dispute the point on maneuverability and speed Crusader Spirits have the advantage.
I bought the CL version, I look forward to when it hits the live servers.
thought i would by the zeus cargo when it comes out but after watching plenty videos of it ive come to love my c1 even more
That was dirty using the carrack concept art😂😂😂😂
Great ship all in all. Also the soltice skin for it looks amazing. Hope whoever made that one works on more for other ships. Also great that is has the fron ladder. Wish that was a thing on the MSR aswell. I‘d rate it 8/10 because I find somewhat sad that the Ursa doesn‘t fit into it and yeah the pilot seat with obstructed view upwards.
Ursa doesn’t fit into the CL version?
The roof could be a tiny bit higher to leave some leeway with the boxes. And the artificial difference in cargo grid between the 2 models is kind of weird.
Other than that, my only complains with the Zeus is how bad it makes C1, Freelancers, MSR, etc. look in terms of space optimization and entrances.
And he is back with the video we have all been waiting for!
I’m sure if any ship design team members are watching this they’re repeatedly pumping their fists in joy.
Looking forward to the MR!
I bought the RSI Zeus Mark II a year ago… needless to say, I’ve been ready for this for awhile