Everyone acting like 6-8 mountain west teams will just jump because its the "pac-12". This is not the actual pac-12 but a shell of conference that once was.... Lots of instability to gain very little... If Im any of the top 8 Mnt West teams, im trying to win the Mtn West and make it to the play-offs, get my stock up, and hope for a big-12 invite when a team inevitably leaves... TLDR; Just because the Pac-2 has the money, doesn't mean they have the power to get whatever teams they want.
The "war chest" is not a rainy day fund. OSU and especially WSU need the money to pay down and restructure debt incurred during the Pac 12 facility and venue "arms race" of the last 15-20 years. Their debts are lower than those of other schools (UW, Cal, and UCLA to name a few) but it is part of the discussion. Will they pay the exit fees for other schools? Has anyone ever done that before? Getting someone else to pay sounds more plausible.
Rebuilding the PAC with 5-6 MW schools and 4-5 AAC schools while leaving room for ACC castoffs is the plan that makes the most sense to me. You can never rebuild the conference that will immediately be recognized as a power conference, but they can absolutely build one that deserves respect and sets itself up to elevate itself through its play.
@@LockedOnCollegeFootball Wrong, u are just wishful thinking. The teams that will be left in the ACC after the 3 big confs gets done taking from them will be laughable and will never add up to make a good conf they will only hurt a conf just ask the ACC that's the problem the ACC is having now. Just let the Pac12 name die with dignity instead of turning it into a non-power conf.
@TimmyPruitt166 I think what messed up the P4 status was the Big 12 accidentally adding Houston and BYU. If Houston and BYU never got invited to the Big 12, the Pac 12 could have easily Added Houston, BYU,Standford and Cal would have stayed ,and added SMU, SDSU,Boise State ,Colorado State, Fresno State, Air Force, UNLV, Rice (Standford and Cal) with Washington State and Oregon State ( maybe Tulsa).
My plan for the new Pac-X: Oregon State and Washington State. Add Boise State, Fresno State, San Diego State, UNLV, Tulane and Memphis first to get to 8 teams (minimum for FBS consideration.). Then add San Jose State (SF Bay Area), Colorado State (Denver), North Texas (Dallas) and Rice (Houston) to get to 12 teams, for a bigger TV audience potential. Pick up Air Force, UTSA, New Mexico State and Louisiana (all good football programs) to get to 16. Then pick up an Eastern division with Liberty, James Madison, Appalachian State and Coastal Carolina. (USF would be a candidate, but is probably going to the ACC, and isn't great at football anyway.)
Exactly! Imagine WSU & OSU giving away $67 to $100 million and later asking for people to pay for seat licenses, suites and make donations towards things like indoor practice facilities. What a way to make their alumni turn on them. Schools like SDSU, Boise State, Fresno State, UNLV, Colorado State and the others can pay their own way. $10 million apiece is money they can all each raise. Same for other G-5 schools.
@@teacherjoe7019 Plus, doesn't OSU have a debt bond to pay back for the stadium renovation? And hasn't WSU ran a deficit for several years, even with PAC 12 money.
@@Alohanate2004 Yes, WSU has been pressured to keep up with UW which is in heavy debt while OSU has been trying to keep up with Oregon which has a benefactor with bottomless pockets. They have to recruit! Being revenue neutral after all these years before equal revenue has been such setback. Getting out of this hole is going to be tough, so frivolous spending is out of the question.
@@LockedOnCollegeFootballMissed the point again. Why spend the money to rebuild a conference when you can take that money and properly fund your athletic departments for years to come.
I don’t know if OSU WSU want to create a coast to coast conference if their going to play G5 football I don’t think they want travel problems like their in the ACC
The best teams in the group of 5 to add logistically, and somewhat geographically... Mountain West- BSU, SDSU, USU, FSU, CSU, UNLV, USAF Texas Teams- TSU, UTSA, Sam Houston
Given the fact that UCLA has to pay Cal millions of dollars for leaving them behind, I doubt the Cal State schools will be separated. The precedent has been set. The Cal State schools are a package deal.
Rebuilding the PAC 12 is and should be the first option, not a “fallback” option, even if they get an offer from the Big 12 or ACC (which is about to implode, like the PAC 12 did). Stanford and Cal made a huge mistake going to the ACC and they will eventually come back.
An idea I mention often is the MW penalty could easily be repaid by MW schools through a reduction in media money. The PAC has the money to pay the penalty outright, but If the rebuilt PAC media deal is better than the MW deal by a large margin then the PAC could treat the penalty more like a loan to the incoming MW schools rather than an outright payment to the MW. Not a guarantee of course, just saying there’s creative ways to work with money as long as media dollars are there for the rebuilt PAC.
Any MWC school that is interested, has a duty to raise their own funds. Nearly half of them already built new stadiums or are planning renovations. Let's say I'm Colorado State and I'm the only one of the schools within 3 hours of Denver (Colorado, Wyoming, Air Force) that has spent money on their stadium (they built a new one), I think I could find my own money to leave the MWC and join the new PAC.
@@teacherjoe7019 For sure and that would be the case for the exit fee, but the escalating $10mil penalty that the PAC has to pay to the MW for poaching teams is the fee that I think could be treated more like a loan. I believe exit fees are usually paid out over time and not in a lump sum anyway, so any MW team worth poaching is capable of paying $17 mil over multiple years.
@@Pattyboyistheman MW teams would be incentivized with the chance to join a higher profile conference (just what as far as name recognition goes) and leave behind the lower tier of the MW. Basically the school with high value take their value and add it to the PAC to theoretically create a better media deal than would be available through a merger. Also if the PAC grabs the top of the AAC, then the PAC becomes the best G5 by far and becomes the conference that gets the 5th auto-bid to the CFP 99% of the time rather than competing with the AAC to get that auto-bid half the time. The best MW teams hold power, but that doesn’t mean they’ll use that power for the benefit of the rest of the MW. Joining the PAC is likely much more beneficial to them.
Why would any MW schools want to join the PAC2? Prestige- not any more Stability- even OSU/WSU want to jump to a better conference than the PAC2 Money- big exit fees for MW schools to leave The Mtn West is on the drivers seat. Not the schools (OSU/WSU) that were cast off Power 5 island.
No one has mentioned the fact that the Pac 12 did not sign the new CFP agreement. So any team that joins the Pac cannot get in the playoff. Look it up. Best case scenario they have to hope they are included in the 2027 look in clause (why SEC and Big ten would let them in, I dont know). Worst case pac 12 cannot make the playoffs until the next contract in 2031. MW, no matter how depleted, still would be able to make the playoff each year.
@@LockedOnCollegeFootballNot the point I was making but ok. Contractually PAC 12 can't get in until they are allowed in by signing the CFP playoff contract
I would like to see the New PAC 12 focus on teams on or West of the Mississippi River: 1. Oregon State 2. Washington State 3. Boise State 4. San Diego State 5. Fresno State 6. Memphis 7. Tulane 8. UNLV 9. UTSA 10. Colorado State 11. Rice 12. Tulsa
Spencer, I agree that a trophy is in order ... for the next 2 years ... to mark these tumultuous 2-4 years in the history of the PAC. The trophy, whatever it will be called, will punctuate the solid determination of the "PAC-2" to keep the PAC-12 alive and flourishing.
From the MW, take Boise State, San Diego State, UNLV, and Colorado State. From the American, take UTSA, Rice, Tulane, and Memphis. From the WCC, take Gonzaga and St. Mary's. Wa la, new PAC 12. Fewer sports to affiliate in, more media markets, and about as "western" as you can hope for. A media deal could net somewhere between 1/3-1/2 of what the Big 12 gets per school, which is top of the G5 by far.
The six MWC schools I’d add if I’m OSU/WSU are Boise State, San Diego State, Fresno State, Colorado State, UNLV, and Wyoming. I don’t think Air Force would be allowed by the Pentagon to join the PAC-12, and I think they may even take the opportunity themselves to leave the MW and join their other military academies in the AAC.
I’d really like to see a video with your thoughts on which AAC schools the PAC 12 could potentially poach. I feel like most of the time it’s all about the MWC, but AAC has some intriguing options too!
@@scottyclayton2501I completely disagree. The Pac12 falling apart and the MW’s current media deal show that regionality on the west coast is not valuable. Maybe they wouldn’t be eager to grab USF, but I think the Pac would love to grab Texas area schools and Tulane/Memphis.
@@stevedonnie4077 Mountain West media deal is slightly behind the AAC and 2nd in the G5. OSU and WSU would probably make it beat the AAC. I could see a PAC 12 trying to be like the AAC and claim their a power conference (their “P6” and “Power” campaigns). With coast to coast teams but if they accept that they are G5 teams I don’t think they want to fly to Florida
@@scottyclayton2501 I think the only way they go east of Memphis/Tulane is if the future PAC media deal somehow is excellent money or if the ACC truly collapses and there are castoff teams available without a home. Either way though I think they try to take the top off of the AAC and be the head-and-shoulders best G5 so they can claim they’re basically a power conference.
I am a proponent of taking all Mountain West teams but as an alternative to poaching 6-8 teams why not take 9. A vote of 9 schools in the Mountain West can dissolve the league. The nine that would want to join the Pac could do that via this route. Again, I would prefer a full reverse merger.
@@LockedOnCollegeFootball It is comments like that, that make me think that you really have no idea what you are talking about. Taking 9 or more teams is free. Those nine have the ability to vote for a dissolution of the MWC. If the MWC is dissolved then there are no exit fees to pay.
@@Josh1888USU Actually not free. Taking 9 schools dissolves the conference so no exit fees, but still have to pay the scheduling agreement penalty for 9 schools, which is about $100 million
@@Alohanate2004 pay it to who? If the conference no longer exists then who would receive the penalty fees? Regardless, how I think it happens is that the ACC falls apart with somewhere between 6-8 teams remaining. The ACC then comes looking for OSU, WSU, SDSU, Memphis, Boise, Fresno, etc. And do that once our TV deal is up so they get them all for free. The ACC never signed the scheduling agreement so they wouldn't owe the MWC anything.
The Pac2 poaching the best G5 teams is inevitable -- they would be leaving too much money on the table not to. Joining the MWC is too big of a dropoff financially. They will take the top MWC teams, the top AAC teams, and a few from the Sunbelt, C-USA, and maybe the MAC. The new Pac-X TV deal should be about 3x the MWC TV deal (and about half the Big12 level), plus they will be much better positioned to get college football playoff money (with the 5th auto-bid to their conference champion most years) and basketball tournament money (think San Diego State, Memphis, etc.)
Army, Navy, and Airforce will be in the PAC12. Hallelujah! The armed forces series! Great! Cal is almost assuredly coming home. Stanford maybe. Boise State Tulane This might just end up becoming one hell of a conference.
They PAC 12 should reform as the WCC and reacquire, Southern California, UCLA, Colorado, and Washington. You only need eight total teams. But those teams must be TV worthy in order to secure a great deal. Nobody in the right mind watches Mountain West football. I don’t even know who’s in the mountain west conference. Do you?
The MWC gave WSU/OSU a scheduling lifeline for 2 years and you want to stab 6 of those schools in the back? That is huge bad karma. Would a PAC-8 make that much more per team vs a 14 or 16 team PAC-12 with less inventory? I don’t think so. Do a reverse merger, save the war chest. With 14 teams, they should add 3 Texas schools UNT, UTSA and Rice or Texas St. Work out a deal with Hawaii to become as associate PAC-12 member. Then have 8 of the 16 teams play Hawaii in HI each year and gain a 13th game which you can package as late after dark Friday night games. Hawaii would only play 2 PAC-12 on the road each year against 4 west coast teams ( SDSU, SJST, UNLV or Fresno). If WSU/OSU end up getting an ACC backfill invite, then the PAC-12 cab backfill with Tulsa & Tulane or UTEP.
Everyone acting like 6-8 mountain west teams will just jump because its the "pac-12". This is not the actual pac-12 but a shell of conference that once was.... Lots of instability to gain very little... If Im any of the top 8 Mnt West teams, im trying to win the Mtn West and make it to the play-offs, get my stock up, and hope for a big-12 invite when a team inevitably leaves...
TLDR; Just because the Pac-2 has the money, doesn't mean they have the power to get whatever teams they want.
Exactly!!!
If they make a strong enough pitch, they will jump
When has any of these administrators ever turned down more money and prestige?
The "war chest" is not a rainy day fund. OSU and especially WSU need the money to pay down and restructure debt incurred during the Pac 12 facility and venue "arms race" of the last 15-20 years. Their debts are lower than those of other schools (UW, Cal, and UCLA to name a few) but it is part of the discussion. Will they pay the exit fees for other schools? Has anyone ever done that before? Getting someone else to pay sounds more plausible.
All this is speculative without a media rights deal that covers more than two programs.
Rebuilding the PAC with 5-6 MW schools and 4-5 AAC schools while leaving room for ACC castoffs is the plan that makes the most sense to me. You can never rebuild the conference that will immediately be recognized as a power conference, but they can absolutely build one that deserves respect and sets itself up to elevate itself through its play.
I think that plan can work
@@LockedOnCollegeFootball Wrong, u are just wishful thinking. The teams that will be left in the ACC after the 3 big confs gets done taking from them will be laughable and will never add up to make a good conf they will only hurt a conf just ask the ACC that's the problem the ACC is having now. Just let the Pac12 name die with dignity instead of turning it into a non-power conf.
@TimmyPruitt166 I think what messed up the P4 status was the Big 12 accidentally adding Houston and BYU. If Houston and BYU never got invited to the Big 12, the Pac 12 could have easily Added Houston, BYU,Standford and Cal would have stayed ,and added SMU, SDSU,Boise State ,Colorado State, Fresno State, Air Force, UNLV, Rice (Standford and Cal) with Washington State and Oregon State ( maybe Tulsa).
My plan for the new Pac-X:
Oregon State and Washington State. Add Boise State, Fresno State, San Diego State, UNLV, Tulane and Memphis first to get to 8 teams (minimum for FBS consideration.). Then add San Jose State (SF Bay Area), Colorado State (Denver), North Texas (Dallas) and Rice (Houston) to get to 12 teams, for a bigger TV audience potential. Pick up Air Force, UTSA, New Mexico State and Louisiana (all good football programs) to get to 16. Then pick up an Eastern division with Liberty, James Madison, Appalachian State and Coastal Carolina. (USF would be a candidate, but is probably going to the ACC, and isn't great at football anyway.)
The Pac-2 rebuild take take reminds me of your old Pac-12 takes before that conference collapsed. How'd that workout?😂
Its way more expensive. This money does not include OSU and WSU Athletic Budgets for 2 years. Also not include the house money...
Exactly! Imagine WSU & OSU giving away $67 to $100 million and later asking for people to pay for seat licenses, suites and make donations towards things like indoor practice facilities. What a way to make their alumni turn on them. Schools like SDSU, Boise State, Fresno State, UNLV, Colorado State and the others can pay their own way. $10 million apiece is money they can all each raise. Same for other G-5 schools.
@@teacherjoe7019 Plus, doesn't OSU have a debt bond to pay back for the stadium renovation?
And hasn't WSU ran a deficit for several years, even with PAC 12 money.
@@Alohanate2004 Yes, WSU has been pressured to keep up with UW which is in heavy debt while OSU has been trying to keep up with Oregon which has a benefactor with bottomless pockets. They have to recruit! Being revenue neutral after all these years before equal revenue has been such setback. Getting out of this hole is going to be tough, so frivolous spending is out of the question.
$67.5M for 6 MW schools
4 AAC schools prob costs around another $40-50M
That's still about $100M leftover, I think they can survive
@@LockedOnCollegeFootballMissed the point again.
Why spend the money to rebuild a conference when you can take that money and properly fund your athletic departments for years to come.
I don’t know if OSU WSU want to create a coast to coast conference if their going to play G5 football I don’t think they want travel problems like their in the ACC
Go to 20 teams, split it east and west.
The best teams in the group of 5 to add logistically, and somewhat geographically...
Mountain West- BSU, SDSU, USU, FSU, CSU, UNLV, USAF
Texas Teams- TSU, UTSA, Sam Houston
Given the fact that UCLA has to pay Cal millions of dollars for leaving them behind, I doubt the Cal State schools will be separated. The precedent has been set. The Cal State schools are a package deal.
Rebuilding the PAC 12 is and should be the first option, not a “fallback” option, even if they get an offer from the Big 12 or ACC (which is about to implode, like the PAC 12 did). Stanford and Cal made a huge mistake going to the ACC and they will eventually come back.
Stanford and Cal would be coming back to what exactly? Wazzu and OSU? Congrats that is 4 teams. Then what?
An idea I mention often is the MW penalty could easily be repaid by MW schools through a reduction in media money. The PAC has the money to pay the penalty outright, but If the rebuilt PAC media deal is better than the MW deal by a large margin then the PAC could treat the penalty more like a loan to the incoming MW schools rather than an outright payment to the MW.
Not a guarantee of course, just saying there’s creative ways to work with money as long as media dollars are there for the rebuilt PAC.
Any MWC school that is interested, has a duty to raise their own funds. Nearly half of them already built new stadiums or are planning renovations. Let's say I'm Colorado State and I'm the only one of the schools within 3 hours of Denver (Colorado, Wyoming, Air Force) that has spent money on their stadium (they built a new one), I think I could find my own money to leave the MWC and join the new PAC.
@@teacherjoe7019 For sure and that would be the case for the exit fee, but the escalating $10mil penalty that the PAC has to pay to the MW for poaching teams is the fee that I think could be treated more like a loan. I believe exit fees are usually paid out over time and not in a lump sum anyway, so any MW team worth poaching is capable of paying $17 mil over multiple years.
So under this scenario, tell me again, why any Mountain West team takes the deal? The Mountain West teams, hold the power...not the other way around.
@@Pattyboyistheman MW teams would be incentivized with the chance to join a higher profile conference (just what as far as name recognition goes) and leave behind the lower tier of the MW. Basically the school with high value take their value and add it to the PAC to theoretically create a better media deal than would be available through a merger.
Also if the PAC grabs the top of the AAC, then the PAC becomes the best G5 by far and becomes the conference that gets the 5th auto-bid to the CFP 99% of the time rather than competing with the AAC to get that auto-bid half the time.
The best MW teams hold power, but that doesn’t mean they’ll use that power for the benefit of the rest of the MW. Joining the PAC is likely much more beneficial to them.
@@stevedonnie4077 I agree.But why is the paradigm that OSU/WSU has to pay for MWC schools' choices?
Jake Haener was at Washington and transferred after hometown kid Jacob Eason ( Lake Stevens HS) came from Georgia and won the starting job at UW.
And he balled.
Why would any MW schools want to join the PAC2?
Prestige- not any more
Stability- even OSU/WSU want to jump to a better conference than the PAC2
Money- big exit fees for MW schools to leave
The Mtn West is on the drivers seat. Not the schools (OSU/WSU) that were cast off Power 5 island.
No one has mentioned the fact that the Pac 12 did not sign the new CFP agreement. So any team that joins the Pac cannot get in the playoff.
Look it up.
Best case scenario they have to hope they are included in the 2027 look in clause (why SEC and Big ten would let them in, I dont know).
Worst case pac 12 cannot make the playoffs until the next contract in 2031.
MW, no matter how depleted, still would be able to make the playoff each year.
New-look P12 would be able to be the highest-rated G5 conference champ no problem
@@LockedOnCollegeFootballNot the point I was making but ok.
Contractually PAC 12 can't get in until they are allowed in by signing the CFP playoff contract
I would like to see the New PAC 12 focus on teams on or West of the Mississippi River:
1. Oregon State
2. Washington State
3. Boise State
4. San Diego State
5. Fresno State
6. Memphis
7. Tulane
8. UNLV
9. UTSA
10. Colorado State
11. Rice
12. Tulsa
Spencer,
I agree that a trophy is in order ... for the next 2 years ... to mark these tumultuous 2-4 years in the history of the PAC. The trophy, whatever it will be called, will punctuate the solid determination of the "PAC-2" to keep the PAC-12 alive and flourishing.
No argument here
Been waiting to hear about my Tigers for a while! It sucked to hear the name Kansas after that amazing talk though😂
Haha glad you enjoyed!
From the MW, take Boise State, San Diego State, UNLV, and Colorado State. From the American, take UTSA, Rice, Tulane, and Memphis. From the WCC, take Gonzaga and St. Mary's. Wa la, new PAC 12. Fewer sports to affiliate in, more media markets, and about as "western" as you can hope for. A media deal could net somewhere between 1/3-1/2 of what the Big 12 gets per school, which is top of the G5 by far.
As long as they keep it at least somewhat regional I'm good. This bi-coastal crap is total clown world.
The six MWC schools I’d add if I’m OSU/WSU are Boise State, San Diego State, Fresno State, Colorado State, UNLV, and Wyoming. I don’t think Air Force would be allowed by the Pentagon to join the PAC-12, and I think they may even take the opportunity themselves to leave the MW and join their other military academies in the AAC.
If Pentagon is a hurdle, I too would go with Wyoming
“The Ole Dear John Letter.”
I’d really like to see a video with your thoughts on which AAC schools the PAC 12 could potentially poach. I feel like most of the time it’s all about the MWC, but AAC has some intriguing options too!
If WSU and OSU are going to play G5 football they don’t want travel problems like their playing in the ACC
@@scottyclayton2501I completely disagree. The Pac12 falling apart and the MW’s current media deal show that regionality on the west coast is not valuable. Maybe they wouldn’t be eager to grab USF, but I think the Pac would love to grab Texas area schools and Tulane/Memphis.
@@stevedonnie4077 Mountain West media deal is slightly behind the AAC and 2nd in the G5. OSU and WSU would probably make it beat the AAC. I could see a PAC 12 trying to be like the AAC and claim their a power conference (their “P6” and “Power” campaigns). With coast to coast teams but if they accept that they are G5 teams I don’t think they want to fly to Florida
@@scottyclayton2501 I think the only way they go east of Memphis/Tulane is if the future PAC media deal somehow is excellent money or if the ACC truly collapses and there are castoff teams available without a home. Either way though I think they try to take the top off of the AAC and be the head-and-shoulders best G5 so they can claim they’re basically a power conference.
Noted on file!
We should have a trophy. That would be sick.
Why not!!
Even if they did they would create the Group of 6 never making a Power 5 again
Doesn’t make any sense.
Is this a locked on pac 12 video? Holy crap, I'm waiting on the new packard models for 2025...
I am a proponent of taking all Mountain West teams but as an alternative to poaching 6-8 teams why not take 9. A vote of 9 schools in the Mountain West can dissolve the league. The nine that would want to join the Pac could do that via this route.
Again, I would prefer a full reverse merger.
Why not take 9? Cost too much and not enough football value
@@LockedOnCollegeFootball It is comments like that, that make me think that you really have no idea what you are talking about. Taking 9 or more teams is free. Those nine have the ability to vote for a dissolution of the MWC. If the MWC is dissolved then there are no exit fees to pay.
@@Josh1888USU The only thing free is taking the entire MW
If you're trying to build the best league possible, you don't take the entire MW
@@Josh1888USU Actually not free. Taking 9 schools dissolves the conference so no exit fees, but still have to pay the scheduling agreement penalty for 9 schools, which is about $100 million
@@Alohanate2004 pay it to who? If the conference no longer exists then who would receive the penalty fees?
Regardless, how I think it happens is that the ACC falls apart with somewhere between 6-8 teams remaining. The ACC then comes looking for OSU, WSU, SDSU, Memphis, Boise, Fresno, etc. And do that once our TV deal is up so they get them all for free. The ACC never signed the scheduling agreement so they wouldn't owe the MWC anything.
He can only recruit because he has the name of Alabama. It's not him. It's the school
And?
The Pac2 poaching the best G5 teams is inevitable -- they would be leaving too much money on the table not to. Joining the MWC is too big of a dropoff financially. They will take the top MWC teams, the top AAC teams, and a few from the Sunbelt, C-USA, and maybe the MAC. The new Pac-X TV deal should be about 3x the MWC TV deal (and about half the Big12 level), plus they will be much better positioned to get college football playoff money (with the 5th auto-bid to their conference champion most years) and basketball tournament money (think San Diego State, Memphis, etc.)
Army, Navy, and Airforce will be in the PAC12. Hallelujah! The armed forces series! Great!
Cal is almost assuredly coming home. Stanford maybe.
Boise State
Tulane
This might just end up becoming one hell of a conference.
They PAC 12 should reform as the WCC and reacquire, Southern California, UCLA, Colorado, and Washington. You only need eight total teams. But those teams must be TV worthy in order to secure a great deal. Nobody in the right mind watches Mountain West football. I don’t even know who’s in the mountain west conference. Do you?
I may be a little sleep deprived but this has to be one of the worst/most delusional takes I have ever read.
The MWC gave WSU/OSU a scheduling lifeline for 2 years and you want to stab 6 of those schools in the back? That is huge bad karma. Would a PAC-8 make that much more per team vs a 14 or 16 team PAC-12 with less inventory? I don’t think so. Do a reverse merger, save the war chest. With 14 teams, they should add 3 Texas schools UNT, UTSA and Rice or Texas St. Work out a deal with Hawaii to become as associate PAC-12 member. Then have 8 of the 16 teams play Hawaii in HI each year and gain a 13th game which you can package as late after dark Friday night games. Hawaii would only play 2 PAC-12 on the road each year against 4 west coast teams ( SDSU, SJST, UNLV or Fresno). If WSU/OSU end up getting an ACC backfill invite, then the PAC-12 cab backfill with Tulsa & Tulane or UTEP.
Of course we do, as we’re cfb fans and love watching good football.
@@Mr.Ed_Wayner WSU and OSU are paying a million dollars a game to put MWC schools on their schedules.
@@Lendll02 appreciate your perspective
Need to get some of the band back,bring back cal,asu,utah and snatch boise,csu,fresno,sdsu,new mexico and bring over smu,utsa.
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