Thanks for the guide, i helped a friend do this upgrade and your bit about the tweeter helped tons! However his door handle trim is held with a screw from the back, and doesn't seem to need to come off for the door car to pull off the door!
Just ordered the 13cm version of these to replace the perished OEM speakers in my 97 Mégane Coupe. Will be interesting to see if the tweeter adapter mounts work as seamlessly as in your DS3. I actually had a DS3 new in 2013 with the factory upgraded audio system. It was a DSport+ THP 155.
Girlfriend used to have the IDE version of the Megane Coupe, it was a great car. I never got around to upgrading the speakers in it, only fitted a small sub and amp for her. Have your speakers arrived?
@@myds3240 Yes they have. I've installed the mid range drivers in the doors, turns out the pods are pre drilled for both 16.5 and 13cm. Shane I can't find any of the 16.5 cm version of the sane speakers anywhere in the UK. I've not sealed the tweeters over as the adapters don't fit without further modification and my factory ones are still in good order. I've driven a 2.0 IDE about 20 years ago. Mine is just a 1.6e but can still move buy needs working hard.
Hi I have a Citroen Berlingo and have purchased this set. I have used speaker adapters in the doors and ran the tweeters to behind the head unit. And ideas on where they should be wired into? Thanks, Aaron
Hey, could you do please some sound or bass test? Im thinking of buying these to my Peugeot 206cc so it would be great if you could do some sound or bass test.
Sorry I don't have these anymore. I had them to make the wiring harness for the tweeters for a friend. The speakers are very good for the price. The improvement in sound is night and day. The bass is more clear and deeper and the highs are more detailed and crisp. The oem speakers in the 206 won't be too much different to the ones in the DS3.
Can you help me pleaseee I have an issue I can't seem to solve. I have a ds3 with the hifi system from stock. I have just adding the Focal impulse plug and play amp connected by Iso harness. It works and powers my front and rear speakers however I've noticed it then stop the Centre speaker and rear sub from working.... I'm aware the sub amp powers the sub and the centre speaker and this is tapped from the head unit speaker wires. Any idea why they stop working when I plug in the amp? Because it's still sending the signal to the amp surely just amplified signal, I can't figure out a solution as I'd like to keep the centre speaker/rear sub if possible.
Sorry I only just saw this. Did you get your issue sorted? Two things I can think that could cause an issue like that could be the tee harness for the Focal amp might not have all the pins or maybe the sub amp might not see a dc offset to turn on?
@@myds3240 thanks mate it did turn out to be the wire i think but I swapped amp too. Now I’m just trying to figure out the best way of removing the plastic cover behind the door speaker mounts as I don’t want to remove the pop rivets 😢
The speaker adapters I got from amazon or eBay. I can send you a link if you like. The adaptors for the tweeters I had someone from work to order the terminals and housing for me as I could only find them by the thousand. I could make some up for you if you like?
Hi, I had the none hifi version in the car but retro fitted it to the car thinking it might be enough to keep me happy but it really didn't. The only difference between the hifi version and none hifi is the addition of a centre speaker and the sub in the boot. All the other speakers are the same.
Great video. I´m gong to do the same with my DS3 soon. Do you know which OEM wire to the tweeter is positiv and which is negative. I have a orange and a green. Thanks.
Sorry I've only just seen your question. If you look at the plug there will be some small number on it. On our cars pin number 1 is the positive. Have you now installed the speakers?
hello thanks for the video My question Can we continue to use OEM tweeter on these speakers?? or will we have to replace them with the new ones ?? Thanks
The Citroen part number is 6562.X2 for the woofers in the doors and 6562.C7 for the tweeters in the dash. These items are made by ASK, I have no specifications for them.
@@myds3240 Well, maybe I was a little bit harsh, since TS-Gs are purely "replacement" speakers, e.g., when factory speaker die out, you can use them to replace the outgoing speaker the cheap way. However, that's ALL they will ever be. To get a decent upgrade both in sound quality and "SPL", you must do something in caliber of Audison Prima APK 165, which with the really HUGE sensitivity and thought-out built can guarantee an upgrade. Yet, a small caveat remains; although they demonstrate a natural roll-off to towards the upper part of the spectrum, they do not possess they same virtues for base, so if they are installed in a system without HPF to disburden them from the murderous and unwanted base, beyond a certain volume level they will play "dirty" and they will get "tired" (despite a 32mm voice coil!), because they are simply not built and they can never replace a subwoofer. Even driven by the weak 4X15rms in average of any modern aftermarket radio, they work wonders. In many cases, there is practically NO real need for an amp (especially if the installation included a little bit of door insulation and structural support of speaker baffle).
@@myds3240 That's right. That's 12" Profi sub, a dream of a speaker, almost just like everything Rainbow used to produce. Calmness and dive in deep-bass are unprecedented. A true SQ speaker that will only reproduce the music signal without adding or absorbing anything.
@@Ernestom5 I am very familiar with the brand. I bought some Dreamline DL-C6.2 for my brother in his first install. I only recommend the pioneers to people that need replacement speakers on the car groups that I'm on. They normally come on and ask "what are the best speaker to get", I'll link them to a great pair of SQ high sensitive speakers that would run well off the deck full well knowing they wouldn't what to run an external amplifier and they always reply with "I can't afford that". Most people just want a cheap and cheerful upgrade, that's easy to install. These Pioneers tick all the right boxes for them, with them being almost plug and play. They do sound better than the OEM speakers, bass sounds firmer and I was surprised to hear there was a lot more detail from the tweeters. For the price and ease of install they are great. Yes they are not a great SQ set but most don't understand and think that a coaxial set will be fine to go in so at least I'm steering them towards a component set. The Audison's you mention are a great choice but they are 10x the price and you need to cut the mounting basket, which a lot of people don't want to do. I totally understand your point. I don't have the Pioneers in my car. I have a 3 way active set up in my car that's running off Mosconi 8to12 Aerospace DSP, all time aligned, phase corrected and EQ'd giving me a lovely centre image.
Thanks for the guide, i helped a friend do this upgrade and your bit about the tweeter helped tons! However his door handle trim is held with a screw from the back, and doesn't seem to need to come off for the door car to pull off the door!
Thank you for explaining the tweeters. So good :)
Just ordered the 13cm version of these to replace the perished OEM speakers in my 97 Mégane Coupe. Will be interesting to see if the tweeter adapter mounts work as seamlessly as in your DS3.
I actually had a DS3 new in 2013 with the factory upgraded audio system. It was a DSport+ THP 155.
Girlfriend used to have the IDE version of the Megane Coupe, it was a great car. I never got around to upgrading the speakers in it, only fitted a small sub and amp for her.
Have your speakers arrived?
@@myds3240 Yes they have. I've installed the mid range drivers in the doors, turns out the pods are pre drilled for both 16.5 and 13cm. Shane I can't find any of the 16.5 cm version of the sane speakers anywhere in the UK. I've not sealed the tweeters over as the adapters don't fit without further modification and my factory ones are still in good order.
I've driven a 2.0 IDE about 20 years ago. Mine is just a 1.6e but can still move buy needs working hard.
How did You make the plug tweeter wir adapter where do You get them from 🤔
Hi I have a Citroen Berlingo and have purchased this set. I have used speaker adapters in the doors and ran the tweeters to behind the head unit. And ideas on where they should be wired into? Thanks, Aaron
Hi, would you still sell the apadaptors you made for the tweeters?
Do you have to disconnect the battery while doing this? Thanks
hello. Could you explain how you made the tweeter adapter?
Thank you so much
Hey, could you do please some sound or bass test? Im thinking of buying these to my Peugeot 206cc so it would be great if you could do some sound or bass test.
Sorry I don't have these anymore. I had them to make the wiring harness for the tweeters for a friend.
The speakers are very good for the price. The improvement in sound is night and day.
The bass is more clear and deeper and the highs are more detailed and crisp.
The oem speakers in the 206 won't be too much different to the ones in the DS3.
Can you help me pleaseee I have an issue I can't seem to solve. I have a ds3 with the hifi system from stock. I have just adding the Focal impulse plug and play amp connected by Iso harness. It works and powers my front and rear speakers however I've noticed it then stop the Centre speaker and rear sub from working.... I'm aware the sub amp powers the sub and the centre speaker and this is tapped from the head unit speaker wires. Any idea why they stop working when I plug in the amp? Because it's still sending the signal to the amp surely just amplified signal, I can't figure out a solution as I'd like to keep the centre speaker/rear sub if possible.
Sorry I only just saw this. Did you get your issue sorted?
Two things I can think that could cause an issue like that could be the tee harness for the Focal amp might not have all the pins or maybe the sub amp might not see a dc offset to turn on?
@@myds3240 thanks mate it did turn out to be the wire i think but I swapped amp too. Now I’m just trying to figure out the best way of removing the plastic cover behind the door speaker mounts as I don’t want to remove the pop rivets 😢
Dont you need a crossover for the speakers?
The crossover is a simple cap on the tweeter cable. You see the cap at 6:21
Where did you get adaptor from?
The speaker adapters I got from amazon or eBay. I can send you a link if you like.
The adaptors for the tweeters I had someone from work to order the terminals and housing for me as I could only find them by the thousand.
I could make some up for you if you like?
Yes I need the adapter for the tweeters or is there a,way to tak out the adapter of standard ones?
@@simondavies3666 unfortunately the plug is moulded in to the tweeter body.
Hello, Where did you buy the adapter for the tweeters?
Hi, sorry I've only just seen your message.
I made them. I can do them for £5 plus shipping.
@@myds3240 how can i order them from you?
@@myds3240 hi mate do you still make these adapters
hello. Could you explain how you made the tweeter adapter?
Hello. Do you have the standard sound system or the Hi-Fi one?
Hi,
I had the none hifi version in the car but retro fitted it to the car thinking it might be enough to keep me happy but it really didn't.
The only difference between the hifi version and none hifi is the addition of a centre speaker and the sub in the boot. All the other speakers are the same.
Great video. I´m gong to do the same with my DS3 soon. Do you know which OEM wire to the tweeter is positiv and which is negative. I have a orange and a green. Thanks.
Sorry I've only just seen your question.
If you look at the plug there will be some small number on it. On our cars pin number 1 is the positive.
Have you now installed the speakers?
@@myds3240 Thanks a lot for your help. I have not installed it yet - I´m not sure how to disconnect the battery. What did you do?
@@annemettefg no need to disconnect the battery when installing speakers or are you doing something else to?
@@myds3240 I don´t have the tweeter connectors you show on the video - so have to cut and slice the oem wire and the wire to the new tweeter together.
@@annemettefg I can make some adaptors for you for £5 if you like?
Hi i need an adapter for the tweeter for the same setup as you, any idea of how to get hold of one?
Hi,
Sorry only just seen your comment.
Did you still need the adapter?
@@myds3240 yes if u can please also do you know how to i can install a line ouput converter without cutting the original stereo wiring
myds3info@gmail.com
Drop me an email and I should be able to point you in the right direction.
I make the adapters and sell them for £5 +P&P
hello thanks for the video
My question
Can we continue to use OEM tweeter on these speakers??
or will we have to replace them with the new ones ??
Thanks
It would be best to use the tweeters that come with the new speakers and remove the ones that were in the car.
What model are the stock speaker?
The Citroen part number is 6562.X2 for the woofers in the doors and 6562.C7 for the tweeters in the dash.
These items are made by ASK, I have no specifications for them.
Was it better
Yes, these are a lot better than the stock speakers.
So, you replaced factory trash speakers with trash speakers you paid for...
What speakers would you recommend?
Is that the logo for the Rainbow in your avatar?
@@myds3240 Well, maybe I was a little bit harsh, since TS-Gs are purely "replacement" speakers, e.g., when factory speaker die out, you can use them to replace the outgoing speaker the cheap way. However, that's ALL they will ever be. To get a decent upgrade both in sound quality and "SPL", you must do something in caliber of Audison Prima APK 165, which with the really HUGE sensitivity and thought-out built can guarantee an upgrade. Yet, a small caveat remains; although they demonstrate a natural roll-off to towards the upper part of the spectrum, they do not possess they same virtues for base, so if they are installed in a system without HPF to disburden them from the murderous and unwanted base, beyond a certain volume level they will play "dirty" and they will get "tired" (despite a 32mm voice coil!), because they are simply not built and they can never replace a subwoofer. Even driven by the weak 4X15rms in average of any modern aftermarket radio, they work wonders. In many cases, there is practically NO real need for an amp (especially if the installation included a little bit of door insulation and structural support of speaker baffle).
@@myds3240 That's right. That's 12" Profi sub, a dream of a speaker, almost just like everything Rainbow used to produce. Calmness and dive in deep-bass are unprecedented. A true SQ speaker that will only reproduce the music signal without adding or absorbing anything.
@@Ernestom5 I am very familiar with the brand. I bought some Dreamline DL-C6.2 for my brother in his first install.
I only recommend the pioneers to people that need replacement speakers on the car groups that I'm on. They normally come on and ask "what are the best speaker to get", I'll link them to a great pair of SQ high sensitive speakers that would run well off the deck full well knowing they wouldn't what to run an external amplifier and they always reply with "I can't afford that".
Most people just want a cheap and cheerful upgrade, that's easy to install. These Pioneers tick all the right boxes for them, with them being almost plug and play. They do sound better than the OEM speakers, bass sounds firmer and I was surprised to hear there was a lot more detail from the tweeters. For the price and ease of install they are great. Yes they are not a great SQ set but most don't understand and think that a coaxial set will be fine to go in so at least I'm steering them towards a component set.
The Audison's you mention are a great choice but they are 10x the price and you need to cut the mounting basket, which a lot of people don't want to do. I totally understand your point. I don't have the Pioneers in my car. I have a 3 way active set up in my car that's running off Mosconi 8to12 Aerospace DSP, all time aligned, phase corrected and EQ'd giving me a lovely centre image.