A deeply enlightening conversation on one of the most important facts in our lives - both individually and socially -, that most people seem to be unable to realize. Not only questioning assumptions and paradigms, but also learning to think by ourselves and not being "thought" by our cultural, social and political environment. And of course also questioning ourselves. Very good !
In the words of Bill Donahue, “without a you, there is no God!” If you did not exist, God wouldn’t exist. Shelly Trimmer stated that we are self existent. And that we have always existed. We are “self conscious awareness, just as God is self conscious awareness.” We are self existent. This is one of my favorite episodes Jeffery!
The difference between "something" and "nothing" is that "something" is physical, while "nothing" is not. The physical came after the non-physical, hence something came out of nothing.
Pardon my arrogance, but Christian is correct on the two constants. Particularly the idea that there can never exist a state of permanent non existence. Well done.
Hypothesis “you can’t get something from nothing”. Once we fix this idea we can build some certainty. What does the good doctor base this “fact’ on? His empirical observation of the EXISTING world. We never get something from nothing. Perhaps the universe is a miracle? Perhaps it is the ONE time we get something from nothing? Oh no! A question? His fact is now a hypothesis.. Logic is a tool and has limit cases (fact).
De Quincey is mistaken. Idealists don't claim that matter is an "illusion" in the sense almost of an hallucination. There is a real sensation that matter is concrete and solid, and they don't deny that.
Sorry, by mistake I ended that without finishing. There is definitely something that matter represents, and if we ignore that, it can have dire consequences, e.g. getting run over by a bus. But what we perceive as a bus is, in and of tself, something entirely different: the "thing in itself" (whatever that might be) as Kant put it, which is ultimately unknowable, but arises in universal consciousness and is perceived as being solid. Perception isn't reality, but rather how we represent the appearance of the thing in itself in our own consciousness. I recommend investigating two people's work: Bernardo Kastrup and Donald Hoffman. The latter, incidentally, points out that just because something that appears to us as matter isn't actually concrete doesn't mean we shouldn't take it seriously.
A deeply enlightening conversation on one of the most important facts in our lives - both individually and socially -, that most people seem to be unable to realize. Not only questioning assumptions and paradigms, but also learning to think by ourselves and not being "thought" by our cultural, social and political environment. And of course also questioning ourselves. Very good !
In the words of Bill Donahue, “without a you, there is no God!” If you did not exist, God wouldn’t exist.
Shelly Trimmer stated that we are self existent. And that we have always existed. We are “self conscious awareness, just as God is self conscious awareness.” We are self existent.
This is one of my favorite episodes Jeffery!
Thank you for another great conversation.
and i love that mandala sculpture in the back!
Mate, I see a family hugging each other ❤️
This is so good.
Love and gratitude to you both!
The difference between "something" and "nothing" is that "something" is physical, while "nothing" is not. The physical came after the non-physical, hence something came out of nothing.
Pardon my arrogance, but Christian is correct on the two constants. Particularly the idea that there can never exist a state of permanent non existence. Well done.
However he fails it seems to understand consciousness can be and fundamentally is separate from matter...ie mankind, mammals, etc.
Hypothesis “you can’t get something from nothing”. Once we fix this idea we can build some certainty. What does the good doctor base this “fact’ on? His empirical observation of the EXISTING world. We never get something from nothing. Perhaps the universe is a miracle? Perhaps it is the ONE time we get something from nothing? Oh no! A question? His fact is now a hypothesis.. Logic is a tool and has limit cases (fact).
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Enki was part dolphin. There's your "noble" species.
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De Quincey is mistaken. Idealists don't claim that matter is an "illusion" in the sense almost of an hallucination. There is a real sensation that matter is concrete and solid, and they don't deny that.
Sorry, by mistake I ended that without finishing. There is definitely something that matter represents, and if we ignore that, it can have dire consequences, e.g. getting run over by a bus. But what we perceive as a bus is, in and of tself, something entirely different: the "thing in itself" (whatever that might be) as Kant put it, which is ultimately unknowable, but arises in universal consciousness and is perceived as being solid. Perception isn't reality, but rather how we represent the appearance of the thing in itself in our own consciousness.
I recommend investigating two people's work: Bernardo Kastrup and Donald Hoffman. The latter, incidentally, points out that just because something that appears to us as matter isn't actually concrete doesn't mean we shouldn't take it seriously.