How to use the coolest modulation in music...
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- Check out how this guy uses harmonic movement to make (and keep) things REALLY interesting in this song. Dig into this song with me and see if we have any constructive criticism for our friend Stephen here.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Welcome! Ramblings on a typical session day…
0:53 I do this in my spare time, sometimes before the session day starts
1:18 I have a song from a subscriber-he just needs someone else’s ears on it
….this is very common for writers, producers, artists, players
3:50 My rig for playing along and playing through some ideas
4:31 Here’s the song, “Marie”
8:39 This feels so much like a Ry Cooder meets The Band. VERY cool.
9:25 This kind of stuff is some my absolute favorite music
9:47 I have some thoughts…
11:40 Ry’s stuff is very carefully constructed in terms of what sticks out when…
12:13 I’m intentionally leaving the “session guy on modern radio” hat OFF.
12:42 I’m a huge fan of all these 70s artists that this reminds me of.
13:14 But there are a lot of things happening kind of all the time
14:21 If we were on a session, these would be the ideas thrown out by the players
15:27 The chord movement here is AWESOME
16:42 Some other influences I hear…
17:16 Let’s check out this chord move again…
18:02 “Grace don’t come cheap, but it’s free.” :)
18:49 THE MODULATION…let’s figure this out
19:35 That’s a 2- 5 1 in A. He got there walking down to a 4- chord in F# that IS the 2- in A. Get it?! That is SO COOL
20:00 Final thoughts. PLEASE SUBSCRIBE :) 
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Just wanted to say "thank ya kindly" to folks who took the time to share some feedback. I greatly appreciate it. If you're curious, I bit the bullet a signed up a bunch o' fantastic Nashville session players. I've got 10 songs for a full album they'll be beating into shape. They'll take on everything but the acoustic, which my poor pocketless soul will handle. I figure that'll put a nice rough edge on things :-). Here's a rough go at a chords sheet for the curious...
Verse
| F# /C# | Bmaj7 B | A#4 add b5 | B B/A
| F#6 | G#m B | G# D11 | F#
Bridge
| A# dim F#11/B | B | Cdim5 D#dim |
| G#7 C#aug
Chorus
| F# C#7/G# | A#dim B6/F# | D#m7 Bsus2/C# |
| Bm E7/G# | A6 A7 | Dsus2sus4 D | C#4 | C#7 |
| F# C#7/G# | A#dim B | riff |
Awesome! Really looking forward to it!
Exactly what I was hoping you'd do as I said below. I love to hear sing songwriters get their playing DNA on a track supplemented by great contributions surrounding them.
Great vibe Steven.
very cool! curious to see who you all get, and to hear the final product!
It'll be at least a couple o' months, but once I get everything down I'll post a link here. The album will be gratis and I'll post my original demos for comparison. Hopefully that'll give folks a feel for what these Nashville session dudes & dudettes bring to the table. Maybe help you make a decision as to whether you'd like to do the same.
Fellow Nashville musician here. Love your stuff. Professional and most importantly - USEFUL. Your content nails it man.
Cool song, kudos to the writer for submitting and sharing for all of us to learn. Haven’t seen the whole video yet but it’s a really dense arrangement. It doesn’t need so much "stuff" going on because the song itself can stand on its own with less.
I love the musicality of this song. Love the changes. More songs should be like this!
Love how diplomatic you are!! I had the same thought out of the gate. Cool song and I can relate to too much going on to land on anything.
Great stuff!!!! Love the harmony/chord structures... vocals... heck, all of it!
I here a bit of Randy Newman too.
Todd Snider for the sardonic vibe also
No doubt.
Great to hear such a beautiful chord progression.
Even a little feet thing going on there. Pretty neat. Interesting Chord changes. Great voice. Thanks Justin, great content here. more like this...
"So much movement I couldn't focus on the lyrics" that is exactly what I was thinking on the first pass. Super cool voice but it was hard to follow because my attention went all over. Anxious to hear a second version with some of Justin's suggestions
Agree with your input 100% Justin... 🔊🎶
Justin, you really touched upon something that those that do this on our own seem to struggle with. I, too, tend to "fill space" both sonically and with various instruments / parts and often need to do some subtractive revisions when the mix starts to shape up. Thanks for the content you put out there. Wonderful vibe in this song Steven.
I enjoyed your song Steven! It has a soulful Ray Charles vibe to me! I can't wait to hear the finished product!
Crikey it’s so cool to listen to you Justine yip your right. There’s thousands of us out there ! I realised it would be silly to attempt to send you a bit of creativity, the important thing is to keep listening to what your saying and thank you your doing great job.
Love that you got the answers Justine and the track is likely to be absolute winner if sorted I hear it’s very cool the fact you chose this near eclectic piece and saw such potential was what was so cool.
Great song! I totally agree with your assessment of how the parts are cool but need to find their space in the arrangement. Great vocal and delivery.
Great video once again!
Greetings from Saskatoon Canada!
I really dig the song. Unusual, cool vibe
Great song, and a really cool singer! It really hit me!
100% agree Justin, this could be fantastic.
Now, who will dare to send you a song. I love it and find the song/artist so authentic!
I really enjoy these videos Justin. You are really getting some great vocalists sending you tracks. I would enjoy hearing you play the chord progression on the 335, and have the vocals re tracked over that. He could nail the pocket, and re layer up from there.
Man what a cool song!
100% agree. Great writing, great playing and singing. Lyrics slightly overshadowed by the mix - easy fix. Hope Stephen finishes it off, and keeps its character. Great video - thanks.
The worst thing a song writer hates to hear…. “Sounds a lot like ‘….’!
Man, I love your tune dude. Sure you have influences, but it sounds just like you!!!
Great job!!!
Totally agree. Listening back, the guitar and banjo(?) panned hard left and right were kind of conflicting and pulling attention away from the vocal. I almost wanted to hear more of a bed of music, like a B3 or some mellow acoustic strumming that provides an anchor. Then the vocal comes in front and center, and the guitars (left or right) come in the breaks. But yeah the core of the vocal and song is just awesome, you can't fake that.
It's a cool song - I love the way it sounds.
Love your videos.
Definitely a lot going on and agree with everyone getting into the pocket, also recommend bringing the volcals up a bit. The chord structure is very advanced and tells a story of both characters "very cool". Some other recommendations I've read comments to include a church or wurlitzure organ? That may be a little bit to much, maybe a Rhodes wold fit a bit better. Light percussion like snare with brushes? I liked the abrupt ending ..kinda feels like she says "end of story" and a head wag!
Very cool on the porch summer evening jam feeling!
Cool chord progression, and lyric.
Ry, Little Feat, The Band. Definitely in that area code.
Great songs, great voice, and great insights and feedback Justin.
I wouldn't want Stephen NOT to be playing because I think he has a style and a soul. Personally I would love to hear Stephen playing and singing amidst a great band who could add their contributions. Let's not forget people like Ry had stellar, soulful collaborators.
Fantastic song. Fantastic video. Constructive criticism is to be absolutely welcomed in the creative process.
Pretty great. Maybe a tad busy but in a cool way. The modulations are beautiful and your voice and talk/singing style is killin. Good luck brother! U deserve it. Great comments justin. Yeah the band “rock of ages” live album is killin. And yeah gregg allman laid back is a killer record as well.
The song it's pretty cool, the chord progression is incredible (at least for me since im a pretty basic guitar player/songwriter) I agree with the advice given in this video and also I believe adding a basic electric piano and maybe a bass could help to tight things up, the voice remaninds me of hugh Laurie (he played dr. House the tv show and also ia a musician, made two records Wich I highly recommend)
Agreed. A punchy Wurlitzer with tremolo taking a lot of the chord duties, plus a really 70s style picked and/or muted P Bass would be killer in this song.
Reminds me of Little Feat, Tom Waits, and Jerry Garcia. Great song...just think it needs a better rhythmic foundation with fewer conflicting instruments so you can feel the groove.
Sfrackin great !
Well i see the composer has already hired himself a band, so i guess comments are a little redundant.
But for what it's worth i thought Justin nailed it,it felt
like everything was fighting for the same spot.
But the vocals were so strong they really didn't need that much help, even a single acoustic guitar backing might have actually been enough.
That said there was plenty of cool playing so hopefully the band found a home for everything.
There isn't another channel quite like this, one of my favourite things is seeing what really makes up a song, where every note earns its place.
Justin is a consumate pro in this regard and such an
outstanding guitarist, it's fascinating watching him
at work.
So I'm grateful RUclips threw in this suggested channel,why it thinks I'm also preoccupied with cage fighting i don't know, but I'm sure they know best.
Went thru Nashville the other day. It’s a nightmare man. More power to you
I like it less every day lol
Very cool Justin. This one is tricky for me. I could not feel the grove. Maybe it's the chord progression which is not the norm. I enjoyed your take on the song, quite interesting.
Ha, I just finished writing and recording an album all by myself as well. I have no idea what I have, can't get anyone to listen. I know this gentleman's pain. I said heck with it and I'm having it mastered. Time to move on. Love the channel and the direction you're going. Best of luck Justin.
Cool.. why not just put it on UTube and spread the word here.. and orher social media sites you frequent..?
I’d like to hear it.. I have the setup.. and the outlines of several song ideas.. but I just need to get off my butt and DO IT…!!!
Let us know..?✌🏼
@@joeurbanowski321 I really appreciate your reply. Funny enough I never even considered youtube. I'm told I have a face for radio. I'll definitely consider it. Right now it's just some demos on sound cloud under the name Fishlore. After hearing this gentleman's vocals, I'm embarrassed to even mention my own music.
If you have some music somewhere, let me know. thanks again.
@@FishloreJimson .. music is to share..👍🏼
Kewl song.
Yep, definitely Randy Newman. Personally the vocals or what is getting me or specifically the background vocals I’m feeling like a gospel-ish, female voice or voices a little more in sync with how he is singing or maybe even slowed down and sort of floating above his vocal. Definitely a great song. I would love to hear the finished product.
That Steven guy, what a great voice.
That 335 sounds beautiful
I think his voice and style of the music go together real well....just a little too busy in places (IMO). I think he could use some direction with a retake (?), but his ability to do it himself may be real important. Again....IMO. Good song, and good work Justin!
This guy is really good
When I heard the song--which I love--I thought, "I cannot WAIT to watch him chart this one out." Imagine my disappointment! Maybe a second video where you show us how to chart this one! What an exciting beast!
Stephen commented with chord changes. Check the pinned comment
This is awesome, thanks for all you do for songwriters. Where could I email a song submission? Thanks again!!!
Email is on my channel
Hey Justin… I think it’d be pretty cool to have like.. a theme song.. for every episode.. Kinda like Zac Childs does.. but his,even though it’s a classic jazz/blues ditty, is kinda corny imo.. lol.. but Jack is a super cool guitarist so I tune that one out…
And besides being cool,it’s like brand marketing… smart biz,right.?
Love catching your vids.. I shared your show with the online advanced student group I’m a member of.. just keep em coming,ok.?👍🏼❤️
He sounds a lot like Doug McCloud. Great vocals like that deserve to be highlighted.
Don't know how I missed him, but I never heard of this dude. Sittin' here listening to a couple o' his albums. I love it. Thanks for tip and the kind words.
And, don't forget Jesse Winchester! There's this storytelling, almost conversational thing that was his hallmark. And his harmonic movement always seems instinctive as opposed to studied. This gentleman has captured that for me.
Hi, Justin, I like your video so much. Would you like to try FESLEY's electric guitar?
I had similar critique of the track; love - LOVE - the vocal quality but I had a hard time finding a groove. I don't necessarily think it was a timing issue but maybe more a lyrical issue. Try adding more intentional repetition to the lyrics. In my humble opinion, perhaps continue the vocal harmony parts more throughout the B part/chorus, the vocal doubling parts were too short or sporadic, which distracted my focus. Consider only having one additional voice on the harmony sections to keep the mix less cluttered. With the style of this song, too many layers would "muddy the waters," and take away emphasis of the vocal. Good stuff Stephen!
What a great great song, and what a voice, ohh boy :-) I feel like: Woww, whats going on. I am hit with so much inspiration and information. I feel too much. Its so great and I think it would help to clean it up. It does not need so many goodies. Keep making music and for christ sake - keep singing :-)
Cool song I like it a lot I wish I could hear all the lyrics
dude. this is 🔥. I'd love to hear less percussive elements (I stopped the video to type this so you're probably getting ready to say the same thing) with a more cohesive mix... it needs some "glue". The artist's voice and harmonic sensibilities reminds me of a guy I used to play with a lot named Adrian Duke (check that guy out!) and so in my head I'm hearing B3 organ all day long in there. This kind of harmony and a great keys player are like honey and butter on this kind of biscuit 😆
Cool
I hope this feedback helps, I am a real rookie so this is from the viewpoint of a music fan. Dislikes - tuning is off between instruments (noticeable early on, maybe it's just the slide), the stereo spread felt too big for me, needs a little percussion to establish the beat.
Good stuff - I like the front porch feel, the singer has a great voice, lots of well executed chords, really nice textural sound.
Hi great video! Which pick do you use?
Mediums. .070
Hi Justin. Which headphones/cans do you use? (I looked through the gear list in the description and apologize if I missed it.)
GK Ultraphones
@@JustinOstrander Thank you... and thank you for these videos!
(Edit: I just found your video from a few years ago on the GK website.)
Wow. There is a lot of cool stuff going on there.
Maybe a bit too busy though? I also had to give it a couple listens before I really "got it". This would be soooo cool stripped down just a bit.
In the intro, I would be tempted to strip it down until the accented portion just before the vocals begin. Is there an issue with one instrument not being on tempo in the first bar? There was just A LOT going on in the start. Especially for an acoustic piece. Maybe help bring the listener along a bit slower by introducing instruments into the song slower? That would help build to crescendo.
The ending was odd. It just left me hangin'. A fade out would be really cool.
The backup vocals were a little hard for my pea-brain to process at first. But I eventually came around. Making sure that the stereo levels are equal, side to side, on both vocals, in those portions, would help the "normal" listener to process what is going on, maybe? Maybe the levels are off on my end? Maybe my ears are still on vacation this morning?
I thought the song structure was excellent. Interesting chord progression. Good overall song length. However, the performance seemed to stay at one level....no crescendo/decrescendo.
I'd like to hear better mix level management, all around. There is a "magic" in the mix-down when it will all meld into one. I would also rather that the finished recording had all channels in both ears. IMHO, stereo only works for things like trem, delays, rotaries, etc. But that is mainly preference based.
Just needs a little polish in post maybe? Some optical compression would help. Maybe a tiny bit of mixdown reverb? Maybe I'm just too nit-picky this morning?
Overall though, very cool! I'm a fan too!
Why do you use the pick mainly on base strings and fingers mainly on trebles ?
It’s called hybrid picking. I use it a lot. Just developed naturally
Tell that dude there i😢s a radio station in Dallas/ftw called the range that would play this song especially if its cleaned up a bit
Cool. It's bein'' beaten into shape by the Nashville cats as we speak. I'll give ya a shout through RUclips once it's available. By the way, took a peak at your channel. You can flat play, brother.
@@stevenestes719 oh thank you so much
@@BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender Hey man, just wanted to say thanks for the pointer. Record just got released. I'm gonna send it their way today.
Vocally I hear a lot of John Hiatt.
😎
Please send a link! Who did this?
Check the pinned comment. He’s currently having it re-recorded
Amazing work as always Justin! I actually sent you an email, I love your perspective on this stuff. I’m just 22 so I’m still getting started at this whole life thing.
I like that Nashville players only do 3 hour slots. That's what me and my songwriting partner do. After 3 hours it's all downhill. But those first 3 hours are magical.
I should say that it can and often does go much longer than that. :)
Some cool tones ..... the vocal sounds like hes got a ton of character and needs to really be out front and uncluttered....
When you say “expensive to have a band cut it in Nashville”… Ballpark?
Email me. It’s on my about page on my channel
Damn near perfect song -- Sometimes the voice2 commenting the song is a little too much - A little Too much going on towards the end of the song. The start of the song is perfect Americana like some of the greatest band play it. Melody reminds me of "Still crazy after all these years" by Paul Simon.
Art is never finished, just abandoned - Leonardo Da Vinci I'd add a church organ rhythm/bass track. Any more guitar is a hat on a hat.
Sounds like that was Keb Mo singing.
I remember when I was working. i published RUclips videos. I deleted those channels. I am retired and now I do the videos for fun. I am a boomer, so i wont be here forever, but its fun.
Great deconstruction of this song. There is a lot of great things happening, but it's too much. All the other stuff gets in the way of the vocal. Very cool basic tracks, but sometimes less is more...
busy
Sounds like a Pride and Joy band.
Great vocal and performance. But too busy throughout. No build up in arrangement, and the complex chords need a piano/organ layer. Which part is the chorus 😊
English is not my mother tongue. What does "in the pocket" means? Thank you.
Locked into the rhythm and sitting just a little behind the beat. It’s a whole world of nuance. Lots of info online
Also, when a band is rhythmically together, moving along tightly together.
Lol was screamin jim keltner at the screen
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My opinion, there is too much going on. If it is true that you get 30 to 45 seconds to impress a record producer, I think they will give up after that. In some parts the vocal cannot be heard clearly. You have to listen to this several times to get a grip on it. This is just my opinion, but I would redo this and try to get the listener to keep on listening.
Keb mo copy
Cool song, way to busy.
Too much compression and too much going on/too many similar tracks. It sounds like 2 different takes of the same song played simultaneously.
Absolutely fair. Although, I gotta say, the idea of overlaying 2 different takes of the same song is just the sort of thing I would love, even if everyone else rightly hated it :-). Of course, if I could do it like Bill Frisell and Julian Lage, then I might be in business: ruclips.net/video/CDzpq94HBGk/видео.html
I here Mr Joe Sun in this. 🫶