Foster Yeoman used to run a service with a single Class 59 and 50 102T aggregate wagons, for 5100 tons and probably a similar length. However, the longest and heaviest train even on UK metals was a test train that Yeoman ran in conjunction with the RTC to study the feasibility of a 'megatrain'. 59005 hauled 58 102T wagons to a point just down the line from Merehead, whereupon another 57 wagons topped and tailed by 59001 and 59003. 59003 was not under power for the duration of the experiment as it was simply there packed with instruments as a test lab. Initially, the entire formation was started by 59005, and once it was underway 59001 assisted. 59005 therefore set what was then a European record for the heaviest train hauled by a single locomotive (albeit only for a short distance) of 11982 tons. The total length of the formation was 5415 feet. It was not a particularly successful test, as it took the best part of ten minutes for a full brake release, and after a signal check, this resulted in a bad snatch when under power again. The strain sheared the point off the screw coupling of 59001, and the train was severed. It was concluded that buckeyes would need fitting from end to end to ensure the same did not happen again, so while they fitted a new hook on 59001, it was deemed likely to happen again before they reached Acton, so they took both halves of the train away individually.
Can't understand why they haven't moved into the 21st (or even 20th) century and fitted auto couplers. Australia used dual coupled locos while they were changing over, 90 years ago!
@@JakeyG-eq1un It's the ease of coupling and uncoupling also, as well as the increased safety of not having to go between the vehicles. You don't need buffers either.
I've never seen video of a British train longer than 30 cars before! That's a really nice catch, and It's not too surprising that it's a network rail ballast train!
I've been watching the webcam in chesterton near chicago and yes I was amazed and surprised at the length of your double decked freight trains. It helps take many, many trucks of USA highways. The problem with UK freight is that we share the same rail track with national/regional passengers trains, and many sidings are just not long enough to accommodate these trains.
Our freight trains do operate at around 60-75mph which those huge trains in the US seldom get close to, who wins the argument between moving more freight but slowly or moving less freight but more quickly I wonder and one only has to go back to some of the old coal trains running on the Woodhead to see we did once operate such long single carry type trains ourselves, the vast coaling operation say at Wath was without peer anywhere in the world at its height so the trans Pennine part of the country had electricity.
Ian Watson The DRG&W tried the fast freight concept, but it was eventually uneconomical as fuel prices increased. "In time, the Rio Grande's fast freight philosophy gave way to SP's long-established practice of running long, slow trains. A contributing factor was the rising cost of diesel fuel, a trend that set in after the 1973 oil crisis, which gradually undermined the D&RGW's fuel-consuming "fast freight" philosophy. By the early 1990s, the combined Rio Grande/Southern Pacific Railroad had lost much of the competitive advantage that made it attractive to transcontinental shippers, and became largely dependent on hauling the high-quality coal produced in the mine fields of Colorado and Utah."
Nice shot. It is a High Output Ballast Cleaning train (HOBC) - a very impressive machine, both in its size and what it can do. There is also the HOTR High Output Track Renewals Train, which must be almost as long and again, an impressive machine.
Nice looking train. I work the on the rails in Canada (CN Kamloops Terminal) and my longest was an intermodal which was over 12,000ft in length and about 20,000 tonnes. A short train over here is considered to be between 6,000 and 9,000ft in length. BTW I worked on the Tube (LU) for 18 years too and have a lot of respect for UK rail so I'm not starting a pissing contest.
we see those things out here too in Ontario ... they are pretty long ... thing though about uk trains is that there is coolness factor to them that kind of gets lost in translation: smaller yes but really interesting.
When I was working on the Railway as Relief Crossing Keeper at Lock Lane, just outside Trent Junction, Control sent us rather a long train to deal with. It was a double-decker car carrying train, for which the entire line had been cleared so it could enjoy a 'clear run' and I counted the time it took to clear my crossing box. Compared with the above example, passing York, I have calculated that this special was longer in overall length.It put road- carrying car transporters very much into the shade! A later estimate suggested she carried two thousand vehicles at a single swipe. Not bad going, eh?I have not seen anything like this since leaving the area in 97.Alistair Kewish
Several of them, surely? And they're impressive, yes, but also bloody slow and bloody noisy when working their way past your bedroom window at 2.30am! I'm glad the job they do seems to be one that needs doing less than once a year on a typical piece of track... think I've ended up watching (and cursing) every single one that's come past. The first time was fascinating, the repeat visits... not so much. Still, prefer that to having to work on one. It looks like a pretty dull, yet thankless task. Just sitting there with your mandatory earmuffs on, still being driven half deaf and half mad by the noise, having to keep your eye on a couple of monitors whilst the machine plods relentlessly onwards doing its thing automatically, fighting the urge to sleep that the rhythmic drop-rumble-lift-scoot-drop cycle can't exactly help with... and probably half freezing to death in the winter because the firey bit is quite a long way off from your position almost hanging off the back of the unit.
Try Reading West station one day. Usually 5-6 freight per hour, stone empties 45 hopper-wagons, freight liners 30+, loaded stone 20+ hoppers, car transporters miles (!), oil train 20+, Engineers train rail sleepers etc. All that lot mixed with HSTs, Voyagers, Turbos, and the occasional special steam/diesel. Add an assortment of drunks, junkies and 'travellers', It makes for an interesting few hours of watching.
Absolutely amazing catch Felix! Was it about 04.00 when it passed York? The sunrise can just be seen beyond the canopy. Well worth hanging around for. Well done mate! Ken
Exactly, it's apples and orange to compare the systems. Seeing as the UK is a much smaller country with a larger population, thus making it more suited to passengers, hence they have no need to run massive 2km long double stacked freight trains like Australia does daily
Felixjaz NP its an amazing train to behold and powered by a pair of diesels that seem to drag it along with little issue shows how powerful our locos are today :) Wondering if I could replicate this on Train Simulator as I have the autoballasters and the engines but not sure how many of each wagon there is.
Medium Output Ballast Cleaner. The cars at the start are spoil wagons with a conveyor belt to move spoil down the train, it means you can load the whole from one point. The other bits are the ballast cleaners and cutters. I think there might have been one than more set
Mendip rail beets it. train id 7A09, morning jumbo, Merehead Quarry-Acton Tc normally has 48 wagons, and weighs in at just over 4800, with 1 engine i might add. would you expect anything else from a general motors machine? lovely to see. normally leaves the quarry about 7:30 am
I like long trains too. Way back in 1921 Virginian Railways class AE 2-10-10-2 number 808 hauled a mile and a quarter long train of fully loaded 120ton coal gondolas from Princetown to Sewalls Point on the Atlantic seaboard. Some 20,000 tonnes behind a single locomotive. Those were the days of steam traction.
A class 70 would be nice on this service, but I bet they weren't really in service that much, as they were built in late 2009, possibly entering service around mid-2010.
An amazing catch only once in several years. Funny thing is in America that would be considered short. Usually trains in this country only last about 30 seconds.
My trains at Westbury video has these wagons not sure how long but its a slow move so you can count easily. Must have been lots of wheelslip there on the curve
It is probably the longest train in the UK today, but unlikely to be the longest train ever to run in the UK. When it comes to long trains the Lindsey oil trains are long, some are over 30 tanks, but this in this video is even longer but it isnt heavier
HOBC High output ballast cleaner. Just over half a mile long and worked top n tail. Only other train i know of in the uk of similar length was the cement train that worked on HS1 between dartford and St Pancras.
46+ 2 loco's push pull. Yep, that's impressive. The longest I've ever driven is 24 + (2x class 86) double headed with 2 other drivers (40 m.p.h. max) and we caused a whole load of shit. The signalers had to work really hard too so we didn't mess up the track circuits. Needless to say, the attempt was never made again on our network. At a guess, this was to do with the WCML upgrade.
If you do find out anymore please post as that sounds interesting. I do like long trains and find the US and Canada really interesting but this train at York is a good start for the UK.
Wow that is impressive for a t-n-t 66 working. Take off those silencers then notch the brute up to Notch 8 and they will make a dramatic howl that can be heard for miles! Well they are more of less an SD70MAC that has been squashed and dulled down into the UK loading gauge.
Actually there is quite a difference because an SD70 has a V16 engine and the class 66 is a V12, believe me there is quite a difference when you hear them in real life.
Longest and heaviest was allegedly 11982 tons and 5415 feet and depending on the version of the story it was 59005 on it's own, or 59005 with another 59 on the back. It's been said to be both an engineers train and a stone train, so maybe was ballast related. I don't buy it being a single 59 though. I'm quite sure that if FY ran them with 5100 tons behind there'd be something left in the tank, but not another 7000!
Cool, If you go to Birmingham new Street on a Sunday morning (get there at about 9 o clock ) there's normally a direct rail services 66 that comes in with a huge train
I rarely ever see a train as short as 46 cars in the United States. Just had one with 120+ cars go past my house, and it is just a small freight line, there were 4 engines up front, none rear, it was longer than usual, but nothing special worth recording.
We are a country of short trains, but many. I live just south of York and at the busiest time we have 30+ trains per hour. It would be good to have longer trains but then the passing places and yards would need to be longer too.
Felixjaz wow, 30+ trains an hour? Usually it is a train back and forth once every few days. Mostly just corn, so it isn't all that important and can wait a few days between trains. When it is really busy in the fall, we can have up to 6 trains a day! (1 direction, not back and forth, generally 4 east and 2 west). Generally I only record trains if there is something special or 150+ cars... I know I have a video of 6 engines sitting around on a computer that I need to upload to RUclips...
It's one of the longest trains in the UK but by no means the longest. As said, the MRL stone trains are longer, as are the DB Schenker Automotive/wagonload trunk trains.
Oh sorry for any misunderstanding I seem to judge any GM locomotive for that. It's just we have a 201 Class locomotive where I am from, and it pretty much has the same engine and looks so I just thought that it would have HEP.
To put the length of the train into context it is 0.47 miles long. Tractive effort of the Class 66 91,000 lbf compared with the Deltic's 50,000 lbf. Although Horsepower wise it is the same as the Deltic at 3,300 hp. The class 68 comes out very powerfully with 3,800 hp making it the most powerful loco on our rails yet it its tractive effort is only 71,000 lbf. I need to do a bit more research on the horsepower stakes but the Deltic is either the 2nd or 3rd most powerful loco in the UK not bad to say it is over 50 years old.
I agree with you there, Sir! That is longest one I've yet on You Tube as to trains in the G.B.! As in America the longest trains are usually coal trains, anywhere from 120 to 150 cars in length. Two Locomotives up front with one in the rear as the pusher. But your is by far much longer, not compared to the states, but to your standards in G.B., and the tonnage as well. Wow, Great Catch.
Very good video :-). I say!!! :-O :-O :-O. What a really long train :-O. The class 66 was pulling far too many trucks in one go :-O. Really? 46 trucks in one go? That's far too many trucks for a class 66 to pull in one go. But very good video anyway and I wished I could see a 66 again one day :-). Have a nice evening :-). From Foxy :-).
Gasp! You actually put two locomotives on one train. I am shocked...SHOCKED. Friend once explained to me when I asked about the lack of rail freight in the UK that the UK doesn't have enough industry to support longer trains. The economy is based on finance.
Jersey Mike's Rail Videos As others have said on this video (I recognise you from the SimSig forums, incidentally!), part of the problem is the existing infrastructure designed to handle trains no longer than a few hundred metres, and the fact that these trains need to fit around very frequent passenger trains. You'd have to build dedicated freight lines, either that or have an insane amount of acceleration and high top speed given the length of the trains.
Jersey Mike's Rail Videos And what sort of effect do you think that'll have on passenger numbers? It's almost as if making trains conveniently frequent so people can plan the trains around their day, rather than planning their day around the trains, would encourage usage... I would argue that America should try running more, shorter trains (incidentally, this has been demonstrated quite beautifully by Virgin CrossCountry as not being a viable tactic, since the mere act of increasing frequency, speed and reliability caused passenger numbers to increase significantly such that the new trains were not actually long enough... we still have this issue today, though hopefully not for much longer as major cascades will be happening soon thanks to mainline electrifications).
Wouldn't like to get caught at a crossing when this Australian monster comes through... 'The train consisted of 682 loaded iron ore wagons and 8 GE AC6000 locomotives giving a gross weight of almost 100,000 tonnes and moved 82,262 tonnes of ore, the train was 7.353 km (4.568 miles) long' Type into the youtube searchbar..... Longest train officially in the world
the longest train on the (now long since destroyed) ingleton branch was 100 (or there abouts) my dad saw it but i can't remember what train was hauling the episized train load
Britain is only a very small island, not a huge and enormous country like America; our trains are not too long. By UK standards, this is certainly the longest train ever!
Nice to hear a 66 revving that high. Imagine how it would sound with a few 37's at the front...
Sign of the times, no passing roads in the middle, all been removed.
Foster Yeoman used to run a service with a single Class 59 and 50 102T aggregate wagons, for 5100 tons and probably a similar length. However, the longest and heaviest train even on UK metals was a test train that Yeoman ran in conjunction with the RTC to study the feasibility of a 'megatrain'. 59005 hauled 58 102T wagons to a point just down the line from Merehead, whereupon another 57 wagons topped and tailed by 59001 and 59003. 59003 was not under power for the duration of the experiment as it was simply there packed with instruments as a test lab. Initially, the entire formation was started by 59005, and once it was underway 59001 assisted. 59005 therefore set what was then a European record for the heaviest train hauled by a single locomotive (albeit only for a short distance) of 11982 tons. The total length of the formation was 5415 feet. It was not a particularly successful test, as it took the best part of ten minutes for a full brake release, and after a signal check, this resulted in a bad snatch when under power again. The strain sheared the point off the screw coupling of 59001, and the train was severed. It was concluded that buckeyes would need fitting from end to end to ensure the same did not happen again, so while they fitted a new hook on 59001, it was deemed likely to happen again before they reached Acton, so they took both halves of the train away individually.
Can't understand why they haven't moved into the 21st (or even 20th) century and fitted auto couplers. Australia used dual coupled locos while they were changing over, 90 years ago!
@@cliffleigh7450 most of our freight trains aren't heavy enough to need them so we don't have them
@@JakeyG-eq1un It's the ease of coupling and uncoupling also, as well as the increased safety of not having to go between the vehicles. You don't need buffers either.
Interesting. If the wagons had Buckeyes, don't the 59s?
A lot of older locos had dual couplings didn't they? Eg. A drop-down buckeye, or was that just coaches?
66526 has a plaque on it in remembrance of a Freightliner driver who died in the Great Heck rail crash.
Yes very sad. Going to a talk about the Great Heck crash next month.
imagine being at a level crossing
Lol
I have, on my way to work it's a bit of a beast
LOL only to find that after this has gone through another is on its way !!!!!!
The Freight trains in America can get over 100 cars long. So imagine getting stuck behind that!
@@KCSRailstudios hm
I've never seen video of a British train longer than 30 cars before! That's a really nice catch, and It's not too surprising that it's a network rail ballast train!
The ore trains here in Australia are usually a few Kilometres long and usually have more than 4 locos for each train!
I worked at Whittlea signal box for many years and 6Y50 came by regularly it was an amazing sight
770metres = 0.478 miles. A shade under half a mile long. That's pretty long lol. Great vid!
Wow, In America they're usually 90-140. Our freight is amazing, but our passenger services are seriously lacking compared to Europe.
Good point. The UK should have longer freight trains and the US have more passenger services!
I've been watching the webcam in chesterton near chicago and yes I was amazed and surprised at the length of your double decked freight trains. It helps take many, many trucks of USA highways. The problem with UK freight is that we share the same rail track with national/regional passengers trains, and many sidings are just not long enough to accommodate these trains.
EinkOLED You need to reactivate the GCML as a dedicated freight main line under private ownership.
Our freight trains do operate at around 60-75mph which those huge trains in the US seldom get close to, who wins the argument between moving more freight but slowly or moving less freight but more quickly I wonder and one only has to go back to some of the old coal trains running on the Woodhead to see we did once operate such long single carry type trains ourselves, the vast coaling operation say at Wath was without peer anywhere in the world at its height so the trans Pennine part of the country had electricity.
Ian Watson The DRG&W tried the fast freight concept, but it was eventually uneconomical as fuel prices increased.
"In time, the Rio Grande's fast freight philosophy gave way to SP's long-established practice of running long, slow trains. A contributing factor was the rising cost of diesel fuel, a trend that set in after the 1973 oil crisis, which gradually undermined the D&RGW's fuel-consuming "fast freight" philosophy. By the early 1990s, the combined Rio Grande/Southern Pacific Railroad had lost much of the competitive advantage that made it attractive to transcontinental shippers, and became largely dependent on hauling the high-quality coal produced in the mine fields of Colorado and Utah."
Nice shot. It is a High Output Ballast Cleaning train (HOBC) - a very impressive machine, both in its size and what it can do. There is also the HOTR High Output Track Renewals Train, which must be almost as long and again, an impressive machine.
Nice looking train. I work the on the rails in Canada (CN Kamloops Terminal) and my longest was an intermodal which was over 12,000ft in length and about 20,000 tonnes. A short train over here is considered to be between 6,000 and 9,000ft in length. BTW I worked on the Tube (LU) for 18 years too and have a lot of respect for UK rail so I'm not starting a pissing contest.
Hello John, Thanks. Visited Kamloops in 2002 and loved BC so much visited again!
we see those things out here too in Ontario ... they are pretty long ... thing though about uk trains is that there is coolness factor to them that kind of gets lost in translation: smaller yes but really interesting.
When I was working on the Railway as Relief Crossing Keeper at Lock Lane, just outside Trent Junction, Control sent us rather a long train to deal with. It was a double-decker car carrying train, for which the entire line had been cleared so it could enjoy a 'clear run' and I counted the time it took to clear my crossing box. Compared with the above example, passing York, I have calculated that this special was longer in overall length.It put road- carrying car transporters very much into the shade! A later estimate suggested she carried two thousand vehicles at a single swipe. Not bad going, eh?I have not seen anything like this since leaving the area in 97.Alistair Kewish
They've ran a 4000+ tons recently
it is actually one of the high output ballast cleaners; impressive when its at work; looks like a lit up village!
Several of them, surely?
And they're impressive, yes, but also bloody slow and bloody noisy when working their way past your bedroom window at 2.30am! I'm glad the job they do seems to be one that needs doing less than once a year on a typical piece of track... think I've ended up watching (and cursing) every single one that's come past. The first time was fascinating, the repeat visits... not so much.
Still, prefer that to having to work on one. It looks like a pretty dull, yet thankless task. Just sitting there with your mandatory earmuffs on, still being driven half deaf and half mad by the noise, having to keep your eye on a couple of monitors whilst the machine plods relentlessly onwards doing its thing automatically, fighting the urge to sleep that the rhythmic drop-rumble-lift-scoot-drop cycle can't exactly help with... and probably half freezing to death in the winter because the firey bit is quite a long way off from your position almost hanging off the back of the unit.
Try Reading West station one day. Usually 5-6 freight per hour, stone empties 45 hopper-wagons, freight liners 30+, loaded stone 20+ hoppers, car transporters miles (!), oil train 20+, Engineers train rail sleepers etc. All that lot mixed with HSTs, Voyagers, Turbos, and the occasional special steam/diesel. Add an assortment of drunks, junkies and 'travellers', It makes for an interesting few hours of watching.
Absolutely amazing catch Felix! Was it about 04.00 when it passed York? The sunrise can just be seen beyond the canopy. Well worth hanging around for. Well done mate! Ken
In Australia, thinking that is a long freight train is absolutely adorable.
Yeah, but in aus if any of your trains went over 100mph they'd have to go have a lie down with some smelling salts for a day.
+boltar2003 why smelling salts?
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I forgot aussies don't really get sarcasm either.
Aiden Teszke
They're not designed for it. But they are designed for -25C in a scottish winter. You barely even know what snow and ice is down there.
Exactly, it's apples and orange to compare the systems. Seeing as the UK is a much smaller country with a larger population, thus making it more suited to passengers, hence they have no need to run massive 2km long double stacked freight trains like Australia does daily
I gotta say, I'm a fan of Class 66, as you can probably see, and Two of them is epic........ I think they should have double-headed that!!!
This train was featured on BBC news tonite doing the GEML, much of it for the first time since laying down in Victorian times.
It's a great train to see. Was this the local BBC news?
Felixjaz www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31010111
Ian Watson Thanks for the link.
Felixjaz NP its an amazing train to behold and powered by a pair of diesels that seem to drag it along with little issue shows how powerful our locos are today :) Wondering if I could replicate this on Train Simulator as I have the autoballasters and the engines but not sure how many of each wagon there is.
KoreanLady 1997 love the caps, and excessive swearing. keep it up
66526 "Driver Steve Dunn". The train is heading towards the site of the tragic crash in 2001. Great Heck. RIP to all the victims. God bless you all. 😢
Wow only one 66 hauling all of that
Edit: Nevermind, train was so long I didn't see the 66 at the end
Great video, liked and faved :)
I'm surprised FL let a 66/5 loose with that one, especially with the length and weight of the HOBC :)
WOW! This is awesome! I was astounded at the number of wagons and what they were carrying! And all on one engine?? Impressive!
I counted 2 engines!
Loco on the rear.
Medium Output Ballast Cleaner. The cars at the start are spoil wagons with a conveyor belt to move spoil down the train, it means you can load the whole from one point.
The other bits are the ballast cleaners and cutters. I think there might have been one than more set
Wow. So spoil travels Al. The way from one wagon yo the next? How are they powered?
Ahhh good ol' 66 with Freightliner livery :) but that's a long one
Mendip rail beets it. train id 7A09, morning jumbo, Merehead Quarry-Acton Tc normally has 48 wagons, and weighs in at just over 4800, with 1 engine i might add. would you expect anything else from a general motors machine? lovely to see. normally leaves the quarry about 7:30 am
I like long trains too. Way back in 1921 Virginian Railways class AE 2-10-10-2 number 808 hauled a mile and a quarter long train of fully loaded 120ton coal gondolas from Princetown to Sewalls Point on the Atlantic seaboard. Some 20,000 tonnes behind a single locomotive. Those were the days of steam traction.
A class 70 would be nice on this service, but I bet they weren't really in service that much, as they were built in late 2009, possibly entering service around mid-2010.
An amazing catch only once in several years. Funny thing is in America that would be considered short. Usually trains in this country only last about 30 seconds.
My trains at Westbury video has these wagons not sure how long but its a slow move so you can count easily. Must have been lots of wheelslip there on the curve
The train had been working overnight north of York and had a crew change before continuing to Doncaster.
That was simply amazing to watch.. thanks for sharing!!!
It is probably the longest train in the UK today, but unlikely to be the longest train ever to run in the UK.
When it comes to long trains the Lindsey oil trains are long, some are over 30 tanks, but this in this video is even longer but it isnt heavier
HOBC High output ballast cleaner. Just over half a mile long and worked top n tail. Only other train i know of in the uk of similar length was the cement train that worked on HS1 between dartford and St Pancras.
Yes sometimes 66s can be impressive!
46+ 2 loco's push pull. Yep, that's impressive. The longest I've ever driven is 24 + (2x class 86) double headed with 2 other drivers (40 m.p.h. max) and we caused a whole load of shit. The signalers had to work really hard too so we didn't mess up the track circuits. Needless to say, the attempt was never made again on our network.
At a guess, this was to do with the WCML upgrade.
If you do find out anymore please post as that sounds interesting. I do like long trains and find the US and Canada really interesting but this train at York is a good start for the UK.
Its a 66/5, they are geared lower than a standard 66 and develop a starting tractive effort similar to a 60 or a 59.
i have seen a EWS go through weston-s-mare on the mainline with around 70+ HTA's
Wow that is impressive for a t-n-t 66 working. Take off those silencers then notch the brute up to Notch 8 and they will make a dramatic howl that can be heard for miles! Well they are more of less an SD70MAC that has been squashed and dulled down into the UK loading gauge.
Actually there is quite a difference because an SD70 has a V16 engine and the class 66 is a V12, believe me there is quite a difference when you hear them in real life.
Longest and heaviest was allegedly 11982 tons and 5415 feet and depending on the version of the story it was 59005 on it's own, or 59005 with another 59 on the back. It's been said to be both an engineers train and a stone train, so maybe was ballast related. I don't buy it being a single 59 though. I'm quite sure that if FY ran them with 5100 tons behind there'd be something left in the tank, but not another 7000!
That's an impressive length. What I do know is that our HEAVIEST trains are those Stone trains from the Mendips.
Sometimes run by a 59.
foolguy6 That's right
No, there are longer services. Westbury - Acton Stone trains, which run regularly, are 1/2 a mile long.
Excellent ...thaat was long ..down here in the west country we call it the mile long train ...and yes I think it is the longest in the Uk
Here in Leicester we do have a freight train which is approx. 1/2 mile long, we call it the Octopus.
Very impressive, interesting wagons
It looks like a shed and sounds like a Kenwood Chef
...from hell
I'd be interested if anyone has more details about this Nottingham service. Thanks.
Cool, If you go to Birmingham new Street on a Sunday morning (get there at about 9 o clock ) there's normally a direct rail services 66 that comes in with a huge train
1:02 I think I can I think I can
I rarely ever see a train as short as 46 cars in the United States. Just had one with 120+ cars go past my house, and it is just a small freight line, there were 4 engines up front, none rear, it was longer than usual, but nothing special worth recording.
We are a country of short trains, but many. I live just south of York and at the busiest time we have 30+ trains per hour. It would be good to have longer trains but then the passing places and yards would need to be longer too.
Felixjaz wow, 30+ trains an hour? Usually it is a train back and forth once every few days. Mostly just corn, so it isn't all that important and can wait a few days between trains. When it is really busy in the fall, we can have up to 6 trains a day! (1 direction, not back and forth, generally 4 east and 2 west). Generally I only record trains if there is something special or 150+ cars... I know I have a video of 6 engines sitting around on a computer that I need to upload to RUclips...
So can anyone tell what exactly those cars are? Track layers? See them all the time and really bugs me
Thanks for subbing. Felixjaz.
Ive seen a few of those up Bescot Freight Yard :)
The engines powering so hard and loud and you’re expecting it to blast off then it just crrrrrreeeeeeeeps 🤣
No probs! These are used mainly for freight here so HEP is not needed.
What is the routing for this working ?
ECML (Colton - Temple Hirst), or via Knottingley, or via Gascoigne Wood - Selby - & the old ECML ??
Cheers.
I now live in Canada, as yes u can wait for about 35 when u get stuck at a level crossing, waiting for a 2 mile train roll in.
It's the High Output Ballast Cleaner
I look at it most days, it's great!
Two engines! On normal trains they need two and there a quarter of the size of that and there pretty much empty! ( I'm from the uk by the way)
Well the passenger trains do go fast
It's one of the longest trains in the UK but by no means the longest. As said, the MRL stone trains are longer, as are the DB Schenker Automotive/wagonload trunk trains.
In the 30s and 40s a single LMS Garrett was expected to pull up to 90 loaded coal wagons, almost 1500 tons, or 100 empty, so nothing new really.
The longest train was back in the '90's. I read in Railway Magazine that is was over 4500 feet long.
Oh sorry for any misunderstanding I seem to judge any GM locomotive for that. It's just we have a 201 Class locomotive where I am from, and it pretty much has the same engine and looks so I just thought that it would have HEP.
Then again the class 59 cement train, ooh very heavy
To put the length of the train into context it is 0.47 miles long. Tractive effort of the Class 66 91,000 lbf compared with the Deltic's 50,000 lbf. Although Horsepower wise it is the same as the Deltic at 3,300 hp. The class 68 comes out very powerfully with 3,800 hp making it the most powerful loco on our rails yet it its tractive effort is only 71,000 lbf. I need to do a bit more research on the horsepower stakes but the Deltic is either the 2nd or 3rd most powerful loco in the UK not bad to say it is over 50 years old.
Diesel loco that is.
@TransportLondonPhoto there were 2 i at the front one at the rear?
I agree with you there, Sir! That is longest one I've yet on You Tube as to trains in the G.B.! As in America the longest trains are usually coal trains, anywhere from 120 to 150 cars in length. Two Locomotives up front with one in the rear as the pusher. But your is by far much longer, not compared to the states, but to your standards in G.B., and the tonnage as well. Wow, Great Catch.
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I think I have seen this train a few times but what is it hauling?
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Surprised the loco's get traction, nice vid
In Australia we have 1000 m + long trains on the Perth/Adelaide to Melbourne frieght's but even so that's pretty good for 2 loco's
I can only see one on the front and one on the rear. I don't know how much help the one on the rear would provide but yeah it should make it easier.
Very good video :-). I say!!! :-O :-O :-O. What a really long train :-O. The class 66 was pulling far too many trucks in one go :-O. Really? 46 trucks in one go? That's far too many trucks for a class 66 to pull in one go. But very good video anyway and I wished I could see a 66 again one day :-). Have a nice evening :-).
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no this one is not the one that is GBRf class 66 (orange) in Dalston Junction Station
It's the RM900 RT High Output Ballast Cleaner.
Gasp! You actually put two locomotives on one train. I am shocked...SHOCKED.
Friend once explained to me when I asked about the lack of rail freight in the UK that the UK doesn't have enough industry to support longer trains. The economy is based on finance.
Jersey Mike's Rail Videos As others have said on this video (I recognise you from the SimSig forums, incidentally!), part of the problem is the existing infrastructure designed to handle trains no longer than a few hundred metres, and the fact that these trains need to fit around very frequent passenger trains. You'd have to build dedicated freight lines, either that or have an insane amount of acceleration and high top speed given the length of the trains.
You could try running fewer, longer trains instead of those bitty 2-car MUs.
Jersey Mike's Rail Videos And what sort of effect do you think that'll have on passenger numbers? It's almost as if making trains conveniently frequent so people can plan the trains around their day, rather than planning their day around the trains, would encourage usage... I would argue that America should try running more, shorter trains (incidentally, this has been demonstrated quite beautifully by Virgin CrossCountry as not being a viable tactic, since the mere act of increasing frequency, speed and reliability caused passenger numbers to increase significantly such that the new trains were not actually long enough... we still have this issue today, though hopefully not for much longer as major cascades will be happening soon thanks to mainline electrifications).
+Muzer0 Regarding VXC, the best solution would have been higher frequency and trains as long as or longer than the ones they replaced.
+Owen Evans Of course, that's what I'm saying.
Err Seen two videos of this train and was wondering why each loco is front and rear and not double headed?
Nice ballast replacement train.
That's the HOBC isn't it?
Crikey! that Class 66 had it's work cut out.... Nice vid :)
There was another one at the end, so they shared duties.
must have been half way to doncaster by the time the last wagon went through lol
I think I may have seen longer but I can't recall correctly, it may have been slightly fewer come to think of it. I will go check quickly!
Nope, not quite long enough. 42 wagons was the one I filmed.
Good video I have subscribed
I do believe it's two trains in one. It splits when on site for engineering work.
Yes it still is the official longest train in the UK.
Wouldn't like to get caught at a crossing when this Australian monster comes through... 'The train consisted of 682 loaded iron ore wagons and 8 GE AC6000 locomotives giving a gross weight of almost 100,000 tonnes and moved 82,262 tonnes of ore, the train was 7.353 km (4.568 miles) long'
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Longest train officially in the world
What's the wagon type? been trying to find their names for years
+afxinfinitee Ballast cleaners.
Jos I meant the three letter one, e.g. HTA for the Coal Hoppers. But thanks anyway, at least I know exactly what they're for now.
afxinfinitee do you mean the power cars either side of the cleaner in the middle?
Automatic ballasting cars. They train is a set well a couple of sets linked together.
Blimey. I am surprised one Class 66 can take all that weight.
Comfortable enough sat up front mate!
seen one att spondon today
the longest train on the (now long since destroyed) ingleton branch was 100 (or there abouts) my dad saw it but i can't remember what train was hauling the episized train load
How many km and how many cars
Ahhhhh thank you for the information.
ive thought ive seen one longer 47 cars
It's the fact it takes 2m13s to actually pass through........amazing!
Britain is only a very small island, not a huge and enormous country like America; our trains are not too long. By UK standards, this is certainly the longest train ever!