I feel palantir of orthanc is better than one ring in certain decks. Not only dp you get a card draw, but you scry, you can proliferate the counters, it damages the opponents, and you can recur pieces that get milled.
@FaithlessLooting I slid one in my mana heavy hidetsugu exile deck, and it is hilarious when they take the damage of 3 titans! Outside of that, there are so many ways to bring things back in almost all colors.
The One Ring really helps my handful of decks that don’t have car draw and need to compete with all the power creep. I absolutely love it and I had better not bandit
Archfiend of Despair is incredibly powerful in certain decks like Rakdos Valgavoth. Its Wound Reflection on a body that you can do crazy shenanigans like Saw in half (double Wound reflection) and insta win with Heartless Hidetsugu ( everyone lose half their life, now each opponent loses that same amount again) or do massive damage with your beefed up Valgavoth and Kediss Emberclaw familiar (damage one opponent, now all take that damage and Archfiend makes them take it again) or even wheel effects and triple damage enchantments in play (draw 7, take 3 damage per card, 21 damage now take another 21) The card says each end step, including your own, so you don't have to wait for archfiend to go all around and get back to you to get value, all these examples I gave are all as soon as you cast him on your turn!!!
The One Ring does not need to be banned. We need to be leaning into Rule Zero and understanding 'maintaining table' and 'keeping things casual' mean different things to different players. Quit banning fun cards or suggesting they be banned. If 'that opponent' keeps winning and won't swap decks, swap tables. Banning cards is rarely a good idea in such a sandbox idea format like EDH. Casual was meant to be casual rules and enforcement with Rule Zero, not low power.
@@FaithlessLooting so tired of casuals weaponizing rule 0. Powerful cards can be fun too! If you want to play at a lower power level, fine, but do not ask me to leave the pod or ban strong cards in my deck if yours can’t compete with the argument of this being a “casual” format. “Casual” does not mean weak!
@donb7519 I've never seen it rule zeroed out. Ever. I guess I play with level headed folks and shops. Rule zero isn't each players personal ban list. It's just agreeing to play decks.
Chromatic Lantern is simply a QOL card. Not needing to think how you crank your lands is simply convenient. That’s why it goes into so many commander decks 😂
@@Barturito It’s just one mana rock in the 99 and I am rarely not happy to pull it. Obviously it doesn’t belong into decks that can ramp in other ways, but in others it’s a usually pleasant inclusion and that’s what counts IMO.
I love chromatic lantern in my decks that run 3 or more colors. I dont rely on it, but it makes my life easier and im never mad to pull it I guess part of it is cuz my playgroup keeps it cool and casual
Archfiend of despair... you don't reanimator it at the game start, always cast your bad stuff first and then when opponent have less cards go for it. I killed many (reanimated) Valgavoth, Terror Eater just by casting Sheoldred's Edict or sacrifice cards
I spent 50 dollars on a single One Ring and its in my Giada deck because mono white angels struggles with card draw since white likes to draw cards with cheap low to the ground creatures. If i need more i can just proxy it now
Descent into Avernus is boss. You get the mana first, and building in artifact hate means you can take away the benefit from opponents after the first couple go arounds by using some of your treasures to wipe all of theirs.
Descent into avernus is worth it for the fun but maybe not the power. I love its effect on speeding up the game and enabling the big plays only possible in commander.
I pulled the one ring. The only de k I run it in is queza, augur of agonies. I don't really run it in anything else. Casually don't buy the one ring unless you just want it.
I once played against a guy who was using Glacial Chasm and he was doing Cumulative Upkeep wrong and no one in our pod noticed because he had so many upkeep triggers. He must've had it on the field for 6 turns and only paid 12 life for it. I will never make that mistake again. That game ended up being like 3 hours
Hey just wondering, where do you get your card prices because the price of a lot of these are very inflated, such as beseech the mirror, which is only 12 on tcg player
Hello! 👋 11:30 Funny that you mention Sheoldred. Keijus here from the whatnot auction a few weeks back. I asked you to draw her as a token. Well I now have 4. I cracked one last Saturday. I couldn't believe it. I have 3 regular art and one alt art.
The ONLY reason I own a 1 ring is I got sooo lucky that a game stop had 1 bundle left that had it as a promo and was selling it at the originalish of like 55 bucks instead of the 120 bucks.
I sincerely doubt they will ban The One Ring anytime soon, Post Malone dropped like 2 million on it. It was one of the biggest draws that the game has ever had. I think the only reason that they haven't banned it in modern is the optics, having it banned in nearly every format after the publicity of Post Malone buying the card would look horrible for Wizards and they now control every ban list.
I really want to buy one ring for my Sauron, the dark lord commander deck for both flavor and it's just an amazing card. I'm just hesitant to buy it because idk if it's gonna get banned in commander
I love descent into avernus it is one of my favourite cards of all time even though it often leads to my death. It’s insane in my neheb the eternal deck. It really speeds up the game in my Obeka splitter of seconds deck.
Sword of Feast and Famine was really fun and powerful back in 2014 when I started but now its outdated. Id rather play this over sword of the animist, though.
I’m still not big on the life loss of the ring, but would Tibalt’s Trickery be good in a blue adjacent deck as a Chaos Warp type fun card that can be turned into a value piece? Also though I’ll buy 15 Metamorphosis Fanatic-
removing Age counters from Glacial Chasm with a Scholar of New Horizons turns it from a land that doesn't make mana to one that gets you another land every turn and stays life neutral in Oloro
The dovehawk definitely has the issue where it's too expensive (real world money wise) for the power level that it's designed for, if I'm gonna buy a 25 dollar upgrade for my token deck, the hawk is WAY down tbe list of options
I picked it up at ~$7 kicking myself for not getting it when it was $3. Can't believe it keeps going up, I REALLY hope it gets a reprint so I can get a couple more copies!
One Ring was included in a Bundle Box including 8 packs. Mine I got it for $45 a box. Did not buy any Collector and Draft boxes. So don't complain why it's $80. If your not in front then you must be last. Wait for a year of 2, for a reprint. Not guaranteed that prices will go down. I uses the Sword FF, when I don't have green or somewhat storm deck. All the other notable cards prices are questionable. You have to question, what does it do if it's on play or not. There are some cards that you need 2 or 3 for an effect of one card and is 90% cheaper. But the hustle, to get both into play. Just like meld cards. Until now I never had a chance to meld 2 Angel cards. Card prices is a scam. We love to play MTG that others have it getting dust. We pay the price.
@@kapiatgatas I think you missed the entire point of the video and u definitely are in the minority with this one. The only thing I will say is yes, people can complain about the price of a card when it’s an extremely pushed card that is made for the company to make money, and I own a one ring. Yes card prices are a scam but that’s on wizards not the people and the people can complain about the lack of reprints and the obvious pushing of the power levels of cards just to make money
@@silasmyers3192 I do get the point. But I'm also pointing out people tend to cost them more instead of less. The title of the clip if I'm not mistaken I quote "If the said cards are worth the money?" It was pointed out how good the card is in certain decks.
Glacial Chasm needs to be banned in commander. Edh says we shouldn’t interact with lands so decks are purposely built to not be able to handle this…all damage is INSANE..it is also always in landfall decks and they never pay the life
who says we should not interact with lands? there are land answers available to all colors: generous gift, beast within, chaos warp and demolition field, just to name a few that are budget. Every EDH deck should include at least one way to deal with a problematic land because you are bound to find one, not just glacial chasm there is also field of the dead, Nyktos, Dark depths, the three tree city, etc
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For Timmies, yes.
I feel palantir of orthanc is better than one ring in certain decks.
Not only dp you get a card draw, but you scry, you can proliferate the counters, it damages the opponents, and you can recur pieces that get milled.
Love Palantir. Swapped One Ring into my Sauron, the Dark Lord deck from my Lotho deck and slid Palantir into Lotho. Both decks got much better.
@FaithlessLooting I slid one in my mana heavy hidetsugu exile deck, and it is hilarious when they take the damage of 3 titans!
Outside of that, there are so many ways to bring things back in almost all colors.
Palantir is a blast...I've run it in my Eldrazi deck since it was printed and now I run it in Kona. People get scared of it and just hand you cards😄
The One Ring really helps my handful of decks that don’t have car draw and need to compete with all the power creep. I absolutely love it and I had better not bandit
Archfiend of Despair is incredibly powerful in certain decks like Rakdos Valgavoth. Its Wound Reflection on a body that you can do crazy shenanigans like Saw in half (double Wound reflection) and insta win with Heartless Hidetsugu ( everyone lose half their life, now each opponent loses that same amount again) or do massive damage with your beefed up Valgavoth and Kediss Emberclaw familiar (damage one opponent, now all take that damage and Archfiend makes them take it again) or even wheel effects and triple damage enchantments in play (draw 7, take 3 damage per card, 21 damage now take another 21) The card says each end step, including your own, so you don't have to wait for archfiend to go all around and get back to you to get value, all these examples I gave are all as soon as you cast him on your turn!!!
Here is a fun drinking game: find 1+ hour long mtg videos, and take a drink every time you hear the word card. You will be drunk in 10 minutes.
The One Ring does not need to be banned. We need to be leaning into Rule Zero and understanding 'maintaining table' and 'keeping things casual' mean different things to different players. Quit banning fun cards or suggesting they be banned. If 'that opponent' keeps winning and won't swap decks, swap tables. Banning cards is rarely a good idea in such a sandbox idea format like EDH. Casual was meant to be casual rules and enforcement with Rule Zero, not low power.
@@FaithlessLooting so tired of casuals weaponizing rule 0. Powerful cards can be fun too! If you want to play at a lower power level, fine, but do not ask me to leave the pod or ban strong cards in my deck if yours can’t compete with the argument of this being a “casual” format. “Casual” does not mean weak!
It’s still a hefty 4 drop to play. Super good, but at what cost? I love and enjoy it but not in every deck at all.
Ok but if most people rule 0 it out shouldn't it probably just be banned to make stuff easier then dedicated playgroups can rule 0 it in.
@donb7519 I've never seen it rule zeroed out. Ever. I guess I play with level headed folks and shops. Rule zero isn't each players personal ban list. It's just agreeing to play decks.
@donb7519 Rule 0ing in a card is basically impossible unless you're in a regular playgroup. Pick-up games at your LGS? Not going to happen.
Nitpicking nerds is always worth buying. Got 1 coming in the mail.
Beseech the mirror is like $13 on TCGplayer tho. Like Moxfield is cool, for sure, but not "half the cost" cool.
Chromatic Lantern is simply a QOL card. Not needing to think how you crank your lands is simply convenient. That’s why it goes into so many commander decks 😂
You’re playing the wrong game if you’re not tryna think
See but people rely on it, and good lands have gotten so cheap now that it renders the card maybe not useless but much worse
@@Barturito It’s just one mana rock in the 99 and I am rarely not happy to pull it. Obviously it doesn’t belong into decks that can ramp in other ways, but in others it’s a usually pleasant inclusion and that’s what counts IMO.
@@silasmyers3192 There’s definitely better mana fixing out there, but it still does what it needs to.
@@ChronoMoogle its not a common occurrence but it has saved my butt when people drop a blood moon style effect
I love chromatic lantern in my decks that run 3 or more colors. I dont rely on it, but it makes my life easier and im never mad to pull it
I guess part of it is cuz my playgroup keeps it cool and casual
Archfiend of despair... you don't reanimator it at the game start, always cast your bad stuff first and then when opponent have less cards go for it. I killed many (reanimated) Valgavoth, Terror Eater just by casting Sheoldred's Edict or sacrifice cards
I spent 50 dollars on a single One Ring and its in my Giada deck because mono white angels struggles with card draw since white likes to draw cards with cheap low to the ground creatures. If i need more i can just proxy it now
Descent into Avernus is boss. You get the mana first, and building in artifact hate means you can take away the benefit from opponents after the first couple go arounds by using some of your treasures to wipe all of theirs.
I have Hermit Druid in my Sidisi deck with 12 basics. Still worth it. Hit your land drops, stock you graveyard, make zombies. Win/win/win!
Descent into avernus is worth it for the fun but maybe not the power. I love its effect on speeding up the game and enabling the big plays only possible in commander.
I pulled the one ring. The only de k I run it in is queza, augur of agonies. I don't really run it in anything else. Casually don't buy the one ring unless you just want it.
Disclaimer on those dragon shield art sleeves, they are a pretty tough shuffle. I loved the art and got some and I'm about to change them out.
I once played against a guy who was using Glacial Chasm and he was doing Cumulative Upkeep wrong and no one in our pod noticed because he had so many upkeep triggers. He must've had it on the field for 6 turns and only paid 12 life for it. I will never make that mistake again. That game ended up being like 3 hours
Hey just wondering, where do you get your card prices because the price of a lot of these are very inflated, such as beseech the mirror, which is only 12 on tcg player
Hello! 👋
11:30 Funny that you mention Sheoldred. Keijus here from the whatnot auction a few weeks back. I asked you to draw her as a token. Well I now have 4. I cracked one last Saturday. I couldn't believe it. I have 3 regular art and one alt art.
The ONLY reason I own a 1 ring is I got sooo lucky that a game stop had 1 bundle left that had it as a promo and was selling it at the originalish of like 55 bucks instead of the 120 bucks.
I am here once again to defend my boy Chromatic Lantern
Our battle will rage on for centuries
I have to say I agree with Beezy's Clever Concealment take and I will have to bite the bullet for at least one more copy. My LGS appreciates you haha.
Playing Hermit Druid in my Kethis deck that has 4 basic lands in it is so so good.
I sincerely doubt they will ban The One Ring anytime soon, Post Malone dropped like 2 million on it. It was one of the biggest draws that the game has ever had. I think the only reason that they haven't banned it in modern is the optics, having it banned in nearly every format after the publicity of Post Malone buying the card would look horrible for Wizards and they now control every ban list.
I really want to buy one ring for my Sauron, the dark lord commander deck for both flavor and it's just an amazing card. I'm just hesitant to buy it because idk if it's gonna get banned in commander
I love descent into avernus it is one of my favourite cards of all time even though it often leads to my death. It’s insane in my neheb the eternal deck. It really speeds up the game in my Obeka splitter of seconds deck.
Sword of Feast and Famine was really fun and powerful back in 2014 when I started but now its outdated. Id rather play this over sword of the animist, though.
Clever Concealment and Hermetic Druid. Love those cards!
Love the content keep rocking guys. Just when you see the VPN add... Feel like things are starting to go sideways.
I’m still not big on the life loss of the ring, but would Tibalt’s Trickery be good in a blue adjacent deck as a Chaos Warp type fun card that can be turned into a value piece? Also though I’ll buy 15 Metamorphosis Fanatic-
The One Ring is $160 CAD at my local LGS. I will continue to wait...
Wait for what?
Necro around $10 is a steal, assuming you havent taken damage when cast that comes to around a quarter a card when drawn to your hearts desire 😅
Can they ban The One Ring? Wouldn’t that completely ruin LotR decks, or anything that has the ring tempt you?
I’m happy that wedding announcement got talked about it’s one of my favorite cards in white
Also side note every time I watch your videos I’m always updating my moxfield with new cards it’s really nice so thanks for what y’all do 🎉
So happy to hear that! 😄 updating Moxfield decks is super fun honestly
I really have to wonder what powerlevel games are being played at that a 5 drop like Avacyn isn't ok.
Nesting dovehawk is outright BROKEN in Satya, Aetherflux Genius or any deck which makes copies of creatures
Thinking for a second that The One Ring would be banned in EDH is foolishness with WOTC at the helm. Even before it would be a stretch
The One Ring is the most played card in modern. Even more than any lands...
removing Age counters from Glacial Chasm with a Scholar of New Horizons turns it from a land that doesn't make mana to one that gets you another land every turn and stays life neutral in Oloro
Great comment. Idk about Oloro but scholar is dope
With Foundations spoilers incoming in 2 weeks id wait.
The dovehawk definitely has the issue where it's too expensive (real world money wise) for the power level that it's designed for, if I'm gonna buy a 25 dollar upgrade for my token deck, the hawk is WAY down tbe list of options
I picked it up at ~$7 kicking myself for not getting it when it was $3. Can't believe it keeps going up, I REALLY hope it gets a reprint so I can get a couple more copies!
I'd rather run thieving skydiver and my opponents one ring than buying the one ring.
jus wait for the December in univesre version to be announced
please add timestamps.
How does someone at 4 life survive 6 turns with glacial chasm?
yes, buy it while its still cheap ... they wont be able to reprint this, its already on the reserve list essentially.
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You can build three or even four playable commander decks for the same price as The One Ring.
I think the ring's gonna be banned from modern so wait a bit and get it for cheap afterwards.
Seems reasonable. Chances it gets a ban in Commander are about 0, so proxy until a Modern ban isn't a bad idea
Agreed
The vampires feed on the humans, come on now
One Ring was included in a Bundle Box including 8 packs. Mine I got it for $45 a box. Did not buy any Collector and Draft boxes. So don't complain why it's $80. If your not in front then you must be last. Wait for a year of 2, for a reprint. Not guaranteed that prices will go down. I uses the Sword FF, when I don't have green or somewhat storm deck. All the other notable cards prices are questionable. You have to question, what does it do if it's on play or not. There are some cards that you need 2 or 3 for an effect of one card and is 90% cheaper. But the hustle, to get both into play. Just like meld cards. Until now I never had a chance to meld 2 Angel cards. Card prices is a scam. We love to play MTG that others have it getting dust. We pay the price.
@@kapiatgatas I think you missed the entire point of the video and u definitely are in the minority with this one. The only thing I will say is yes, people can complain about the price of a card when it’s an extremely pushed card that is made for the company to make money, and I own a one ring. Yes card prices are a scam but that’s on wizards not the people and the people can complain about the lack of reprints and the obvious pushing of the power levels of cards just to make money
@@silasmyers3192 I do get the point. But I'm also pointing out people tend to cost them more instead of less. The title of the clip if I'm not mistaken I quote "If the said cards are worth the money?" It was pointed out how good the card is in certain decks.
STOP BANNIG EVERYTHING!!! play more removal and the problem cards get solved
Do you guys not play unfun cards, everyone does
Glacial Chasm needs to be banned in commander.
Edh says we shouldn’t interact with lands so decks are purposely built to not be able to handle this…all damage is INSANE..it is also always in landfall decks and they never pay the life
who says we should not interact with lands? there are land answers available to all colors: generous gift, beast within, chaos warp and demolition field, just to name a few that are budget.
Every EDH deck should include at least one way to deal with a problematic land because you are bound to find one, not just glacial chasm there is also field of the dead, Nyktos, Dark depths, the three tree city, etc
Romancing Shane... SMH... Hahaha!
I have never played his storyline before and I want blue chickens!
Hahaha okay, blue chickens are a valid enough reason. XD
Play in 2 speed. I'm not going to waste an hour of my personal time when I could just put that time at work and have it.
I am confident this channel would get more views if their videos weren't so long.
Stick with your reels and shorts bud. In depth videos will always get the point across better.
I listen to them as background noise as I’m doing other things.
The long vids are like the best part???
Boy do I have a platform of videos just for you
I turn on their videos when I’m headed to the store or work. They run the whole way
Mia is so sour against glacial chasm I might remove it from my decks 🥲
It only depends on what your playgroup thinks! If they’re okay with it, you should keep it in 😄