Not to play devils advocate but leopards armour kinda sucks irl? The hull composite gets defeated by APFSDS as seen when a Russian tank set a Leopards fuel on fire in Ukraine. The turret has been defeated by Lancet drones. I get that the Russian armour is bullshit but the Leopards combat record sucks. Edit: Didn’t mention Turkish Leo’s as they are 2A4’s but they also got smashed to bits in Syria by ATGMS.
@@Rempai420 Out of all the trials done for export, the Leo 2 has always had the best armor compared to other western tanks (especially the leopards with the beak add on armor seen on the 2A7(V), 2A6HEL and STRV 122s). So far there hasn't been any footage of the Leo 2's hull armor being penned from the front by enemy tanks. The only videos claiming to show this are russian propagandists misrepresenting it (I know what video you're referring to. If you looked closely at that video you can see it's actually some AT weapon like an RPG-7 hitting the rear fuel tank which caused fuel to spill under the tank and eventually flow out from underneath the front making it look like it got hit in the front). Same goes for the lancets "defeating" the turret armor. So far I've only seen them manage to damage the smoke screen launchers. Most of the ukranian war footage of leo 2s has been coming from the russian side since russia wants to downplay the effectiveness of leopards for morale and propaganda reasons and ukraine doesn't want to accidentally give away their leopard units' position and violate OPSEC. When it comes to the turkish leopards, those were crewed by turks so it's unsurprising that they couldn't leverage the leopards to their intended potential.
@@genericamerican. M60Ts were also crewed by the Turks and they fared much better in Syria. Besides all this bullshit surrounding the Turkish use of tanks is getting annoying. Turks have been fighting in Syria for the last decade, they have made countless operations against factions that had tonns of ATGM stocks, sure they lost a dozen or so tanks but all that pales in comparison to what has been going on in Ukraine/Israel/Karabakh etc. Russia lost thousands of tanks in less than 2 years, likewise Ukraine, twitter was a shitfest when Ukraine first deployed the Leopards, in the first week they had lost quite a few Leo2s. We saw Azerbaijanis lose tens of tanks to ATGMs, same with Armenians. Lately we have been seeing constant footage of Israeli tanks getting hit/destroyed by RPG-7 type weapons from up close, we have seen militants literally walking up to Israeli tanks and placing AT mines on them. But noone hardly talks about any of these, really shows you the power of directed media… My point is one, one shouldnt expect an unmodernised 80s tank to be able to resist 2000s ATGMs, that is the exact reason why Turks have been modernising their Leo2 stocks lately and two, in battle not everything goes according to plan as can be seen from Israeli tanks getting ambushed. I have always defended APS being installed on tanks, and I still do, if it were Israeli tanks in Syria they would have fared better owing to their active protection systems on the other hand, any other faction without APS whether it would be Germans, French etc. would have fared similar to Turks, they would have lost tanks.. This is my perspective to the overall situation, backed up by evidence and statistics. It feels as if there is a huge Leopard fanboy lynch community online, when Turks lost Leopards in Syria, they lynched the Turks, when Ukrainians lost Leopards, they lynched the Ukrainians, it’s quite annoying but thats beside the point. When it comes to WT, most of the top tier vehicles already have loads of made up stuff. One shouldnt expect it to be realistic, hence instead of waiting for non-existant evidence Gaijin should focus on making the nations more balanced.
Buddy gaijin has yet to correctly implement ANY tank period. After like rank 3 there is always something about a tank that isn’t implemented correctly and it only gets worse the more modern the tank is. You just have to accept that this game is basically just world of tanks with damage models in order to have a sliver of fun
@@lonurad1259 The turret front armour has been replaced so it should be nigh invulnerable everywhere except the mantlet against both kinetic and chemical rounds, the weight should be 66 tons instead of 62.5 and the speed should be similar to something like the Leo 2A6
@@overlordminigun6346 the mantlet is broken on all of them so I don't get that. It's literally a solid block of steel and tungsten with a bit of rubber between. Idea was to give it the same protection roughly as the cheeks. They won't give it that though because for some reason they think it needs to have a weak mantlet to be balanced even though the mantlet weak point actually affects the cheek armour as well. At that about 50% of the front of the turret is unarmoured. That's every challenger 2 and upwards though not just the challenger 3.
It was so much more exciting to unlock vehicles in low tier since they are way more unique than top tier ones. After about 8.7-9.3 it gets repetitive imo.
because gaijin thinks that russian tanks are the most invulnerable, survivable things on the planet even though weve had years of a certain conflict that proves otherwise
@@MrWorldwide00 to be fair no T90M or T80BVM has been destroyed by any opposing force tank as far as i know, pretty much all were mobility, artillery, mine, ATGM & drone kills, in case of the T90M only about 60 were lost, wich is really impressive for being on the frontline for 2 years.
@@DerDrecksack87"ONLY" 60??? Lmao commo man, russians immobilized/destroyed one Leopard 2 and the whole world goes "aLl LeOpArD kApUtT aNd TrAsH" bruh And the t 90m only appeared later in the war not since the beginning. In terms of survivability and combat losses the Leopard 2 surely is the better one of the two.
Any abrams that gets shot die in one shot everywhere but turret face. No spall or better hull armor dm33 has a chance to pen and always does. Russia t90m genraly takes two or more one if your lucky. Leopard 2a7v takes two shots or more as well but can die in one hit at weird angle. All strv after 121 take longer to kill. Itsva shame really even the vt b has more survivability than anrams and leclerc as well as challenger series. Italians suffer really bad now heavier ariete no war kit bad armor poor mobility. F15a is garbage. Along with a few other planes.
VT4A1.mp4 maybe? As a Chinese person, i just wanna say, the VT4A1 its a shit (in game). the whole techtree its full of shit. the Gaijin seems to thinking Chinese morden MBT as a T72 copy. its totally wrong, and they can nerf VT4 by information from Thailand Army VT4 manual, but when you ask them to buff it from manual,they just ask you to prove that manual its not the calssified😂
Which leopard do you like best Leopard 2A6 , PSO, 2A7V?
2A7V no contest.
I haven’t played them yet but off your vids and the spall liner in 2a7 I have to go 2a7
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So far the 2A6.. But my 2A7V is stock. So a bit early to judge, but the DM33 is challenging to use in top tier to put it mildly.
2a7V finally a Leo that can take a hit and got some nice Thermals that wont give me crusty eyes :D
Sad that gaijin gimped it's hull armor all because some unrelated swedish test reports of a pre-leo2A5 prototype from 30 years ago said so.
Sad that Gaijin thinks only Russian tanks are allowed to have armour…
actually true @@-Shadow__Rider-
Not to play devils advocate but leopards armour kinda sucks irl? The hull composite gets defeated by APFSDS as seen when a Russian tank set a Leopards fuel on fire in Ukraine. The turret has been defeated by Lancet drones. I get that the Russian armour is bullshit but the Leopards combat record sucks.
Edit: Didn’t mention Turkish Leo’s as they are 2A4’s but they also got smashed to bits in Syria by ATGMS.
@@Rempai420 Out of all the trials done for export, the Leo 2 has always had the best armor compared to other western tanks (especially the leopards with the beak add on armor seen on the 2A7(V), 2A6HEL and STRV 122s).
So far there hasn't been any footage of the Leo 2's hull armor being penned from the front by enemy tanks. The only videos claiming to show this are russian propagandists misrepresenting it (I know what video you're referring to. If you looked closely at that video you can see it's actually some AT weapon like an RPG-7 hitting the rear fuel tank which caused fuel to spill under the tank and eventually flow out from underneath the front making it look like it got hit in the front).
Same goes for the lancets "defeating" the turret armor. So far I've only seen them manage to damage the smoke screen launchers.
Most of the ukranian war footage of leo 2s has been coming from the russian side since russia wants to downplay the effectiveness of leopards for morale and propaganda reasons and ukraine doesn't want to accidentally give away their leopard units' position and violate OPSEC.
When it comes to the turkish leopards, those were crewed by turks so it's unsurprising that they couldn't leverage the leopards to their intended potential.
@@genericamerican. M60Ts were also crewed by the Turks and they fared much better in Syria. Besides all this bullshit surrounding the Turkish use of tanks is getting annoying. Turks have been fighting in Syria for the last decade, they have made countless operations against factions that had tonns of ATGM stocks, sure they lost a dozen or so tanks but all that pales in comparison to what has been going on in Ukraine/Israel/Karabakh etc. Russia lost thousands of tanks in less than 2 years, likewise Ukraine, twitter was a shitfest when Ukraine first deployed the Leopards, in the first week they had lost quite a few Leo2s. We saw Azerbaijanis lose tens of tanks to ATGMs, same with Armenians. Lately we have been seeing constant footage of Israeli tanks getting hit/destroyed by RPG-7 type weapons from up close, we have seen militants literally walking up to Israeli tanks and placing AT mines on them. But noone hardly talks about any of these, really shows you the power of directed media… My point is one, one shouldnt expect an unmodernised 80s tank to be able to resist 2000s ATGMs, that is the exact reason why Turks have been modernising their Leo2 stocks lately and two, in battle not everything goes according to plan as can be seen from Israeli tanks getting ambushed. I have always defended APS being installed on tanks, and I still do, if it were Israeli tanks in Syria they would have fared better owing to their active protection systems on the other hand, any other faction without APS whether it would be Germans, French etc. would have fared similar to Turks, they would have lost tanks.. This is my perspective to the overall situation, backed up by evidence and statistics. It feels as if there is a huge Leopard fanboy lynch community online, when Turks lost Leopards in Syria, they lynched the Turks, when Ukrainians lost Leopards, they lynched the Ukrainians, it’s quite annoying but thats beside the point.
When it comes to WT, most of the top tier vehicles already have loads of made up stuff. One shouldnt expect it to be realistic, hence instead of waiting for non-existant evidence Gaijin should focus on making the nations more balanced.
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i love how he just goes beast mode as soon as he got dm53
Dm53 out of an l55 is one hell of a drug
Imagine they add 120mm dm 63 . They have 760mm pen at 0° according to officials .
@@Nishantbehera-vf4re that’s dm73 63 only changed the charge type to be less likely to explode should it be pierced by a shell
The M1128 Wolfpack you died to was me😂 at 6.17mins
Merry christmas and thanks for all the banger content!
3:38 it’s the ghost of the basement man
RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!
Top tier is unplayable with this damage right now
This video is just playing back the reasons why I stopped playing top tier lol
A truly Hanz Machine.
For Christmas all I want Gaijin to do is fix the challenger 3 :(
Buddy gaijin has yet to correctly implement ANY tank period. After like rank 3 there is always something about a tank that isn’t implemented correctly and it only gets worse the more modern the tank is. You just have to accept that this game is basically just world of tanks with damage models in order to have a sliver of fun
Just go have fun bruv
as a brit main... how is it not correct? The transmission I guess but that won't change it much.
@@lonurad1259 The turret front armour has been replaced so it should be nigh invulnerable everywhere except the mantlet against both kinetic and chemical rounds, the weight should be 66 tons instead of 62.5 and the speed should be similar to something like the Leo 2A6
@@overlordminigun6346 the mantlet is broken on all of them so I don't get that. It's literally a solid block of steel and tungsten with a bit of rubber between. Idea was to give it the same protection roughly as the cheeks. They won't give it that though because for some reason they think it needs to have a weak mantlet to be balanced even though the mantlet weak point actually affects the cheek armour as well. At that about 50% of the front of the turret is unarmoured. That's every challenger 2 and upwards though not just the challenger 3.
Thank you gaijingles, and Santa snail.
0:00 and I'm proud every time I unlock a low tier lvl vehicle
Some people just grind till the grind is done
@J.G.Wentworth and then they add new vehicles to grind again.
It was so much more exciting to unlock vehicles in low tier since they are way more unique than top tier ones. After about 8.7-9.3 it gets repetitive imo.
Merry Christmas Eve I love you and your vids
Merry Thundermas
@@maxpopkov1432 good one
8:18 I'm in love with this meme
Gaijin took Russian Bias and threw it here
Russian bias are everywhere now
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How is the Leopard 2A7V not one-shotting tanks with its Rheinmetall 120 mm L/55 cannon and DM 53 rounds?
because gaijin thinks that russian tanks are the most invulnerable, survivable things on the planet even though weve had years of a certain conflict that proves otherwise
@@MrWorldwide00 nice. Youre that guy
@@MrWorldwide00 to be fair no T90M or T80BVM has been destroyed by any opposing force tank as far as i know, pretty much all were mobility, artillery, mine, ATGM & drone kills, in case of the T90M only about 60 were lost, wich is really impressive for being on the frontline for 2 years.
you can literally google 'T90M destroyed' and the first picture will be a turret popped t90m@@DerDrecksack87
@@DerDrecksack87"ONLY" 60??? Lmao commo man, russians immobilized/destroyed one Leopard 2 and the whole world goes "aLl LeOpArD kApUtT aNd TrAsH" bruh
And the t 90m only appeared later in the war not since the beginning. In terms of survivability and combat losses the Leopard 2 surely is the better one of the two.
Merry christmas everybody!!🎉
Germany leopard2a7v very good and better tank
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Any abrams that gets shot die in one shot everywhere but turret face. No spall or better hull armor dm33 has a chance to pen and always does. Russia t90m genraly takes two or more one if your lucky. Leopard 2a7v takes two shots or more as well but can die in one hit at weird angle. All strv after 121 take longer to kill. Itsva shame really even the vt b has more survivability than anrams and leclerc as well as challenger series. Italians suffer really bad now heavier ariete no war kit bad armor poor mobility. F15a is garbage. Along with a few other planes.
And you realise the 122B+ is better 😂
Strv 122b+ video when?
Tell you what, seeing the sabot casing go flying every shot is kinda annoying, not to mention distracting
Its also unrealistic
Why does this look like every other Malzi video ever?
this guy bought the tornado how sad
Merry christmas everyone🎉
stock apfsds at least
remember the time stock tanks only had heat?
Do the STRV 122B+
merry christmas everyone
Major Skill Issue
poor guy had to use d33
Leopard2 with 80mm armor?
I really want the leopard 2a7 cuh 😫😫😫😫😭😭😭😭😭😫
Happy new year из России
I don't want a lot for christmas
That is just one thing I need🎵🎶
good video man very cool
How many years did it take
i love ur content
Wie kann ich den schnell erspielen
Sometimes tanks take multiple projectiles from one shot. Can anyone explain? 3:07
Это части Подкалиберного снаряда, а точнее поддоны.
It is the outer shell of the apfsds round.
he dont aim...
Its the sabot (its modeled wrong)
This video makes me angry. The fact that the t90m can tank 3 shots is stupid. Most tanks have lol pen so they should be able to go straight through.
Yeah the t90 m is too overpowered he shot one three times didn’t even penetrate the inner armour, t90 shoots him once now his whole tank is destroyed
@@Okyesyes “no bias”
Most bullshit tank, sides armor eat up more sabots than any Russian tank.
Leopards are the most op broken tanks in the game. Its not Russia, its fucking Germany and Sweden. Unkillable from the the front unlike Russian tanks.
8:55 what the f?
Noice
russia in top tier is full skill issue
Putting bushes on any tank to hide weakspots -> not cool mate
U drunk?
Putting bushes on weak areas is like putting a red x on your weak spots everyone knows the trick
A lot of skill issue in video
Just like your face a skill issue?
Russian bias as usual
Skill issue
VT4A1.mp4 maybe? As a Chinese person, i just wanna say, the VT4A1 its a shit (in game). the whole techtree its full of shit. the Gaijin seems to thinking Chinese morden MBT as a T72 copy. its totally wrong, and they can nerf VT4 by information from Thailand Army VT4 manual, but when you ask them to buff it from manual,they just ask you to prove that manual its not the calssified😂