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Hantek Oscilloscope Hack - 5000P series - Open up to 200 MHZ
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- Опубликовано: 25 дек 2016
- The following covers my opening of the 5000P series of Hantek Oscilloscopes to 200MHZ using the Tinman Procedure in EEVBLOG as described here
www.eevblog.com...
along with the Dongle from Amazon for connectivity provided here
amzn.to/3TmyE7u
I have a 5102P and couldn't complete this. The dso5kp_backuptool.up is on my 128GB USB exFAT formatted stick and when I inserted it into the DSO it was recognized but when I went to Firmware Update and hit F5, I was getting a "No upgrade files detected on USB device" error. I then tried a 16GB FAT formatted stick and the process worked OK. You might want to note that.
noted.
The video is already from an older date, I have a new Hantek 5172P and when I make a FW backup, I save 8 files and not just 4. Pay attention to that! Probably the Hantek 5172P oscilloscope could not be restored from such a backup.
from what ive read the stock probes work fine at 200mhz
...If you arent looking for accuracy.
This procedure is used to recover a 100 Mhz DSO5102P oscilloscope using the original factory firmeware?
Esse procedimento serve para recuperar um osciloscópio DSO5102P de 100 Mhz usando o firmeware original de fabrica?
No of cause not? Why would you need a backup of a corrupted firmware on a USB stick min the first place?
Just did mine thanks!!!! It was a 100 MHz so I didn’t have to remove the capacitors.
That means you also have better equipped probes as well. I needed upgraded probes for the higher frequencies.
@All Things M3 on another channel you were stating that you did change capacitors because I asked you for the hack!?!?
Thanks so much for this.....great help!
Glad it was helpful!
Following these directions, got as far as booting my Hantek DSO5072P with Minicom running on the USB to Serial adapter. Boot sequence is as in the video, but it hangs up at the final line, and pressing Enter does not give me terminal access. Any suggestions?
Can i my hantek 6022be usb oscilloscope upgrade???
That model is not covered in this video
Friend can I upgrade on my Hantek DSO5102P oscilloscope = 100MHZ to 200MHZ ?.
What would be the procedures?
J. Carlos
The procedure will be same, I think.
Did you manage to do the 5102? The bw changer exe file didnt make a difference to mine.
i'm confused.. can you, or can't you change the boot logo of a dso5000P series scope? you first say it isn't possible.. then go on to show how you would do it.. saying something about rebooting the scope two times and a filename already being changed?
no
Jordan Rubin mmkay, thanks anyway
Are these RS-232 voltage levels or TTL voltage levels on that serial connection?
If you mean on the oscope its TTL
What are you hitting your keys with? it sound like a small hammer. Did you damage the keys?
Good of you to ask these most important and pressing questions. I always like to take time from my busy schedule to answer questions folks have regarding the hard work I put into my videos.
Indeed, I am in fact hitting my keys with a hammer through the course of this entire video. While I was hoping nobody would notice, you seem to be a very perceptive individual. In answering your question, it is difficult to say though if it is in fact a small hammer. This is highly subjective and comes down to personal opinion, though, I will state for you that personally, I would consider it a somewhat medium hammer as far as run of the mill keyboard smashing hammers go.
Different than normal hammers used for this task, this particular one started off as a low carbon steel sand casting allowing for a hollow recess to fill with a 90/10 lead to antimony mixture providing a greater overall size to mass ratio. The outside is then case hardened, so that it will not give, yet also not shatter due to stress. Quenching is an extremely important process here and can’t be overlooked! Overall, I find this design allows for the best and most satisfying keyboard destruction yet. Folks in the keyboard smashing club agree too.
With the understanding that the overall act does damage keys and in fact by design destroy the keyboard, This being a centennial video and in the hoped of bringing the spring rain, meant a special keyboard sacrifice to Odin would be offered. While known for being the god of many things is also the keeper of the runic alphabet. I bet you didn’t know that. And no, it was not a Runic keyboard, that would be contrary to the point.
I hope I have sufficiently answered all of your questions with regard to this video. Thanks much.
"Different than" is incorrect use of grammar, "Different from" would be better. Having said that I doubt if the hammer would mind and certainly nobody noticed so I guess you got away with it.
I'm watching you and will be there when you least expect it.
Logo? I plan to make a Mercedes Benz logo.. because my car is a Benzo and I would like the scope to be the same.
I am about to purchase a Hantek 200 mhz scope but saw your hack and would LOVE to save some money and buy a lower priced unit however, I also have read that the internal components(op-amps) of the lower Mhz scopes are not the same quality as the 200 Mhz scopes is there any truth to this claim??
In the several years of correspondence I've read on the matter I haven't heard of this issue, only the components that require removal as described.
i think it be nice if scopes had video hdmi or ? out put for big screens heck it may be doable hackable if so i do not know chime in if their is a way or con one usb it to pc and get it on screen that way ?
Hdmi would not do anything but be an interface if there was no video processing to drive the frame fates and resolution for a large displace and still retain clarity
Hello and thank you for this wonderful tutorial. I have a question. Is there a way to upgrade it without soldering stuff on the pcb and running old commands in a prompt? Also I'm not comfortable to kick of those small caps. You never know. And who the hell is able to solder them back? I'm 100% not me! I mean, something like copying a file on the usb memory and stick it in the front of it. I plan to buy a DSO5102P Hantek and upgrade it to 200Mhz. I can't find that interface in my country, and ordering from eBay is not the way. Is gonna cost me like I would buy directly the 200Mhz. Thanks.
Probably a little late, but no. You definetly need the UART adapter. They are realy common! I think you could even use an Arduino without the chip as UART adapter. And the capacitor also needs to go because it filters out the signal if it's above 70 meg. If you don't feel confortable by doing so DON'T DO THE MOD. If you really need to, get some scrap PCB's and practice how to remove SMD components with something inexpensive until you get the confidence needed. You really shouldn't need to put them back, but you can also practice resoldering on a scrap PCB
What is the Record Length of this Oscilloscope? 24K before hack? or both 70mhz & 200mhz models come with 40k ?
This is a great question! I will investigate this.
Both 70mhz and 200mhz are 40K. They are literally the same scope. The 70mhz has 2 capacitors to limit it to 80mhz... remove those and update firmware and you are set.
@@retrotechandelectronics It would be an interesting exercise to find out if the memory record size could be upgraded to 2M. That would be a killer upgrade.
Cool ! I decided to install Linux (mint) run minicom as su and no problem , but when I turn the scope on nothing happens :/
you log in, then the scope turns on?
Retro Tech & Electronics I got into minicom but when I turn the scope on nothing else happens
iR0niC Apple and did you configure the serial interface in minicom. Did you follow the serial connectivity instructions?
Retro Tech & Electronics yes ! Profile is set as yours :/ can I send you a video ? Maybe to your e mail or maybe +524445488103 thanks
iR0niC Apple were on RUclips . If you have a video..... post it
I have been out of action doing electronics for long time, last I done any work was 30 years ago using Analogue Scope , I just ordered DSO5070P Digital Scope and it's 70MHz , Can that be upgraded? ,if so can you please do a Video on idiot's guide on upgrading DSO5072P or a PDF file on how to do it?.
Did you click on the other video, for upgrading the hacked 500 series... its your idiots guide..
The last 2 Hantek scopes I have gotten ahold of came pre hacked to 200 MHz
Pre-hacked? or 200 MHZ models?
i purchased mine from amazon and it was also already opened up to 200mhz! win!
Hi! I just purchase the DSO 5102D 100 MHz, How do I do a safe shutdown from the power switch?
I dont understand, are you asking how to shut off the oscilloscope?>
@@retrotechandelectronics i thought the same thing , and got a laugh ..if that happens on my channel one day ill give a link to a Sasquatch video and say it can do it or something off the wall darn folks ask the dumbest stuff ]]be blessed
Hi,
I have bad feeling your "backup" is worthless. You backed up mtd0-mtd3 (according to EEVBlog forum) which used to be (in that time): Bootloader(mtd0), LOGO(mtd1), Kernel(mtd2) and ROOTFS(mtd3).
But in your case (and mine too), there are actually 8 MTD partitions: uboot(mtd0), params(mtd1), logo(mtd2), misc(mtd3), kernel(mtd4), rootfs(mtd5), kernel_bk(mtd6) and recover(mtd7).
Long story short: You succesfuly backed up "uboot" as "boot.bin"(cca 1MB), "params" as "logo.bin"(512kB), "logo" as "kernel.bin"(2MB) and "misc" as "root.bin" (512kB). Your backup lacks for real "kernel.bin"(4MB), real "root.bin"(70MB), "kernel_bk"(4MB) and "recover"(46MB).
Is it possible this has changed as of late?
@@retrotechandelectronics No idea.
Anyway, when your DSO boots, there is clearly visible your DSO is 8 MTDs version.
Those are the secondary partitions, which are there as a backup in case an update of the primary partition fails. The u-boot would have a counter, that counts up the failed boots and then would switch to the secondary partition to boot up normally.
@@turanamo I believe, that mtd6 & mtd7 are secondary/recover ("backup" if you with) partitions, of course. But if your backup (on PC) doesn't have any of mtd4 to mtd7, you have anything but backup.
My DSO 5202P its up to 400mhz.
how did that work out for you. you should read a schematic before removing parts
Has been working great for years. Thanks for the protip!
I do not want to increase the frequency from 100mhz to 200mhz, but recover my DSO5102P 2ch 100mhz and re-use it normally.
Não quero aumentar a frequência de 100mhz pra 200mhz, mas recuparer meu DSO5102P 2ch 100mhz e voltar a usar-lo normalmente.
What happened?
why not just solder permanent header to the board for future hacks and updates
Thats an option, but I needed it for my ESP32 for another project
Wouldn't it have been better to spend $100 more for a Siglent 200MHz scope with the proper probes while not risking destroying the other scope? The $210 for the Hantek plus $50 for a set of 200MHz probes doesn't doesn't make sense when you can spend $350 and it's all done for you. You saved about $90 this way?
The argument could be made a further 100 dollars beyond that model for another set of features, and so on and so on. Its about price-point.
@@retrotechandelectronics Yes, that's true. We have raised generations of buyers that believe price is the only buying criteria. No thought of cheap vs. inexpensive is given. A $50 pair of Rockport shoes is much more expensive than a $250 pair Johnson & Murphys, but they are definitely cheaper.
Just got my scope from Amazon and it is 200 Mhz
good, so you dont need anything from this video.
I just ordered mine from Amazon today. I will see if it is 200MHz when it arrives. If not, I will live with 70MHz until I have an application where I need 200MHz.
ThriftyAV the model number indicates if it is a factory 200mhz model
Did you order a DSO5072P and got a DSO5202P?
Thanks for this tutorial. However, I recently ordered a DSO5102P and I was unable to unlock it this way. This doesn't work on some new models (the changes roll back), apparently there's some extra data in the EEPROM that needs to be changed. I will eventually make a full video or website post about this and put a link in this comment, however here's a simple shortened tutorial:
Warning - only for information purposes/at your own risk, you risk damaging your scope - I got it stuck in a loop where it constantly tried to recover one of the partitions, rebooted and tried to rewrite the EEPROM when I made some wrong changes, so double check everything - it was a pain in the .... to get it working again! If the original method works, don't do it this way!)
1) connect UART like in the video, start up the oscilloscope
2) run the following commands:
killall dsod
mv dso1102b dso1202b
vi sys.ini (and edit just like in the video - change strings 1102b to 1202b, 5102P to 5202P, use keys to move, r to rewrite character, [Esc] :wq to write and quit, also modify logotype and logotype.dis)
3) attach a USB flash drive
4) copy the EEPROM file to the USB flash drive
cp /i2c.log /mnt/udisk/i2c.log
5) attach USB drive to computer and open the file (preferably in a hex editor, there's a lot of gibberish before and after the config itself that needs to be removed before further editing), then change [bw]100 to [bw]200. BACK UP THE FILE BEFORE!
the file should look like this: (I then edited it in xed and saved with UNIX/LINUX line ending and UTF-8, I think you can use another editors. For removing the gibberish, I used Bless HEX editor. DON'T CHANGE ANY OTHER LINES EXCEPT [bw]100)!!!
[--LOG0--]
[serial number](YOUR ORIGINAL SERIAL NUMBER)
[operation time](LEAVE THE ORIGINAL VALUE THERE)
[operator]hantek
[pcb]101
[lcd]3
[front]3
[usb]0
[touch]0
[net]0
[iso]0
[buf]1
[sd]0
[vei]0
[dds]0
[key]0
[bw]200
6) save file as i2c.org into the root directory of your USB flash disk and connect the USB drive back to the scope
7) run these commands:
cp /mnt/udisk/i2c.org /i2c.org
touch /i2c.format
sync
(Now remove your USB drive)
reboot
8) Let scope boot normally - it will show a "formatting EEPROM" window. After this entire process is finished, check the root directory and files again, if any changes rolled back, change the files again (except the i2c files, no need to mess around with a flash drive)
9) After the scope reboots (if it doesn't, reboot it yourself after the EEPROM update is finished) and starts up normally, detach UART converter, press the DEFAULT SETUP button, wait for 30 seconds, disconnect probes etc. from the front BNCs and power cycle the device
10) Run the auto-calibration routine (Utility -> Self calibration)
11) Close the menu and reboot the oscilloscope. (Check if the scope reports being a 5202 in the Utility menu. After I checked this, I also reflashed the newest firmware (for 5202P, in my case)).
12) Congrats, you now have a 200 MHz DSO. Mine now reports 1.65 ns rise time compared to 3.3 ns before when checked with an avalanche generator, BW is approx. 0.35/Tr, so approx. 212 MHz).
Again, this is WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY and AT YOUR OWN RISK. But I hope it helps at least somebody :).
Also re-posted this under a different video.
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
@@retrotechandelectronics Ok, here is the finished link. tefatronix.g6.cz/display.php?page=hantek&lang=en
The oscilloscope has been running well after the modifications for some time already.
@@tefatronix Whats your serial number or firmware number of your osciloscope? i'm planning on buying a hantek dso5102p with
:
firmware version SW: 3.40.0(180120.0)
Serial number: T1G/138021960
can you tell that this hack will work on this scope?
Impressed you could do it, but way too much for most folks.
Impressed I could do it, sets the bar a bit low for me. Strange... Also I would think folks who use oscilloscopes aren't most folks, and can copy a file to a usb drive.
Ola...Amigos esse video pode ser legendado para Portugues ai na legenda blz...abraços!
Sim, corrige que é uma característica.
Holy crap you're smart
Thanks Carl...
What kind of MacOS X is this? Never seen it..
Thats Ubuntu Linux
is this method still valid? (april 2019)
The method didn't work on my recently purchased (May 2019) DSO5102P, the file name change reverts after reboot. However following these instructions did work: tefatronix.g6.cz/display.php?page=hantek&lang=en
It was only necessary to update the EEPROM by editing the i2c.log file as described, no other edits were needed. The hack was tested using an RF signal generator at 125MHz.
5:18 don't worry mate, this electrostatic thing is pure bullshit. I'm 38 years old and worked with tons with fine equipment and I never used any form of prevention. In fact I remember clearly in a winter I had a nice wool pullover and I was at work and time to time I was discharging myself through the PCB's (by mistake of course). I was cursing all day long because I hate that sensation. Never had a problem. Never..
Wish I could have said the same working with Gaasfet's even taking precautions.....
An add-on to this video has been posted to answer the question of post hack upgrades of firmware. Link is at
ruclips.net/video/lalZhEBQVxM/видео.html
For oscilloscopes Hantek DSO5xxxP produced in the last 3-4 years, this procedure does not make sense for the fact that these oscilloscopes are manufactured in such a way that the younger models differ from the older ones at the hardware level, in particular, they differ by the operational amplifiers used. Do not be fooled!
so I cant hack it if I buy it now ?
+Aneesh Prasobhan, hacking their firmware has long been pointless. Only if you are a good electronic engineer you can possibly be able to replace the operational amplifiers and their harness (and maybe even something else) from the younger model DSO5202P/B/BM.
I'm currently messing with some audio circuits and for troubleshooting will the picoscope 2204a be good enough ? because that one is cheap af
Aneesh Prasobhan How much is it?
cheapest version is 110 dollars...without probes...but people say its a toy :(
be cool do do a custon boot logo iii am using linux now no training at all and no friends with a brain but like any thing it can be done lol i had fedora boating kde but it stop after ii deleted app i do say Linux has crap organization in app section so i assume i kills a important thing but noobs can not know by looking at a mess lol
I really didnt consider a custom boot logo a top priority for the unit.