I bought hantek dso5102p (similar to this scope) and I'm really happy about it ;) I think it's a great scope offered for this price and a lot of functionalities.
I have one as well and so far very happy with it. It is half the price of the Rigol, so I would think it wouldn't be as good in some ways, but for the money it really can't be beat. Good scope.
As he said it can be hacked up to 200mhz, so it is the best deal in scopes. I paid $210 US for mine and I doubt I could get a Rigol for that price, never mind Agilent, Keysight or Tektronics. They are all expensive.
Am I the only one that was screaming at the screen when Dave wasn't reading the red popup saying that the alternative trigger wasn't supported at that memory depth?
It seems almost as if Dave didn't want to like… so he didn't ;}. Anyway, thank you for convincing me to not to buy Rigol ;} - this “cheapo” will be quite enough for me and the amount of whining seals the deal ;}
As this review is over 5 years old it would be interesting to see an update from Dave for the Hantek DSO5120P. The only real issue I see for entry level users use (forget firmware lockups at time of video and personal favoured use patterns) is the overshoot and totally agree that we should trust our measuring devices, however those in the field will know when not to from experience, it's only our novices that may fall foul, oh and for aliasing too. This video and various comments left here have convinced me that the 5120P is actually a no brainer for hobbiests when comparing against the Rigol £100 cost difference. I guess it's all about cost vs use, if you're using a scope for business daily then go Rigol and splash the cash, but if you're a have a go DIY'er with sporadic usage....it's gotta make ROI sense!
Dave, when you selected alternate triggering everytime you got a BIG RED explanation in the screen(dunno how you missed it) that said "ALT NOT SUPPORTED ON LONG MEMORY MODE"
I re-watched the video and tested for holdoff crashing as Dave experienced. My scope is identical HW and SW version and for me the holdoff time simply rolls over. No crash. If you look at the XY mode portion of the vid you will notice the XY display was working correctly. Dave had not connected a channel 2 signal. you can see the magenta horizontal line on the X axis of the graph. I think it is fair to say people should not read too much into Dave's conclusion. If he had RTFM things might change
Got this sucker for 180usd new! 200mhz "hack" comes predone from factory nowadays. Not a bad deal, even in 2020. Can't at all relate to the problems Dave had, theres a context sensitive manual on the device itself (help button), even if the wording is sometimes a little bit chenglishy, it still helps a ton.
I've got this scope for Basic repairs/refurbs etc and very happy. Never crashed and for the price I would recommend it. Not for Pros of course but for your hobbyist etc great value. It's small, light and silent and great for carrying around.
Dave, with all due respect, I think you should at least read the manual if you intend to do any kind of review of an instrument, I even if it is intended as a light weight review. Watching you bumble around with the features is not informative, unlike 99% of your vids which most definitely are! Every instrument at least deserves the operator to know how to use it and get the most out of it even if it is a low cost unit. Remember we can't all afford the perfect stuff.
"Remember we can't all afford the perfect stuff", i think this is something he keeps forgetting even in his newer videos too. Look i totally get that really expensive tools show their value when they are in use (i am talking about features, accuracy, etc...), especially when it comes to measurement tools. I just think Dave keeps forgetting that there is definitely a "bang for buck" model that needs to be very important when it comes down to buying anything, especially when it comes to people that don't have that luxury of spending hundreds or even thousands of dollars on tools. And even in the more current videos he seems to think everyone is willing to spend hundreds and thousands of dollars for things that are not really applicable to everyone, especially hobbyist (which is what i am). I don't mind my scoop being slightly middle to low rang if it is cheaper (i dont really build things to complicated).
No. Watch the video again. The scope had bad pulse response, bad trigger, it locked up, and it was slow. 4 bad things that I saw and documented on video. The scope I had clearly sucked, so my conclusion based on those facts was spot on.
Err, it's a 50ohm source and cable terminated properly in 50ohms, there is no "probe compensation" here. To be fair I did the lengthy internal calibration but got the same result. The Agilent is 500MHz bandwidth, 2.5X the best of the others, so you expect to see greater signal fidelity or a small 50ohm termination mismatch issue on it.
I think first impressions of a bit of general purpose test equipment are important. If and experienced person can't pick it up and use it intuitively as they expect, then it's not well designed.
Dave, without wishing to be a smart arse but given the Agilent also showed some overshoot as well I am thinking probe compensation may be needing ajustment. I can appreciate the logic of doing these reviews blind without reading the manual but I think it is a little unfair to expect every unit to operate exactly as you expect. It may be a cheap scope but it certainly is not junk. 200 odd pages in the forum would tend to suggest there are others who do not think it is junk either
This is an old video, but now this scope is $256.00 US and being that I don't have very much money. I think this is a nice unit and I may spring for one.
I got the poor pulse response because the unit I had sucks. There are other reports of similar signal integrity issues. There are known hardware issues with this scope. Go read the forum thread. You got lucky.
I see you are holding the top of the scope with your fingers when pressing buttons on the scope. The Owon that you continue to pour scorn on did not get this leeway. Yes the Owon buttons are a bit stiff but holding the scope is a natural hand position so the criticism is way over the top.
I have a Hantek, I am quite pleased with it so far, but I'm no expert. Anyway, Hantek is making scopes for other companies to rebrand, so it is logical to assume them keeping the good ones and selling the sub-standard parts to others. I think one should review Hantek equipment in order to make a correct opinion. Tek were buying CRT's from their competitor at their beginnings and "they knew they received bad CRT's".
I bet refresh rate fps adjustments are good for people that see the flicker of lights. You can change so the display doesn't beat with your lighting. Just a guess.
the hantek one (which is the one i have) actually fixes all of the issues he is having. But please let me know if anyone has BODE Assistant working on it because it does not allow me to use it, also its the only thing that's not working on the scope.
I wanted to buy this dso 2 years ago, but I bought Owon SDS7102 and I am glad I did. This Tekway is a lot faster, but only in 4k mode. Everything else: clunk-clunk, freeze, signal fidelity compromise, weird 2-4-8 ratios... SDS7102 to my eye looks faster in 10 Mpoint mode than Tekway in 40k mode.
Hi. I'm buying my first oscilloscope. And I'm between two options. 1. - buy a second hand analog for cca 100€ (I can't find them any cheaper because of shipping, ...) 2. - buy one of these of ebay for cca 250€ (the Hentek version) Help! tnx for response!
Everyone who wants to observe more than two signals or who wants to have two differential inputs needs four channels. Don't forget all probes have ground wires connected together (they are not isolated), in many times you cannot just connect probes in arbitrary places of the board.
Alexandre Kandalintsev This is not an answer to my question. What if they need to observe 8 channels then? Or 32? This is a review of a cheap chinese instrument, I'll remind. And person you answered to noted their budget. You advised to buy something more than twice the budget without giving any reason except "bang for the buck"
NGC1433 Hantek is not twice cheaper, it's 250 vs 330 euro. Concerning the channels, I already told you. I agree with Dave, four channels are quite useful. You may have different opinion, but it's silly to convince others how many channels they need. I often need three channels, for example, don't tell me that "two channels is enough". Anyway, I'm just giving my advice (as you do), do not claim that your advice is better than mine. I provided my argumentation, please do not argue just to argue.
Thanks for your response Dave, I dont know whats the problem, probably the browser but I have tried for a week and not Chrome, Firefox or IE8 let me access. I guess its a problem with the DNS. Damn I love your forum!
When a feature is missing or does not work as you want/expect it would be great if you could show a real world example of the problem it would cause in practice. A feature may be missing, but it might not affect many potential users of the scope. Does the hacked version solve any of your problems with the scope I wonder ?
I was thinking the same thing. I have a Siglent here, its a bit laggy, but no lockups. Doesn't seem as jittery either. BUT, can't seem to get the PC connection working, and it has other niggles.
With my Hantek DSO5102B, the most recent firmware (I know of) improved this jumping around of the signal thing. I don't remember ever seeing my scope lock up. It certainly has some quirks, but I wouldn't place it on the same level as the pretty horrible Owon thing...
wenn ich doch verstehen würde was Sie sagen. Mich würde interessieren, ist es ein gutes Gerät für den Anfänger? Oder eher Schrott und die Finger davon lassen?
The Darkside Die Frage kommt zuruck- was fuer ein Budget haben Sie? Fur $360, werde ich gern den DSO5062 kaufen- damit kommt ein sehr nutzliches Gerat. Viel besser als mein 'analogue' scope. Fur ungefaehr $800 konnen Sie naturlich besser-als-billig bekommen.
+The Darkside Zwar nen Monat zu spät, aber egal: Ich bin auch Anfänger und habe mir das Hantek DSO5102P bestellt (ist "fast" baugelich mit dem hier vorgestellten Tekway DST1102B mit dem Unterschied das das Hantek 100mhz Bandbreite hat). Ich denke das 260€ für ein 100Mhz Scope wirklich nicht zu viel sind. Und wenn es sich hier und da mal aufhängt ist es halt so. Ich will damit kein Geld verdienen :D Ich werde es nicht im Professionellen Einsatz nutzen, ich will nur lernen. Daher denke ich das so ein Billigscope genau das richtige für uns ist ;) Apropos: Tekway/Hantek der Serien DST1xxx(b) und DSO5xxxP/B usw lassen sich ohne großen aufwand "hacken" d.h.: Das man aus einem Gerät das eigentlich nur 60Mhz unterstützt einfach via umbenennen der Firmwaredateien ein 200Mhz Scope bekommen kann ;) Wenn ich mir jetzt ein Tektronix oder Agilent für weit über 1000€ kaufe und es dann kaputt mache ärgere ich mich zu tode!!
+Herbst Leyd Hallo, kein Problem das eine Antwort 1 Monat später gekommen ist. Ich gebe Ihnen absolut recht, für 260€ kann mal wohl nichts falsch machen. Wo haben Sie Ihr Gerät gekauft? Da mein Englisch leider ungenügend ist, würde mir ein Kauf aus dem Ausland und die Garantie abwicklungen sehr schwer fallen. Und wie ich das gelesen habe, kann man bei dem Hantek DSO5102P die Sprache nicht in die deutsche umstellen? Ein hacken würde mich nicht wirklich interessieren, da ich mit so einem Gerät und die dort angezeigten Werte eh nicht deuten kann. Das Gerät würde nur zu üben herhalten müssen. Das hier getestet Gerät, wird diese vom Tester empfohlen oder eher nicht? Es gibt ja noch Geräte von Rigol, da würde mich aber der laute Lüfter sehr stören und diese sind teurer.
I have an Hantek DSO5102P, it’s 2021 and they just released a new firmware in february. Amazing they still do this after 10+ years in production. At the same time they released a new model that is allmost a carbon copy of the old one but with a black case and with better specs for less than 200€ : The DSO2000 series.
Because it is a complex device it's needed to have a good first impression. And yes, those Chinese companies make kinda decent hardware, but they often mess up the software.
Dave has covered this topic over and over -- the USB scopes are toys. If you want a toy, then buy one. If you want a tool, then buy a bench scope. Simple as that.
I trust your opinion implicitly. I think it's the Australian accent and breath of knowledge. I have a half decent background in electrical/electronics robotics+automation. I like Arduino and hate it too for it's simplicity. ANYHOW almost went for a cheap Hantek. Trouble finding a reasonably priced used digital scope may have to dish out the coin for a reliable machine. Good to know what NOT to get.
It got a thumbs down because it let itself down. It is a pity - there's a lot to like otherwise. Personally I'm really grateful for this video; I have my own criteria, but if I end up buying one of these it'll be with my eyes open and expectations set appropriately. Really helpful - thanks Dave!
Have you considered maybe connecting the video out on the camera to a separate screen so that you can see more detail in videos? I could imagine it'd be helpful for seeing a bit more detail. You certainly have enough of them ;) peace
Hantek/Tekway is saving money, they using combination of components giving that bad response on hacked DSOs (and i assume your is hacked, that overshoot is too high for 100MHz model and S/N on mainboard didn't match on enclosure, so who knows what really inside. There is however easy solution, check eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg212054/#msg212054
In this case I was bang on with a few things wrong with this. The pulse response sucked. The trigger sucked. The lockups sucked. The slowness sucked. Yes, I got a couple of small things wrong because I didn't RTFM, but that in no way takes away from the bad things about this scope and the reason why I was not impressed and gave it thumbs down.
the top of the case is almost empty, I wonder why the fuck they didn't fit a place for batteries. this would be a great portable device. what the hell!
Just bought an DSO-5102BM, it lags @ 1M, 2M, @512 little laggy. but you use those mainly on the single shot anyway. i chose this instead of the 60Mhz 5062B 1MB or 5062BM 2MB due to the additional parts that need to be changed to make it up to a 325MHz front end, I can live with 225 or 250Mhz front end. if i want the 300+Mhz i will change the parts at that time, maybe i'll put in the ethernet that is in the works, actually done already. screen still boots 5102BM, need uart hack to change boot
oh, i forgot, from 4ns max, now it is 2ns, currently re running self calibration... very nice... thanks dave... oh, beware of Applent AT826 from manufacturer or distributor, just got one and it don't work, my 10-20 dollar one is more accurate. they give you a hard time and will not replace it, it cannot read anything at all, sent them over a gig of vid and pictures and they say it functions as normal... can't read even a precision 1ohm resistor right, stay away from Applent...
it does not matter if X or Y or Z is working on other people DSOs, the first imression is based on what unit Dave got and what he saw while working on it first time. It does not mater if there are "aftersale solutions", this will not change anything on first impression.
For the limited range of functionality I use for my hobby stuff, the usability of the Hantek feels somewhat better than those 1600 EUR or so Tektronix 4 channel color screen things, I'm not sure if I'd personally gain anything from buying the Tek. Maybe especially because its writing to flash is horribly slow and I make screenshots all the time :D
I can't help thinking "cargo cult design" when I see this product. If they just make their product look vaguely reminiscent of their competitor's, vast fortunes will rain upon them!
Perhaps, I could be wrong, but I think Chinese people are not good at design, they are good at making cheaper, working harder and longer hours, but not when it comes to design. My suggestion for Chinese companies is to hire, people from USA, Europe and Japan for their design team. Because Chinese guys cannot design, sorry.
I have to agree with the user that noted that this unit has been hacked. and totally all your work is nonsense. how can you put a review on something that has been modified? i do believe that final signal distortion is due to tampering.
at 19:38: "I do not want to have to read the manual!"
Or, apparently, the big red messages that keep appearing on the screen...
I bought hantek dso5102p (similar to this scope) and I'm really happy about it ;)
I think it's a great scope offered for this price and a lot of functionalities.
I'm going to buy that too... :)
I have one as well and so far very happy with it. It is half the price of the Rigol, so I would think it wouldn't be as good in some ways, but for the money it really can't be beat. Good scope.
Me too. The dso5102p is great scope. I do mostly audio projects, so if it overshoots at 100Mhz, I absolutely do not care.
As he said it can be hacked up to 200mhz, so it is the best deal in scopes. I paid $210 US for mine and I doubt I could get a Rigol for that price, never mind Agilent, Keysight or Tektronics. They are all expensive.
Additionally DSO5102 costs about $150-200 USD.
Am I the only one that was screaming at the screen when Dave wasn't reading the red popup saying that the alternative trigger wasn't supported at that memory depth?
It seems almost as if Dave didn't want to like… so he didn't ;}. Anyway, thank you for convincing me to not to buy Rigol ;} - this “cheapo” will be quite enough for me and the amount of whining seals the deal ;}
As this review is over 5 years old it would be interesting to see an update from Dave for the Hantek DSO5120P. The only real issue I see for entry level users use (forget firmware lockups at time of video and personal favoured use patterns) is the overshoot and totally agree that we should trust our measuring devices, however those in the field will know when not to from experience, it's only our novices that may fall foul, oh and for aliasing too. This video and various comments left here have convinced me that the 5120P is actually a no brainer for hobbiests when comparing against the Rigol £100 cost difference. I guess it's all about cost vs use, if you're using a scope for business daily then go Rigol and splash the cash, but if you're a have a go DIY'er with sporadic usage....it's gotta make ROI sense!
Dave,
when you selected alternate triggering everytime you got a BIG RED explanation in the screen(dunno how you missed it) that said "ALT NOT SUPPORTED ON LONG MEMORY MODE"
Damn it Dave! It's 2am here in germany.
I own a DSO5102B thus I can't go to bed now...
I re-watched the video and tested for holdoff crashing as Dave experienced. My scope is identical HW and SW version and for me the holdoff time simply rolls over. No crash.
If you look at the XY mode portion of the vid you will notice the XY display was working correctly. Dave had not connected a channel 2 signal. you can see the magenta horizontal line on the X axis of the graph.
I think it is fair to say people should not read too much into Dave's conclusion. If he had RTFM things might change
When he says 'Oh, it'll eventually catch it' @ 30:53 it had already shown 4 runts at 40K!
Got this sucker for 180usd new! 200mhz "hack" comes predone from factory nowadays. Not a bad deal, even in 2020. Can't at all relate to the problems Dave had, theres a context sensitive manual on the device itself (help button), even if the wording is sometimes a little bit chenglishy, it still helps a ton.
I've got this scope for Basic repairs/refurbs etc and very happy. Never crashed and for the price I would recommend it. Not for Pros of course but for your hobbyist etc great value. It's small, light and silent and great for carrying around.
Dave, with all due respect, I think you should at least read the manual if you intend to do any kind of review of an instrument, I even if it is intended as a light weight review. Watching you bumble around with the features is not informative, unlike 99% of your vids which most definitely are! Every instrument at least deserves the operator to know how to use it and get the most out of it even if it is a low cost unit. Remember we can't all afford the perfect stuff.
"Remember we can't all afford the perfect stuff", i think this is something he keeps forgetting even in his newer videos too. Look i totally get that really expensive tools show their value when they are in use (i am talking about features, accuracy, etc...), especially when it comes to measurement tools. I just think Dave keeps forgetting that there is definitely a "bang for buck" model that needs to be very important when it comes down to buying anything, especially when it comes to people that don't have that luxury of spending hundreds or even thousands of dollars on tools. And even in the more current videos he seems to think everyone is willing to spend hundreds and thousands of dollars for things that are not really applicable to everyone, especially hobbyist (which is what i am). I don't mind my scoop being slightly middle to low rang if it is cheaper (i dont really build things to complicated).
Sorry, I watch the camera screen when I'm doing this, it's easy to miss stuff.
No. Watch the video again. The scope had bad pulse response, bad trigger, it locked up, and it was slow. 4 bad things that I saw and documented on video. The scope I had clearly sucked, so my conclusion based on those facts was spot on.
I'm not going to complain, just picked one up for a 100 bucks.
Err, it's a 50ohm source and cable terminated properly in 50ohms, there is no "probe compensation" here. To be fair I did the lengthy internal calibration but got the same result. The Agilent is 500MHz bandwidth, 2.5X the best of the others, so you expect to see greater signal fidelity or a small 50ohm termination mismatch issue on it.
I think first impressions of a bit of general purpose test equipment are important. If and experienced person can't pick it up and use it intuitively as they expect, then it's not well designed.
Dave, your full of SHIT!
Dave, without wishing to be a smart arse but given the Agilent also showed some overshoot as well I am thinking probe compensation may be needing ajustment.
I can appreciate the logic of doing these reviews blind without reading the manual but I think it is a little unfair to expect every unit to operate exactly as you expect.
It may be a cheap scope but it certainly is not junk. 200 odd pages in the forum would tend to suggest there are others who do not think it is junk either
Good point, just plain didn't think of that. Would have been interesting to compare the two channels
I love these reviews. Dave is brutally honest, but fair so when he's impressed, you know the scope is awesome.
just by watching these videos i know more about osciloscopes than my friends who study engineering... Thanks Dave!
This is an old video, but now this scope is $256.00 US and being that I don't have very much money. I think this is a nice unit and I may spring for one.
I got the poor pulse response because the unit I had sucks. There are other reports of similar signal integrity issues. There are known hardware issues with this scope. Go read the forum thread. You got lucky.
Thanks for helping people to decide which scope to get
Oscilloscopes have come real far in the past years in the budget market
I see you are holding the top of the scope with your fingers when pressing buttons on the scope. The Owon that you continue to pour scorn on did not get this leeway. Yes the Owon buttons are a bit stiff but holding the scope is a natural hand position so the criticism is way over the top.
Works for me, no other reports of being down.
I have a Hantek, I am quite pleased with it so far, but I'm no expert. Anyway, Hantek is making scopes for other companies to rebrand, so it is logical to assume them keeping the good ones and selling the sub-standard parts to others. I think one should review Hantek equipment in order to make a correct opinion. Tek were buying CRT's from their competitor at their beginnings and "they knew they received bad CRT's".
Nice try Dave, but I still do not buy Rigol))
I bet refresh rate fps adjustments are good for people that see the flicker of lights. You can change so the display doesn't beat with your lighting. Just a guess.
the hantek one (which is the one i have) actually fixes all of the issues he is having. But please let me know if anyone has BODE Assistant working on it because it does not allow me to use it, also its the only thing that's not working on the scope.
Awesome videos, extremely enjoyable to watch even though I dont understand anything. Keep it up man!
Every time I see these types of videos I remember how close I am to buying a DS2000 series scope.
Look Dave, I can't spend double, because I barely have single, so I can choose glitchy but working scope or no scope.
There's a bright red message at the bottom of the screen telling you why you can't enter alternate trigger mode.
How many oscilloscopes do you own?
I wanted to buy this dso 2 years ago, but I bought Owon SDS7102 and I am glad I did. This Tekway is a lot faster, but only in 4k mode. Everything else: clunk-clunk, freeze, signal fidelity compromise, weird 2-4-8 ratios... SDS7102 to my eye looks faster in 10 Mpoint mode than Tekway in 40k mode.
I want my 40min back and that eccsent sounds like fork in a plate, jfc. its a grate scope now
Hi. I'm buying my first oscilloscope. And I'm between two options.
1. - buy a second hand analog for cca 100€ (I can't find them any cheaper because of shipping, ...)
2. - buy one of these of ebay for cca 250€ (the Hentek version)
Help! tnx for response!
Buy 1054z. See reviews on youtube. It's beyond your budget, but gives much more bang for buck.
What bang? I can not imagine how will it ROI that money. Who needs 4 channels?
Everyone who wants to observe more than two signals or who wants to have two differential inputs needs four channels. Don't forget all probes have ground wires connected together (they are not isolated), in many times you cannot just connect probes in arbitrary places of the board.
Alexandre Kandalintsev
This is not an answer to my question. What if they need to observe 8 channels then? Or 32? This is a review of a cheap chinese instrument, I'll remind. And person you answered to noted their budget. You advised to buy something more than twice the budget without giving any reason except "bang for the buck"
NGC1433
Hantek is not twice cheaper, it's 250 vs 330 euro. Concerning the channels, I already told you. I agree with Dave, four channels are quite useful. You may have different opinion, but it's silly to convince others how many channels they need. I often need three channels, for example, don't tell me that "two channels is enough".
Anyway, I'm just giving my advice (as you do), do not claim that your advice is better than mine. I provided my argumentation, please do not argue just to argue.
Checking voltages helped me make a quick repair of an LED DJ light.
24:12 I thought I was just dumb LOL
Thanks for your response Dave, I dont know whats the problem, probably the browser but I have tried for a week and not Chrome, Firefox or IE8 let me access. I guess its a problem with the DNS. Damn I love your forum!
Anyone here knows if Daves webpage eevblog.com is running? I cant access since yesterday. I think its my browser but I cannot be sure. Thanks!
Is the bump at 33:50 a reflection on the line?
Are these pulses at 34:40 reflections?
Did that demo board come out of the LeCroy scope you had earlier?
the alt trigger mode does not work in higher memory depths
When a feature is missing or does not work as you want/expect it would be great if you could show a real world example of the problem it would cause in practice. A feature may be missing, but it might not affect many potential users of the scope.
Does the hacked version solve any of your problems with the scope I wonder ?
2:05
DO NOT REMOVE THE COVE UNLESS
Your name is Dave Jones !
I was thinking the same thing. I have a Siglent here, its a bit laggy, but no lockups. Doesn't seem as jittery either. BUT, can't seem to get the PC connection working, and it has other niggles.
With my Hantek DSO5102B, the most recent firmware (I know of) improved this jumping around of the signal thing.
I don't remember ever seeing my scope lock up.
It certainly has some quirks, but I wouldn't place it on the same level as the pretty horrible Owon thing...
Sorry Dave, but you really do need to RTFM or at least the messages on the screen.
wenn ich doch verstehen würde was Sie sagen. Mich würde interessieren, ist es ein gutes Gerät für den Anfänger?
Oder eher Schrott und die Finger davon lassen?
The Darkside Die Frage kommt zuruck- was fuer ein Budget haben Sie? Fur $360, werde ich gern den DSO5062 kaufen- damit kommt ein sehr nutzliches Gerat. Viel besser als mein 'analogue' scope. Fur ungefaehr $800 konnen Sie naturlich besser-als-billig bekommen.
+The Darkside Zwar nen Monat zu spät, aber egal: Ich bin auch Anfänger und habe mir das Hantek DSO5102P bestellt (ist "fast" baugelich mit dem hier vorgestellten Tekway DST1102B mit dem Unterschied das das Hantek 100mhz Bandbreite hat). Ich denke das 260€ für ein 100Mhz Scope wirklich nicht zu viel sind. Und wenn es sich hier und da mal aufhängt ist es halt so. Ich will damit kein Geld verdienen :D Ich werde es nicht im Professionellen Einsatz nutzen, ich will nur lernen. Daher denke ich das so ein Billigscope genau das richtige für uns ist ;)
Apropos: Tekway/Hantek der Serien DST1xxx(b) und DSO5xxxP/B usw lassen sich ohne großen aufwand "hacken" d.h.: Das man aus einem Gerät das eigentlich nur 60Mhz unterstützt einfach via umbenennen der Firmwaredateien ein 200Mhz Scope bekommen kann ;)
Wenn ich mir jetzt ein Tektronix oder Agilent für weit über 1000€ kaufe und es dann kaputt mache ärgere ich mich zu tode!!
+Herbst Leyd
Hallo, kein Problem das eine Antwort 1 Monat später gekommen ist.
Ich gebe Ihnen absolut recht, für 260€ kann mal wohl nichts falsch machen. Wo haben Sie Ihr Gerät gekauft?
Da mein Englisch leider ungenügend ist, würde mir ein Kauf aus dem Ausland und die Garantie abwicklungen sehr schwer fallen.
Und wie ich das gelesen habe, kann man bei dem Hantek DSO5102P die Sprache nicht in die deutsche umstellen?
Ein hacken würde mich nicht wirklich interessieren, da ich mit so einem Gerät und die dort angezeigten Werte eh nicht deuten kann. Das Gerät würde nur zu üben herhalten müssen.
Das hier getestet Gerät, wird diese vom Tester empfohlen oder eher nicht? Es gibt ja noch Geräte von Rigol, da würde mich aber der laute Lüfter sehr stören und diese sind teurer.
Don'd be ridiculous. Rigol don't pay me to say anything, no one does. I reviewed it as-supplied out of the box from the supplier.
I have an Hantek DSO5102P, it’s 2021 and they just released a new firmware in february. Amazing they still do this after 10+ years in production. At the same time they released a new model that is allmost a carbon copy of the old one but with a black case and with better specs for less than 200€ : The DSO2000 series.
Because it is a complex device it's needed to have a good first impression. And yes, those Chinese companies make kinda decent hardware, but they often mess up the software.
You're looking well today...
Oh god, that trigger knob and button misalignment... It is driving my inner OCD mad!
Man you really like bashing Owon. I actually like my Owon. I guess I will need to get one of these or a Rigol to see what I am missing.
Typical Aussie review, if an Aussie didn't make it, its shit. Got no respect for your reviews.
uahahahah how the fu.. did you manage to have that name? brilliant dude!!!
ElectronicMarine Chuck Norris doesn't 'have' a name, he just 'is' Chuck Norris.
Dave can you review the Lecroy Wavesurfer range of oscilloscopes??
We like it alot
Yep same goes for games UI too, and other UI, mechanical or electronic. If its convoluted it ruins it for easy quick use.
how strange. you think they would have done some more testing before release! you found those bugs in mere minutes!
Dave has covered this topic over and over -- the USB scopes are toys. If you want a toy, then buy one. If you want a tool, then buy a bench scope. Simple as that.
but here in India where people are poor af, these are a god send. Even the cheapest scopes cost double the price here
Sure, but even then it still sucks pretty badly.
alternate mode not supported at this memory depth
I trust your opinion implicitly. I think it's the Australian accent and breath of knowledge. I have a half decent background in electrical/electronics robotics+automation. I like Arduino and hate it too for it's simplicity. ANYHOW almost went for a cheap Hantek. Trouble finding a reasonably priced used digital scope may have to dish out the coin for a reliable machine. Good to know what NOT to get.
It got a thumbs down because it let itself down. It is a pity - there's a lot to like otherwise. Personally I'm really grateful for this video; I have my own criteria, but if I end up buying one of these it'll be with my eyes open and expectations set appropriately. Really helpful - thanks Dave!
You are not the only one, Dave has a little firmware bug himself today... Great vid as always though.
Insult my mother or my religion but don't insult my oscilloscope. (smile)
I didn't know they do oscilloscopes takeaway...
Have you considered maybe connecting the video out on the camera to a separate screen so that you can see more detail in videos? I could imagine it'd be helpful for seeing a bit more detail. You certainly have enough of them ;)
peace
Hantek/Tekway is saving money, they using combination of components giving that bad response on hacked DSOs (and i assume your is hacked, that overshoot is too high for 100MHz model and S/N on mainboard didn't match on enclosure, so who knows what really inside.
There is however easy solution, check eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg212054/#msg212054
In this case I was bang on with a few things wrong with this. The pulse response sucked. The trigger sucked. The lockups sucked. The slowness sucked.
Yes, I got a couple of small things wrong because I didn't RTFM, but that in no way takes away from the bad things about this scope and the reason why I was not impressed and gave it thumbs down.
Can't you send me one of those? I want one to find clipping on audio amps. :)
the top of the case is almost empty, I wonder why the fuck they didn't fit a place for batteries. this would be a great portable device. what the hell!
Just bought an DSO-5102BM, it lags @ 1M, 2M, @512 little laggy.
but you use those mainly on the single shot anyway.
i chose this instead of the 60Mhz 5062B 1MB or 5062BM 2MB due to the additional parts that need to be changed to make it up to a 325MHz front end, I can live with 225 or 250Mhz front end. if i want the 300+Mhz i will change the parts at that time, maybe i'll put in the ethernet that is in the works, actually done already.
screen still boots 5102BM, need uart hack to change boot
oh, i forgot, from 4ns max, now it is 2ns, currently re running self calibration...
very nice...
thanks dave...
oh, beware of Applent AT826 from manufacturer or distributor, just got one and it don't work, my 10-20 dollar one is more accurate. they give you a hard time and will not replace it, it cannot read anything at all, sent them over a gig of vid and pictures and they say it functions as normal... can't read even a precision 1ohm resistor right, stay away from Applent...
Dave, you are a funny bloke! :)
it does not matter if X or Y or Z is working on other people DSOs, the first imression is based on what unit Dave got and what he saw while working on it first time. It does not mater if there are "aftersale solutions", this will not change anything on first impression.
works for me
Yeah, I also want to have like a 10k$ to spend on a scope, but guess what
almost all hantek scopes are for under 15 year old
Now get a Siglent and have a cheapscope shootout
For the limited range of functionality I use for my hobby stuff, the usability of the Hantek feels somewhat better than those 1600 EUR or so Tektronix 4 channel color screen things, I'm not sure if I'd personally gain anything from buying the Tek. Maybe especially because its writing to flash is horribly slow and I make screenshots all the time :D
new motto thow shall check voltages and read manuals lol
I can't help thinking "cargo cult design" when I see this product. If they just make their product look vaguely reminiscent of their competitor's, vast fortunes will rain upon them!
35:51 Really do you have infinite persistent on? I see 8s, not infinite. EHEH
Stop it with this bullshit. Rigol don't pay me to say anything.
Bode Assiant!
Good for the dumpster . . .
Afaik its happening for some time now. Also I disagree.
Perhaps, I could be wrong, but I think Chinese people are not good at design, they are good at making cheaper, working harder and longer hours, but not when it comes to design. My suggestion for Chinese companies is to hire, people from USA, Europe and Japan for their design team. Because Chinese guys cannot design, sorry.
There are so many bad products on the market... And all they give negative impressions even without Rigol payments ;)
Watch the 2013 Special Edition on Dave Jones /watch?v=l18nTtT_Ukk
I have to agree with the user that noted that this unit has been hacked. and totally all your work is nonsense. how can you put a review on something that has been modified? i do believe that final signal distortion is due to tampering.
Please stop making reviews,
First Comment? :D