Only 9 members of the High Seas Fleet died and 16 were wounded as a result of the scuttling of 52 of the 74 vessels which were interned, all of them were shot by Royal Navy boarding parties attempting to intervene to prevent the ships from being scuttled in breach of the terms of their internment. At the time of the scuttling, the ships only had skeleton crews remaining, consisting of their most loyal and thereby reliable members, after the majority of the crews including many who had openly behaved mutinously for months previously including by creating communist cadres or 'Soviets' were repatriated in the months prior to the scuttling.
Brilliantly presented. As a novice, the terminology used is clear, precise and totally fascinating. Photogrammetry will be phenomenal when you explore the full potential. Can wait. Scapa was a place visited by my family a child and 53 still intrigues me. Well done you guys.
Fascinating discussion, esp the "cloud" approach along with grafting photo imagery onto the cloud data. Astonishing work that opens up the ocean depths to view.
Dived here many years ago, fantastic week weather wise, stopped at the Stromness hotel and there was a folk festival on, great boat skipper Jock Cordock (hope i spelt his name right it was well over 30 years ago) never forgot it.
Wonderful presentation , it is of great interests of what technology can bring us and one wonders what future improvements will show us in even more detail , this certainly keeps the story alive and generates interest in Orkney history.
Very interesting! An enormous help to boat captains of dive charters, and divers themselves. Far better than the sketches I've seen before. Even 20 years ago, parts of the wrecks were slowly collapsing. Scapa Flow is thought to be in the top 10 of dive sites worldwide, and is quite popular, often booked up a year ahead or more. Athough some of the main wrecks are moderately deep, they are blessed with quite good visibility, water conditions and few currents in the central huge natural harbour area. Additionally there are many other dive sites with interesting stuff to see, such as shallower ship wrecking areas, fishing vessels and blockships. Orkney itself is full of interesting historical stuff to see for the non-diving days, and makes for a pleasant place to stay.
@@margaretsmallallan28 up to about 150 feet, but if you're limited to 100 feet there's still a lot to see. The German wrecks were all deliberately sunk, so no sailors were on board. The British wrecks Vanguard (1917) and Royal Oak (1939) are designated war graves and diving is not generally permitted.
Absolutely fascinating presentation and sharing of information. Having worked with data clouds with LIDAR I find the resolution and accuracy of the interpretation to have come a long way. Well done to all the Teams involved in this work is outstanding. Keep up the great work folks
Excellent Work !!, So I Wonder if Drones Fitted with Same Camera equipment could take Photo's with preprogrammed paths around object to be imaged, to be able to image deeper wrecks remotely, theoretically faster/Safer than Humans, adding the possibility of doing "side-scan" survey at same time, I can only compare it to LIDAR Point Clouds, but it seems possible ...
I don't know if you have contact to the development team of the software seen in this talk, but I have a comment for them! I have developed some point cloud renderers myself, and I have noticed that you can get rid of the distracting moiré patterns seen at 17:43 by randomly offsetting each point by a tiny amount (about half the diameter of a drawn point suffices) before rendering. This gives a clearer, smoother image, without really distorting the data presented.
I know 24 scuttled destroyers were refloated and scrapped, There has been no economic incentive to attempt to raise the remaining wrecks. They are marked under the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979
You can read more about the salvaging of the wrecks in Scapa Flow in our online exhibition: stromnessmuseum.org.uk/whatson/online/scapa-100-salvaging-our-heritage
@@christophermiller833 Then start with the USS Arizona first, she's actually in the Pacific while the ships mentioned in the video are in the Atlantic.
i have never understood. Why sink all those ships. the wining side should have put there flag on them and used them as there own. it would have saved a lot of TAX moneys. maybe scrap a couple of the broken ships but put the better ones to use.
The German High Seas Fleet wasn't scuttled by the victors, rather than their own crews against the wishes of the victors, although it was indeed a great relief to the senior command of the Royal Navy as it resolved the worrisome issue of these vessels being divided among the Allied nations in accordance with the outcome of the Paris Peace Conference. They were scuttled at their moorings due to the concern of the fleet commander Admiral Ludwig Von Reuter and his staff that the German Government may assent to the fleet being formally handed over to the Allied Nations as a condition of the proposed Treaty of Versailles. In the absence of any guidance from his government. he chose to scuttle the ships and preserve the honor of the German Navy.
Thank you for your comment. We completely understand why you would think the spelling should be with a K given the modern day spelling of the city. However an early 20th century German spelling reform standardised the spelling with a C. The ship’s bell is housed in the Scapa Flow Museum and is spelt with a C. The spelling decision was reversed shortly after WWI and the city has been spelt with a K ever since. This is why the WW2 ship is also spelt with a K but when referring to SMS Cöln in Scapa Flow it would be incorrect to use the letter K.
The spelling was changed after WW1, referring to the city, but by that time , the ship was already history so the name stayed as it was. The Americans also changed a lot of spellings and transformed English into Yankinese, which I am sure pees you off.
@@windborne8795 The name of the city (and the namesake of the SMS Cöln) was used as Cöln from 1857 to 1919 and then changed into Köln. Prior to 1857 both Cöln and Köln were used.
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Absolutely fascinating. A wonderful memorial to both the crew of the Royal Oak and the crews of the High Seas Fleet.
Only 9 members of the High Seas Fleet died and 16 were wounded as a result of the scuttling of 52 of the 74 vessels which were interned, all of them were shot by Royal Navy boarding parties attempting to intervene to prevent the ships from being scuttled in breach of the terms of their internment. At the time of the scuttling, the ships only had skeleton crews remaining, consisting of their most loyal and thereby reliable members, after the majority of the crews including many who had openly behaved mutinously for months previously including by creating communist cadres or 'Soviets' were repatriated in the months prior to the scuttling.
Brilliantly presented. As a novice, the terminology used is clear, precise and totally fascinating. Photogrammetry will be phenomenal when you explore the full potential. Can wait. Scapa was a place visited by my family a child and 53 still intrigues me. Well done you guys.
Fascinating discussion, esp the "cloud" approach along with grafting photo imagery onto the cloud data. Astonishing work that opens up the ocean depths to view.
Dived here many years ago, fantastic week weather wise, stopped at the Stromness hotel and there was a folk festival on, great boat skipper Jock Cordock (hope i spelt his name right it was well over 30 years ago) never forgot it.
Wonderful presentation , it is of great interests of what technology can bring us and one wonders what future improvements will show us in even more detail , this certainly keeps the story alive and generates interest in Orkney history.
Fascinating and the resolution is amazing. Peace to the crew of HMS Royal Oak.
I have such a phobia of this stuff and that's exactly why I keep seeking it out
You too?
This is absolutely amazing! I wish we could see more WWII wrecks in this kind of detail!
Very interesting! An enormous help to boat captains of dive charters, and divers themselves. Far better than the sketches I've seen before. Even 20 years ago, parts of the wrecks were slowly collapsing. Scapa Flow is thought to be in the top 10 of dive sites worldwide, and is quite popular, often booked up a year ahead or more. Athough some of the main wrecks are moderately deep, they are blessed with quite good visibility, water conditions and few currents in the central huge natural harbour area. Additionally there are many other dive sites with interesting stuff to see, such as shallower ship wrecking areas, fishing vessels and blockships. Orkney itself is full of interesting historical stuff to see for the non-diving days, and makes for a pleasant place to stay.
How many feet are moderately deep? Were there any human remains within them?
@@margaretsmallallan28 what remains can probably be picked with a teaspoon now. (not that it should be!) It's been 105 years...
@@margaretsmallallan28 up to about 150 feet, but if you're limited to 100 feet there's still a lot to see. The German wrecks were all deliberately sunk, so no sailors were on board. The British wrecks Vanguard (1917) and Royal Oak (1939) are designated war graves and diving is not generally permitted.
Excellent presentation,. Thank you.
So amazing, thanks from Perth Australia for uploading this 👍☺
This was an outstanding presentation. Lots of details revealed. Thanks for sharing.
That scan of the Bayern turrets very interesting.
Ðived on those in 1989 and wish I'd seen this scan before then.
Absolutely fascinating presentation and sharing of information. Having worked with data clouds with LIDAR I find the resolution and accuracy of the interpretation to have come a long way. Well done to all the Teams involved in this work is outstanding. Keep up the great work folks
Very good, thank you for showing.
Amazing work and it must continue.
Most interesting presentation. Thanks for sharing.
That's a lot of bow damage to Royal Oak for no-one noticing.
Fascinating!
That can be buffed right out
Sure, just needs a good drying out first
@@miatafan and then buff with a fine chamois
Maybe FlexSeal products can hep in patching up the wrecks in Scapa?
@@davidmurphy8190 Inject buoyancy Foam ..
@@davidmurphy8190 you win!
That is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Cool, Thank you
Excellent Work !!, So I Wonder if Drones Fitted with Same Camera equipment could take Photo's with preprogrammed paths around object to be imaged, to be able to image deeper wrecks remotely, theoretically faster/Safer than Humans, adding the possibility of doing "side-scan" survey at same time, I can only compare it to LIDAR Point Clouds, but it seems possible ...
Fascinating stuff! Could you post a link to the BBC content you referred to please? I'd love to see that.
I don't know if you have contact to the development team of the software seen in this talk, but I have a comment for them!
I have developed some point cloud renderers myself, and I have noticed that you can get rid of the distracting moiré patterns seen at 17:43 by randomly offsetting each point by a tiny amount (about half the diameter of a drawn point suffices) before rendering. This gives a clearer, smoother image, without really distorting the data presented.
Video approved.
11:33 sounds like someone had too many beans for lunch =)
Totally stumbled upon this by accident really interesting
Why didn't they finish removing the wrecks?
I know 24 scuttled destroyers were refloated and scrapped, There has been no economic incentive to attempt to raise the remaining wrecks. They are marked under the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979
You can read more about the salvaging of the wrecks in Scapa Flow in our online exhibition:
stromnessmuseum.org.uk/whatson/online/scapa-100-salvaging-our-heritage
Mainly too deep for commercial salvage in the 1940's
Takes the place of photo mosaics.
Lots of good scrap
With the exception of HMS Royal Oak ofc which is a war grave.
Wrecks in the Pacific are disappearing one by one. Pre-atomic age steel, lead, etc. are valuable, war grave or not.
@@christophermiller833 It’s the best steel
@@christophermiller833 Then start with the USS Arizona first, she's actually in the Pacific while the ships mentioned in the video are in the Atlantic.
i have never understood. Why sink all those ships. the wining side should have put there flag on them and used them as there own. it would have saved a lot of TAX moneys. maybe scrap a couple of the broken ships but put the better ones to use.
The German High Seas Fleet wasn't scuttled by the victors, rather than their own crews against the wishes of the victors, although it was indeed a great relief to the senior command of the Royal Navy as it resolved the worrisome issue of these vessels being divided among the Allied nations in accordance with the outcome of the Paris Peace Conference. They were scuttled at their moorings due to the concern of the fleet commander Admiral Ludwig Von Reuter and his staff that the German Government may assent to the fleet being formally handed over to the Allied Nations as a condition of the proposed Treaty of Versailles. In the absence of any guidance from his government. he chose to scuttle the ships and preserve the honor of the German Navy.
11:36
Someone just lets out a loud fart.
It's spelt Koln. How can anyone trust anything one says when there are mistakes made as trivial as this?
Thank you for your comment. We completely understand why you would think the spelling should be with a K given the modern day spelling of the city. However an early 20th century German spelling reform standardised the spelling with a C. The ship’s bell is housed in the Scapa Flow Museum and is spelt with a C. The spelling decision was reversed shortly after WWI and the city has been spelt with a K ever since. This is why the WW2 ship is also spelt with a K but when referring to SMS Cöln in Scapa Flow it would be incorrect to use the letter K.
@@stromnessmuseum615 Thank you for clarifying. I was ignorant of the facts. My apologies.
The spelling was changed after WW1, referring to the city, but by that time , the ship was already history so the name stayed as it was.
The Americans also changed a lot of spellings and transformed English into Yankinese, which I am sure pees you off.
@@windborne8795 The name of the city (and the namesake of the SMS Cöln) was used as Cöln from 1857 to 1919 and then changed into Köln. Prior to 1857 both Cöln and Köln were used.
Royal Oak didn't carry 4 inch guns, 15, 6 and 3???