Bought my smart sole Cleveland chipper a week ago with graphite shaft. Love it already. Looks great and the shaft flex helps launch the ball without effort. Just a matter of distance control now.
Picked up a chipper from a local charity shop for £1. I cleaned it and used it last week. First time I ever scored an Eagle. It now sits comfortably with my 52° and 56° MP Series RAW Black Ox wedges. When it comes to personal enjoyment of Golf, I use every tool available to have fun
I bought the Cleveland chipper a couple of weeks ago since watching you guys having so much fun with it and I love it. I agree that’s it not necessarily “better” than a wedge but it is definitely a lot less thinking involved.
I got an older Cleveland Niblick Chipper. Stays in my bag. Taking my 4 iron out when I get a 3 wood. D, 3W, hybrid, 5-pw, 52, 56, 60, and my chipper. Saves me a lot of strokes
Great stuff guys!! Worth mentioning the Cleveland C is 42 degrees. The Odyssey is 37 degrees. The Cleveland you can hit full shots. Can hood it and hit lower ones. Can open it slightly/move it up and hit med height shots with some spin. The Odyssey is a putter with loft pretty much and even has the white hot face which is pretty soft especially compared to a wedge chipper like the Cleveland C. I have owned both. The Cleveland C is by far and away the better more versatile club. High cappers like 20 plus get the Odyssey. Mid cappers 14 or so get the Cleveland C. And enjoy it. Awesome club.
I've just started using the same Odyssey chipper and its brilliant. Using a putting stroke to chip makes some of these shots a lot easier than using a wedge.
For those of you making fun of people using chippers or for those of you who say chippers are for golfers with poor skill you are wrong. I have always had a decent short game but still wanted to improve. I bought the Callaway X-act tank 37* chipper a few years ago. I love it more and more every day! My putting is now averaging under 31 putts per round based on my last 80 rounds on 14 different courses. Last year at the World Amateur Handicapped golf tournament in Myrtle Beach, I won a $225.00 skin with a chip in birdie using my chipper. During my last 3 rounds of golf, I have had 5 chip ins! The golfers I play against might go 3 rounds without a single chip in. (64 year old golfer here).
Loved that. I used to have a chipper many moons ago when it was so frowned upon😅. Interested to know if you would carry it in Winter or rainy weather🤔. Would love to see a test on that for curiousity👍👍
I had a chipper in my bag for 2-3 years, loved it, it wasn’t an expensive one either, but boy did it save me shots around the green. I don’t care what people think, take whatever help you can get and don’t worry about the golf snobs. Use one if your chipping around the green is god awful😁👍
I vote for the crossy wedge! Just bought one at a discount to help through the muddy offseason chipping. Turns out it was the black finish too. The Odyssey will not rescue me to literally get out of the woods. And I like it being 5 degrees more lofted
I bought the Cleveland Smart Sole 4 C, G and S wedges. Love them!! I am chipping near pins now (after practicing and dialing in the distance control), gapping from 120 yards without worrying about thinning it and getting out of the bunkers in 1 without even opening the face with S. These 3 clubs reduces 5-8 extra strokes per round for me over the past month. I am a 25 handicap so I need them. I know a scratch golfer that uses a chipper at my club - he uses it from between 10 - 120 yards. Amazing club but you need to practice the distance control!
Tried those square strike chippers but they felt awful, so stumped up and got the Cleveland and it has transformed my short game, feels good, confidence has grown and therefore scores have come down, thought Coach would get one as well but has gone down Odyssey route.
I initially bought a Tour Edge (cause it was half the price of the Cleveland) which is shaped much like the Odyssey Matt has. I was not happy with how it performed so picked up the Smart Sole. The turf interaction is so much better with the shape of the Smart Sole. I like how easy it is to pop the ball up even out of flat lies like they were doing. Does not replace my 56 when the ball is in some taller grass, but it is still a very versatile club and worth making room for IMO.
Good video Coach! It's pride that stops us amateurs using clubs like that. Exactly what Mark said about being green side in two and duffing chips and scrambling a 6 😭
Here are some things to consider when buying a chipper, Double-sided head: Chippers with double-sided heads aren’t allowed in regulated golf. The USGA states that all irons must have a single-sided head to qualify. Putter grip: Using a chipper with a putter grip makes it illegal to use in regulated matches. Longer than a 7-iron: isn’t allowed in regulated play. Appendages that help with aim: Like irons, your chipper can’t have any arrows or other graphics that help with aim.
Thank you for the rules. Good to know. I was going to replace the round grip on my chipper with a fat putter grip. I have no intention of playing regulated golf. I play only on Sundays for fun
I have, and use, the Ray Cook Silver Ray Chipper for certain shots, and I use my 8 Iron for other shots...They both work well...And, both take practice!!!
Could've swore i commented here back when I watched it... Maybe I didn't hit the comment button or something, lol! But basically I wanted to mention that the Odyssey chipper is 37 degrees while the Cleveland chipper is 42 degrees. So they might not be as comparable for the situation as you think as I'd imagine the Odyssey would have a bit more difficulty in this scenario due to the lower loft. That being said, I seen chippers come in a pretty wide range of other lofts. Wilson has a 32er. Top Flite makes 45ers, Mazel makes a 45, 55 and 60er. etc... So chances are people can find ones for their style. It also wouldn't surprise me if people just switched out their wedges for said higher lofted chippers if they take a liking to chippers for different situations.
I might just have to go test this chipper business haha thanks for the vid! When are we going to see another swing speed video?! How’s the training coming?
I have one and I absolutely love it. Mid and high handicap golfers should ALL take the 3 wood or your longest iron out of the bag and putt one of these in the bag. You will lower your scores. It's certainly not for every shot around the green but what it does, it does very well. No stigma to lower scores.
YES!! I would game a chipper Mark and Coach. I already game a smart sole sand wedge and have been on the verge of getting a Cleveland chipper for 12 months. But now Mark Parfield has gone and done a Delia (everyone sold out of Cranberries when Delia used them) and you can't get one for love nor money. Drat
Great stuff guys!! Worth mentioning the Cleveland C is 42 degrees. The Odyssey is 37 degrees. The Cleveland you can hit full shots. Can hood it and hit lower ones. Can open it slightly/move it up and hit med height shots with some spin. The Odyssey is a putter with loft pretty much and even has the white hot face which is pretty soft especially compared to a wedge chipper like the Cleveland C. I have owned both. The Cleveland C is by far and away the better more versatile club. High cappers like 20 plus get the Odyssey. Mid cappers 14 or so get the Cleveland C. And enjoy it. Awesome club.
Have a Cleveland Smart Sole Chipper 42* Great club that I can use from about 70 yds out. Had problems convincing friends to use chipper. Now they can't leave it behind & have fun
I bought a £15 slazenger chipper just to try it as I was shanking some of my chips !(horrible) It's just a long putting stroke and gives me more confidence! I'm a 10 handicap so not a beginner ill try any thing to make the game more enjoyable! Good luck with the channel Coach!
I like the simplicity and idea of a chipper, however I can play a 'chipper' shot with a 6, 7 or 9 iron depending on lie, what's between me and the hole, distance to hole etc
Got a odyssey Tank chipper which i use all the time around the green and if i need to chip out around trees and bushes but looking to get a Ping ChipR to go with my Ping Irons. Must say it does annoy my playing partners when I chip straight in the hole.I also still use my 58 and 60 wedges if the ball is sat down in deep grass . The more you use it Coach the more confident you will become with it
I have a MacGregor MacTech X chipper and it is a directional weapon. I use Clevland RTX ZipCore wedges 50 and a 56. I have forsaken the 60 to make room for the chipper. I sometimes tilt up my 7i or 8i and grip down to chip, but I never seem to get as close as with the MacTech X chipper. I started playing golf in 2020 and I am a 24 hcp. My goal is 15-10 hcp for 2023. The chipper might make that happen. :)
Would a better comparison for this shot be testing the chipper vs an 8 or 9 iron? It could be the chipper or it could be chipping with less loft. I know amateurs typically grab the most lofted club and perhaps you and Mark have made videos previously about bump and running it but that seems to be all that’s happening here. Less loft and getting the ball running sooner tends to give more consistent results. I don’t think people need a new club just an ego check. 👍
Another great video. Thanks chaps. I had the previous generation odyssey chipper for a few seasons. Bifs were really bad and a dime a dozen. It was good for 10ft or less shots from the fringe or green side rough. I sunk a few. Anything further away from the hole than that I would get more accuracy and better consistency from a stick with a rock tied to it. The face was so hard at impact. I think they need a putter insert in it. I traded that thing in for a box of titleist and a summer shandy. I recently found an Adam's chipper at a resale sports shop. The face is really hot. With the right touch my results are really good with that one. I find that a chipper is the right club in the right scenario just as you guys mentioned. Looking forward to the ping chipr because it has aggressive grooves for spin. Leave it to Ping.
I'd love to see the chippers compared to say, 7i or 9i with the same swing; it seemed that the low bump and runs that Mark was hitting with his chipper looked like the old-school 7i low bumps into the hillside. The wedge, hitting it higher and having it land soft is a completely different shot.
The difference is the extra weighting low, very wide sole, and upright lie angle make it basically impossible to duff. I was decent at grabbing an iron, pointing the toe down for an upright lie and taking a putter swing to get it on the green when close, but the chipper is just so much easier, and usable from further away from the green than that method.
@@matthewdenlinger5475 there was a season I used the 8 irons for everything just about. Same concept essentially. I used a chipper about 20 years ago on shots just off the green, the club performed well. But, it is one more club of 14. Chippers r good. Just not the route I am going.
In my opinion the idea of a chipper is (aside from the obvious) to maybe take a club out of the bag that you struggle with (in my case the 60 degree). Comparing it to a 7, 8 or 9 iron doesn't make sense to me as you wouldn't take them out of the bag. I understand why you would want to see the comparison but the results would generally be the same, people who can't chip with a wedge or iron would get one of these. I've just ordered the Cleveland one because I'm sick of duffing my chips, I don't have time to practice or get lessons.
@@christopherwatson4730 I may purchase a chipper. I really enjoyed 8 iron chipping. The drawback for using 8 or 7 r 2 fold for me. One, I get a lot of spin which is confusing to judge, second the clubs r too long and too flat. I guess those r 3 reasons. I have gotten really good at chipping 56 degree 📜. But I think the application of chippers r unique accurate and low risk. If I have to take a 4 iron out the bag, so be it.
Can you compare Rinky vs. Chippy Mark? The idea being to save a club. Both have the flat bottom to help anti-duff. The nice thing about the chipper would be putter length and softer feel/insert over a Hybrid, I just don't like giving up a club as irrational as that is especially if a chipper helps more with strokes gained in a round.
Significantly more accurate with the chipper in terms of start line and target for both of you guys. Most of the bump balls were with the chipper. I just wonder if this could be accomplished with an 8 iron.
I am one putting much more often with my "Crossywedge". It's a no brainer for me. I think it is "better" in some situations, and equal more often than I dreamed. It's not like I'm taking all the lofted wedges out of my bag. Choose the one that's best situationally. For me, and I assume most amateurs, the directional control is definitely better - for you guys, that's not an issue.
I use a Ray Cook. The shaft is more upright allowing you to stand closer to the ball. Bevelled and heavier clubhead. Deadly accurate. I hit the flagstick at least once a round. Like chipping with any club, you have to practice a method that works for you.
I have both types of chippers. Problem is that they don't come with instructions. Do you do anything different when you use them? They haven't remained in my bag. I played my first two rounds of the year last weekend with the type Mark has. I need more practice with it.
Quick question: looking at the low/forward trajectory of the chipper which makes the ball land in front of the Green and then run close to the flag, would you not get a very similar result with a 6iron bump and run?
my issue would be losing the spot in my bag: the chipper aint gonna help from ae bunker, nor am I likely to use it from 115yds. However, what if there was a compromise? I had an odd idea: what if I swapped my 9i for a SGI super wide soled PW (I'm assuming here that it would be the same loft as my current 9i) and had that at the same loft and lie as my current 9i. It would then be a fantastic all purpose club around the green with which I could still hit at stock 150 shot and maybe even a 140 yd knock down.
I got an old Dunlop chipper from a thrift store 5 years ago and have been using one ever since, I upgraded a couple years ago to a putter length and lie angle from Powerbilt at 32°
I play off 3 handicap but my chipping is not good. I bought a Cleveland chipper before the season and it is saving my 2/3 shots a round. Toooo much ego in golf. Buy the club's that will do the job .
Am testing out a Chipper in my bag this week and wanted the Cleveland Chipper but could not get one here in Ireland so managed to find another one, Spalding SP Chipper, for a fraction of the price that looks pretty similar to the Cleveland. Up to recently I've been using my hybrid for bump and run shots where I'm not confident with a wedge, and hoping the chipper with a shorter shaft will work just as well, if not better than the hybrid which can be awkward to use with its longer shaft.
I use a 56 Sure Out 2 if I am in the bunker or need to get a hop over something, and I use a 45 mazel for anything inside 100 yards that can be bumped , I have the chip yips with wedges and it ruins my fun.
I have a 9 hybrid 37 degrees I use as a chipper and living in the desert (Las Vegas) you need a rock club so you don't mess up your irons it works great for both
Apparently USGA and R&A don't see chippers as illegal so why not. The only regulations is the chipper cannot be a two-way or be fitted with a putter grip.
I bought my Crossy chipper about 3 days before y'all put out your video on them. I had a decent short game before I got it but now its much better. I think it not only has to do with the chipper but with the confidence I have in it. By the way, I'm an old geezer so nobody laughs when I pull it out and one of my buddy's ordered one himself!
Yes I would and I do! Smart Sole Chipper. Had it for a couple years now it gets a ton of use. I feel very confident with it in my hand standing over the ball. I even use it from 40-50 yds out. It’s amazing. Mark in a bucket hat? Yeah baby!!!
If you get good gapping with your clubs you will be able to find a space for the chipper. My gap wedge has gone from my set so now go PW (46), 51 degree, 58 degree
I had an old hybrid 3 lying around, shortened the shaft to length of a wedge, and using it as a DIY chipper. Works like a charm. And I can give it a good swing as well :-)
37° chipper versus 52° wedge, all things being equal, one would have to generate more ball speed to move the ball hit with the 52° club than the 37° club. So a bladed miss hit wedge shot will naturally end further away from the hole - head to head the average golfer (me) would be much better off chipping with a chipper than wedge. But if you play by the 14-club max rule, which club do you take out of your bag to gain a chipper? Chances are you've already reduced the number of fairway woods you once carried to add an extra wedge or two. And you've likely already reduced the number of irons to accommodate a hybrid or two. I prefer my friend's response - forget about the 14-club rule and carry 22 clubs. The only downside is he has to hire a Sherpa to get his clubs from the car to the cart barn. ;). Great video, Coach! And that other guy, too, who looks like you just plucked him out of the line at Disneyland.
The answer you're looking for is to space out your irons in loft. 2 yrs ago I switched to the following lofts (PW,9,8,7,6,5) -> (47,42,37,32,28,24) - this covers the very traditional 47-degree PW to 24-degree 4-iron in 1 less club. You then add a 22/21 hybrid, (old 3-iron loft), and then either a 5w or 3H at 19/18 degrees. You can then choose to carry a 3 or 4 wood - can also replace the 4H with a 7wood if you want. On the wedge side, since your PW is 47-degrees, a 52/53 and then 58/59/60 is a perfect 2 wedge setup (Tiger does this as he uses a 48-degree PW). My iron lofts produce carries of (133,146,159,172,185,195). My 21-degree hybrid is 205 and my 18-degree hybrid is 215. My 52 wedge is 118 so I need an 80% PW shot to give me a 125 distance which I don't find to be a problem. I add 1/2" to my 60, which I bend to 59, so I can cover 100 Yards on a full swing if I need it. I don't carry a chipper, so I have 2 other clubs that I choose from depending on the course I'm playing - either another wedge or usually a 2H at 15-degrees which I use as a fade tee club on tight holes
@@wallstreetoneil thanks for a very thoughtful response. I will certainly consider this if/when I change out my bag. I turned 70 yrs old this year and still hitting stiff shafts. Currently recovering from my second (and final😁) total knee replacement so could be in need for a change soon. ;)
@@davidolmstead9694 I set up my parent's bags and this is what I've done for them given their now slower swing speed: Cleveland 58/52 CBX2 wedges - both mom & dad carry chippers - my father finally accepted it last year - he now loves it. Then they both carry 4 irons (PW, 9, 8, 7). Then 7&6 hybrids, 9wood, 5wood (all Ping), Driver for my father and 7hybrid, 7wood Driver for my mother - thus my dad carries 13 clubs & mother carries 11 - Dad shoots 88-92 and mother 96-102. Getting much lighter graphite shafts in the hybrids made a huge difference in their games.
Yep, I put one in the bag a few months ago and love it. Definitely a great option in the winter and I use it up to about 75 yards, I suspect in the summer it might not be as effective, but like everything in golf will depend on the situation. Obviously despite the joking you and Mark are skilled players so I suspect the benefits are less obvious. There’s more definitely more control and spin from a wedge, but the lack of duffs is such a relief, it’s a no brainer for me. Just keep it quiet though, don’t want everyone at my club getting one!!!
I had an X Act chipper, older version than yours and it’s really good. I got rid of it because I got terrorised for using it. Ive been toying with getting another but I’ve got no room in my bag anymore
I’m a 5-6 handicapper. Always struggled with chipping but just can’t bring myself to use one of these even though I know I would score better. But to see PGA pros trying and recommending the chipper it has changed my mind. Bring on making the game as easy as possible.
I put one in my bag after marks first video. It definitely has advantages! Haven't taken out a club. If I had to I would take out my 54 in replacement. I have practiced very little with it but I am usually always long and get to see the break of the putt coming back and the ball always has a chance to go in
I think the added pressure of course play is not to be dismissed. Rolling 6 foot putts in on the practice green is like shelling peas. Totally different under the pressure of actual play. I believe you both will see gains from the on course situations.
I will not, I prefer to have an extra wedge to tighten the gapping within scoring range, but I can see it being useful for golfers that have difficulty chipping around the green.
Got the Ping Chipr (new one that’s been out a year). Less of a risky club but I still need to practice with it - I get spin off it which can be unpredictable
I still have my Chipper in the garage, I’ve resisted putting it in the bag for a few years. I use an 8 iron for those sort of shots. I do how ever use a Cleveland smart sole 56 wedge, which I would recommend 👍
As a subscriber this might seem to be treachery, but Mark's style of chipper is the more versatile than the putting style. The only downside to Mark's iron like model is that it is not adjustable. If you are a cheapskate - I speak from experience - get a kid's 7 or 8 iron - try to find a forged version from the 1980s or 1970s. Usually these are comically oversized and do not have any bounce. Put an adult's grip - you can use this to chip out of sand, mud, Dubai rough or carpet. The trajectory will be much lower than a 64 and the only thing to fear is the thin (and even this will not go too far). And yes it is much better than the equivalent chip and run club because the miss margin is so much bigger (assuming do not have mad skills like Coach or Seve and carry a 2 iron that you chip with)
I'm curious how chippers hold up on heavily undulating greens. I chip with anything from 7 iron to my 64 degree lob wedge depending on the slant of the green and distance.
Just the fact that Marks went passed the hole means they had a chance of dropping in and I like that with my chipper and yes you don’t have to think about it…..👍. The funny thing is I talked my mates out of using chippers a few years ago! 😂
I use a CLEVELAND SMART SOLE CHIPPER, & love the control I CAN get with it. Nice thing is the club let's YOU decide if you want to let it get over the fringe, and roll to pin or slow it down by landing on the fringe...
The smart sole 2.0c has been in my bag since it came out. It is my go to club for pretty much ever shot up to 70 yards. It will need to be ripped from my cold dead hand.
Well Coach, I'd try one for sure, especially if I could properly test it w/o buying one. My 56 has magic in her, but I suck with a Texas wedge and the chipper seems good for that situation. Maybe I should practice more....hmmmm.
Sorry Coach, I would get one but if I do its going to be the Cleveland. I am sorry to say but the "putter" chipper just isn't cool. Best way I can describe this, I want one and probably need one but I dont want people to be able to see I have one. And realistically they are probably similar price point right?
I’d be curious to see if you’d be any better with a chipper than an 8 or 9 iron in the same circumstance. If it’s gonna take up a spot in the bag, it better be worth it. I’d wager that there wouldn’t be enough of a performance difference to warrant putting it in the bag. Could be wrong though.
Don’t make me start looking at chippers PLEASE!!! My wife complains I spend too much on golf as it is! LOL Keep up the great content mates! Cheers from the US!
It’s funny, got a Cleveland chipper a few weeks ago. Honeymoon period, hit a lot of good shots with it, like most around 6 foot with a couple of tap ins. But I missed every 6 foot putt. I took it out one more time, horrible results from bad technique. Old flaws creeping back in. Back to my old bag set up, don’t really have room for it. Maybe later…
How come your chipper's stay so low even though they look like they've got a decent amount of loft on them? 58 would scare me so I'd use a PW or 8 iron! Fun video 👍
Bought my smart sole Cleveland chipper a week ago with graphite shaft. Love it already. Looks great and the shaft flex helps launch the ball without effort. Just a matter of distance control now.
Picked up a chipper from a local charity shop for £1. I cleaned it and used it last week. First time I ever scored an Eagle. It now sits comfortably with my 52° and 56° MP Series RAW Black Ox wedges. When it comes to personal enjoyment of Golf, I use every tool available to have fun
Amen bruh
I bought the Cleveland chipper a couple of weeks ago since watching you guys having so much fun with it and I love it. I agree that’s it not necessarily “better” than a wedge but it is definitely a lot less thinking involved.
I had one of these but sold it. Regret it a bit now but didn't find it much better than using an iron.
I got an older Cleveland Niblick Chipper. Stays in my bag. Taking my 4 iron out when I get a 3 wood. D, 3W, hybrid, 5-pw, 52, 56, 60, and my chipper. Saves me a lot of strokes
In the video, too much trying to be cool, bantering trying to act like a lad, or trying to make cool ladish remarks.
Golf stores around the world are going to be wondering WTF is going on with people coming in to buy chippers
Must be sold out world wide by now
Sold out in aus at the moment! You guys did it made chippers cool again!
Just bought one.
Great stuff guys!!
Worth mentioning the Cleveland C is 42 degrees. The Odyssey is 37 degrees. The Cleveland you can hit full shots. Can hood it and hit lower ones. Can open it slightly/move it up and hit med height shots with some spin. The Odyssey is a putter with loft pretty much and even has the white hot face which is pretty soft especially compared to a wedge chipper like the Cleveland C. I have owned both. The Cleveland C is by far and away the better more versatile club. High cappers like 20 plus get the Odyssey. Mid cappers 14 or so get the Cleveland C. And enjoy it. Awesome club.
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I've just started using the same Odyssey chipper and its brilliant. Using a putting stroke to chip makes some of these shots a lot easier than using a wedge.
You can use a putting stroke to chip with a 7 or 8 iron.
For those of you making fun of people using chippers or for those of you who say chippers are for golfers with poor skill you are wrong. I have always had a decent short game but still wanted to improve. I bought the Callaway X-act tank 37* chipper a few years ago. I love it more and more every day! My putting is now averaging under 31 putts per round based on my last 80 rounds on 14 different courses. Last year at the World Amateur Handicapped golf tournament in Myrtle Beach, I won a $225.00 skin with a chip in birdie using my chipper. During my last 3 rounds of golf, I have had 5 chip ins! The golfers I play against might go 3 rounds without a single chip in. (64 year old golfer here).
Loved that. I used to have a chipper many moons ago when it was so frowned upon😅. Interested to know if you would carry it in Winter or rainy weather🤔. Would love to see a test on that for curiousity👍👍
I use my 7 wood for these types of shots, plus that gives me a club to use off the tee/fairway!
I like the bump 8 iron with a putting stroke. Gives me a similar result and confidence around the green.
I had a chipper in my bag for 2-3 years, loved it, it wasn’t an expensive one either, but boy did it save me shots around the green. I don’t care what people think, take whatever help you can get and don’t worry about the golf snobs. Use one if your chipping around the green is god awful😁👍
I vote for the crossy wedge!
Just bought one at a discount to help through the muddy offseason chipping. Turns out it was the black finish too. The Odyssey will not rescue me to literally get out of the woods. And I like it being 5 degrees more lofted
Crossy wedge is better 100%
I bought the Cleveland Smart Sole 4 C, G and S wedges. Love them!! I am chipping near pins now (after practicing and dialing in the distance control), gapping from 120 yards without worrying about thinning it and getting out of the bunkers in 1 without even opening the face with S. These 3 clubs reduces 5-8 extra strokes per round for me over the past month. I am a 25 handicap so I need them. I know a scratch golfer that uses a chipper at my club - he uses it from between 10 - 120 yards. Amazing club but you need to practice the distance control!
Tried those square strike chippers but they felt awful, so stumped up and got the Cleveland and it has transformed my short game, feels good, confidence has grown and therefore scores have come down, thought Coach would get one as well but has gone down Odyssey route.
I initially bought a Tour Edge (cause it was half the price of the Cleveland) which is shaped much like the Odyssey Matt has. I was not happy with how it performed so picked up the Smart Sole. The turf interaction is so much better with the shape of the Smart Sole. I like how easy it is to pop the ball up even out of flat lies like they were doing. Does not replace my 56 when the ball is in some taller grass, but it is still a very versatile club and worth making room for IMO.
Good video Coach! It's pride that stops us amateurs using clubs like that. Exactly what Mark said about being green side in two and duffing chips and scrambling a 6 😭
Here are some things to consider when buying a chipper, Double-sided head: Chippers with double-sided heads aren’t allowed in regulated golf. The USGA states that all irons must have a single-sided head to qualify. Putter grip: Using a chipper with a putter grip makes it illegal to use in regulated matches. Longer than a 7-iron: isn’t allowed in regulated play. Appendages that help with aim: Like irons, your chipper can’t have any arrows or other graphics that help with aim.
Thank you for the rules. Good to know. I was going to replace the round grip on my chipper with a fat putter grip. I have no intention of playing regulated golf. I play only on Sundays for fun
I have, and use, the Ray Cook Silver Ray Chipper for certain shots, and I use my 8 Iron for other shots...They both work well...And, both take practice!!!
Could've swore i commented here back when I watched it... Maybe I didn't hit the comment button or something, lol! But basically I wanted to mention that the Odyssey chipper is 37 degrees while the Cleveland chipper is 42 degrees. So they might not be as comparable for the situation as you think as I'd imagine the Odyssey would have a bit more difficulty in this scenario due to the lower loft.
That being said, I seen chippers come in a pretty wide range of other lofts. Wilson has a 32er. Top Flite makes 45ers, Mazel makes a 45, 55 and 60er. etc... So chances are people can find ones for their style. It also wouldn't surprise me if people just switched out their wedges for said higher lofted chippers if they take a liking to chippers for different situations.
I might just have to go test this chipper business haha thanks for the vid! When are we going to see another swing speed video?! How’s the training coming?
I have one and I absolutely love it. Mid and high handicap golfers should ALL take the 3 wood or your longest iron out of the bag and putt one of these in the bag. You will lower your scores. It's certainly not for every shot around the green but what it does, it does very well. No stigma to lower scores.
YES!! I would game a chipper Mark and Coach. I already game a smart sole sand wedge and have been on the verge of getting a Cleveland chipper for 12 months. But now Mark Parfield has gone and done a Delia (everyone sold out of Cranberries when Delia used them) and you can't get one for love nor money. Drat
Thought we had a guest appearance from golf sidekick, with Mark in that polo & bucket hat haha
The only thing I would say is with the chipper u were chip & running the ball would you be as good in longer rough around the greens
Yes, but you would not be seen dead at the club with the boys, with a chipper in your bag!!! 😂
Great stuff guys!!
Worth mentioning the Cleveland C is 42 degrees. The Odyssey is 37 degrees. The Cleveland you can hit full shots. Can hood it and hit lower ones. Can open it slightly/move it up and hit med height shots with some spin. The Odyssey is a putter with loft pretty much and even has the white hot face which is pretty soft especially compared to a wedge chipper like the Cleveland C. I have owned both. The Cleveland C is by far and away the better more versatile club. High cappers like 20 plus get the Odyssey. Mid cappers 14 or so get the Cleveland C. And enjoy it. Awesome club.
Get the Ping great from 100 yards out amazing club !
Thanks for the video! It’s two different shoots. Perhaps compare chipper vs 8 iron?
I love mine, I bought the ACT TANK as a brand new golfer! 37degrees, same as an 9 iron but the putting stoke makes so much more sense
Liked even more for Mark looking like he’s gone to England away 🤣
Have a Cleveland Smart Sole Chipper 42* Great club that I can use from about 70 yds out.
Had problems convincing friends to use chipper. Now they can't leave it behind & have fun
I bought a £15 slazenger chipper just to try it as I was shanking some of my chips !(horrible) It's just a long putting stroke and gives me more confidence! I'm a 10 handicap so not a beginner ill try any thing to make the game more enjoyable! Good luck with the channel Coach!
Everything comes around! Forty years ago a chipper was the club to have!😊
I like the simplicity and idea of a chipper, however I can play a 'chipper' shot with a 6, 7 or 9 iron depending on lie, what's between me and the hole, distance to hole etc
Got a odyssey Tank chipper which i use all the time around the green and if i need to chip out around trees and bushes but looking to get a Ping ChipR to go with my Ping Irons. Must say it does annoy my playing partners when I chip straight in the hole.I also still use my 58 and 60 wedges if the ball is sat down in deep grass . The more you use it Coach the more confident you will become with it
I have a MacGregor MacTech X chipper and it is a directional weapon. I use Clevland RTX ZipCore wedges 50 and a 56. I have forsaken the 60 to make room for the chipper. I sometimes tilt up my 7i or 8i and grip down to chip, but I never seem to get as close as with the MacTech X chipper. I started playing golf in 2020 and I am a 24 hcp. My goal is 15-10 hcp for 2023. The chipper might make that happen. :)
I've been using the Wilson chipper for about 7 years. Will never take it out of my bag.
Would a better comparison for this shot be testing the chipper vs an 8 or 9 iron? It could be the chipper or it could be chipping with less loft. I know amateurs typically grab the most lofted club and perhaps you and Mark have made videos previously about bump and running it but that seems to be all that’s happening here. Less loft and getting the ball running sooner tends to give more consistent results. I don’t think people need a new club just an ego check. 👍
Agreed! It would be more comparable to a bump-and-run club
Can't wait for the course vlog!
Another great video. Thanks chaps. I had the previous generation odyssey chipper for a few seasons. Bifs were really bad and a dime a dozen. It was good for 10ft or less shots from the fringe or green side rough. I sunk a few. Anything further away from the hole than that I would get more accuracy and better consistency from a stick with a rock tied to it. The face was so hard at impact. I think they need a putter insert in it. I traded that thing in for a box of titleist and a summer shandy. I recently found an Adam's chipper at a resale sports shop. The face is really hot. With the right touch my results are really good with that one. I find that a chipper is the right club in the right scenario just as you guys mentioned. Looking forward to the ping chipr because it has aggressive grooves for spin. Leave it to Ping.
I'd love to see the chippers compared to say, 7i or 9i with the same swing; it seemed that the low bump and runs that Mark was hitting with his chipper looked like the old-school 7i low bumps into the hillside. The wedge, hitting it higher and having it land soft is a completely different shot.
The difference is the extra weighting low, very wide sole, and upright lie angle make it basically impossible to duff. I was decent at grabbing an iron, pointing the toe down for an upright lie and taking a putter swing to get it on the green when close, but the chipper is just so much easier, and usable from further away from the green than that method.
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@@matthewdenlinger5475 there was a season I used the 8 irons for everything just about. Same concept essentially. I used a chipper about 20 years ago on shots just off the green, the club performed well. But, it is one more club of 14. Chippers r good. Just not the route I am going.
In my opinion the idea of a chipper is (aside from the obvious) to maybe take a club out of the bag that you struggle with (in my case the 60 degree). Comparing it to a 7, 8 or 9 iron doesn't make sense to me as you wouldn't take them out of the bag. I understand why you would want to see the comparison but the results would generally be the same, people who can't chip with a wedge or iron would get one of these. I've just ordered the Cleveland one because I'm sick of duffing my chips, I don't have time to practice or get lessons.
@@christopherwatson4730 I may purchase a chipper. I really enjoyed 8 iron chipping. The drawback for using 8 or 7 r 2 fold for me. One, I get a lot of spin which is confusing to judge, second the clubs r too long and too flat. I guess those r 3 reasons. I have gotten really good at chipping 56 degree 📜. But I think the application of chippers r unique accurate and low risk. If I have to take a 4 iron out the bag, so be it.
I have bought a chipper
I love the child-like giggles, where it's like, we shouldn't like it, but we do. keep making great videos!
Coach says “I just like that I don’t have to think” 😅 I know the feeling
Can you compare Rinky vs. Chippy Mark? The idea being to save a club. Both have the flat bottom to help anti-duff. The nice thing about the chipper would be putter length and softer feel/insert over a Hybrid, I just don't like giving up a club as irrational as that is especially if a chipper helps more with strokes gained in a round.
Mark looking like a lad at a festival the Happy Mondays are headlining 😂
Significantly more accurate with the chipper in terms of start line and target for both of you guys. Most of the bump balls were with the chipper.
I just wonder if this could be accomplished with an 8 iron.
I am one putting much more often with my "Crossywedge". It's a no brainer for me. I think it is "better" in some situations, and equal more often than I dreamed. It's not like I'm taking all the lofted wedges out of my bag. Choose the one that's best situationally. For me, and I assume most amateurs, the directional control is definitely better - for you guys, that's not an issue.
I use a Ray Cook. The shaft is more upright allowing you to stand closer to the ball. Bevelled and heavier clubhead. Deadly accurate. I hit the flagstick at least once a round. Like chipping with any club, you have to practice a method that works for you.
I’d love to try a chipper..my only hesitation is that most of the greens in my area are usually elevated
Just a thought, would the chipper be easier to hit than the lob out of the rough or the fringe of the green
I have both types of chippers. Problem is that they don't come with instructions. Do you do anything different when you use them? They haven't remained in my bag. I played my first two rounds of the year last weekend with the type Mark has. I need more practice with it.
Use them like a putter. A lot more upright than a standard wedge shot. Definitely need some practice with them though
Quick question: looking at the low/forward trajectory of the chipper which makes the ball land in front of the Green and then run close to the flag, would you not get a very similar result with a 6iron bump and run?
@@gordonwood1594 agreed but the issue would stay the same between using a chipper or a 6iron
I bought the Cleveland....it has a little more loft than the Oddessey does and I like that it pops up a little better.
my issue would be losing the spot in my bag: the chipper aint gonna help from ae bunker, nor am I likely to use it from 115yds. However, what if there was a compromise? I had an odd idea: what if I swapped my 9i for a SGI super wide soled PW (I'm assuming here that it would be the same loft as my current 9i) and had that at the same loft and lie as my current 9i. It would then be a fantastic all purpose club around the green with which I could still hit at stock 150 shot and maybe even a 140 yd knock down.
The chipper looks very similar to chipping with a 9-7 iron or is it that much easier to strike? Bump and runs are as easy as they come
Most golfers should have a chipper…the traditional wedge is usually a technique issue
I got an old Dunlop chipper from a thrift store 5 years ago and have been using one ever since, I upgraded a couple years ago to a putter length and lie angle from Powerbilt at 32°
I play off 3 handicap but my chipping is not good. I bought a Cleveland chipper before the season and it is saving my 2/3 shots a round. Toooo much ego in golf. Buy the club's that will do the job .
Am testing out a Chipper in my bag this week and wanted the Cleveland Chipper but could not get one here in Ireland so managed to find another one, Spalding SP Chipper, for a fraction of the price that looks pretty similar to the Cleveland. Up to recently I've been using my hybrid for bump and run shots where I'm not confident with a wedge, and hoping the chipper with a shorter shaft will work just as well, if not better than the hybrid which can be awkward to use with its longer shaft.
I use a 56 Sure Out 2 if I am in the bunker or need to get a hop over something, and I use a 45 mazel for anything inside 100 yards that can be bumped , I have the chip yips with wedges and it ruins my fun.
I have a 9 hybrid 37 degrees I use as a chipper and living in the desert (Las Vegas) you need a rock club so you don't mess up your irons it works great for both
I've an Acer XR chipper 37° but I've never used it. Will give it a go this year
Apparently USGA and R&A don't see chippers as illegal so why not. The only regulations is the chipper cannot be a two-way or be fitted with a putter grip.
I bought my Crossy chipper about 3 days before y'all put out your video on them. I had a decent short game before I got it but now its much better. I think it not only has to do with the chipper but with the confidence I have in it. By the way, I'm an old geezer so nobody laughs when I pull it out and one of my buddy's ordered one himself!
Why not use your hybrid? How much different is it?
Can you do that test next?
Thanks 🙏🏻.
Yes I would and I do! Smart Sole Chipper. Had it for a couple years now it gets a ton of use. I feel very confident with it in my hand standing over the ball. I even use it from 40-50 yds out. It’s amazing.
Mark in a bucket hat? Yeah baby!!!
These are no longer available from Callaway, what’s up with that?
I think you can get them just very low stocks
What club do you remove from your bag to add the chipper?
If you get good gapping with your clubs you will be able to find a space for the chipper. My gap wedge has gone from my set so now go PW (46), 51 degree, 58 degree
I had an old hybrid 3 lying around, shortened the shaft to length of a wedge, and using it as a DIY chipper. Works like a charm. And I can give it a good swing as well :-)
So, may I ask why you would use a chipper and not choke down on a hybrid ???
37° chipper versus 52° wedge, all things being equal, one would have to generate more ball speed to move the ball hit with the 52° club than the 37° club. So a bladed miss hit wedge shot will naturally end further away from the hole - head to head the average golfer (me) would be much better off chipping with a chipper than wedge. But if you play by the 14-club max rule, which club do you take out of your bag to gain a chipper? Chances are you've already reduced the number of fairway woods you once carried to add an extra wedge or two. And you've likely already reduced the number of irons to accommodate a hybrid or two. I prefer my friend's response - forget about the 14-club rule and carry 22 clubs. The only downside is he has to hire a Sherpa to get his clubs from the car to the cart barn. ;). Great video, Coach! And that other guy, too, who looks like you just plucked him out of the line at Disneyland.
The answer you're looking for is to space out your irons in loft. 2 yrs ago I switched to the following lofts (PW,9,8,7,6,5) -> (47,42,37,32,28,24) - this covers the very traditional 47-degree PW to 24-degree 4-iron in 1 less club. You then add a 22/21 hybrid, (old 3-iron loft), and then either a 5w or 3H at 19/18 degrees. You can then choose to carry a 3 or 4 wood - can also replace the 4H with a 7wood if you want. On the wedge side, since your PW is 47-degrees, a 52/53 and then 58/59/60 is a perfect 2 wedge setup (Tiger does this as he uses a 48-degree PW). My iron lofts produce carries of (133,146,159,172,185,195). My 21-degree hybrid is 205 and my 18-degree hybrid is 215. My 52 wedge is 118 so I need an 80% PW shot to give me a 125 distance which I don't find to be a problem. I add 1/2" to my 60, which I bend to 59, so I can cover 100 Yards on a full swing if I need it. I don't carry a chipper, so I have 2 other clubs that I choose from depending on the course I'm playing - either another wedge or usually a 2H at 15-degrees which I use as a fade tee club on tight holes
@@wallstreetoneil thanks for a very thoughtful response. I will certainly consider this if/when I change out my bag. I turned 70 yrs old this year and still hitting stiff shafts. Currently recovering from my second (and final😁) total knee replacement so could be in need for a change soon. ;)
@@davidolmstead9694 I set up my parent's bags and this is what I've done for them given their now slower swing speed: Cleveland 58/52 CBX2 wedges - both mom & dad carry chippers - my father finally accepted it last year - he now loves it. Then they both carry 4 irons (PW, 9, 8, 7). Then 7&6 hybrids, 9wood, 5wood (all Ping), Driver for my father and 7hybrid, 7wood Driver for my mother - thus my dad carries 13 clubs & mother carries 11 - Dad shoots 88-92 and mother 96-102. Getting much lighter graphite shafts in the hybrids made a huge difference in their games.
@@wallstreetoneil thanks again!
Yep, I put one in the bag a few months ago and love it.
Definitely a great option in the winter and I use it up to about 75 yards, I suspect in the summer it might not be as effective, but like everything in golf will depend on the situation.
Obviously despite the joking you and Mark are skilled players so I suspect the benefits are less obvious.
There’s more definitely more control and spin from a wedge, but the lack of duffs is such a relief, it’s a no brainer for me.
Just keep it quiet though, don’t want everyone at my club getting one!!!
I agree. Put some high handicappers on this test and I'm sure the chipper will win almost every time.
Love to see the chipper making an appearance in the coaches bag! Bring back the magic hands
Another superb vid guys you are both so likeable - best and most enjoyable golf content on YT 👍🏆
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
I had an X Act chipper, older version than yours and it’s really good. I got rid of it because I got terrorised for using it. Ive been toying with getting another but I’ve got no room in my bag anymore
I’m a 5-6 handicapper. Always struggled with chipping but just can’t bring myself to use one of these even though I know I would score better. But to see PGA pros trying and recommending the chipper it has changed my mind. Bring on making the game as easy as possible.
I put one in my bag after marks first video. It definitely has advantages! Haven't taken out a club. If I had to I would take out my 54 in replacement. I have practiced very little with it but I am usually always long and get to see the break of the putt coming back and the ball always has a chance to go in
I think the added pressure of course play is not to be dismissed. Rolling 6 foot putts in on the practice green is like shelling peas. Totally different under the pressure of actual play. I believe you both will see gains from the on course situations.
I will not, I prefer to have an extra wedge to tighten the gapping within scoring range, but I can see it being useful for golfers that have difficulty chipping around the green.
Got the Ping Chipr (new one that’s been out a year). Less of a risky club but I still need to practice with it - I get spin off it which can be unpredictable
I still have my Chipper in the garage, I’ve resisted putting it in the bag for a few years. I use an 8 iron for those sort of shots. I do how ever use a Cleveland smart sole 56 wedge, which I would recommend 👍
"I want to be that good without having to have magic"......absolutely tickled me ! lmao
Bought the Ping Chip R soon as it was released, what a game changer ! Tried the Odyssey didn't like it bit clumsy looking for me
Can't believe you've gone this route. I think ill wait and see how successfull you are with it over a season, if it stays in the bag that long!
As a subscriber this might seem to be treachery, but Mark's style of chipper is the more versatile than the putting style.
The only downside to Mark's iron like model is that it is not adjustable.
If you are a cheapskate - I speak from experience - get a kid's 7 or 8 iron - try to find a forged version from the 1980s or 1970s. Usually these are comically oversized and do not have any bounce. Put an adult's grip - you can use this to chip out of sand, mud, Dubai rough or carpet. The trajectory will be much lower than a 64 and the only thing to fear is the thin (and even this will not go too far).
And yes it is much better than the equivalent chip and run club because the miss margin is so much bigger (assuming do not have mad skills like Coach or Seve and carry a 2 iron that you chip with)
I'm curious how chippers hold up on heavily undulating greens. I chip with anything from 7 iron to my 64 degree lob wedge depending on the slant of the green and distance.
Used my Cleveland chipper 4 times this weekend. 3 up and downs and a chip-in. Ridiculously good.
Just the fact that Marks went passed the hole means they had a chance of dropping in and I like that with my chipper and yes you don’t have to think about it…..👍. The funny thing is I talked my mates out of using chippers a few years ago! 😂
I use a CLEVELAND SMART SOLE CHIPPER, & love the control I CAN get with it. Nice thing is the club let's YOU decide if you want to let it get over the fringe, and roll to pin or slow it down by landing on the fringe...
Why does Mark look like Kevin from "Kevin and Perry go large" 🤣
Just picked up a Cleveland chipper on eBay because of these recent videos. Can’t wait to try it! I’ve always struggled with shots around the green.
Saves 5 shots a round if you know how to use it.
The smart sole 2.0c has been in my bag since it came out. It is my go to club for pretty much ever shot up to 70 yards. It will need to be ripped from my cold dead hand.
Funny! 😁
Well Coach, I'd try one for sure, especially if I could properly test it w/o buying one. My 56 has magic in her, but I suck with a Texas wedge and the chipper seems good for that situation. Maybe I should practice more....hmmmm.
I have the odyssey 😂
Sorry Coach, I would get one but if I do its going to be the Cleveland. I am sorry to say but the "putter" chipper just isn't cool. Best way I can describe this, I want one and probably need one but I dont want people to be able to see I have one. And realistically they are probably similar price point right?
I like the look of the Cleveland, had one that looked like a putter before and it performed great.
I’d be curious to see if you’d be any better with a chipper than an 8 or 9 iron in the same circumstance. If it’s gonna take up a spot in the bag, it better be worth it.
I’d wager that there wouldn’t be enough of a performance difference to warrant putting it in the bag. Could be wrong though.
I love my Cleveland chipper, even from 40 yards it’s fantastic
Don’t make me start looking at chippers PLEASE!!! My wife complains I spend too much on golf as it is! LOL Keep up the great content mates! Cheers from the US!
You could just use a hybrid or a 9 iron if you have a tough lye ...Hate to give up a club just for a chipper.
Waiting for Mark to send my chipper...don't be greedy bruh...help a fellow dad out! Ha
It’s funny, got a Cleveland chipper a few weeks ago. Honeymoon period, hit a lot of good shots with it, like most around 6 foot with a couple of tap ins. But I missed every 6 foot putt. I took it out one more time, horrible results from bad technique. Old flaws creeping back in. Back to my old bag set up, don’t really have room for it. Maybe later…
How come your chipper's stay so low even though they look like they've got a decent amount of loft on them? 58 would scare me so I'd use a PW or 8 iron! Fun video 👍