How Tesla Wants You to Charge Your Car in 2023
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- Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2020
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Here’s what they explicitly recommend for all Teslas outside of that most recent Chinese model as of late 2020.
*Maintain a regular, every-day charging routine using a low-voltage charger.
*Only rely on high voltage (ie Supercharging) when necessary
*Whenever possible, don’t let battery above 90 percent or below 20 percent state of charge.
*Whenever possible, store your vehicle in warmer temperatures
*Whenever possible remain plugged in when vehicle is not in use
and lastly which I found really interesting was
* Do not use third party equipment, or third party mobile apps which collect data and reduce range and battery lifespan
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What if I'm only driving 20 miles a day, should i be charging every night ? Or every other night?
Same here. I only charge my car when it hit 20% or less to 90%. So, I charge my every 4 days.
Honestly we get lazy and don’t charge every night and plug back in around 50% and take it up to 70% once a week or so.
However, Tesla recommends always leaving it plugged in because that will keep it from the minor gradual discharge that takes place. Every single discharge leads to a small contribution towards cycling your battery and after a while your car is better off remaining at 70% than dropping to 50% before it charges back up to 70.
Again, impacts will be negligible long term but there will be some impacts. Depends how much you care to hassle yourself for a potential 2-5% of degradation you might stave off after 10 years.
@@johnco781 Same unless I know I'll need it the next day. When it's below zero though I will make 40% the bar to cross to plug it in.
@@johnco781 And what is the result in the range miles as a consequence of your charging habit?
Things are nutty in this Covid world, where many owners with commutes are now working from home. The best advice is the Tesla bromide " a plugged in Tesla is a happy Tesla", meaning, keep it plugged in and the car/mothership will figure it out.
Kim, thank you so much. We also have a M3 and an X, I’ve been charging them upto 60% and letting them get as low as 30% before charging and I haven’t been charging nightly. I’ve changed those parameters now and will see how my range changes.
Driving a lot less during COVID so hadn’t worried about keeping both at 80% or greater.
Lesson learned
Kim, this video is why you are hands-down the best youtube channel for Tesla related info. I've searched a lot online, different Tesla sites, and looked at a ton of other youtube videos on this topic, but this is the best. It's clear that you did your research.
Thanks Kim! Have had my Model 3 SR+ two months now, still charging to 80 percent every night, may do some experimenting. Hope you and your family are doing well! Always looking forward to more!
I've always loved how you seem to try to produce content that's a little bit different from many other channels that I subscribe to; often with an educational bent. 👍
I'm at 295 after 22k miles. Northern winters are a big hit.
Charge to 70-80% summer and 85-90 winter
I appreciate you taking the time to talk about this. I often wondered about this.
We got our Model 3 in May of 2019. I was originally charging to 90%, but after a few months decided to change to 80%, no real reason, I just didn’t need the extra range. I haven’t seen an issue, but your mention about doing a full charge to 100% so it does a recalibrate is interesting. I’m going to do this the next time we do a longer drive. I actually only ever used a supercharger one time. Also I don’t recall ever going below 70% state charge.
Thank you!
BMW suggests for my i3 (94Ah) to always fully charge the battery. Been doing this for 3 years and 42.000km an so far no problems. Still getting the same range as when the car was new.
Great info, I am so glad to hear from you again. Your ability to address needed/interesting topics is outstanding. Other sites have gone to stock eval every week....
Wow, thank you for giving me the time to rearrange my sock drawer.
Great video, thanks for the tips. I've been following the 70%-80% charging 'rule' thinking "less is better." But I'll be sure to do a full charge periodically from now on.
Terrific video backed by research and the actual Tesla stance! So many misconceptions and arguments out there among Tesla owners with everyone thinking they are a battery savant.
Good vid and info! I tend to charge to 65-70% nightly for a commute of 120 miles both ways. Never have worries.
Great video as always! Would you do a video on the best tips for driving in the winter? And a video on does pre-heating your vehicle make a difference as you still have little braking Regen even after preheating your vehicle?
I’ve always charged my BMW i3 to 100% every night for the last 3+ years. I have not noticed a drop in daily average range yet. And I have over 50k miles on the car already
That's because you are using more and more of your buffer
Thanks so much for the video. I appreciate you taking the time to give great information and good chunks of info. This will help a lot of people. You are impacting the many
Hi Kim! Thank you so much for all of this very useful information! It was great to see another one of your awesome Tesla videos.
My wife’s Kia e-Niro stays within 80%- 20% daily with a rapid charge and a 100% charge every couple of weeks. Battery health after 20k still at 100% as per battery report.
Leave mine at 50% since Covid with no calibration issues. 60% before that. Still getting 311 miles of 325 miles on my LR Model 3 w/ 24,000 miles.
Thanks Kim! Excellent video and as always very informative. Good to see you again and keep up the good work.
I love this. I’ve been wondering how they balance if they aren’t fully charged and the answer looks like they don’t.. this goes for laptops too. Some newer laptops allow you to not charge fully but I wonder if they balance also. Interesting topic!
I keep mine plugged in in the garage (120V outlet - I don't drive much so that's fine for me), with the limit set to 90% for daily driving. If I'm preparing for a roadtrip, I will use scheduled depature and set it to 100% the night before. But only for a roadtrip.
This review was...GREAT! Thanks for the feedback and advice about Tesla battery charging 👍
I do 90% too and fully charged it hits 313 I have LR RWD
Great to see another informative and timely vid from you. The updated info on the new manual, and support page is helpful.
Glad to see you got your M3 range back, but I would not follow the advice to charge above 90% for the older MS cars. Fans and pumps come on at above 78%.
For these cars, I believe calibration is adequate with occasional use from 70-30% SoC. 37k miles, still 266 out of 270 RM
Great video, nice informative infographics.
Also fyi the made in Berlin model y will debut with the structural 4680 cell-pack, along with the single piece front&rear cast frame parts. Teratx will also go this way. And plaid model s. So it's obvious the whole model line up will use the form factor. Just with different chemistry for the cells themselves. Based on performance and range.
Great video Kim! Thanks for the insight! Keep it up. Also, great lighting and video quality. Spot on!
Hey Kim! We’re getting a model Y but since we’re not driving till we’ll into next year would you say wait for the new larger cells and two piece manufacturing before buying? Seeing as we don’t need it now we are super ok with waiting. Definitely didn’t want to buy a new car that would sit in the driveway and depreciate most of the first year we had it, lol.
Wow, thx for the video I didn’t know they could do that to the battery pack, this has happened to my car. I get 289 now instead of 322 🤦🏻♂️(M3PD+)
Hi Kim, great info, but I still think you only correcting BMS information not the actual battery, there is overwhelming evidence to keep the battery in the middle ranges (40-70%) is the best. You can always do the calibration.
Thank god!! Needed another video from you!!
Great video about battery charging
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Thanks Kim, as always great video. With regards to charging on occasion to 100%, does Tesla recommend it during extreme winter conditions? Or it doesnt matter?
Very good, balance of right context, solid research and approachable delivery for mix crowd! ;)
Great video! There's a lot of confusion out there on this subject. Thanks for helping to clear things up. 👍
Sounds like a good bit of confusion on Tesla's side, too.
Have a 100D which I have to charge between 150 to 200 miles. 2 yrs old and 30k miles.
How/what procedure to re-calibrate the pack. I’m have the same issue on 2020 model 3 performance, only 270 miles rang full charge.
I've bought my Model y as a company car and will be doing around 30,000 miles a year so supercharging is kind of essential. Will be interesting to see how the battery holds up. Anyone else done this / have recommendations,?
Are all these (updated) procedures failsafe, for older S and X models also, or no?
Tried this after your original video. I’ll have to try again.
I usually charge my model 3 sr between 40% and 80% everyday. at least once a week to 90ish%
I have never taken it to 100% yet
it is cold here in Nova Scotia which affects my range due to battery chemisty
every once in awhile i see jeff dahn around town lol
is it ok to use FLO DC fast charging occasionally for trips?
Thank you Kim, very helpful!
Kim so good to here from you and you must be so busy with the family. I save your first battery RUclips and have shared it with others. I will do the same with this one. Thanks a lot.
Really appreciate this content and it seems I have been doing it wrong.
How do you recalibrate your Tesla. I have not drive. My Tesla model 3 often ever since Covid-19 started. Even before that I have not put many miles on her.
How did you recalibrate your battery?
Pushing past my biases, I found your video to be very informative. I am still confused on how to reduce degradation of my battery pack, but I have probably been charging incorrectly for the past 18 months; as I have been using Level II charging, which is probably increasing the battery pack degradation. I don't have a garage, and don't charge nightly. I've seen about a 12% battery degradation so far.
Unknown if this will void the warranty, which is my biggest concern; as Tesla has said they would replace a battery pack that has degraded to 70% or more. Anyway, I should follow these guidelines and protect the battery pack from further degradation.
How do you display the range over the battery charge display?
Kim I have the same Nikola doll
Nice to see you back!
Information filled. Loved it!
Thank you for this excellent video, I had it completely backward for my model Y. I do have one stupid question is 90 percent that the top of the daily line on the display? Thanks in advance.
I answered my question so simple to do like most things with the tesla
It's fascinating how many people doubt the Boss🙂
It’s looking like Tesla’s LiFePO4 (LFP) technology gives a better specification battery than many would have us believe. I wonder if LFP will be used in 4680 format.
I too charge to 70-80% daily. Good call on the 100% calibration every couple of months. I will do that today. It’s been awhile.
How did you get Tesla to recalibrate the battery? Do we just call support and they do it over the air?
Love this and I ended up learning from this.
It's common for BMS in battery packs to only enter balance mode over a certain cell voltage. If you dont charge it high enough it won't enter balance mode and the cells will slowly become more unbalanced as you charge/discharge due to small differences in the internal resistance and capacity of cells in the pack.
Fully charging the pack will ensure the packs BMS enters balance mode so it can balance the cells (ensure the cells are all at the same voltage).
I thought I remember reading that to make the pack balance itself, we need to reach at least 90% and not have to reach 100%. True?
@@WilbertIsRandom depends on the BMS. Mine is configurable via an app over Bluetooth. Usually they won't balance below 4.0v or 4.1v (for liion) but it can vary between BMS.
@@CanonFirefly How about for Tesla batteries specifically?
@@WilbertIsRandom not sure, although I think it depends on the firmware in the BMS which might not be the same for all vehicles.
Is the Juice Booster 2 considered third party equipment?
Wow super professionnel and simple video. Gratz!!!! U are in the sweet spot!
Would you consider 50kw charger OK to use every day
Fantastic insight to charging habits and battery health. Thanks!
Thanks for the update!
The issue I have with tesla information is the bms doesn't balance at 90 or 100% charge. The bms does balance the battery while driving and reportedly does this above 50% charge on model 3. I don't see how calabration is the same as battery balancing.
Great topic Kim. I got my first tesla 6 months ago. My new 2018 leaf battery pack failed after just 47k. No fix and no replacement available. So I got a long-range model Y. So nissan wouldn't share anything about why the battery failed, but I do know the leaf battery had no cooling or heater built into it. I don't care because my new model Y absolutely rocks my socks off.
Perhaps your most informative video to date! Well done!
There are always lots of battery range dropping in cold weather, I get that. It occurred to me that range also drops on ICE vehicles. We just don’t just seem to notice that. People often leave them in driveways spewing exhaust for a long time just to get into a warm vehicle. Maybe a goo subject to comment on.
Cold weather actually improves range on ICE vehicles due to the dense air.
@@Unsmooth_Edwarda its actually the opposite. Firstly the gasoline is diluted a bit so you’re paying more for less gasoline as a whole. Secondly sure the dense air does help, but most gasoline cars aren’t that aerodynamic so above about 35mph, they lose all the added benefit of dense air. Thirdly, in the cold ICE vehicles tend to use higher revs to warm up when accelerating, and people just leave their cars started on the driveway so they have a warm vehicle to enter. Batteries actually like the cold, and last much longer in cold than warm. But, battery chemistry slows down, which causes the drop in range. Most EVs have the option to warm up the cabin from your phone and so that will also increase the battery temp for full regen and full range, so long as its plugged into the wall. So overall both technologies struggle in that department and you only notice a drop in range for EV when on a trip. In winter you almost never do long road trips so for everyday commuting, there’s more than enough range.
How about if you have the 2018 model 3
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How to preheat the car for a drive in the winter?
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This video helped me alot thank u so much
thank you for the information, good video quality
“Maintain a regular, everyday charging routine using a low-voltage charger”. Does that mean using a regular outlet is better than a level 2 charger? Was planning on installing the Tesla charger at my home. Thank you in advance.
Level 2 charger still means a low-voltage charger.
I charge mine to 11. It’s one more than 10.
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Thank god!! Another video yes!! I love it.
Hmm, what’s recommended now especially with covid I’m working from home and not driving at all.
I've done quarterly 100% charges but it's been a lot longer lately since I don't drive as much. I been not charging as much too. Sooooo, I'm due for a complete rebalance. I keep the display to percentage anyway. Lithium Iron Phosphate is much more a durable chemistry, soon the dry cathode tech that had been introduced at Battery Day will be better as it won't crystalize like the wet jellyroll types.
With a 2024 model x, should we still charge nightly to 90% nightly? Or still at 80% nightly?
Amazing and concise info! Thank you!
Excellent presentation and very well researched and presented. I like the new nine cents comments but you pass along to everyone.
Great information! Thanks!
Very informative video. I'd be interested in what you know about Tesla vampire drain. It's surprising to see a Model Y drain up to 10%/day, even when the temperature is mild.
Sentry mode is the most likely reason. You don't need it on all the time.
I drive my model 3 daily for like 5-10kms, would it still make sense to charge daily?
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I will charge my phone to 100% once a week. Thanks Kim :)
I keep my phone between 20-80% and it is 9 years old on the first battery. For a phone 100% this is a really bad idea as it has a cheap battery management system and a battery chemistry to optimise charge over long life - in a Tesla it has a very complex management system with a different battery chemistry.
I have a Nissan Leaf I have charged to 100% several times a day for 3 years. No degradation in battery. I leave home with full charge every time.
Leaf has a significant upper buffer. Tesla has very little, will charge to 4.18 VPC
Not for my 3 Leafs, 2011, 2014, 2017 models. Charged only once per day or less, DCFC once a week. All degraded pretty bad. Nice northern California climate.
@@sitechca70 My Leaf has never done DCFC. Doesn't support it.
My original 2019 model 3 mileage is down from 240 to 208. Battery life sucks in winter and takes over an hour to charge last 10 miles at supercharging stations. Only issue i have.
Just wondering, I just got my 2021 Model Y. I drive around 80 - 100 miles a week. I usually just charge once a week, should I charge every day to about 95%?
Both of our Model 3s now only show 279-286 miles at 100% SOC. I took my car in and they said to charge it to 90% every day... I already did. Then they said to let it drop below 20% and sit for 12 hours, plug in, charge to 90% and sit another 12 hours. Did that. No change. Then they said to fluctuate what percentage I charge to on a regular basis. Did that and it’s still made no change. So I don’t know if I’ve actually lost around 10% of my pack capacity or if it’s a BMS issue. A bit annoying
[[*Whenever possible remain plugged in when vehicle is not in use]]
But this applies only to winter time doesn't it? As it shows under the winter time section.
The car drains its battery when parked. If plugged in and charged to the set limit, the battery is not in charge/discharge mode, which increases its lifespan. Of course, this is must for winter time. This is my understanding.
So Kim, I have a model 3 long range built this past June of this year. So if I understood you, I shouldn’t do anything different then i have been since i got it? I charge it to 90%. Only time i charged it to 100% is when I travel from the northeast to Florida.
I’ve had my LR M3 for a year now. I charge it once a week from 15-20% to 90% at Tesla Supercharger (Urban 72kW) since I live in a condo and the Supercharger is across the street. I haven’t charged it with anything else all this time. Also, when driving Miami-Orlando, which is 3x a year, I charge it to 100%. So far, I have not noticed any degradation. 🤞 it stays that way and my charging habits are not wrong.
Isn’t it wiser to use a battery hard so it may give up before the warranty ends and get a free replacement?
Interesting, usually the way we calibrate any device with a battery is draining the battery until the device wont start, then charge it without turning it on until 100%. Then turn on the device. The reason being, usually with cellphones when you drain the battery, the OS records the lowest level measured, then when turned on, it records the highest level as well, thus giving the device OS the min-max values to represent the battery level correctly. I don't know how this "calibration" will work on a Tesla without draining the battery before changing to 100%.
Thanks! Great content. Unfortunately, living in colder climate means battery degradation will be a reality; car sits in cold weather while I'm at work. Down to 296ish miles of range. Will be interesting to see if there is less/no degradation this winter d/t working from home/car not sitting in the cold for 8 hours a day...
So what’s best every night 90% or 80% ?
Interesting video. What if we drive lets say 20 miles a day especially during the pandemic.
Should we charge back to 90% every night or should we let it go down as much as possible then charge?
I would say charge it every night to 90% and to keep the car plugged in as much as possible, or you could charge throughout the weekend when maybe rates will be lower. It really doesn’t matter, just do whats more convenient for you!
Great information. Thanks for posting.
So just to confirm, does this recommended charging methods applicable across all the model range or just the Model 3/Y with its new battery type?
Across all, minus the Chinese M3 which can charge to 100% nightly.