The Dancing aside this is my favorite Jane Austin Adaptation. Northanger Abbey is the only Jane Austin Book that i read from beginning to end. I prefer the writings of Charlotte Brontè. This series is great fun i know nothing about dancing let alone historic dances but i find it very interesting. I love you're videos. Thank you
You may not realise that the Lower Rooms in Bath regularly put on an 'Anna Regina' session, between 1797 and 1801, on Thursdays, at which dance tunes (supposedly) from the reign of Queen Anne were mostly given. (Cf. Jobson and Przewalski, 'A History of Entertainment at Bath', Aquae Sulis Press, 1992).
This is my favorite Austen adaptation, mostly for how accessible it makes the material for modern audiences who DON'T have a good idea of historically accurate manners/dancing/courtship/dress etc. and how well it adapts the material into such a short movie, but interesting to know how much of the dancing was actually outdated!
There is no music when they were shooting, because of the dialogs, the music is added later. Thwy are just doing the steps and saying their parts. maybe that's the problem
Thomas Wilson was a Regency dancing master who wrote extensive dance manuals, and is therefore beloved of dance scholars. You can read most of his books as online scans.
I love hearing about Regency dancing! We've heard from you what bad dancing there is in various films and dance groups. But please show us, not just describe what the proper steps are in regency dancing! Are there perhaps two videos of the same dance you can point to, one where the proper steps are being done, and one where they aren't? Are the internet resources for learning proper Regency dance steps?
Watching Bridgerton has got me thinking about the dances in the series. I always wonder how people knew all the choreography. Did they practice for years before they attended the balls?
for English mazurka read: FOR EUROPEAN/ POLISH SOCIAL BALLROOM DANCES: POLONAISE AND MAZURKA ESSAYS, VIDEOS AND INSTRUCTIONS: GO TO THE INTERNET AND SEARCH FOR: ACADEMIA.EDU………..RAYMOND CWIEKA TO VIEW THE VIDEOS PASTE THE VIDEO - WORD - ESSAY TO A WORD DOCUMENT AND THEN CLICK & PRESS THE CTRL KEY ON THE VIDEO. ORIGINALLY THERE WERE SOME 49 BOOKS AND ESSAYS OF MINE.
I like Carey Mulligan in this one as well, she does steal the scenes. I am so surprised to find out all the inaccuracies. Do you have more videos about what the correct music would be? You played 2 examples in the introduction video but I liked neither of them and would love to know more songs that would be acceptable. I am not sure what you mean by footwork and how to imagine it well executed
Alas! I had planned to do a video on footwork, but then the pandemic hit, and I just don't have room to record in my tiny apartment. Someday, though! So basically what I meant about the music is no Baroque or Renaissance music for dancing. Popular dance music was Irish and Scottish folk music along with some pop tunes of the day. Occasionally older songs pop up, but they're always folk song/jig-and-reel type songs rather than classical Bach-and-Handel type. I hope that helps. I might have my talented spouse do a fiddle cover of some of the music styles.
I found the character of Isabella annoying from the start. I much prefer Catherine. I do have to say though that I was surprised that Carey Mulligan played Isabella, having seen her in the newest P&P and thinking she looked like a completely different person. I'm wondering, though, does the time period of a music composition mean it would not have been used at other times? Of course we listen to classics today but would the dancing songs have only been modern numbers?
Excellent question! So the answer is that they listen to older classical music at a concert, they wanted to dance to contemporary music. There were a handful of tunes that remained popular, but they were extremely rare and tended to be more on the folksy end of the spectrum than the baroque classical end. They didn't really have a sense of retro/vintage cool the way we do, and the idea of preserving folk tradition didn't really evolve until the late 1800s and early 1900s. We know what tunes were popular because people wrote them in their diaries and letters, including Jane herself, and we also have newspaper accounts from assembly balls in cities like London, Manchester, Edinburgh, and Dublin and fashionable towns like Bath, Weymouth, and Brighton. There were also booklets of popular country dance tunes and figures published by several different publishers every year. Popular tunes and figures got reprinted and unpopular ones did not, so we have a fairly decent knowledge of what dances were actually being danced. That being said, country villages were always a bit old-fashioned compared to London, but we're talking maybe 5-10 years tops, so no dances from 100 years before. In addition even for tunes that continued to be danced like "Sir Roger de Coverley" the figures would be totally different. As I said, though, it's a great question!
Hi, I have a somewhat outside the topic question that I haven't been able to find by for myself. Maybe you know as you have studded dance history. Do you know when the dance that we call the Viennese Wals was born and started be danced in pairs around the floor, please? I'm a Pro-Am dancer (I'm the Am) and I have this idea of taking a lot of inspiration from that particular time for my next competition dress, if that is possible. Than you. Yours Ann
Hi Ann! This is a very good question. For clarification, by "Viennese Waltz," are you referring to the very fast turning waltz meant to be danced to Strauss et al? Or is this just referring to a turning waltz at any tempo? It's hard for me to answer because the historical terminology is different from what you use in modern competition ballroom dancing.
@@teawithcassiane8431 Hi, I was mainly asking about the fast moving waltz Strauss father and son was celebrated for, or at least is celebrated for. In my ears it sounds like its in 6/8 rhythm and danced in a half turn per bar. The slower waltz in ballroom, we call English Waltz in my country, and to me that one sounds like a 3/4, and is danced in a basic quarter turn per bar. It can be made oh so much more complicated if one's Pro gets bored or want you to progress faster than you you think you can, but he knows you can with enough hard work. I actually don't know which dance was first to get danced as a couples dance. I'm pretty sure that the waltzes both are older than tango, foxtrot and quick-step, but please correct me if I'm wrong. My thinking is that I would like to reference the fashion of the era we connect with the birth of ballroom dancing in my next competition gown, if that is possible. The competition dresses need to be formfitting, made from a lot of compression elastics, stretch (polyester, but i might revolt against that) georgette, Swarovski crystals and sparkly trim, so it might not work, but I would like to at least try. Thank you. Yours, Ann
Ok, I thought so. The fast style of Viennese waltz - from what I understand - really started getting popular in the 1840s and 1850s, though it started evolving a little earlier. Hope that helps!
@@teawithcassiane8431 Hi, Thank you so much. That was exactly what I was hoping for. I apologize in advance because I have another question that is just for my curiosity's sake. I was reading about the Victorian Ball in Bath later this year and they said that the dances would be called, so that is wouldn't matter if you didn't know how to dance Victorian. I remember you saying that you are a dance caller in one of your other videos. Is the caller's job to call out the next figure like in American Square Dancing and if it is, would you need a caller for pair dancing in the really late Victorian and the early Edwardian years? I know that I might be testing your patience so please don't feel oblige to answer. Thank you.
I love this series and I really love that 1995 p&p is winning.
The Dancing aside this is my favorite Jane Austin Adaptation. Northanger Abbey is the only Jane Austin Book that i read from beginning to end. I prefer the writings of Charlotte Brontè. This series is great fun i know nothing about dancing let alone historic dances but i find it very interesting. I love you're videos. Thank you
Aaaaa you look so cool here! I know nothing about dancing, and very little about Jane Austen, but I'm just so enthralled by this series!!
You may not realise that the Lower Rooms in Bath regularly put on an 'Anna Regina' session, between 1797 and 1801, on Thursdays, at which dance tunes (supposedly) from the reign of Queen Anne were mostly given. (Cf. Jobson and Przewalski, 'A History of Entertainment at Bath', Aquae Sulis Press, 1992).
Love your series! I would love to see your take on the accuracy of the dancing in Sense and Sensibility as well!
Thanks for video, i started worrying that you won't make any new videos, glad you are back!!!
This is my favorite Austen adaptation, mostly for how accessible it makes the material for modern audiences who DON'T have a good idea of historically accurate manners/dancing/courtship/dress etc. and how well it adapts the material into such a short movie, but interesting to know how much of the dancing was actually outdated!
I love this series so much! Thanks for another great video!
Clear, informative and entertaining. Well done.
There is no music when they were shooting, because of the dialogs, the music is added later. Thwy are just doing the steps and saying their parts. maybe that's the problem
Why does 8:44 make me feel like there's some deep well of discourse that I'm not privy to? I love it.
Thomas Wilson was a Regency dancing master who wrote extensive dance manuals, and is therefore beloved of dance scholars. You can read most of his books as online scans.
I love hearing about Regency dancing! We've heard from you what bad dancing there is in various films and dance groups. But please show us, not just describe what the proper steps are in regency dancing! Are there perhaps two videos of the same dance you can point to, one where the proper steps are being done, and one where they aren't? Are the internet resources for learning proper Regency dance steps?
Yes! This link has demos of all the steps. I'll be linking am example of how they're used after this. www.regencydances.org/steps.php
Here's a great video of Paine's First Set Quadrille with proper footwork.
Watching Bridgerton has got me thinking about the dances in the series. I always wonder how people knew all the choreography. Did they practice for years before they attended the balls?
Another problem with "My Lord Byron's Maggot" is none of those figures shown are in the dance.
That too!
Whoa that scene is not in the version i have. Tf
for English mazurka read: FOR EUROPEAN/ POLISH SOCIAL BALLROOM DANCES: POLONAISE AND MAZURKA ESSAYS, VIDEOS AND INSTRUCTIONS: GO TO THE INTERNET AND SEARCH FOR: ACADEMIA.EDU………..RAYMOND CWIEKA
TO VIEW THE VIDEOS PASTE THE VIDEO - WORD - ESSAY TO A WORD
DOCUMENT AND THEN CLICK & PRESS THE CTRL KEY ON THE VIDEO.
ORIGINALLY THERE WERE SOME 49 BOOKS AND ESSAYS OF MINE.
You crack me up.
Would people typically bathe before attending a dance?
I love the shirt and vest u look amazing 😍
I like Carey Mulligan in this one as well, she does steal the scenes. I am so surprised to find out all the inaccuracies. Do you have more videos about what the correct music would be? You played 2 examples in the introduction video but I liked neither of them and would love to know more songs that would be acceptable. I am not sure what you mean by footwork and how to imagine it well executed
Alas! I had planned to do a video on footwork, but then the pandemic hit, and I just don't have room to record in my tiny apartment. Someday, though!
So basically what I meant about the music is no Baroque or Renaissance music for dancing. Popular dance music was Irish and Scottish folk music along with some pop tunes of the day. Occasionally older songs pop up, but they're always folk song/jig-and-reel type songs rather than classical Bach-and-Handel type. I hope that helps. I might have my talented spouse do a fiddle cover of some of the music styles.
I found the character of Isabella annoying from the start. I much prefer Catherine. I do have to say though that I was surprised that Carey Mulligan played Isabella, having seen her in the newest P&P and thinking she looked like a completely different person. I'm wondering, though, does the time period of a music composition mean it would not have been used at other times? Of course we listen to classics today but would the dancing songs have only been modern numbers?
Excellent question! So the answer is that they listen to older classical music at a concert, they wanted to dance to contemporary music. There were a handful of tunes that remained popular, but they were extremely rare and tended to be more on the folksy end of the spectrum than the baroque classical end. They didn't really have a sense of retro/vintage cool the way we do, and the idea of preserving folk tradition didn't really evolve until the late 1800s and early 1900s. We know what tunes were popular because people wrote them in their diaries and letters, including Jane herself, and we also have newspaper accounts from assembly balls in cities like London, Manchester, Edinburgh, and Dublin and fashionable towns like Bath, Weymouth, and Brighton. There were also booklets of popular country dance tunes and figures published by several different publishers every year. Popular tunes and figures got reprinted and unpopular ones did not, so we have a fairly decent knowledge of what dances were actually being danced.
That being said, country villages were always a bit old-fashioned compared to London, but we're talking maybe 5-10 years tops, so no dances from 100 years before.
In addition even for tunes that continued to be danced like "Sir Roger de Coverley" the figures would be totally different.
As I said, though, it's a great question!
Hi, I have a somewhat outside the topic question that I haven't been able to find by for myself. Maybe you know as you have studded dance history. Do you know when the dance that we call the Viennese Wals was born and started be danced in pairs around the floor, please? I'm a Pro-Am dancer (I'm the Am) and I have this idea of taking a lot of inspiration from that particular time for my next competition dress, if that is possible. Than you. Yours Ann
Hi Ann! This is a very good question. For clarification, by "Viennese Waltz," are you referring to the very fast turning waltz meant to be danced to Strauss et al? Or is this just referring to a turning waltz at any tempo? It's hard for me to answer because the historical terminology is different from what you use in modern competition ballroom dancing.
@@teawithcassiane8431 Hi, I was mainly asking about the fast moving waltz Strauss father and son was celebrated for, or at least is celebrated for. In my ears it sounds like its in 6/8 rhythm and danced in a half turn per bar. The slower waltz in ballroom, we call English Waltz in my country, and to me that one sounds like a 3/4, and is danced in a basic quarter turn per bar. It can be made oh so much more complicated if one's Pro gets bored or want you to progress faster than you you think you can, but he knows you can with enough hard work.
I actually don't know which dance was first to get danced as a couples dance. I'm pretty sure that the waltzes both are older than tango, foxtrot and quick-step, but please correct me if I'm wrong.
My thinking is that I would like to reference the fashion of the era we connect with the birth of ballroom dancing in my next competition gown, if that is possible. The competition dresses need to be formfitting, made from a lot of compression elastics, stretch (polyester, but i might revolt against that) georgette, Swarovski crystals and sparkly trim, so it might not work, but I would like to at least try. Thank you. Yours, Ann
Ok, I thought so. The fast style of Viennese waltz - from what I understand - really started getting popular in the 1840s and 1850s, though it started evolving a little earlier. Hope that helps!
@@teawithcassiane8431 Hi, Thank you so much. That was exactly what I was hoping for. I apologize in advance because I have another question that is just for my curiosity's sake. I was reading about the Victorian Ball in Bath later this year and they said that the dances would be called, so that is wouldn't matter if you didn't know how to dance Victorian. I remember you saying that you are a dance caller in one of your other videos. Is the caller's job to call out the next figure like in American Square Dancing and if it is, would you need a caller for pair dancing in the really late Victorian and the early Edwardian years? I know that I might be testing your patience so please don't feel oblige to answer. Thank you.
1- Will you be doing Emma (2020)? I would love to see that one
2- you look and sound incredibly dreamily attractive in this video 😍😍
Oh never mind, I just saw you have done Emma! Amazing, I will go and watch
Oh wow! Thanks! Apparently I need to do more androgenous goth looks (which sounds great to me)!