Thanks for the great video . Your focal points are massively helpful. Your very generous sharing your knowledge. After 1 year back after a 20 year layoff from straight pool this is getting me in the right direction. In the 70s and 80s the knowledge was never shared. A player still has to put the work in, but with help like this it won't be time wasted. Thanks again.
Surprised at how often he 1) shoots combinations; 2) must resort to an elevated bridge to shoot over balls, and 3) is left with long, difficult first shots after drawing so far up-table on break shots. But his concentration, pace and shot-making is supernatural... any of the above three “irregularities” tend to throw guys with much more precise position, but Schmidt takes it in stride and has a seemingly unshakable *don’t miss* discipline. Fantastic documentation of an incredible run.
This is the best instruction you can find on straight pool. What a remarkable run. If you can take lesson from John, you will have made a good decision for your game.
It's cool to see that you put this up on youtube Dennis. I bought it years ago and I'm sure by now people have forgotten all about it, but it's an amazing feat and more people should see it.
Wow! Only 10 minutes in, but have to say Schmidt makes it look easy and great fun to watch. Mosconi, Butera and Mizerak were also fun to watch because they didn't take three minutes to select a shot, or re-rack the balls five times to get it "just right," or engage in any of the other nonsense that makes some modern straight pool matches painful to watch (and I truly love this game -- it hurts me to say that). Although I am not, and will never be, at this level of play, I have enjoyed short moments when it seems the right side of the brain takes over and making shots becomes more a matter of instinct and feel rather than conscious thought and, for a brief time, you get to experience that glorious feeling that you just can't miss. Mr. Schmidt apparently gets to enjoy that for almost two hours. Anyway, have to study the rest of this to find out. Nice work.
well I would assume that this is the same room and camera as the other videos with John and Corey so a better quality would exist. File size would affect upload size as i'm guessing they would literally have to redo it to a larger file size or upload the raw file minus the commentary. Look forward to watching this, thanks for the share.
Good eyes, you are right... John does that often, he doesn't claim foul on himself, he did it with this run, he also did it with his 400+ run, he touched the 7ball while shooting, and god knows what happened in his 600 run, maybe he fouled a couple of times too and nobody called it on him and he did not call it on himself, just like in here.
Back in probably 02 03 John came to Vero Beach Florida and played a friend of mine mark coats 9 ahead 9ball for $1000 and I figured it would take awhile to get through and I remember John he came to the table grabbed the cue ball looked at it then ran his had on the felt and really didn’t take a warm up shot and put on a clinic and the match was over I think a little over an hour lol
I feel that maybe he´s the only guy nowadays who´s able to beat the 526... I´m practising a lot the last 3 weeks and had a 100 run 2 days ago... My 3rd in my career, hope i have my cam with me next time, this video is just priceless to me, also Capelle´s book Play your best straight Pool! Kind regards and thanx so much for this, i watched it 6 times already
+Mainswitch55 Don't break the Legendary Mosconi record 526 straight pool run, that record was never meant to be broken, it's sacred, he who breaks that record will calamity befall.
+crissixstrings Yo Chris6, No one has officially on record beat Mosconis 526, I don't believe Cranfield had a run of 768, I've seen him play on a few videos and he couldn't run a rack of 7 ball out, and has no runs near 100 on video that I've seen, Chris, where did you see his run? is there an article or something?
Skeefoo Panama The videos of him playing are well past his prime. Look up the list of highest straight pool runs. There are forums where some people wrote that they saw Cranfield run hundreds consistently. John mentions beating Cranfield's run in his Accu-stats Player Review of his 171 ball run.
Dennis didn't John upload his 403 a while back? I think someone linked to the video on AZBilliards. It was a run higher than this, the camera was at a different angle and I think it was on a different table as well.
I'm not new to pool, but a little new to 14.1, what I can't figure out is why only the 14 balls you shoot after the break count, and not the 15th ball/break shot each time? That's a ball you are calling and making, so why in the world wouldn't it count? You might say it does count, but if it does, then why does 26 racks of 15 balls plus basically 1 more ball = 391 called shots, but yet his run is only 366? Can someone explain this?
It does count. You just count 14 balls per rack because you always leave one ball on the table at the end of every rack, and you shoot that ball in the next rack. If there's always one ball left on the table at the end of a rack, and there are 15 balls total, then that's 14 balls pocketed in each rack. So 14 balls = one rack. He ran 26 racks. 26*14=364 balls. Then in the 27th rack he pocketed the break ball, then the combination, making it 366 balls. He got bad position off that combination and then missed the next shot.
Efren ran over 200 shortly after learning the game. His friend was explaining the game as they went. He actually quit without missing. He was laughing about how easy the game was. But that's Efren.
Saying that straight pool is easy is non-sense. What exactly is easy? Running 100 in practice? Running 200? Beating John Schmidt in 14.1 world tournament finals? Winning 10 World Tournament in a row? When I hear that a certain game is easy i get mad, it's really non-sense.
If you think of the balls as gears, outside english on the cueball meshes gears smoothly with the object ball. Inside english is counter to the mesh. If the balls aren't perfectly clean, this increases the friction between the balls, and increases the likelihood it will inadvertently throw or "kick" off of the theoretical line. Basically, outside lessens the unpredictability caused by the condition of the balls, and inside increases the variance.
366 balls in a basement, no matter how well it's filmed, has no meaning to the real world. Just the addition of one person could have effected the results. But a hundred spectators, a equally matched opponent, a referee racking the balls, etc. would certainly effect the shots. You must acknowledge that.
Playing the ghost is a time honored test of offensive skill on the pool table in any game. Rack, break, if you miss you lose. This is a great run, regardless of the situation, and as an instructional 14.1 run it definitely matters in the real world.
@@theabhorrentchef7226 No doubt he shoots well . . . But that would be effected by a spectators looking on, playing against another person and playing for some objective (money, title, trophy). Half of a shot is concentration and anxiety. It's just too relaxing of a setting.
One time, I made an off angle combo, and pocketed the last 3 remaining balls in one shot. The next rack I blasted the ball in the side, and the cue ball went 2 rails airborne over the rack, and I caught it. I said to myself, " You're out !"
Last time I saw him I was standing outside the Mad Greek on the way to Vegas' smoking. Thru the window I saw him (not knowing for sure it was him) and made a pool playing gesture and he gave me the slightest nod I have ever seen. Then we talked a while. a great player but really a good person too (i have examples but that's for another comment). . It's not easy to make money gambling AND be a pretty good guy. Get em Smalls.
this is the most advance dialoge and shooting. Most of them spend half the time taking about your bridge, stance and tricks to aiming. I like this video alot. Can't imagine running a hun let alone 2 or 3. And you casually said that Bill could be so much better if he practiced. HeH. Better. Yeah right.
+AngrierGorilla Reply, Thanks. I just set up a few shots using inside English to pull the cue ball back in line for a next shot, the difference is so bad, you have to aim to miss the shot but when it works right you can get stupid amounts of side on the ball, however it could also cost you a match because it's not spot on to judge.
Gene s Hackett you have to get a feel for it, but with inside English if you aim to miss slightly the shot goes in, but yeah it's dangerous and you need to get a feel of how much aim to miss you use.
It increases the difficulty. In straight pool, you want to hit center ball almost every time. Inside is very useful in the right context, but not recommended in 14.1
Yeah right, if your name is John Schmidt you may run 350, if GOD was generous and blessed you with the gift of billiards, that is. Practice helps no doubt, but you have to be blessed with the gift period, that's why good players are pro at 15 years old, practice my ass.
Thanks for the great video . Your focal points are massively helpful. Your very generous sharing your knowledge. After 1 year back after a 20 year layoff from straight pool this is getting me in the right direction. In the 70s and 80s the knowledge was never shared. A player still has to put the work in, but with help like this it won't be time wasted. Thanks again.
The break shots are at 0:03 2:44 5:22 8:01 11:33 15:08 18:49 21:51 25:54 32:17 35:29 38:28 41:52 45:29 54:11 57:53 1:02:44 1:06:27 1:10:21 1:16:41 1:19:59 1:25:14 1:29:43 1:33:11 1:38:08 1:41:45 1:47:23 (26 racks completed) plus 2 balls at the end
Many racks are under 3 minutes including racking.
Good work, Bob.
Surprised at how often he 1) shoots combinations; 2) must resort to an elevated bridge to shoot over balls, and 3) is left with long, difficult first shots after drawing so far up-table on break shots.
But his concentration, pace and shot-making is supernatural... any of the above three “irregularities” tend to throw guys with much more precise position, but Schmidt takes it in stride and has a seemingly unshakable *don’t miss* discipline. Fantastic documentation of an incredible run.
This is the best instruction you can find on straight pool. What a remarkable run. If you can take lesson from John, you will have made a good decision for your game.
One of th best players of this game EVER!! Thx for posting this Masterpiece!
Cool to watch this and listen to John talk about how he hopes to break the world record one day towards the end of the video.
I watched this twice and it's incredible. Thank you so much for posting!
It's cool to see that you put this up on youtube Dennis. I bought it years ago and I'm sure by now people have forgotten all about it, but it's an amazing feat and more people should see it.
great play and commentary, looking forward to trying straight pool, really good for practice.
Wow! Only 10 minutes in, but have to say Schmidt makes it look easy and great fun to watch. Mosconi, Butera and Mizerak were also fun to watch because they didn't take three minutes to select a shot, or re-rack the balls five times to get it "just right," or engage in any of the other nonsense that makes some modern straight pool matches painful to watch (and I truly love this game -- it hurts me to say that). Although I am not, and will never be, at this level of play, I have enjoyed short moments when it seems the right side of the brain takes over and making shots becomes more a matter of instinct and feel rather than conscious thought and, for a brief time, you get to experience that glorious feeling that you just can't miss. Mr. Schmidt apparently gets to enjoy that for almost two hours. Anyway, have to study the rest of this to find out. Nice work.
And having Mr. Schmidt's running explanation of what he is doing and why is priceless. What a great, entertaining and instructive video. Thanks again.
Met John in Marietta Ga , Great Player
Great video, thanks for sharing it.
Like Mainswitch55 said ... "Masterpiece!" Thanks for this great video.
Thanks for the upload!
I wish we had the video of Machine Gun Lou Butera running 150 in 21 minutes or so...he was a colorful guy to watch.
This is awesome thanks guys
well I would assume that this is the same room and camera as the other videos with John and Corey so a better quality would exist. File size would affect upload size as i'm guessing they would literally have to redo it to a larger file size or upload the raw file minus the commentary. Look forward to watching this, thanks for the share.
Thx Dennis! Thx Bill and John! I try put my speed up for big runs ;)
It doesn't really matter how good of a cook you are, there is a secret recipe for running rack after rack.
Hard to be sure at this resolution, but at 1:22:04 John appears to touch the One Ball with his cue shaft. Can anyone verify?
Good eyes, you are right... John does that often, he doesn't claim foul on himself, he did it with this run, he also did it with his 400+ run, he touched the 7ball while shooting, and god knows what happened in his 600 run, maybe he fouled a couple of times too and nobody called it on him and he did not call it on himself, just like in here.
Back in probably 02 03 John came to Vero Beach Florida and played a friend of mine mark coats 9 ahead 9ball for $1000 and I figured it would take awhile to get through and I remember John he came to the table grabbed the cue ball looked at it then ran his had on the felt and really didn’t take a warm up shot and put on a clinic and the match was over I think a little over an hour lol
Seriuosly 240p quality? Thats insane in 2020.
Also the pockets are huge! like really huge :P
I had to add an EQ plugin to my browser to remove the low air rumble frequencies from this vid. Still great stuff.
At 1.33.40 it looked like the upper center pink ball was wired to the upper left corner
He never recorded the 403.
There are many other runs of his, but I am not sure how many have been uploaded. This is the highest.
I feel that maybe he´s the only guy nowadays who´s able to beat the 526...
I´m practising a lot the last 3 weeks and had a 100 run 2 days ago... My 3rd in my career, hope i have my cam with me next time, this video is just priceless to me, also Capelle´s book Play your best straight Pool!
Kind regards and thanx so much for this, i watched it 6 times already
+Mainswitch55
Don't break the Legendary Mosconi record 526 straight pool run, that record was never meant to be broken, it's sacred, he who breaks that record will calamity befall.
Skeefoo Panama A few people have higher unofficial runs. In an accu-stats video, John said he would like to beat Cranfield's unofficial run of 768.
+crissixstrings
Yo Chris6, No one has officially on record beat Mosconis 526, I don't believe Cranfield had a run of 768, I've seen him play on a few videos and he couldn't run a rack of 7 ball out, and has no runs near 100 on video that I've seen, Chris, where did you see his run? is there an article or something?
Skeefoo Panama The videos of him playing are well past his prime. Look up the list of highest straight pool runs. There are forums where some people wrote that they saw Cranfield run hundreds consistently. John mentions beating Cranfield's run in his Accu-stats Player Review of his 171 ball run.
How on earth did that go in at 18:00?!
Dennis didn't John upload his 403 a while back? I think someone linked to the video on AZBilliards. It was a run higher than this, the camera was at a different angle and I think it was on a different table as well.
+DastardlyDaring He never recorded the 403.
There are many other runs of his, but I am not sure how many have been uploaded. This is the highest.
@30:03 thats a friendly pocket 😅 still a great run though, anytime you run a big package its not easy.
Willie M. (609) wish they had cams then...
Willie's official high run was 526. Arthur Cranfield had an unofficial run of 768. John said he would like to beat Cranfield's run.
I'm not new to pool, but a little new to 14.1, what I can't figure out is why only the 14 balls you shoot after the break count, and not the 15th ball/break shot each time? That's a ball you are calling and making, so why in the world wouldn't it count? You might say it does count, but if it does, then why does 26 racks of 15 balls plus basically 1 more ball = 391 called shots, but yet his run is only 366? Can someone explain this?
It does count. You just count 14 balls per rack because you always leave one ball on the table at the end of every rack, and you shoot that ball in the next rack. If there's always one ball left on the table at the end of a rack, and there are 15 balls total, then that's 14 balls pocketed in each rack. So 14 balls = one rack. He ran 26 racks. 26*14=364 balls. Then in the 27th rack he pocketed the break ball, then the combination, making it 366 balls. He got bad position off that combination and then missed the next shot.
What tip does he use ???
Efren ran over 200 shortly after learning the game. His friend was explaining the game as they went. He actually quit without missing. He was laughing about how easy the game was. But that's Efren.
Saying that straight pool is easy is non-sense. What exactly is easy? Running 100 in practice? Running 200? Beating John Schmidt in 14.1 world tournament finals? Winning 10 World Tournament in a row? When I hear that a certain game is easy i get mad, it's really non-sense.
I wonder how many you can run...
i'm curious - what's wrong with inside english?
A lot of players miss when shooting with inside. That's why John said he saw a lot of runs end with inside.
If you think of the balls as gears, outside english on the cueball meshes gears smoothly with the object ball. Inside english is counter to the mesh. If the balls aren't perfectly clean, this increases the friction between the balls, and increases the likelihood it will inadvertently throw or "kick" off of the theoretical line.
Basically, outside lessens the unpredictability caused by the condition of the balls, and inside increases the variance.
Dennis, is this an eight or nine foot table?
nine foot.
Thanks Dennis.
366 balls in a basement, no matter how well it's filmed, has no meaning to the real world. Just the addition of one person could have effected the results. But a hundred spectators, a equally matched opponent, a referee racking the balls, etc. would certainly effect the shots. You must acknowledge that.
Playing the ghost is a time honored test of offensive skill on the pool table in any game. Rack, break, if you miss you lose.
This is a great run, regardless of the situation, and as an instructional 14.1 run it definitely matters in the real world.
@@theabhorrentchef7226 No doubt he shoots well . . . But that would be effected by a spectators looking on, playing against another person and playing for some objective (money, title, trophy). Half of a shot is concentration and anxiety. It's just too relaxing of a setting.
One time, I made an off angle combo, and pocketed the last 3 remaining balls in one shot. The next rack I blasted the ball in the side, and the cue ball went 2 rails airborne over the rack, and I caught it. I said to myself, " You're out !"
lol
Last time I saw him I was standing outside the Mad Greek on the way to Vegas' smoking. Thru the window I saw him (not knowing for sure it was him) and made a pool playing gesture and he gave me the slightest nod I have ever seen. Then we talked a while. a great player but really a good person too (i have examples but that's for another comment). . It's not easy to make money gambling AND be a pretty good guy. Get em Smalls.
Some of those corner pocket shots should not have gone in.
This guy is filthy
this is the most advance dialoge and shooting. Most of them spend half the time taking about your bridge, stance and tricks to aiming.
I like this video alot. Can't imagine running a hun let alone 2 or 3. And you casually said that Bill could be so much better if he practiced. HeH. Better. Yeah right.
I got another golden rule, easy combos trump break up shots.
5" pockets.....
5 1/2 in. Pockets. Nuff said
Boss Boss standard pockets 4 7/8 inches
Korby Waters lol yea right. I watched Corey run 229 on the same table. They are closer to 6
@@whoamifoo9075 there exactly 5 in we can make a7in so you probably couldn't run a hundred though
Why is inside english dangerous to use?
from my experience, with inside english you have to compensate the deflection more than with outside, so the accuracy decreases dramatically.
+AngrierGorilla
Reply, Thanks. I just set up a few shots using inside English to pull the cue ball back in line for a next shot, the difference is so bad, you have to aim to miss the shot but when it works right you can get stupid amounts of side on the ball, however it could also cost you a match because it's not spot on to judge.
Outside english doesn't have to be forced and it creates as he said several times a natural path for 2 to 3 rails.
Gene s Hackett
you have to get a feel for it, but with inside English if you aim to miss slightly the shot goes in, but yeah it's dangerous and you need to get a feel of how much aim to miss you use.
unless you shoot with Predator Z or Mezz WX 900... with these shafts (and some others too) you can aim normally.
why is using inside english not recommended?
It increases the difficulty. In straight pool, you want to hit center ball almost every time. Inside is very useful in the right context, but not recommended in 14.1
When you are hitting pocket speed, inside english can cause the ball to get carried a little, changing the direction they travel. It's pretty risky.
Yeah right, if your name is John Schmidt you may run 350, if GOD was generous and blessed you with the gift of billiards, that is. Practice helps no doubt, but you have to be blessed with the gift period, that's why good players are pro at 15 years old, practice my ass.
When you say practice you probably don't even know what that means.....you've probably never shot 6 hours just by yourself.
@@scottbranson7872 Sir please how can you say this? of course I have.