i wish cute concepts didn’t have such weird undertones sometimes because they’re my favorite kind of concept. i think they’re silly! they can be so fun when they’re not catering to a specific audience
That is why I prefer cute concepts like Red Velvet Russian Roulette, Pentagon Shine, TXT Crown, Blackpink As If Its Your Last and Girls Generation Forever 1 that don’t have weird undertones.
SM taking 95% of the physical sales is sinister doings wtf??? Now I get why these groups be touring like nobody's business cause that's where they DON'T get chump change😭
twice is my ult group and i agree. their voices are my favorite (my biases are jihyo and jeongyeon), and even sometimes jihyo’s belts come out restricted which is hard on the ears. jype forced them to sing cutely for three years straight, so their voices conformed to that concept; now that they are singing more emotional songs, their voices need more depth. i wish they would let the members stick to their strengths in singing, like in cry for me (3mix belting, the rest either singing lower or in falsetto). that is mostly why tzuyu’s solo is a bit unbearable, as her vocal quality does not suit belting at all. notice how good she sounds in the post-chorus (“are you ready to”) compared to the rest of the song because she sings in falsetto instead of belting
If the music is not good, it's still interesting musically (like, the use of chords, the overtones, the strong vocals, the lyrics)... Never a dull moment, really...
Ik this horse has been beat dead on twt but so many people were just like "why" when they saw tzuyu debut trailers. Vocal tone aside, decade of experience aside, she wasn't ready. She's not known for her talent even a little bit, and we all know why. But yeah I've never heard someone say the vocal tones thing and it lowkey opened a third eye because it's SO TRUE misamo debut especially (and a lot of itzy too but them I knew it was the tones)
@@stargirIll NewJeans fans are mostly young women tho it’s just a misconception they have older men at their fanmeet cause they saw one fat person there(who was actually just some obese highschooler) and assume he’s an old man
The twice one is so real though! I've been saying this forever, I get kinda the same thing with Itzy as well... Maybe it's just a jyp thing. (Honorable mention to Boynextdoor, the male equivalent)
Your opinions are respected, but I disagree with the TWICE vocals. I, along with so many love their vocal tones, especially in their concerts. But hey, we all have different taste, don't we. Have a good day!
you also have to remember with Twice was that majority of them were minors when they debuted and had a higher vocal tones made for cuter concepts, just like the members their vocals also matured, leading them to try new concepts and styles of songs to best fit each of the members matured vocals. :)
I disagree with the Twice one, I feel like out of the members besides Nayeon, Jeongyeon and Jihyo, Tzuyu improved the most. About Momo, I think she got used to that tone so much that her vocal skills regressed. Back in 2015-2017, her voice was quite okay and she even had a little bit of vocal support back then. Due to trying to sound like Britney Spears, she lost her "support" and her decent vocals.
I got into kpop because of cute concepts and that has always been my favourite part of kpop compared to other concepts. But whether you like it or not, those weird fans are the ones who spend alot on their idols and thats why idols have to cater to them. Normal fans who don't obsess over their faves wont spend much.
agree on the twice one i thought i was the only one who had to immediately turn down my volume in pain at the start for tzuyus solo like they want she says ‘ruuun run away’ idk i just dont like it. momo should be a rapper, defo not a vocalist
if anything pre 2019 tzuyu vocals were worse she sounded way better in her debut? momo i agree with kinda but its also jype fault they force her to use that nasally tone which some people dislike
i think mina’s voice suited their concept but sana and momo both struggled, i really can’t listen to the start of “don’t touch me” because sana’s voice cracks right off the bat 😭
twice work better as a group, their appeal both on and off stage is how well they work as a group, so this era of mostly very mediocre solos is causing me deep physical distress. they've already been falling off because jyp continues to alienate their audience and now they ALSO want to push 84829482 mid solos? jihyo's was such a disappointment considering her potential, misamo not being called mimosa + that... not very great album was a disservice to them, nayeon kinda ate i must admit but TZUYU? TZUYU debuting with a BALLAD ALBUM.... BEFORE IDK JEONGYEON??? GUILLOTINE.... being a twice fan in 2024 is being in the trenches fr....
I agree with all of these except the Twice thingy. They shouldn't be limited to one concept because you don't like their voices. Their voices are a FAR fetch from bad, you just don't like em, and I get it as everyone has personal taste especially when it comes to music. But as with a lot of things, don't like, don't listen
they’re not bad they’re average, but most of k-pop groups have the same problem (only 2/3 members are true singers) but some people just focus on twice.
Misamo debut was unlistenable for me and my wallet will remain shut for this comeback unfortunately 😔 It's a shame because I was finally really getting into twice around 2022 but they don't have the voices needed for their current sonic direction to work *FOR ME*
These opinions are unpopular for a reason but at least they're genuinely unpopular and not generic dull af 'hot takes' that every other kpop yt channel does Still can't tell half the time if you're being satirical or you're really just like that
@@stargirIll I'm saying 'hot take' videos are usually just common opinions that aren't 'hot' at all This video is actually hot takes but it also makes the creator come off as a b!tch cuz she's unnecessarily cruel and makes idiotic statements. That's typical behavior for this channel tho Is that clearer?
4. Me not having a single album, photo cards, etc, cause I don't like spending money for such things but still being a fan of Kpop groups - BP (as my name suggests), Aespa, Twice, Le sserafim, Kol, Ive. For Twice, I don't care if they are great vocalists or have improved cause what matters is their music - if it sounds good and they can perform it. If all female idols were Ariana Grande typa singers then the fan wars would have been 100 times more, plus the music direction would have been surrounded of hitting high notes and harmonies which would get boring. If the singer sounds good then I don't care whether they are professional singers or not. Look at Camilla Cabello who got hate for being the weakest singer in her group (there are yt videos about it) but then her music is good and the casual listener don't care
But... who cares? Such comments by whose or what standards ? Twice has so many fans and sales that have proven that their singing is accepted by many people, maybe by more people's standards Twice's singing is very good
@@yubincults if you dislike their voices or music that's fine? But "she sounds like a drunk person trying to sing" and it would have been better if someone else sang her song instead bcs of that? That's just icky tbh. No one is forcing you to listen to it. But saying all that about these girls just because you personally dislike their voice tones is wrong. This isn't hate on my part. I just thought it was honestly low.
I kinda agree about Twice's vocals, but they're not bad if you're saying they're "bad" then you probably don't like them or you just don't know them well, Nayeon's abilities are very good and not bad and Jeongyeon's are good, Mina and Chaeyoung are not bad the rest are not singers. The same problem was with gfriend (Yuju/Eunha have vocal abilities) the rest weren't very good, same problem with red velvet and many don't want to admit it but it's the truth Wendy and Seulgi are the only ones who have very good abilities, Joy has a weak voice what distinguishes her is her vocal color, Yeri and Irene can't sing.
You were speaking about the 4 BIG, right ? Because... I mean... S2 with Kiss of Life, HIGH UP with STAYC, WM with OH MY GIRL, MODHAUS with tripleS and ARTMS, DREAMCATCHER.... ??
It's not the artists' fault that the cute concept seems more for p*dos (would say, mostly Korean men), nor is it the fault of the fans who like them because of the music. Kei for example is a legend, also a musical artist. Actually it's for a younger audience. STAYC have it also in their name - Star To A Young Culture - and there is nothing wrong with it and they grew up. Did you check out Metamorphic? This is everything but childish or for p*dos. When they put those idols in dresses who barely cover their butts, then of course you are right (actually I like Saturday because they made fun music but you also watch the videos and then you are wondering). Agree with the kpop fandoms. KIOF might be one of the best but they are still in the making but already that good to be invited everywhere (there was some critism about Natty's cover but it's ok). 1000000% agree with the albums. I mean I also buy sometimes 1 album from each version but mostly it's just the album with the nicest cover. Twice vocals... they improved, also Tzuyu but I see only the holy trinity (Nayeon, Jeongyeon and maybe Jihyo). Tzuyu isn't bad but her voice is not my fav in Twice. I wish Chaeyoung would go solo and can finally SING and not only rap (she has singing parts in Twice songs but not enough). I remember some of her solo stages in the past and it was actually really good. companies and ceos... well, YHS @ Mixnine - horrible, MHJ in the media - horrible, Bang PD (not a CEO but still) - horrible, LSM - horrible and these are only the biggest player in the market. I came to the moment, that I actually like JYP but then I remember his fat shaming complex (Nizi project) or his general sexualization of women.
nobody is blaming the artists nor fans who simply enjoy the music but a lot of cute concepts are made by creative directors who don’t have pure intentions
@@purrrinn111 but why would they sexualize themselves? And are you assuming that there’s JUST men working there? Or are you just blatantly discriminating against them BECAUSE they’re POSSIBLY men.
@@2kvull i didnt assume anything, look up if you want to. teenagers can do and say silly shit just like yeojin years ago said she wanted sexy concept despite not being even 19 yet,, my point is no adult should have let them release such songs with these weird lyrics. its not hate and you should fucking worry about these 14 year old, even if they wrote the lyrics.
@@2kvull im not even hating??? did you read the last part? gosh this is sooo stupid you really dont give a fuck about these teenagers singing an song with clear sexual innuendos. i dont care if they wrote it and you shouldnt too, no sane grown adult would let these girls release a song like this.
i wish cute concepts didn’t have such weird undertones sometimes because they’re my favorite kind of concept. i think they’re silly! they can be so fun when they’re not catering to a specific audience
That is why I prefer cute concepts like Red Velvet Russian Roulette, Pentagon Shine, TXT Crown, Blackpink As If Its Your Last and Girls Generation Forever 1 that don’t have weird undertones.
@@vixxexo6855how do you know those don’t have weird undertones as well?
@@stargirIll well there's no weird lyrics being sung by minors at least
@@vixxexo6855i'm pretty sure, As if it's your last isn't a cute concept
The way mhj literally GROOMED Newjeans to the point that the members can’t live without her is just insane and evil
SM taking 95% of the physical sales is sinister doings wtf???
Now I get why these groups be touring like nobody's business cause that's where they DON'T get chump change😭
twice is my ult group and i agree. their voices are my favorite (my biases are jihyo and jeongyeon), and even sometimes jihyo’s belts come out restricted which is hard on the ears. jype forced them to sing cutely for three years straight, so their voices conformed to that concept; now that they are singing more emotional songs, their voices need more depth. i wish they would let the members stick to their strengths in singing, like in cry for me (3mix belting, the rest either singing lower or in falsetto).
that is mostly why tzuyu’s solo is a bit unbearable, as her vocal quality does not suit belting at all. notice how good she sounds in the post-chorus (“are you ready to”) compared to the rest of the song because she sings in falsetto instead of belting
me too but nayeon is a strong vocal, we cant compare her to taeyeon ofc but her vocal tier is higher among the other members (expect jihyo)
@@gaeulikeyisn’t jihyo top 1 jeongyeon top 2 and nayeon top3 ??
The twice one is kinda jyp fault tbh
Why cute concepts have the best music tho 💔
its true 😭
If the music is not good, it's still interesting musically (like, the use of chords, the overtones, the strong vocals, the lyrics)...
Never a dull moment, really...
No cute concepts often have bad songs. Very few cute songs are good.
@@vixxexo6855 nah, girl crush concepts are the ones that are mostly bad. They often have noisy songs with empty choruses
Ik this horse has been beat dead on twt but so many people were just like "why" when they saw tzuyu debut trailers. Vocal tone aside, decade of experience aside, she wasn't ready. She's not known for her talent even a little bit, and we all know why. But yeah I've never heard someone say the vocal tones thing and it lowkey opened a third eye because it's SO TRUE misamo debut especially (and a lot of itzy too but them I knew it was the tones)
The CEO one is so true, I never understood why nobody highlighted that. It's literal exploitation.
jeongyeon solo when… i need her ailee/spica/boa slay
Fr
she said she doesnt wanna become a soloist and probably wont release solo songs in the future😭 at least until twice disbands
Cute groups fandom is half teenage girls and half gross old men
Newjeans:
@@stargirIll NewJeans fans are mostly young women tho it’s just a misconception they have older men at their fanmeet cause they saw one fat person there(who was actually just some obese highschooler) and assume he’s an old man
@@mala4222Why u keep exclaiming the fact he was bigger? You sound fatphobic
@@mala4222 omg ☠️
@@mala4222WHY IS THIS SO FUNNY TO ME SONDKDKSKSKALA
I love Tzuyu you have a pretty voice don't listen to the haters or maybe do and become the next Dua Lipa
People really need to hear the one about identifying with fandoms on same level as gender, ethnicity, etc, as well as the one about companies and CEOs
sorry, saying Sana sounds better then Nayeon is WILD dont do too much awn herr and they all nasal not just momo like where are our ears goneeee 😬
vocal line pulls it of tho 😘
I agree, Sana is arguably the worst along with Momo
as if nayeon doesnt have a nasal voice too
Sana’s voice is normally too high pitched. Only time I tolerated Sana’s voice was in Don’t Touch when she sounded less high pitched.
@@vixxexo6855 do not touch? Mmm ok 😬
The twice one is so real though! I've been saying this forever, I get kinda the same thing with Itzy as well... Maybe it's just a jyp thing. (Honorable mention to Boynextdoor, the male equivalent)
Your opinions are respected, but I disagree with the TWICE vocals. I, along with so many love their vocal tones, especially in their concerts. But hey, we all have different taste, don't we. Have a good day!
you also have to remember with Twice was that majority of them were minors when they debuted and had a higher vocal tones made for cuter concepts, just like the members their vocals also matured, leading them to try new concepts and styles of songs to best fit each of the members matured vocals. :)
I disagree with the Twice one kind of, but I don't agree with one member singing and the rest not singing
I disagree with the Twice one, I feel like out of the members besides Nayeon, Jeongyeon and Jihyo, Tzuyu improved the most. About Momo, I think she got used to that tone so much that her vocal skills regressed. Back in 2015-2017, her voice was quite okay and she even had a little bit of vocal support back then. Due to trying to sound like Britney Spears, she lost her "support" and her decent vocals.
All because jyp told her to sing like that
OMG, not too much on Nayeon 💔
shes below average for a lead vocalist, she sounds better than she is bc nobody(besides jihyo & jeongyeon) else can sing
cute concept (mostly and even in its fanbase ) is made for men
ive been begging for YEARSSS to get twice vocal caoches or lower the key or SOMETHING
they lowered the key tho and it still sucked
More than half of the twice members have underdeveloped vocals
I got into kpop because of cute concepts and that has always been my favourite part of kpop compared to other concepts.
But whether you like it or not, those weird fans are the ones who spend alot on their idols and thats why idols have to cater to them. Normal fans who don't obsess over their faves wont spend much.
agree on the twice one
i thought i was the only one who had to immediately turn down my volume in pain at the start for tzuyus solo like they want she says ‘ruuun run away’ idk i just dont like it. momo should be a rapper, defo not a vocalist
Please leave rap alone
The last one is very true. I just cant understand why you would still be a Kpop Stan after knowing all of this?
@@lunaris7342 because that’s all music industries. i just listen to the music
The outro is crazy cahsdhasida
if anything pre 2019 tzuyu vocals were worse she sounded way better in her debut? momo i agree with kinda but its also jype fault they force her to use that nasally tone which some people dislike
4:15 i couldn’t listen to misamo’s debut or tzuyu’s debut because of their voices 🫤
jihyo, (kinda) naeyon, and jeongyeon r carrying that group vocally
Misamo was good in my opnion bc Mina and Sana kinda eat sometimes
i think mina’s voice suited their concept but sana and momo both struggled, i really can’t listen to the start of “don’t touch me” because sana’s voice cracks right off the bat 😭
twice work better as a group, their appeal both on and off stage is how well they work as a group, so this era of mostly very mediocre solos is causing me deep physical distress. they've already been falling off because jyp continues to alienate their audience and now they ALSO want to push 84829482 mid solos?
jihyo's was such a disappointment considering her potential, misamo not being called mimosa + that... not very great album was a disservice to them, nayeon kinda ate i must admit but TZUYU? TZUYU debuting with a BALLAD ALBUM.... BEFORE IDK JEONGYEON??? GUILLOTINE....
being a twice fan in 2024 is being in the trenches fr....
Cute concepts are literally the best in kpop, its true though some have weird undertones
Kiof is real
I agree with all of these except the Twice thingy. They shouldn't be limited to one concept because you don't like their voices. Their voices are a FAR fetch from bad, you just don't like em, and I get it as everyone has personal taste especially when it comes to music. But as with a lot of things, don't like, don't listen
they’re not bad they’re average, but most of k-pop groups have the same problem (only 2/3 members are true singers) but some people just focus on twice.
Misamo debut was unlistenable for me and my wallet will remain shut for this comeback unfortunately 😔 It's a shame because I was finally really getting into twice around 2022 but they don't have the voices needed for their current sonic direction to work *FOR ME*
These opinions are unpopular for a reason but at least they're genuinely unpopular and not generic dull af 'hot takes' that every other kpop yt channel does
Still can't tell half the time if you're being satirical or you're really just like that
What are you even talking about lmao
@@stargirIll I'm saying 'hot take' videos are usually just common opinions that aren't 'hot' at all
This video is actually hot takes but it also makes the creator come off as a b!tch cuz she's unnecessarily cruel and makes idiotic statements. That's typical behavior for this channel tho
Is that clearer?
I must admit, Twice's vocals are bad, there are only 3 vocalists who REALLY SING WELL, the rest are the ones who try or stay forever MID
Tzuyu's vocal is extremely autotuned to the point it sounds like hatsune miku AI covers
cute groups fandom are %50 men that are 30-50 , 40% teenage girls and 20% teenage boys
Wow u explained it rlly well
7:22 BROOOOOOOOO NOT WOONGHAO
I would argue that treasure and xikers has great stage presence too and a few other groups in 4th/5th gen
4. Me not having a single album, photo cards, etc, cause I don't like spending money for such things but still being a fan of Kpop groups - BP (as my name suggests), Aespa, Twice, Le sserafim, Kol, Ive.
For Twice, I don't care if they are great vocalists or have improved cause what matters is their music - if it sounds good and they can perform it. If all female idols were Ariana Grande typa singers then the fan wars would have been 100 times more, plus the music direction would have been surrounded of hitting high notes and harmonies which would get boring. If the singer sounds good then I don't care whether they are professional singers or not. Look at Camilla Cabello who got hate for being the weakest singer in her group (there are yt videos about it) but then her music is good and the casual listener don't care
I love both the girl crush and cute concept
harsh but truths. should be said, in any way.
5:48 agree with this so much
thank you for being my voice once again 🙏🏽🙏🏽
what was the first song in the cute songs little cutscene?? i'm always being put on to new songs from ur vids😭
These companies are 100% intentional with thier content undertones
THE INTRO 😭
But... who cares? Such comments by whose or what standards ?
Twice has so many fans and sales that have proven that their singing is accepted by many people, maybe by more people's standards Twice's singing is very good
1:33 who’s the girl with the bunny ears?
kwon eunbi, this clip is from the song door
@@143sznsthank you 🫀
as a momo bias that hurt 😭 otherwise agree
Im sorry but the twice one is straight up hate??
@@chewingonchewy7877 sigh
@@yubincults if you dislike their voices or music that's fine? But "she sounds like a drunk person trying to sing" and it would have been better if someone else sang her song instead bcs of that? That's just icky tbh. No one is forcing you to listen to it. But saying all that about these girls just because you personally dislike their voice tones is wrong.
This isn't hate on my part. I just thought it was honestly low.
I kinda agree about Twice's vocals, but they're not bad if you're saying they're "bad" then you probably don't like them or you just don't know them well, Nayeon's abilities are very good and not bad and Jeongyeon's are good, Mina and Chaeyoung are not bad the rest are not singers. The same problem was with gfriend (Yuju/Eunha have vocal abilities) the rest weren't very good, same problem with red velvet and many don't want to admit it but it's the truth Wendy and Seulgi are the only ones who have very good abilities, Joy has a weak voice what distinguishes her is her vocal color, Yeri and Irene can't sing.
3:28 ATE
You were speaking about the 4 BIG, right ? Because... I mean... S2 with Kiss of Life, HIGH UP with STAYC, WM with OH MY GIRL, MODHAUS with tripleS and ARTMS, DREAMCATCHER.... ??
@@V_OmegA which point are you referring to
in what world does WM treat OMG well
0:51 dia i miss u
It's not the artists' fault that the cute concept seems more for p*dos (would say, mostly Korean men), nor is it the fault of the fans who like them because of the music. Kei for example is a legend, also a musical artist. Actually it's for a younger audience. STAYC have it also in their name - Star To A Young Culture - and there is nothing wrong with it and they grew up. Did you check out Metamorphic? This is everything but childish or for p*dos. When they put those idols in dresses who barely cover their butts, then of course you are right (actually I like Saturday because they made fun music but you also watch the videos and then you are wondering).
Agree with the kpop fandoms.
KIOF might be one of the best but they are still in the making but already that good to be invited everywhere (there was some critism about Natty's cover but it's ok).
1000000% agree with the albums. I mean I also buy sometimes 1 album from each version but mostly it's just the album with the nicest cover.
Twice vocals... they improved, also Tzuyu but I see only the holy trinity (Nayeon, Jeongyeon and maybe Jihyo). Tzuyu isn't bad but her voice is not my fav in Twice. I wish Chaeyoung would go solo and can finally SING and not only rap (she has singing parts in Twice songs but not enough). I remember some of her solo stages in the past and it was actually really good.
companies and ceos... well, YHS @ Mixnine - horrible, MHJ in the media - horrible, Bang PD (not a CEO but still) - horrible, LSM - horrible and these are only the biggest player in the market. I came to the moment, that I actually like JYP but then I remember his fat shaming complex (Nizi project) or his general sexualization of women.
nobody is blaming the artists nor fans who simply enjoy the music but a lot of cute concepts are made by creative directors who don’t have pure intentions
oo love that ur bio mentions jiwoong but may i know what does that mean ? im dvmb sorry 😭
1st opinion 💀
It’s true
Well you spilled facts
5:35 true
All facts I fear
okayyyy
You are no difference from the stans when you have to rely on kpop idols to make your videos.
whatever that means
Ok fr kiss of life the best
nah
….oh
oh hi tzuyu!
@@yubincults omg first time author reply!! i disagree w the twice one but opinions r opinions 💔 i love ur vids otheriwse
Kiss of Life was boring as hell. Now except for this and Twice your opinions are more like facts.
heavy on the kiof one
are these REALLY unpopular opinions?
@@aerojae never
no creo que sea el cute concept hecho para pedófilos, que la gente sexualice esas cosas ya es otro periplo
u just earned a new subscriber by calling out twices terrible vocals (excluding jeongyeon)🤭
1:31 please be aware that members of young posse took part in writing their own lines into heir debut song.
they still work with weird grown men that let them release that shit for an reason..
@@purrrinn111 but why would they sexualize themselves? And are you assuming that there’s JUST men working there? Or are you just blatantly discriminating against them BECAUSE they’re POSSIBLY men.
@@2kvull i didnt assume anything, look up if you want to. teenagers can do and say silly shit just like yeojin years ago said she wanted sexy concept despite not being even 19 yet,, my point is no adult should have let them release such songs with these weird lyrics. its not hate and you should fucking worry about these 14 year old, even if they wrote the lyrics.
@@purrrinn111 it’s weird how you’re hating on a song that is literally talking about macaroni and cheese. There was no sexy concept involved.
@@2kvull im not even hating??? did you read the last part? gosh this is sooo stupid you really dont give a fuck about these teenagers singing an song with clear sexual innuendos. i dont care if they wrote it and you shouldnt too, no sane grown adult would let these girls release a song like this.
2:24 YEHAHHHHHHHHHHHH 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥