ff12 is one of my favorite game's on ps2 i also found other one,s i liked like dark cloud,s#1 #2 both are just challenging enough for me anyway also g-force(where you get to play as a oo7 hamster)is interesting to say the least i think you just got to look yourself and you may find some for yourself happy hunting👋💛🙏(for ps2 system game's)
I never understood how Takahashi and Atlus/Falcom didn't find each other. I look at the SMT/Persona games and think just plug Xenosaga's ideas in this assembly line and Takahashi gets the 6 part series he wants and never has to compromise. Things worked out wonderfully for him (and the li'l Xenogears references in BOTW/TOTK will always be super cool), but it just seems like JRPG history could have been way easier for everyone.
I'm playing FFX as we speak, and couldn't agree more with it's number 1 spot. It's my favourite FF, and in my top 3 favourite games ever. Also yes, I pronounce it Tie-dus, not Tee-dus.
Dark Alliance is one of my wife’s favorite games, along with Super Mario RPG and Lufia 2. I tried to play it with her, but I got clipped into a wall and slaughtered. Never picked it up again.
The most underrated game was rumored to be released for PS2 and stayed On Widows Phones Is Series made by one GUY. Totally in 2D with hundreds of Side quests, campaign as hard as OZMA in FFIX....random encounters ., live events...PvP, raids, guilds.....Rank Standing System...very Deep customization and Crafting...lots of crafting .... Im talking about Dragon Blade And the most refined Dragon Blade 2 FX ( the game in question) Still totally Free with just 2 things you can buy. Sadly it never touched the PS2 because that guy didnt wanted the game to be in 3D ( he really didnt had any plan for a total 2D to 3D conversion).
For a second I thought you were talking about the final fantasy clone Dragon's Blade and all I could think was I hate that guy leaving it on Microsoft phones only. The first one is decent enough but there's definitely room for improvement, which it seems like I won't get to see.
Unlike the RPGs on that list,... Monster Rancher 4 should be on the list for letting you play as the role of a monster breeder/raiser? It lets you be the person to raise monsters and have them fight in tournaments or go on expeditions to find items, etc. There's also an inventory system and stats system just like in almost all RPGs. In the MLB The Show games, you play the role of a baseball player of your choice(or of your own creation) with no real end goals except you can set your own goals, there's no inventory system but there are stats and stat progression mechanics. In some of the PS2 WWE games, you also got to play as the wrestler of your choice as well, albeit the story being scripted and therefore repetitive, but i believe all of the RPGs on your list also have a scripted and repetitive story. And speaking of stories, it's really annoying how in Wild Arms 3, you get to fight the same enemies/bosses over and over again in the story. Also, thanks for suggesting Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter. i wouldn't have known about it otherwise. But lastly, i think everyone should check out MS Saga and Metal Saga. Not trying to be a contrarian, just pointing out other RPGs and RPG-esque games for anyone who's tired/bored with how too many games are so similar with each other.
the issue with MR4 is that its one of the weakest in the franchise. its too focused on the story, and has too many tutorials/forced fights that really killed the pacing. the setting was also another letdown. if anything, i would say 4 wasnt even as good as 3. as for MS Saga, im a massive gundam fan, but that game is so disapointing, extremely grindy, and the combat system is absurdly barebones. it also was too stuck with UC suits, and some random wing suits here and there. that kinda made it feel like there was no diversity. and while the idea of building your custom suit was great, like a proto gundam breaker, it just did not really deliver, since you didnt really get much of a choice, since each suit was basically tiered, and you were kinda forced to swap to the new stuff every new region. they could do so much with that, but really made it as barebones as they could, they banked too much on the gimmick of customizing your suit, but didnt really deliver it as well as they should. also, the story was absurdly generic. and the characters were too bland and one dimensional.
Missing one of my fav JRPG of the PS2. Growlanser: Heritage of War. One of the best world building JRPG with awesome characters and lore but the combat/gameplay could be a little rough for some people.
Blitzball was considered in FFXIV by Naoki Yoshida. It didn't happen but we do have the Ascians. (derived from FF XII mages) They are a blast (literally lol)
Still feel im the only one who didn't care for Wild Arms 3. Everyone use ARMS and magic? What makes everyone different? I loved the magic user-sword user- ARM Then Light ARM-Sword-Heavy ARM-1 mage that can summon- 1 summoner that use magic Sword art hints Light/Heavy ARM parts Crestgraphs I love Wild arms, i don't like feeling everyone blended together. I plan to at least give it another try now i got some time.
I like hearing other peoples' lists. The great thing about other people having an opinion that differs from mine is discovering new experiences I would have otherwise overlooked.
star ocean 3 was kind of a disapointment. specially compared with its rival, tales of the abyss(or pretty much any tales of in that generation outside of legendia). the characters just did not hold up compared to 2(or even 1), and the overall story was also kinda meh. radiata story on the other hand was kinda divisive. its kinda like dark cloud 2, where its a good game no doubt, but it feels incomplete.
Shadow of collosus in (open world genre)GT 4 (racing genre) FF 12 (RPG genre) this is the best graphics ps2 games has in its time. while open world game with lots of task to do is GTA SA, and RE4 for 3rd person shooter genre in PS2's time.
isnt 8 also avaliable on the play/apple store? its a traditonal turn based game, so it shouldnt be that bad to play on a phone. if anything, it might even play better, since you can play on the go.
I only played a few of these: Dark Cloud 2 (and 1), Shadow Hearts Covenant -- I'm actually midway through a new playthrough now, the party is currently in Japan -- Xenosaga 1-3 (and Xenogears besides), and FFX. I started with 7, and did Tactics, 8, 9, X, and X-2. Sadly FF12 is what killed the series for me for many years, it was way too MMO-like for my taste, an utterly foreign gameplay experience that I couldn't figure out and didn't enjoy; never finished the first (tutorial) mission! FF7R hasn't been going smoothly either, I bogged down in Sector Seven and set the game aside.
i absolutely HATED shadow hearts. could not stand the QTE battle system. to this day, i dont think i have dropped a jrpg as fast as i did that game. it was an instant NOPE, for me. the funny thing is, i see ALOT of people complaining about action rpgs, and square doing more action today, but to me, i will take action over QTE turn based every single time. the only case of a jrpg that uses qte that i could actually stand, and even really liked, was vagrant story, the crit thing with squall in ff8 and the overdrives in ffx.
one thing I do hate about the ps2's lifespan is how much QTE stuff ps2 games did.I have learned to despise QTEs although I still like Legend of Dragoon, which feels like QTE as a combat system tbh. Sure we got the boulder punching moment from RE4, but at what cost?
@@tgcid2018 yeah, im the same. i hate QTE. there are very few games that do QTE right for me. legend of dragoon for example. but i hate how pretty much the vast majority of "western jrpg" NEED to have QTE all over the combat. side note, the boulder punching was from RE5, not 4. 4 had the running from a boulder instead.
Dragon Quarter was robbed. Swap Dragon Quarter with Final Fantasy X and this is a much better list. Swap Kingdom Hearts and Suikoden 3 and it is getting close to perfect.
Suikoden III usually isn't cited as the best of the PS2 titles, that is easily Suikoden V. I would say Suikoden III is talked about a lot though as it is probably the entry the community is most polarized over (unlike Suikoden IV where there is more of a consensus).
I was also surprised with this ranking. I would guess that Suikoden 3 is the more played game. I couldn't find any combined / international sales (at a very quick glance) But Suikoden 3 sold over 2x more copies in Japan than S5 did.
Other than Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance, This is just JRPGs ,So Western RPGs (gams set in medieval european/england type setting) essentially anything after Oblivion.
Before i go on a rant here i just want to say that Suikoden is my all time favorite RPG series! Suikoden 3 was by far the worst of the series in my opinion tho, the whole attack in pairs was stupid, plus being able to easily damage and knockout your entire party with magic all because the guys want to run around the screen and reposition themselves right in your AoE for your spells. The only game in the series where your attack spells can kill you, and half the time you have no control over it becuase the AI is dumb. I dont hate the game, but it is my least favorite for those reasons.
@@stratuvarious8547 right i prefer 1 but 2 was good enough in my opinion. The one with which i have problems is 3(i didn't finish) who is for me to 2 FF X-2 was to X.
Grandia 2 is NOT "more refined" ! And what are you smoking Grandia 2 certainly does NOT have a better story. Grandia 1 is the GOAT hands down - the absolutely superior story , characters and art.
Drakengard is neither an RPG nor a good game XD. It does have an interesting and infamous story line. And it is associated with one the greatest RPG games of all time.(That being Nier Automata). But that in no way makes it worthy of anyone's top 20 games list. XD Maybe a top 20 most interesting yet flawed games. But that's pretty much it. And that's coming from the biggest Drakengard/Nier nerd around. lolz
I sure would like to know where he's getting these games for 'free'🤣🤣 As for Tidus' name, you pronounce Tifa 'Tee-fuh, yes? Not Tie-fuh. So Tidus is pronounced Tee-doos. It's a Japanese game. The Japanese pronounce their I as a long E in English and their U like OO (double o). Just like Rikkus' name is always mispronounced by English speakers. The Japanese R sounds more like a D. You have to touch your toung to the roof of your mouth when pronouncing it.
Am I the only one that hates Final Fantasy X? It ruined Final Fantasy for me and changed the format for the worst going forward in my opinion. Still, other people loved it so I am happy for them at least. I will be playing through Suikoden V soon but really must grab 3 at some point, all I hear is good things.
Im curious to why you hate Final Fantasy X ? Sure it is diffrent from the other final fantasy but the game is great. It was my favorite in the serie until i played XII Zodiac age which has the most fun battle system in any final fantasy game i ever played, not the best story and pretty bland main character but it is unique in many other ways.
Best rpg list that doesn’t have a subjective label doesn’t really imply that’s the case. Could of mentioned this is confined to rpgs they played at the time of review or something.
Before I start the video, if Dark Chronicle is not on this list, delete the video and make it again! Edit: Okay, the video is safe, although it should've been WAY higher! Speeda Golf > Blitzball
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Drakengard is not worth playing. Look up all the spoilers and move on to the Nier series. Sometimes it's okay to call a game what it is: an inventive, frustrating, unfun, bloody mess. (And to be fair, by modern standards, Nier Automata is the only actually good game in the whole DrakeNier universe. Let's just hope it wasn't a fluke.) In fact, hate to be *that* guy, but most of these games are garbo until you get to around 12. The PS1 just had better RPGs, while the PS2 saw Sony focusing on competition, something which they didn't seem to really bother with too much during the PS1 days, which is probably why they had so many great and innovative RPGs.
Just say you don't like video games. It's fine. Not every game has to be a clone of what you personally enjoy. Thank God for that too, because you have awful taste in games. Keep your modern tastes to yourself.
Just because you determined a game to be unpopular in it's time, doesn't make it "great". Congratulations, you know rpg games that aren't Final Fantasy 7. Good for you. Also the fact that you include the word "cultured" in your channel name unironically is a huge red flag lol
I don`t know how u could add Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter on the list coz the game is shitty. Who in their right mind would like to accomulate exp and not use them just do could have half of them when u will die to a boss and start from begginning not to menssion that if u use too much of ur dragon form and get 100% its game over.
Final Fantasy X shouldn't be on the list at all, much less at number one. First actively bad game in the series. Suikoden V would have been a far better representative of its series; SIII is just a mess. Persona 4 is better than 3 in most areas. Props for FFXII, though; that one is badly underappreciated.
Way better than most rpg's on the PS2 though, only games that are equal or greater are the Shadow Hearts and Kingdom Hearts series oh and XII ofc, even though its story was cut heavily.
@@icessoup I can name a slew of PS2 RPGs that are better than FFX. FFXII, Persona 3, Persona 4, Xenosaga trilogy, Suikoden IV, Suikoden V, heck, I'll even rank MS Saga over Final Fantasy X. FFX is a just plain awful game.
the developers actually went on record, it is pronounced "teedus" and NOT "tide us" just accept it. yes i agree "tide us" would make more sense but, it just isnt his name. also that game is over rated.
@@CulturedVultures just my opinion. do you think the intro is necessary at all? people clicking on this video know what they are looking at you don't need to tell me this is going to be a video about ps2 games ...
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ff12 is one of my favorite game's on ps2 i also found other one,s i liked like dark cloud,s#1 #2 both are just challenging enough for me anyway also g-force(where you get to play as a oo7 hamster)is interesting to say the least i think you just got to look yourself and you may find some for yourself happy hunting👋💛🙏(for ps2 system game's)
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I loved shadow hearts covenant so much. Used to play it a lot back in the day
im gonna be honest, i could not stand the combat system of shadow hearts, i HATED the qte disk thing. it was an instant NOPE for me.
FF10 with the dark aeons is one of the best games ever made. A little grindy yeah, but I love the challenge of the super bosses
Top 10 - 20 cliffhanger endings
aw thank you!
@@CulturedVultures no no no no no! Thank you for continue making awesome videos!:)
Growing up with Kingdom Hearts was awesome!
Suikoden 3 is another one I need to replay.
Suikoden 3 is the only one in the series I’ve played. I started off as Chris, which made the last battle very difficult. Highly recommend.
where is Rogue Galaxy?
Shadow Hearts in the thumbnail. You vultures really are cultured.
If anyone is interested in gundam JRPG, MS Saga - A new Dawn is one of the best RPG out there.
Also Reouge Galaxy
i love 12 its much more in-depth and has more secrets than you'll initially realize
I never understood how Takahashi and Atlus/Falcom didn't find each other. I look at the SMT/Persona games and think just plug Xenosaga's ideas in this assembly line and Takahashi gets the 6 part series he wants and never has to compromise. Things worked out wonderfully for him (and the li'l Xenogears references in BOTW/TOTK will always be super cool), but it just seems like JRPG history could have been way easier for everyone.
Persona 3 but no Persona 4? I mean, maybe P3 has the more interesting story, but P4 is still the better game overall.
And Persona 3 over Persona 3 fez, wich is the updated version of persona 3 + extra content. 🤨
That's a subjective opinion.
p4 was way better in every way
I'm playing FFX as we speak, and couldn't agree more with it's number 1 spot. It's my favourite FF, and in my top 3 favourite games ever. Also yes, I pronounce it Tie-dus, not Tee-dus.
I totally use that pronunciation as well.
Great video guys!
Dark Alliance is one of my wife’s favorite games, along with Super Mario RPG and Lufia 2. I tried to play it with her, but I got clipped into a wall and slaughtered. Never picked it up again.
I’ve seen all from 1980-Now the SNES PS1 and PS2 are RPG Juggernauts
The most underrated game was rumored to be released for PS2 and stayed On Widows Phones
Is Series made by one GUY.
Totally in 2D with hundreds of Side quests, campaign as hard as OZMA in FFIX....random encounters ., live events...PvP, raids, guilds.....Rank Standing System...very Deep customization and Crafting...lots of crafting ....
Im talking about
Dragon Blade
And the most refined
Dragon Blade 2 FX ( the game in question)
Still totally Free with just 2 things you can buy.
Sadly it never touched the PS2 because that guy didnt wanted the game to be in 3D ( he really didnt had any plan for a total 2D to 3D conversion).
For a second I thought you were talking about the final fantasy clone Dragon's Blade and all I could think was I hate that guy leaving it on Microsoft phones only. The first one is decent enough but there's definitely room for improvement, which it seems like I won't get to see.
Unlike the RPGs on that list,...
Monster Rancher 4 should be on the list for letting you play as the role of a monster breeder/raiser? It lets you be the person to raise monsters and have them fight in tournaments or go on expeditions to find items, etc. There's also an inventory system and stats system just like in almost all RPGs.
In the MLB The Show games, you play the role of a baseball player of your choice(or of your own creation) with no real end goals except you can set your own goals, there's no inventory system but there are stats and stat progression mechanics.
In some of the PS2 WWE games, you also got to play as the wrestler of your choice as well, albeit the story being scripted and therefore repetitive, but i believe all of the RPGs on your list also have a scripted and repetitive story. And speaking of stories, it's really annoying how in Wild Arms 3, you get to fight the same enemies/bosses over and over again in the story.
Also, thanks for suggesting Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter. i wouldn't have known about it otherwise. But lastly, i think everyone should check out MS Saga and Metal Saga. Not trying to be a contrarian, just pointing out other RPGs and RPG-esque games for anyone who's tired/bored with how too many games are so similar with each other.
the issue with MR4 is that its one of the weakest in the franchise. its too focused on the story, and has too many tutorials/forced fights that really killed the pacing.
the setting was also another letdown.
if anything, i would say 4 wasnt even as good as 3.
as for MS Saga, im a massive gundam fan, but that game is so disapointing, extremely grindy, and the combat system is absurdly barebones. it also was too stuck with UC suits, and some random wing suits here and there. that kinda made it feel like there was no diversity. and while the idea of building your custom suit was great, like a proto gundam breaker, it just did not really deliver, since you didnt really get much of a choice, since each suit was basically tiered, and you were kinda forced to swap to the new stuff every new region.
they could do so much with that, but really made it as barebones as they could, they banked too much on the gimmick of customizing your suit, but didnt really deliver it as well as they should. also, the story was absurdly generic. and the characters were too bland and one dimensional.
Excellent video
Yall didnt mention that Shadow Hearts is a spin-off from the PS1 game Koudelka. 😅
Missing one of my fav JRPG of the PS2. Growlanser: Heritage of War.
One of the best world building JRPG with awesome characters and lore but the combat/gameplay could be a little rough for some people.
Blitzball was considered in FFXIV by Naoki Yoshida. It didn't happen but we do have the Ascians. (derived from FF XII mages) They are a blast (literally lol)
i am playing dragon quest 11 now and you inspired me to buy 8
Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance should be on the list!
DA2 is a huge improvement though
Echoing comments on Rogue Galaxy, but the Gust line up should be represented. Mana Khemia 1 and 2 are outstanding.
Still feel im the only one who didn't care for Wild Arms 3. Everyone use ARMS and magic? What makes everyone different? I loved the magic user-sword user- ARM
Then
Light ARM-Sword-Heavy ARM-1 mage that can summon- 1 summoner that use magic
Sword art hints
Light/Heavy ARM parts
Crestgraphs
I love Wild arms, i don't like feeling everyone blended together. I plan to at least give it another try now i got some time.
What about Arc The Lad: Twilight of the Spirits? That game defined my childhood aside from Final Fantasy. I wish they could remake it 😢
I like hearing other peoples' lists. The great thing about other people having an opinion that differs from mine is discovering new experiences I would have otherwise overlooked.
Really, how did Star Ocean 3 and Radiata Stories miss the list?
star ocean 3 was kind of a disapointment. specially compared with its rival, tales of the abyss(or pretty much any tales of in that generation outside of legendia). the characters just did not hold up compared to 2(or even 1), and the overall story was also kinda meh.
radiata story on the other hand was kinda divisive. its kinda like dark cloud 2, where its a good game no doubt, but it feels incomplete.
Shadow of collosus in (open world genre)GT 4 (racing genre) FF 12 (RPG genre) this is the best graphics ps2 games has in its time. while open world game with lots of task to do is GTA SA, and RE4 for 3rd person shooter genre in PS2's time.
Putting Persona 3 over SMT 3 Nocturne in ranking is a sin.
Dude where is summoner?
I'm just gonna add Champions of Norrath, and Champions Return to Arms.
I need to get my hands on a copy of DQ VIII one of these damn days.
Should have spoken up sooner, I sent my copy to another RUclipsr.
@@pharmcat8484 Daaaaaaamn. That's okay. I appreciate it though.
isnt 8 also avaliable on the play/apple store? its a traditonal turn based game, so it shouldnt be that bad to play on a phone. if anything, it might even play better, since you can play on the go.
Aw where is Star Ocean 3?
I can't see rating nocturne anything other than 1
No Rogue Galaxy is a crime and an automatic dislike from me.
It’s such a shame that Dark Cloud 1+2 aren’t on the Switch. DARN YOU SONY!!!!!
They’re available on PlayStation Network
Such amazing games.
So glad Persona is Free 👅
I only played a few of these: Dark Cloud 2 (and 1), Shadow Hearts Covenant -- I'm actually midway through a new playthrough now, the party is currently in Japan -- Xenosaga 1-3 (and Xenogears besides), and FFX. I started with 7, and did Tactics, 8, 9, X, and X-2. Sadly FF12 is what killed the series for me for many years, it was way too MMO-like for my taste, an utterly foreign gameplay experience that I couldn't figure out and didn't enjoy; never finished the first (tutorial) mission! FF7R hasn't been going smoothly either, I bogged down in Sector Seven and set the game aside.
i absolutely HATED shadow hearts. could not stand the QTE battle system. to this day, i dont think i have dropped a jrpg as fast as i did that game. it was an instant NOPE, for me. the funny thing is, i see ALOT of people complaining about action rpgs, and square doing more action today, but to me, i will take action over QTE turn based every single time.
the only case of a jrpg that uses qte that i could actually stand, and even really liked, was vagrant story, the crit thing with squall in ff8 and the overdrives in ffx.
one thing I do hate about the ps2's lifespan is how much QTE stuff ps2 games did.I have learned to despise QTEs although I still like Legend of Dragoon, which feels like QTE as a combat system tbh. Sure we got the boulder punching moment from RE4, but at what cost?
@@tgcid2018 yeah, im the same. i hate QTE. there are very few games that do QTE right for me. legend of dragoon for example. but i hate how pretty much the vast majority of "western jrpg" NEED to have QTE all over the combat.
side note, the boulder punching was from RE5, not 4. 4 had the running from a boulder instead.
I remember Loving the s*** out of Persona 3. It was one of my favorite RPGs of all time
Once again Stella Deus: Gate of Eternity gets unreasonably snubbed. A great TRPG with great art and a compelling story.
Dragon Quarter was robbed. Swap Dragon Quarter with Final Fantasy X and this is a much better list. Swap Kingdom Hearts and Suikoden 3 and it is getting close to perfect.
This must be a troll video.
What about Darkest Faerie!
i pronounce it tide us too.... where is star ocean til the end of time ? why is it not here?
Suikoden III usually isn't cited as the best of the PS2 titles, that is easily Suikoden V. I would say Suikoden III is talked about a lot though as it is probably the entry the community is most polarized over (unlike Suikoden IV where there is more of a consensus).
I was also surprised with this ranking. I would guess that Suikoden 3 is the more played game. I couldn't find any combined / international sales (at a very quick glance) But Suikoden 3 sold over 2x more copies in Japan than S5 did.
Suikoden 3 wasn't released in Europe, I never even knew it existed until years later at the tail end of the ps2 era.
So we're choosing persona 3 over persona 4 🤔
What about final fantasy X?
Edit: sorry i wrote that after watching up to number 18
Other than Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance, This is just JRPGs ,So Western RPGs (gams set in medieval european/england type setting) essentially anything after Oblivion.
Summoner is the most egregious omission from this list in terms of Western-developed RPGs.
I thought Xenosaga was supposed to have originally been 5 games?
6 actually
Before i go on a rant here i just want to say that Suikoden is my all time favorite RPG series! Suikoden 3 was by far the worst of the series in my opinion tho, the whole attack in pairs was stupid, plus being able to easily damage and knockout your entire party with magic all because the guys want to run around the screen and reposition themselves right in your AoE for your spells. The only game in the series where your attack spells can kill you, and half the time you have no control over it becuase the AI is dumb. I dont hate the game, but it is my least favorite for those reasons.
Agreed. Should have put Suikoden 5 instead.
No Shadow Hearts, No Tales of Legendia, No Persona 4, and No Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2, are you sure you played RPGs on the PS2?
we didn't want the same four franchises popping up constantly 🤷boring
I think shadow hearts was in the video dude
@@Fleshlight_Reviewer The sequel was, not the original, which I like better, the tone was darker, less goofy humor.
@@stratuvarious8547 right i prefer 1 but 2 was good enough in my opinion. The one with which i have problems is 3(i didn't finish) who is for me to 2 FF X-2 was to X.
LETS GO FF12 MENTIONED
Damn no Jade Cocoon 2, shame
this is what current gen is missing. only 3 or 4 good RPGs... I wont even get an Xbox anything because its all FPS, which I don't like.
Just call him T-Dubs
Wrong wrong wrong wrong. Sunkoden 5 better than all. Period. Then suikoden 2.
Grandia 2 is NOT "more refined" ! And what are you smoking Grandia 2 certainly does NOT have a better story. Grandia 1 is the GOAT hands down - the absolutely superior story , characters and art.
Uhhhhh-byss... lol, that was it. 🤪
Radiata stories, rouge galaxy, and the .hack games were amazing ps2 titles that didn't make this list.....
Yeah I cant take this seriously because you didnt even put SO3 on here. What a joke.
psst who's blitzed me balls
15:21 😂
Drakengard is neither an RPG nor a good game XD. It does have an interesting and infamous story line. And it is associated with one the greatest RPG games of all time.(That being Nier Automata). But that in no way makes it worthy of anyone's top 20 games list. XD Maybe a top 20 most interesting yet flawed games. But that's pretty much it. And that's coming from the biggest Drakengard/Nier nerd around. lolz
I sure would like to know where he's getting these games for 'free'🤣🤣 As for Tidus' name, you pronounce Tifa 'Tee-fuh, yes? Not Tie-fuh. So Tidus is pronounced Tee-doos. It's a Japanese game. The Japanese pronounce their I as a long E in English and their U like OO (double o). Just like Rikkus' name is always mispronounced by English speakers. The Japanese R sounds more like a D. You have to touch your toung to the roof of your mouth when pronouncing it.
There's a reason everyone hates the Duolingo bird
@@CulturedVultures Guess ignorance is bliss. Sad to see what RUclips has become. Ignorance following ignorance 😢
I count Onimusha 4 as an action rpg and it shames me it's not here.
Am I the only one that hates Final Fantasy X? It ruined Final Fantasy for me and changed the format for the worst going forward in my opinion. Still, other people loved it so I am happy for them at least. I will be playing through Suikoden V soon but really must grab 3 at some point, all I hear is good things.
Dont play the ones after that then lol
@@icessoup Oh I don't intend to. I am quite happy enjoying my nostalgia glasses on the old ones lol.
Im curious to why you hate Final Fantasy X ? Sure it is diffrent from the other final fantasy but the game is great. It was my favorite in the serie until i played XII Zodiac age which has the most fun battle system in any final fantasy game i ever played, not the best story and pretty bland main character but it is unique in many other ways.
He probably doesn't understand or can't comprehend FFX storyline@@hemmy8645
You are the only one who hates FFX.
So you rank quite a few bad games here, like dragon quarter, and you don’t even include Star Ocean 3, that should be in the top 5
Was that Til the End of Time? Because that’s the only one I’ve played and I loved it.
Glad I browsed the comments before committing to the video. No Star Ocean TTEOT no Frank watching video. Job done.
People can only talk about games they played. Even I haven't played everything.
Best rpg list that doesn’t have a subjective label doesn’t really imply that’s the case. Could of mentioned this is confined to rpgs they played at the time of review or something.
@@frankbrodie5168 i remember seing commentaries about it being one of the worst of the series. It isn't the case ?
Before I start the video, if Dark Chronicle is not on this list, delete the video and make it again!
Edit: Okay, the video is safe, although it should've been WAY higher!
Speeda Golf > Blitzball
FF12 is absolutely my favourite FF game
final fantasy X being at the top sums up the ps2 rpg era. Flashy but shallow.
Dark cloud 2 was WAAAAAY too high on this list. That game is stupid underrated.
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no Star ocean till the end of time? really?
Psst... Who's blitzed me balls?!
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Lol Final Fantasy VIII >>>>> all over 7, anyway meh list.
The Last Jedi slander
Drakengard is not worth playing. Look up all the spoilers and move on to the Nier series. Sometimes it's okay to call a game what it is: an inventive, frustrating, unfun, bloody mess. (And to be fair, by modern standards, Nier Automata is the only actually good game in the whole DrakeNier universe. Let's just hope it wasn't a fluke.)
In fact, hate to be *that* guy, but most of these games are garbo until you get to around 12. The PS1 just had better RPGs, while the PS2 saw Sony focusing on competition, something which they didn't seem to really bother with too much during the PS1 days, which is probably why they had so many great and innovative RPGs.
Just say you don't like video games. It's fine. Not every game has to be a clone of what you personally enjoy. Thank God for that too, because you have awful taste in games. Keep your modern tastes to yourself.
Just because you determined a game to be unpopular in it's time, doesn't make it "great". Congratulations, you know rpg games that aren't Final Fantasy 7. Good for you. Also the fact that you include the word "cultured" in your channel name unironically is a huge red flag lol
hey sweetie when you say "rpg games" you're saying role-playing game...games
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Tidus is Tedius.
I don`t know how u could add Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter on the list coz the game is shitty. Who in their right mind would like to accomulate exp and not use them just do could have half of them when u will die to a boss and start from begginning not to menssion that if u use too much of ur dragon form and get 100% its game over.
I hated FFX so much.
I just can't with the story and I reallh hate Tidus.
Usually love your videos but this time you've included a few dodgy ones this go around 😢
I wouldn't call 1/4 of these RPGs. They're more like dungeon crawlers
which are role-playing games
@@CulturedVultures about as much as platformers are, yeah
Damn these games are all the same...ether whack things with a sword or control party that takes turns whacking and blasting things.
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Final Fantasy X shouldn't be on the list at all, much less at number one. First actively bad game in the series. Suikoden V would have been a far better representative of its series; SIII is just a mess. Persona 4 is better than 3 in most areas. Props for FFXII, though; that one is badly underappreciated.
Way better than most rpg's on the PS2 though, only games that are equal or greater are the Shadow Hearts and Kingdom Hearts series oh and XII ofc, even though its story was cut heavily.
@@icessoup I can name a slew of PS2 RPGs that are better than FFX. FFXII, Persona 3, Persona 4, Xenosaga trilogy, Suikoden IV, Suikoden V, heck, I'll even rank MS Saga over Final Fantasy X. FFX is a just plain awful game.
@@1Tekkaman rogue galaxy, arc twilight of spirits
the developers actually went on record, it is pronounced "teedus" and NOT "tide us" just accept it. yes i agree "tide us" would make more sense but, it just isnt his name. also that game is over rated.
Nah only game that is better is Shadow Hearts and Kingdom Hearts
next time just dont talk at all
lmao get back to your big rock
@@CulturedVultures just my opinion. do you think the intro is necessary at all? people clicking on this video know what they are looking at you don't need to tell me this is going to be a video about ps2 games ...