Joe, I think this was one of the best videos you put up. Gulph Mills was lit back in the 96. Man, 8411-8434 group on the 95, 8851-8875 appeared just about anywhere between the three routes, 3117-3137, 3237-3251 were the norm on the 124/125 for the longest, and it was a good day whenever 3450-3479 showed up. I'm not sure if 3357-3371 showed up on the 124/125 like that. I don't think the NABI buses started running on the 95 until around 2000, and by that point, the 95 was just a shadow of itself. 8562-8584 and whatever was left of the RTS buses seldom showed up on the 124/125 but were probably standard when the 45 still ran to King Of Prussia.
Considering that this was filmed in November 1996, I'm wondering if SEPTA'S Frontier Division had just retired their 8411-8434 group, because until then, the 8411-8434 group was still nearly standard on the 95, because of it's close proximity to SEPTA'S Frontier Division and it not being a long route. At that time the 95 was a 40 to 45 minute run between Plymouth Meeting Mall and King Of Prussia. If you could catch the green lights coming out of King Of Prussia and if you didn't get held up in Conshohocken, you could shave off 10 minutes. That might have been an 8400 in the background at the 7:14 mark. 4:31, God I miss that sound. I spy a Neoplan @ 7:12
The NABI's did kill off 8411-8434 for Frontier, yes. On the day this video was shot, deliveries were only up to the 514x mark, so only Callowhill and Comly had their first batches, and Victory and Frontier randomly split a group of 20 (10 each, but not in any sequential order). Both depots split Routes 124 and 125 at the time.
The bridge over the P&W tracks off Trinity Lane was demolished for replacement with the current structure (note construction in the background at the 3:30 mark and the Jersey barriers along S. Gulph Road at the end of the last scene of the video).
Only a handful of the buses in the 3118-3131 group, and they only worked half the time. One of them was stuck on "KING" for the longest time till retirement.
@@trainman1971 The first one, #3129! There's no way those were not LED lights. I'm referring to the turn signal on #3129, those clearly look like LED turn signals.
@@forcechief Nope, it was not LED, believe it or not. None of the Neoplan fleet ever got LED lights... the E40LFR trackless trolleys were actually the first SEPTA vehicles to get LED (headlights). And even that was it until the Novabuses came, and it's been everything since them.
3460 may have had them because I remember the one time I saw 3460, on the 95, May 1996, and the engine cover had these round tailights, turn signals and backup lights. I'm not sure if 3460 was overhauled at that time but seeing a 3400 suburban on the 95 was rare, but not frowned upon.
@@franksanders9677 I have more coming. But as for NJT, aside from limited rail ops and the Philly buses, I did not cover them in depth until a 2014 video, in which by the time it was over, every single NJT bus route except for 30 scattered 100-series routes had appeared at least once. Check my channel for samples from that video... it would be any NJT-themed video posted between April and July of 2014.
The takeoff at 0:25 I miss that so much … that sound is as philly as Philly gets
I replayed that part like 6 times. Everyone in my house was like 👁👄👁
That 3129 and that takeoff though @ 0:25. Priceless. A true soul sound of Philadelphia.
Joe, I think this was one of the best videos you put up. Gulph Mills was lit back in the 96. Man, 8411-8434 group on the 95, 8851-8875 appeared just about anywhere between the three routes, 3117-3137, 3237-3251 were the norm on the 124/125 for the longest, and it was a good day whenever 3450-3479 showed up. I'm not sure if 3357-3371 showed up on the 124/125 like that. I don't think the NABI buses started running on the 95 until around 2000, and by that point, the 95 was just a shadow of itself. 8562-8584 and whatever was left of the RTS buses seldom showed up on the 124/125 but were probably standard when the 45 still ran to King Of Prussia.
The first septa bus to ever use the DD50
Hey your right
What is this of King Of Prussia? Looks like a Kingdom, please tell me about this. Thanks
Considering that this was filmed in November 1996, I'm wondering if SEPTA'S Frontier Division had just retired their 8411-8434 group, because until then, the 8411-8434 group was still nearly standard on the 95, because of it's close proximity to SEPTA'S Frontier Division and it not being a long route. At that time the 95 was a 40 to 45 minute run between Plymouth Meeting Mall and King Of Prussia. If you could catch the green lights coming out of King Of Prussia and if you didn't get held up in Conshohocken, you could shave off 10 minutes. That might have been an 8400 in the background at the 7:14 mark. 4:31, God I miss that sound. I spy a Neoplan @ 7:12
The NABI's did kill off 8411-8434 for Frontier, yes. On the day this video was shot, deliveries were only up to the 514x mark, so only Callowhill and Comly had their first batches, and Victory and Frontier randomly split a group of 20 (10 each, but not in any sequential order). Both depots split Routes 124 and 125 at the time.
Why didn't they come straight down Trinity Lane instead of taking the long way via Gulph Rd?
The bridge over the P&W tracks off Trinity Lane was demolished for replacement with the current structure (note construction in the background at the 3:30 mark and the Jersey barriers along S. Gulph Road at the end of the last scene of the video).
Ah gotcha
Neoplan had the destination sign on the back????
Only a handful of the buses in the 3118-3131 group, and they only worked half the time. One of them was stuck on "KING" for the longest time till retirement.
@@trainman1971 is it possible you can do either a septa or njt video on the vlovo bm10
@@franksanders9677 SEPTA Volvos I have, NJT, nada, except for one ride on one in the 1998 Hoboken Festival.
@@trainman1971 ok well keep memory lane coming and don't delete these videos it's the closest thing I got to my childhood
@@franksanders9677 It's hard to find any video's on the the nj Volvo buses. Theres just pictures, I guess better than nothing.
Wait, did I just see LED Lights from 1996?
On a SEPTA bus? I don't think so..... where?
@@trainman1971 The first one, #3129! There's no way those were not LED lights.
I'm referring to the turn signal on #3129, those clearly look like LED turn signals.
@@forcechief Nope, it was not LED, believe it or not. None of the Neoplan fleet ever got LED lights... the E40LFR trackless trolleys were actually the first SEPTA vehicles to get LED (headlights). And even that was it until the Novabuses came, and it's been everything since them.
@@trainman1971 Ok, because it sure looked like it was LED.
3460 may have had them because I remember the one time I saw 3460, on the 95, May 1996, and the engine cover had these round tailights, turn signals and backup lights. I'm not sure if 3460 was overhauled at that time but seeing a 3400 suburban on the 95 was rare, but not frowned upon.
Did the 95 go to kop back then???
Yes, but at the time of this video, the route only had 3 weeks left until service was cut back to terminate/originate at Gulph Mills.
@@trainman1971 damn do more septa history....can you do some on njt ??
@@franksanders9677 I have more coming. But as for NJT, aside from limited rail ops and the Philly buses, I did not cover them in depth until a 2014 video, in which by the time it was over, every single NJT bus route except for 30 scattered 100-series routes had appeared at least once. Check my channel for samples from that video... it would be any NJT-themed video posted between April and July of 2014.
The 95's last day of service into and out of King of Prussia Mall was on December 14, 1996
What’s the fastest septa bus in our current fleet far as speed ...8000-8119??
Why did the sign say penn center
That's where it originated/terminated in Center City at the time, on JFK Blvd between 16th & 17th Streets, closer to 17th.
What’s the 1300 Series?
'84 Neoplan AN435
1303. I rode that one numerous times on the 95 and 96
35ft Neoplans
Back when Nabis were new