You're right, I think a wait(NULL) is missing at the end of the else part. Although, since, we're writing from the child process to the parent, the program will work properly albeit with some resource leaks. I'm glad you actually noticed my mistake. Good job!
@@lxw5231 because the parent might finish before the child process, which will result in the child process becoming a zombie process, ie its data is not cleared by the time you program ends, taking up space in your system while doing nothing hence a zombie process
Wow, this is the most clear and concise coding lessons I have found on youtube. Perfect pace, audio and video quality is great, everything clear. Thank you so much. I was thinking of dropping my university OS course but now I think I may be able to pass with your videos.
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Thank you so much for recording this video! I have an OS class at school and the professor never taught us anything about this. Then he just released a project and I was hopeless until found this video!
I haven't understood forks and pipes all semester, but these two videos that you have were very well explained! Thank you so much, I might just pass my exam lol
I've been watching your videos, like how you take the time to explain things which might not always be so obvious. You are the only one who has (good) tutorials on IPC, coulnd't find any other, thought I was lucky when I saw you made two videos on IPC but then checked your channel and saw you've not only covered looots of IPC but also have a huge library of videos on C. So surprising due to how little views/subs you have, very underrated. I must ask, I tried to setup the IDE you use, visual studio code and couldn't get it to run a program, tried looking up how to do it but couldn't find anything clear on it for ubuntu, seems rather advanced to set it up so everything works smoothly? Spent the whole day looking for a good IDE, tried Clion, which froze upon loading project and geany which was no better than texteditor imo :/
Thank you! I have a video on how to set it up on Windows, although it should be the exact same setup for Linux. You just hate to point VSCode to gcc instead of mingw. If it's still an issue, you can send me a message over on Discord and I'll send you the exact configurations I have for Linux.
Awesome videos no doubt. This playlist is the lifeline of my OS labs this semester. I have one suggestion for you; it would be better if you use an online board and some diagrams when explaining codes. Though I understood most of the explanations, I recommended this playlist to one of my friends and he didn't understand many things. not everyone has good imagination skills. Subscribed your channel. God bless you.
These vids are damn helpful for my OS practical classes.Is there a video where you show how you set up vs code and the debugger for C?I use sublime text now but without debugger.Thanks
This one: code-vault.net/course/yx1g2sh6l4:1610029046575/lesson/4wy66ezt7u:1610303902122 And the next in the playlist shows how to run in on Linux and how I actually run VSCode
Because global variables are only global to the process. Each process (child and parent process) get their own set of global variables. Modifying one global variable in one process won't change it in the other
Awesome thanks a lot! Please need some guidance on how to get the output of printf of another program (child) then receive that in the main program (parent) but not after the child is closed or done?
Super clear video! Do you have any extension for VS to show a little explanation of the functions when you have your cursor above?, when I do so it only shows me the prototype of the function
I have the C/C++ extension from Microsoft. It should work but you just have to make sure it's configured correctly (there might be some path you have to add to the headers and whatnot)
@@CodeVault can u please elaborate because installing the extension is easy but I have no idea how to configure it, as a beginner this information pop-up can help us a lot!
Hello, Thanks for these usefull videos! I was wondering how you can see on VS the definitions of functions that you call, for instance pipe : "Create a one-way communication channel [...] " Thanks for the help :) best
Sir I have to stream L16 PCM(8khz audio) over C sockets to a remote server in real time, after validating session ID, the audio comes in from Freeswitch. I am coming to C from Python, however I find the docs, and resources for C to be obscure and very few and far between, would you be able to point me to the right direction, where I can find some material to read up on this stuff? Thanks a lot for all your videos. They have helped me to get upto speed so far
My goto place for **correct** information is the linux manuals. You can find info about sockets here: www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/socket.2.html It's a bit tedious to read, but it's worth it and you'll find some very useful information that you won't otherwise.
i have been watching you videos and there are very good . but im trying to use system(); to call nmap and mysql togther and feed one with inforamtion with the other .do you have any videos on piping console output and input
Hi , Do you have to wait i the else part at the begenning of paper before reading from the pipe(fd[0]) for the child to write to fd[1] and finish its execution basically i was asking if you can a write call before anything is written to the pipe. please advices
Here's a video on how to send an array through pipes: code-vault.net/lesson/phac6gv4cy:1603733529763 It's very similar to how you would send a struct or object
There are a lot of reasons. Think about all the tools you're using on your computer and what happens when you do something that makes them interact. Something like, drag and dropping an image from a process to another Other reasons could be to reuse functionality. If you have a program and you want to count the number of words in some text you could reuse the program "wc" and simply put a pipe between your process and the "wc" process' stdin and stdout
First of all thanks for the video, but I don't understand what happens when we return a number to exit a thread (ex: return 1 when an error occurs in opening the pipe). Does this number have a meaning or its printed on console window to indicate the part of the error or something like that?
No, it has no meaning. The only important thing is that it's not 0, thus considered an error by the OS. When I run it and get an error, I also will get an error code, which is the return value from the main (that 1 that you're talking about). Me, the programmer, seeing that 1, I can tell that something went wrong with opening the pipes and it's not just some random error. That's how these are used
Thank you so much for this video! I'm only a bit confused because while following along with the code around 11 min in the video my output showed only 2 printf messages or just one when we removed the break. ➜ ./a.out wrote 8 result is 8 Why is that happening? does that mean that even with the break the parent process is too quick for the child even to give any form of output?
I'm guessing your program just never waits for the child process to finish its execution. Try adding a wait(NULL) before the return of the parent process
Thanks for the explanation. QUESTION : if there is an error when you either read or write and return the program, Will the file descriptors be left open?
what program do you use to run the code? we programmed c in codeblocks, but that obviously can't run these types of codes and i tried putty, but it's just problematic. also thank you so much for these videos, you're the reason i haven't failed yet in my operation system class.
Glad to be of help. There's this video and the next one in the list presenting how to use VSCode in Linux and how I am using VSCode to run the programs (it's a bit more complex): code-vault.net/course/yx1g2sh6l4:1610029046575/lesson/4wy66ezt7u:1610303902122
why you don't use wait in parent process(else part) because both process are running parallel
You're right, I think a wait(NULL) is missing at the end of the else part. Although, since, we're writing from the child process to the parent, the program will work properly albeit with some resource leaks. I'm glad you actually noticed my mistake. Good job!
I dont understand， why there is resource leak without wait(NULL)?
@@CodeVault Why doesn't parent end while we are waiting for input in child?
@@lxw5231 because the parent might finish before the child process, which will result in the child process becoming a zombie process, ie its data is not cleared by the time you program ends, taking up space in your system while doing nothing hence a zombie process
@@CodeVault I don't think wait(NULL) is needed, since read is a blocking call, the child will wait until the parent writes into the pipe.
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Wow, this is the most clear and concise coding lessons I have found on youtube. Perfect pace, audio and video quality is great, everything clear. Thank you so much. I was thinking of dropping my university OS course but now I think I may be able to pass with your videos.
As a CS student I’ve watched countless tutorials and you are by far one of (if not) the best instructors I’ve come across
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@@patrickbitzer8350 Not necessarily C, but for C++ Cherno has really good videos for understanding fundamentals
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I've been watching your videos, like how you take the time to explain things which might not always be so obvious.
You are the only one who has (good) tutorials on IPC, coulnd't find any other, thought I was lucky when I saw you made two videos on IPC but then checked your channel and saw you've not only covered looots of IPC but also have a huge library of videos on C. So surprising due to how little views/subs you have, very underrated.
I must ask, I tried to setup the IDE you use, visual studio code and couldn't get it to run a program, tried looking up how to do it but couldn't find anything clear on it for ubuntu, seems rather advanced to set it up so everything works smoothly? Spent the whole day looking for a good IDE, tried Clion, which froze upon loading project and geany which was no better than texteditor imo :/
Thank you! I have a video on how to set it up on Windows, although it should be the exact same setup for Linux. You just hate to point VSCode to gcc instead of mingw.
If it's still an issue, you can send me a message over on Discord and I'll send you the exact configurations I have for Linux.
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Awesome videos no doubt. This playlist is the lifeline of my OS labs this semester. I have one suggestion for you; it would be better if you use an online board and some diagrams when explaining codes. Though I understood most of the explanations, I recommended this playlist to one of my friends and he didn't understand many things. not everyone has good imagination skills.
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These vids are damn helpful for my OS practical classes.Is there a video where you show how you set up vs code and the debugger for C?I use sublime text now but without debugger.Thanks
This one: code-vault.net/course/yx1g2sh6l4:1610029046575/lesson/4wy66ezt7u:1610303902122
And the next in the playlist shows how to run in on Linux and how I actually run VSCode
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@CodeVault , why cant we use a global valiable in that program declared before fork() and just store the input value in that variable?
Because global variables are only global to the process. Each process (child and parent process) get their own set of global variables. Modifying one global variable in one process won't change it in the other
quality content! What book would you recommend reading about operating system?
Just the up-to-date manual on any operating system has enough information. Books could be outdated and I never really look into them
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Awesome thanks a lot! Please need some guidance on how to get the output of printf of another program (child) then receive that in the main program (parent) but not after the child is closed or done?
There's this video on the topic: code-vault.net/lesson/43zvcsz6o1:1603732432539
Nice video!
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Super clear video! Do you have any extension for VS to show a little explanation of the functions when you have your cursor above?, when I do so it only shows me the prototype of the function
I have the C/C++ extension from Microsoft. It should work but you just have to make sure it's configured correctly (there might be some path you have to add to the headers and whatnot)
Me too
@@CodeVault can u please elaborate because installing the extension is easy but I have no idea how to configure it, as a beginner this information pop-up can help us a lot!
@@CodeVault I haven't been able to
Hello,
Thanks for these usefull videos!
I was wondering how you can see on VS the definitions of functions that you call, for instance pipe : "Create a one-way communication channel [...] "
Thanks for the help :)
best
I just installed the C/C++ extension from Microsoft and made sure it pointed to the right folder where the compiler is
Sir I have to stream L16 PCM(8khz audio) over C sockets to a remote server in real time, after validating session ID, the audio comes in from Freeswitch. I am coming to C from Python, however I find the docs, and resources for C to be obscure and very few and far between, would you be able to point me to the right direction, where I can find some material to read up on this stuff? Thanks a lot for all your videos. They have helped me to get upto speed so far
My goto place for **correct** information is the linux manuals. You can find info about sockets here: www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/socket.2.html
It's a bit tedious to read, but it's worth it and you'll find some very useful information that you won't otherwise.
Nice video, really well explained!
do you have some videos about mmap() function?. Thanks for this video.
No yet
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i have been watching you videos and there are very good . but im trying to use system(); to call nmap and mysql togther and feed one with inforamtion with the other .do you have any videos on piping console output and input
Yes, there's this video: code-vault.net/lesson/43zvcsz6o1:1603732432539
Hi , Do you have to wait i the else part at the begenning of paper before reading from the pipe(fd[0]) for the child to write to fd[1] and finish its execution
basically i was asking if you can a write call before anything is written to the pipe. please advices
No you don't. read will wait for there to be something in the pipe, similarly write will wait for there to be space in the pipe's buffer.
thanks for your video! What should I do if I want to get some complex return value like array of class object from child process ?
Here's a video on how to send an array through pipes: code-vault.net/lesson/phac6gv4cy:1603733529763
It's very similar to how you would send a struct or object
@@CodeVault get it , thank you!
Thanks a lot for the wonderful video, I have a question, why do we need to communicate between processes?
There are a lot of reasons. Think about all the tools you're using on your computer and what happens when you do something that makes them interact. Something like, drag and dropping an image from a process to another
Other reasons could be to reuse functionality. If you have a program and you want to count the number of words in some text you could reuse the program "wc" and simply put a pipe between your process and the "wc" process' stdin and stdout
@@CodeVault Thanks a lot my friend, by the way what's your name?
First of all thanks for the video, but I don't understand what happens when we return a number to exit a thread (ex: return 1 when an error occurs in opening the pipe).
Does this number have a meaning or its printed on console window to indicate the part of the error or something like that?
No, it has no meaning. The only important thing is that it's not 0, thus considered an error by the OS. When I run it and get an error, I also will get an error code, which is the return value from the main (that 1 that you're talking about). Me, the programmer, seeing that 1, I can tell that something went wrong with opening the pipes and it's not just some random error. That's how these are used
Thank you so much for this video! I'm only a bit confused because while following along with the code around 11 min in the video my output showed only 2 printf messages or just one when we removed the break.
➜ ./a.out
wrote 8
result is 8
Why is that happening? does that mean that even with the break the parent process is too quick for the child even to give any form of output?
I'm guessing your program just never waits for the child process to finish its execution. Try adding a wait(NULL) before the return of the parent process
@@CodeVault thanks! I'll try that out!
Thanks for the explanation.
QUESTION :
if there is an error when you either read or write and return the program, Will the file descriptors be left open?
Once the program finsihes execution, the operating system should automatically close those file descriptors
@@CodeVault Thank you =)
I have a question. How do we pass an array of values using for loop from parent to child or vice versa?
There's actually a video on this: code-vault.net/lesson/phac6gv4cy:1603733529763
what program do you use to run the code? we programmed c in codeblocks, but that obviously can't run these types of codes and i tried putty, but it's just problematic. also thank you so much for these videos, you're the reason i haven't failed yet in my operation system class.
Glad to be of help. There's this video and the next one in the list presenting how to use VSCode in Linux and how I am using VSCode to run the programs (it's a bit more complex): code-vault.net/course/yx1g2sh6l4:1610029046575/lesson/4wy66ezt7u:1610303902122