My daughter was only 1 of 5 students from all over the world to get into the newly formed Astrophysics program at the University of Hawaii at Hilo. She got in because her professors advocated for her. She has terrible test anxiety. So I agree with you totally. She is a genius kid who can’t prove it by a test. Luckily, she has no fear and piped up in classes.
I had a very high GPA but I would be the first to agree that GPA doesn't actually measure intelligence (and also that measures of intelligence are all horribly flawed; I have a high IQ I suppose, but I also don't think the IQ test measured anything meaningful). I don't even believe GPA measures work ethic. In my job as a software developer, from my decades of experience, GPA didn't correlate to things like teamwork, communication, or decision-making. American schools focus on not allowing students to exercise any of these on a student's own individual terms, as well as isolating students and not teaching them how to work together (tossing people together into teams without guidance or training does not do it, and I would argue does the opposite). I also believe that college degrees aren't a great metric for hiring people. Even having a relevant degree doesn't mean someone will be successful. The best software engineers I ever had the pleasure of working with were: a high school dropout, a theater major, a philosophy major, and a history major. What GPA and degrees do correlate to is the economic well-being of a person. GPA and degree requirements reinforce the economic status quo---which is also tied into systematic racism. I was an exception to the rule, and let me tell you, it's a lonely place to be when you're struggling as a first generation immigrant with no family money, subsisting on free pizza and ramen and trying to do college alongside a 40 hour work week, while your so-called peers are talking about how their family is having trouble finding buyers for their second house in Florida and how upset they are that they aren't going to get a car for campus.
“Some lady who watched me one time when I was a kid” sent me 😂😂😂 I be at an event and this lady will walk up to me like “Ah ah! My J my J. Do you remember when I changed your diaper.” I’m like nooo I was 3 months old 😂💀 why do you think I would remember that???
In general what you say seems plausible even if it is mostly anecdotal evidence. I assume that the GPA is a sort of average mark over all grades received over a period of time like the final mark on the certificate allowing entry into undergraduate university education here in Germany which is a weighted average of the marks in the last two school years and the final exams. This stays however in contrast to the finding of strong correlations between IQ and the performance in the school. It is possible that this correlation results from a third factor which isn't known as far as my knowledge reaches. Therefore your proposal that intelligence and the GPA aren't necessary connected would also be a direct attack on the IQ which is in its various different forms the only method usuable do detect differences in the intelligence level known today.
Thanks for the feedback. These are excellent points. Here's how I respond: it seems very plausible that intelligence and school marks should be strongly correlated given that each can be accurately measured. If educators are using reliable methods to activate student learning and giving assessments that accurately measure that student learning, the smartest kids should have the best performance. My argument is that the methods used in many cases do not do this. Imagine a blind man trying to determine the height of individuals by determining how well they can shoot a basketball. Many tall people play basketball, and many short people may have a hard time getting the ball in the basket, so you'll probably end up with a decent enough correlation. This; however, is a very indirect measure of one's height and it will therefore fail to accurately predict the height of many individuals. Tall people may be assumed short due to their inability to shoot the ball and vice versa. Similarly, many smart people may appear unintelligent, because student metrics do not capture their intelligence. I hope this is clear!
My daughter was only 1 of 5 students from all over the world to get into the newly formed Astrophysics program at the University of Hawaii at Hilo. She got in because her professors advocated for her. She has terrible test anxiety. So I agree with you totally. She is a genius kid who can’t prove it by a test. Luckily, she has no fear and piped up in classes.
Very impressive! I wish her the best!
I had a very high GPA but I would be the first to agree that GPA doesn't actually measure intelligence (and also that measures of intelligence are all horribly flawed; I have a high IQ I suppose, but I also don't think the IQ test measured anything meaningful). I don't even believe GPA measures work ethic. In my job as a software developer, from my decades of experience, GPA didn't correlate to things like teamwork, communication, or decision-making. American schools focus on not allowing students to exercise any of these on a student's own individual terms, as well as isolating students and not teaching them how to work together (tossing people together into teams without guidance or training does not do it, and I would argue does the opposite).
I also believe that college degrees aren't a great metric for hiring people. Even having a relevant degree doesn't mean someone will be successful. The best software engineers I ever had the pleasure of working with were: a high school dropout, a theater major, a philosophy major, and a history major.
What GPA and degrees do correlate to is the economic well-being of a person. GPA and degree requirements reinforce the economic status quo---which is also tied into systematic racism. I was an exception to the rule, and let me tell you, it's a lonely place to be when you're struggling as a first generation immigrant with no family money, subsisting on free pizza and ramen and trying to do college alongside a 40 hour work week, while your so-called peers are talking about how their family is having trouble finding buyers for their second house in Florida and how upset they are that they aren't going to get a car for campus.
so many facts in one comment! this could be a video in and of itself!
“Some lady who watched me one time when I was a kid” sent me 😂😂😂 I be at an event and this lady will walk up to me like “Ah ah! My J my J. Do you remember when I changed your diaper.” I’m like nooo I was 3 months old 😂💀 why do you think I would remember that???
😂😂😂 facts!
In general what you say seems plausible even if it is mostly anecdotal evidence. I assume that the GPA is a sort of average mark over all grades received over a period of time like the final mark on the certificate allowing entry into undergraduate university education here in Germany which is a weighted average of the marks in the last two school years and the final exams. This stays however in contrast to the finding of strong correlations between IQ and the performance in the school. It is possible that this correlation results from a third factor which isn't known as far as my knowledge reaches. Therefore your proposal that intelligence and the GPA aren't necessary connected would also be a direct attack on the IQ which is in its various different forms the only method usuable do detect differences in the intelligence level known today.
Thanks for the feedback. These are excellent points. Here's how I respond: it seems very plausible that intelligence and school marks should be strongly correlated given that each can be accurately measured. If educators are using reliable methods to activate student learning and giving assessments that accurately measure that student learning, the smartest kids should have the best performance. My argument is that the methods used in many cases do not do this. Imagine a blind man trying to determine the height of individuals by determining how well they can shoot a basketball. Many tall people play basketball, and many short people may have a hard time getting the ball in the basket, so you'll probably end up with a decent enough correlation. This; however, is a very indirect measure of one's height and it will therefore fail to accurately predict the height of many individuals. Tall people may be assumed short due to their inability to shoot the ball and vice versa. Similarly, many smart people may appear unintelligent, because student metrics do not capture their intelligence. I hope this is clear!
your new apartment looks nice
lmao thanks bro. you got time this week for that vid? im bouta hyu