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Quick Review - Laney Cub12R
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- Опубликовано: 9 авг 2017
- This time we take a look at the single channel tube Cub12R from Laney Amplification.
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An old review but a goodie, Wombat.. as usual 👍 A Cub 12R has been on my hitlist for a long time after many trials of various solid state amps. Finally sprung for one a week ago after playing my P90 LP through my mate's Cub. Five minutes of playing was enough.. no pedals, just the guitar and the amp and so impressed with the tone of this little beastie.
Hard to beat that awesome valve tone. My favourite amp now.. for sure. 👌
Awesome amp i have one in the studio all the time
Rip Wombat Page, I will miss you my friend.
I've had one o these for a couple years and anyone who wants that tube rock sound definitely recommend as well. can get some awesome authentic sounding tones out of this. my reasoning was that with the full 12" spkr you're going to get the full frequency range. for years I used solid state amps with overdrive effects and I liked the ability to have different volume sounds set up for live situations. but I seriously wondered why I didnt' go full tube a LOT sooner. the tone is SO much better through a real valve amp. I guess I never had much money to spend on an amp for a couple grand but these are so cheap but really great sounding and had no issues with it
I got a bonus a few years ago - got one for £300. Lovely. RUclips doesn't so these things justice. I like that I can add pedals in FX loop too. Pinch harmonics with high gain and bridge pickup really chime out.
Damn fine amp, and a great pedal platform. Who needs 2 channels?
This thing will give you those old Floyd/Gilmour tones - I mean, srsly authentic. And yep, he is right, it does your AC/DC, Led Zep The Who etc etc etc.
It's a freakin great little amp.
Matt Gilbert any idea how it interacts with a BK tube driver??
Great Amp, thanks for reviewing it
I have the Cub 10 and love it.
I also like this amp.
Great video man, I picked this up a few months ago. Question though: where did you mic it to get that great creamy tone?
Chris T awesome amp, mic was placed just off centre, right up against the grill cloth.
Wombat Page What'd you use SM57?
Nah we use a Sure PG57. If you are interested in the way we record and the gear we use look for the video on my channel called Signal Chain. It goes into what we use and why.
These are on sale near me for $250USD new at the moment, it's so very tempting......
It's Me Again great amp for the money
Nice review, Wombat, as usual.
Thanks mate, you're too kind.
Have you tried the orange micro series? Im looking at this and the micro dark, the orange is a 20 watt hybrid
I played the very first micro for a couple of minutes when it first came out. I haven't gotten my hands on any of the others but I hear good things.
@@WombatPage do you think it would hold up compared to this laney?
@@deathspawn54 depends on the music you wanna play and what cabinet you run the micro through.
I think orange is a bit overrated.. Also laney is much more affordable and you get more for less.
Check out the laney irt15, costs a bit more than the orange micros but has way more to offer
@@Scorcher19 ended up getting a Laney cub 12R
great review! i definitely need this one for home...
i have a question. can i use the speaker output for a backing track and amp mix kinda stuff? if yes, how or what'd you recommend?
No. The speaker output is for using an extension cabinet. There is no facility for backing track input on this amp.
@@WombatPage hmm thank you!
Hello, how do you compare it with the blues junior (back face) ?
Is it even comparable?
Thanks
They are quite different. Both aimed at a similar market and both run EL84 tubes but that's about it for similarity. The Fender is a great pedal platform and you will need to have pedals to get the most out of it at reasonable volume levels as it doesn't have any attenuation control, but you do easily get that classic Fender blues tone that makes the junior a big seller. The Cub has a gain control which allows you to get the overdriven tone without a pedal at reasonable volume. This makes it more plug and play for home use.
Thanks, very usefull
I have the BJnr Tweed w/Jensen. The Laney is mid-pushed, British voiced. The Bjnr is scoopy.
Together, in a wet/dry or stereo - MEGA
Well said mate.
Wombat Page Cheers bro!
Would this amp be good for ratt, quiet riot, or kiss tones?
I think you could get into the Kiss ballpark but for Ratt and Quiet Riot you may need a pedal in the front end to push the amp a bit harder.
Nice review. I just subscribed.
Hi! Wold you recommend this Laney Cub12 or a Vox AV60? Thanks!
Very difficult to answer for a couple of reasons. The first is because I have never played the Vox. Secondly is that these are two amps that are built very differently and for different purposes. The Vox is a 60watt tube hybrid amp with 2 channels and a host of onboard effects. If you want a plugin tube style amp that is like your solid-state amp then this may be for you. The Laney is a 15watt all-tube amp that is vintage-inspired with one channel and the only effect you get is reverb. This amp needs you to sit and fiddle with the controls and/or know what you are doing with an amp to get the most out of. If you just want something like your current solid-state amp then this is not for you. If you don't know how to use your controls on your guitar then this amp is not for you. These amps really don't compare to each other as they have different purposes in mind and are for completely different types of players.
@@WombatPage Thank you! I'm willing to go to tube, but I'm afraid the Laney might be not clean enough at a rehearsal/jam volume.
@@tomaswieczorek191 That comes down to how loud your drummer is. To be safe I would consider the Vox.
@@WombatPage Thank you very much!!!
@@tomaswieczorek191 mic it thru PA or even DI from the line out BUT you lose the great sounding reverb. Having said that I got Laney The Secret Path that's decent sounding and a plethora of Zoom pedals that don't sound too shabby thru it. I love the tone from the Laney. The 15w is seriously much louder than a 15w solid state.
I have a Marshall MG15 but I don't have a guitar.
Very nice....
Here are my two cents:
I have tried A LOT speakers in this amp, modern and originals.
For clean jazz tone the legend L 1218 is the best I have tried so far in it.
A 16 ohmed G12T75 modern takes out the low mids so makes it sound very sparkly and fendery- good if you want to.
A vintage V30 that had a dense steely tone- good for slide guitar.
Greenbacks sound very woody, but are not my top choice.
G1265- similar to the stock HH 1265 in many ways, very nice.
The best was an EVM12L, original, in a thiele cab.
And the best overall was an Eminence 16 ohm Lady Luck- unbelievable speaker.
So good it make me email Eminence to ask for similar contemporary speakers of them (lady lauck is an OEM Emily speaker) and they informed me that their currently produced equivalents are the CV 75/ 65, Reignmaker, Governor and Legend L1275recommended- and they are correct, you may go with any of these!!!
From Celestions for this amp I recommend:
Alnico blue, gold, cream, ruby.
G12H anniversary- not the Heritage.
Any Creamback, especially the H75.
V type first, A type second.
G1265/ T75.
70-80/ G12P80.
From Eminence those I mentioned first plus the GA SC64 plus many others.
From Jensen C12N, K2, P12.
This amp packs a lot of punchiness, boominess and low mids due to circuit design and small enclosure so you may need to compensate for that with the speaker choices.
It is a GREAT amp, totally recommended.
You really tried out all those speakers with this amp? why? I mean it's cool but a bit of a waste without documenting it with videos or recordings.
Plus, he paste this comment in every Laney 12R video on YT...
@@rumpel5098 so what's the problem I just want to help people, I am not any particular speaker sponsor.
@@georgefromgreece4119 No offense taken. I have no problem. Thanks for your recommendation. I was supposed to use your knowledge. Do you have any records of this swap?
@@rumpel5098 not really, I used all combinations during live shows and rehearsals but didn't record a thing at the time.
Is there any tone difference between 15W and 1W? Or is it just a loudness thing?
An amp in 15watt mode roaring along will always sound better than 1watt mode. There was no noticeable difference in tone that I could pick up in the short time I had my hands on this amp. It sounded great in both modes and managed to continue to sound like it's self, which some amps with this feature fail at. In fact the sound clips in this video are both in 1watt mode.
@@WombatPage thank you
I think the 15w input sounds slightly better. the 1 w still sounds really good. you're still getting that authentic valve tone. I think the 15w was a bit warmer and gruntyer. but try it yourself. out of amps I've tried over the years as soon as I tried one of these in the shop I knew this was the kind of tone I could use. love it!
@@WombatPage agreed and I have had mind for 2 years. Although after a while it just sounds loud regardless. I am sure it used to be noticeably quieter.
Wud u pick this or boss katana? :)
The Katana is good, but I would pick this every day of the week. I would always choose a tube amp over a solid state amp if I have the choice. Don't get me wrong, some solid state amps are great. I own several. But nothing responds to your playing quite like a tube amp.
@@WombatPage thank you for your response! :) appreciate it :)
@@WombatPage I used to think that statement was BS until i got a Laney. Just amazing feel - like a steam train v.a diesel ... It has life. The reverb is killer.
@@stephenhookings1985 You don't really know until you own one.
@@WombatPage I made a rambling video of a cheap SX Telecaster thru Laney 12r on my channel. I loved your SX reviews - the Tele is cost of a Bullet and feel of a Player. I got me a few SX basses - they are bloody awesome. Then I got the 57 version of the vintage white Stratocaster SX ... What a colour, feel etc. One doesn't need to spend a ton of cash to get decent gear these days.
Love your reviews. Honest and straight. Not like that Married At First Sight they are showing in UK right now :-)
Subbed, mate. G'day from Sydney,
great sound
Can I compare this with vox ac10 ? Both are available to me at about the same price
Well they are both small tube amps made in England, but that is about it as far as similarities go. The Vox AC amps are a totally different tonal beast. They have thier own tonal characteristic that nobody else really does. On top of that the Laney is 15watts compared to the Vox AC10's 10watts. My advice is to take your guitar (always use your own guitar) and try both amps and see which one you prefer the sound of.
@@WombatPage another thing is, would the effects loop really matter as a deal breaker ? As it's seems to be absent on the vox ac 10 . Thanks for replying your videos are total badass simplicity and honest
In my opinion no. It can be a handy thing to have if you don't want to run delay or reverb pedals or effects like that through the front of your amp. It's also handy for running a volume pedal in the effects loop to control volume while running the tubes hot. But deal breaker? No. I, personally, have rarely if ever used an effects loop.
thanks man! a huge help, ill certainly take that fact for deciding
WTF I thought you were Tom Araya lol
HAHAHA hey ermon!
why are they so expensive in the us?
Vappo Riesat its australian $, not US
Stage right is clone. Much cheaper. But as a Brit I bought the also manufactured in China but some money goes to Laney. £300 was a great price for 12r.
"It sounds really-really noise~"
sheeez really ...
They could of made it look a little better
I can get you maybe a peavey for free if you are any good.. this one I've never played on so I can't honestly say. Sounds good on paper.
Tune your guitar ;)