Queen Helaena’s Prophetic Powers Explained - Who is “The Beast Beneath The Boards” ?
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- Who is “The Beast Beneath The Boards” Queen Helaena’s Prophetic Powers Explained
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Blood and Cheese
I thought the beast beneath the board was Rhaenys and her dragon exploding from under the floor of the dragon pit when Aegon was crowned King to go tell Rhaenyra that her crown has been stolen by the Greens. That’s why Helena said it again with more urgency when they were looking for Aegon the day King Viserys died.
EXACTLY‼️
And he was found under some boards, it could also be a warning that the guy was a bad choice.
In goes with the author style of double and triple meanings.
I agree!
Yea Idk how someone could waste so much time and energy making a video like this and grasping at air to create hypothetical situations that could fit the prophecy when meleys decimating the dragon pit during the coronation fits the bill. It's also noteworthy that the phrase "beware the beast beneath the boards" hasn't been uttered since meleys' escape and as per narratives that get dumbed down, if it were still relevant then the writers would've made sure to shove it in a scene after the meleys escape.
@@tristanordstrom4124 You are absolutely right!!All of her prophecies came true almost immediately so why would this one be different? This video is clickbait and they got us. We watched it and commented. 🤦🏾
I think the beast beneath the boards is LARYS. he can warg into rats. He listens around the castle constantly. He’s always beneath the boards
Woo that’s interesting. I forgot about Bran and Rickon having those type of powers.
@@einhornisaman2973 Look up the vids by Joe Magician about this, they're amazing
Yes this is my guess as well. Props to Joe magician for where I saw this theory
I think it’s Blood and Cheese
I think her prophecy needs time to actually happen, it reads future. The time she mentioned aemond's eye to the time it actually happen takes months (or years, I'm not sure). The movie's timeline makes it feels quick. So the time they had supper and she said 'beware the beast beneath the board' I think she refers to rhaenys' dragon. But this time, when she mentioned another 'beast beneath the board' she might refer to the next tragedy, the blood and cheese.
I think that's also the reason when she mentioned it at the supper, she said it just like a soft reminder, she might know that they'll still be fine because rhaenys won't burn them that time. She sounded frantic when she mentioned it the second time, maybe because she knows that it will be her tragedy
I think at dinner when she said it softly was to Aegon because he was in the frame when she said it the first time and was a warning to him. And then yelled it at her mother because she has been so persistent on Aegon being king and needed it to get through to her. I think the beware was because she didn’t know what was gonna happen after the roar from Meleys, and when he was panicked and then she had thought about it more because in the moment of Meleys screaming at them she was the most prepared for it. I also do think it could have to do with “beware” you’ll start a war, with “the beast beneath the boards” aka with the real Targaryens
I feel like her gift cannot be used for her own benefits, that would make her too op, but to know others future. If she known her own future she would always be a few steps ahead.
Ehh would depend on how vivid her visions are in most cases you be the cause of your own downfall. If you don’t have a full picture of how and what happened
But she knows the fate of her children. Vague image of a son with a blade at the throat. Maybe can't see which son and hoped to give a baby verses an heir.
You would think so, but are the visions typically more of a curse than a gift? They usually aren’t interpreted correctly by the dreamer, like Dany’s dreams of the Iron Throne and the snow. Helaena seems special though.
Lol so so true
There is an especially brutal episode incoming and idk if I can take it
I think it's Blood and Cheese If you know you know It could be referring to the dragon that busted up from the ground I know it's a nit pick I just think of boards as referring to a house or a home....It seems like she is referring to a danger that is going to rise up from inside the house...either somebody sneaking in or some sort of betrayal.
The rats. And the club foot is the rats.
Yea I don’t think it was the dragon pit scene. It didn’t seem like that’s something helena would be as scared as she looked when mentioning beast beneath the boards to alicent. especially if nobody(family)is harmed. She could be talking about aemond or aegon
Could be multiple meanings at once, Aegon under the stone circle, dragon under the pit, blood and cheese from the hidden passages, prophecy is usually vague
@@leahcimwerdna5209 it's neither...something much more horrendous and compatible to the red wedding but worse...i won't spoil it and say any more but if you want to know look up blood and cheese 🤫
@@jimmymcgill2557 🧐 I mentioned blood and cheese. Or maybe it's Daemonds dragon tailed child
I believe her character is based on Cassandra of Homer’s Iliad Who had the gift and curse of prophecy. She could tell the future but no one believed her.
blah, blah. you're just repeating what everyone else says. she is based on previous dragon dreamers in the book.
And look at what happened to her….
@@candydandy2694 Yes, but GRRM based the Targareans on the Greeks and Romans.
With the rats being prevalent in multiple scenes it made me think, what attracts rats? Blood and Cheese. Maybe they were signifying the death creeping on Viserys, or possibly the Targaryen family itself. The beauty of it is its open to the individual I guess
Some also believe that Larys uses them to spy on important figures within the castle, and outside of it.
Oh I definitely believe he’s a green seer and uses the weir wood trees to spy on people and see into the past. I was fairly certain he was.. but once I saw the videos that RUclipsr Joe Magician has about this theory- I’m fully convinced that he is. There’s no two ways about it. You guys should definitely check him out. I think you’ll find it extremely interesting, and very informative.
@@PiXie232 will check it out :) thank you!
@@johnnyflinn2662 you’re welcome!! He’s my favorite RUclipsr I’ve found regarding ASOIAF.. besides Charlie on Emergency Awesome.. He’s got so many wonderful theories that line up perfectly, and he’s explained things that I would have NEVER have caught before.. I think you’ll love his channel. It’s a rare gem:)
“Looking for A needle in a haystack made of needles” sounds like the easiest job I’d ever have in my life.
"...beyond the boards" means a part of the house, so it has to do with the rats being focused since episode 4, when Rhaenyra escaped. I never read the book buy I always thought it's the rats and Larys.
If you havent' read the books you are in for a wicked surprise. Because I'm sure it's about Blood and Cheese. I won't say anymore.
Can’t it be all of it
I think the rats are VERY significant imagery. One because viserys was found a week after his death with his body being feed on by rats. Blood. And what also do rats love. CHEESE. hints blood and cheese. Poetic justice 💛
A week? No one went to him, even his wife?
@@quizzlybear your right and it's gonna be horrific
It's Blood and Cheese for certain. Just look at how frightened, grim and upset she gets when she says, "There is a Beast Beneath the Boards." This prophecy is personal to her i.e Blood and Cheese.
Daemon is cheese, Blood is a Rat Catcher
Cheese, knew all of the secret passages, one night he took Blood with him up this secret way... I also think she foresees Blood and Cheese.
What if the beast is King Jaehaerys Dragon Vermithor ? The one Daemon sings to ? And the rider Hugh Hammer ? Daemon knows where he is and the boards may be reference to under neath , not actual boards. But if Vermithor is around Kings landing still I would THINK he would know where to find him. He is the 3rd largest dragon, but now 2nd that the black dread has passed. He is almost as big as Vaeghar.
Could be Aegon II hiding beneath the table as he tried to escape :)
"Words Are Wind" ... "Dark Wings Dark Words" ... Seems like anything is up for debate. ❤🔥
So Daenys “Dreamed a dream of times gone by” when destruction, fire & dragons fell from the sky! And the people of old Valyria were left no longer living (you have to excuse me I don’t know all the words of Les Miserables’s “I dreamed a dream”)
The beast beneath the boards is the dragon that haunts her dreams. The dragon that brought the doom of valaryia. The wild dragon that had become enraged at the slavery of its young. Older than Valaryia.
Interesting
I would like to know more . What is the source?
🤯
What if characters having prophecies, and some going crazy from them, come from a source similar to Bran and Hodor? And Hodor wasn't ready, prepared, or capable of resisting the insanity?
She’s the ONLY one of those bloody Hightower snakes that I like
I've always thought of her as an innocent caught in the crossfire.
She is her father' s doughter. Kind and sensitive
Literally my favorite character I hope they don’t follow the books with her
@@cococobaina2746 Ofc they will what kinda request this 😭
That means the directors did their job excellently. The show was supposed to make us the viewers, kind of favour the blacks. Because how can it be captivating if you are not biased. Makes the viewer glued to the Screen hoping your side will win.
Have all the house holds that bent the knee to Otto been identified?
As prophecy is very vague, it could be one of three, Aegon, Rhaenys and the dragon or blood and cheese, the prophecy was stated last episode and the first one we see come out from under something is Aegon, but I don't know
it's neither...way more badass but i'm not gonna spoil it for anyone 👌🏻🤫
@@jimmymcgill2557 you didn't read what I posted
can you explain what blood and cheese is? i’m confused because everyone is commenting about it
@@ana2806. ruclips.net/video/WujRDYibqN4/видео.html
I will never get over Larys choking the chicken to the QUEEN OF WESTEROS' FEET.
My face the entire time 😧😱😳🤬
😂😂😂
I fail to see why it's such a big deal when so many, much worse kinks exist in the world.
I KNOW!!!! What a weasel!!!
Olivia Cooke is a very pretty woman. 😏
Could be a giant reptile type creature with wings... Or two lonely guys, one a rat catcher and one a former sergeant of the gold cloaks... Just looking for a place in this crazy world.
Blood and cheese most likely, she looked very smug and calm when Rhaenys came up from the floor, idk i'm sure it's blood and chesse.
Wouldn't she be shitting herself about those 2?
correct 👍🏻
That was deep.
I think there is a rumour that a copy of signs and portents is hidden away in a vault at the citadel, along with , the death of dragons.
Maesters do not believe in magic. It would explain as to why the maesters who play part on writing fire and blood never saw Haelena as a dragondreamer. Everybody in her own family ignores that fact, a maesters would have no clue.
The actress who plays Helena said that it is in fact about Maelys beneath the boards in the dragon pit at Aegons coronation. She said she is meant to be a dreamer in the show. If you'll notice she doesn't even flinch when the Maelys comes through the boards because she already knew it would happen and that they were not going to die. It's been confirmed in an interview with the actress.
Sounds so cute when you say modder
The prophecy came true last episode. An actual beast beneath the board.
That was my first thought, when it happened! :)
yep same here, the dragon literally popping out in the dragon pit.
clearly letting the Hightowers known of her loyalty.
Not burning the hightowers right there and then pretty much dooms all the Targaryens for the rest of time.
Rhaenys could have single handedly stopped the war before it started.
The queen that never fired
@@jongee7034 This is what is so confusing. Why didn’t she Dracaries them?? She had just killed 50-100 people breaking out of the dragon pit alone.
@@jongee7034 Yes, I completely agree, but then there wouldn’t be a need for another season. Lol
*The Beast beneath the boards is Aegon II… He is the underlying downfall of the Targaryens. The boards being the foundation of the family that causes all of the destruction. She calls him this at the dinner, and he flinches.*
Thank you somebody says it
@Prince’s HOUSE OF DRAGONS she wouldn’t of labeled Aegon this if that was the case bro
it's something much more horrendous and won't be seen until atleast season 2, i won't spoil it but if you wish to know look up blood and cheese 🤫
I agree.
@@jimmymcgill2557 *It could also imply Aegon leaving the Red Keep going to the underground encouraging the ills of the pits... I don't think Blood & Cheese are The Beast "singular"... I would've thought it would have been "The Beasts Beneath The Boards" but I guess we'll have to wait and see.*
Dragons of flesh, dragons of thread is a foreshadowing of the Targaryan strength in real dragons turning into just dragons on banners and such when they're all gone.
no its dragons of flesh weaving dragons of thread*
@@adaptivegamer9905 The real dragons, the Targs, weaving dragons of thread could be them weaving cloth banners. To carry into battle.
I popped when she said "you'll have to lose an eye". Knowing the ending already
Popped? What are you, a balloon?
eye popped? lol
She said "He'll have to *close* an eye", not "lose an eye".
You’ll have to close an eye omg I didn’t even notice that
Wouldn't it be the dragon that came up through the floors of the dragonpit during Aegon's coronation?
👏👏👏👏thank you!!! Common sense!! AISLE fameasser123!!!
That would be too literal and far too predictable. Prophecies are much more cryptic.
Yes, this is what I believe it to be too
No, it's house of dragons red wedding event, I won't spoil it for you though bit when it happens you'll know, very likely season 2 finale.
@@jasonpeters617 a guy with 0 common sense when it comes to ASOIF world or HOTD world is given out common sense awards……. Now iv seen it all on YT Lolol buddy you need to take that L and walk it off
I think it was fulfilled during the crowning in the dragon pit, when the dragon (the beast) comes from under the boards in the dragon pit
Except those were not floorboards? I think it is talking about the rat catchers/ assassins from the books.... let me not spoil any further if you have not read. Though they do change some things from the books to the series so who knows!
It's a red herring. The dragon is literally red.
Another guy said its aegon they had him hidden beneath the boards in the sept, hes the beast beneath the boards.
Makes sense.
Oh shit. It’s when Alicent is asking her where Aegon is that she says it (the second time). And in that moment he is beneath the boards. But I don’t see him as a beast, he doesn’t want to be king or any part of this treason. I don’t know but this is one of the better suggestions to me.
@@michelesilva9491 I think you're right, but remember Healena knows his true nature..... he's a beast; queue her toast at the family feast. Not to mention his reaction to the crowd as they cheered...... he is about to allow his real nature to be on full display.
@@riss3690 that’s right. They said he likes to watch those kids fight and even his own little bastard was there. I can see him being the beast.
@@michelesilva9491 in the book when they go looking for him they find him with a little girl of 12 I think. They don't take it that far in the show but yea..... he's disgusting.
The dragon bursting out from the floor of The Sept is in parallel with the prophecy.
Helaena talking about the centipede's feet to Alicent, and then her becoming the foot fetish of Larys Strong.
What if she was talking about Rhaenys and her dragon that literally came up through the floorboards????
It was Rheynes and her dragon at the end of episode 9
@@chanelestk852 the same reason helena said "he'll have to close an eye" & not lose an eye. prophecies are never exact & somewhat vague but you immediately understand/notice them once that event happens
it's something much more horrendous and compatible to the red wedding but worse...i won't spoil it but if you wish to know look up blood and cheese 🤫
The last ring has no legs at all... Right. The last crown (ring) is actually on wheels not legs. Bran Stark
At first I thought it was cheese and blood, but on episode 9 could it be the dragon?
Beast beneath the boards is the dragon that appear at the end of that same episode
The beast beneath the boards will be tied in with daemons famous book line: "An eye for an eye, a son for a son..."
What warning is it for Jace? How does that connect to his ending thats not a huuuugee stretch?
Yea I don’t get the con to Jace. It has nothing to do with his death. That’s the least likely theory I’ve heard.
I think he is relating it to the scorpion that killed the dragon since the ships are wood.
I thought she was talking about the dragon who broke open the floor during the coronation and flew off with the queen who never was
She was
Man the beast was that big ass dragon from the floor!!!
Exactly… while this show isn’t for “dummies” this vid goes so deep into this prophecy it overlooks the obvious to its detriment. Waaaay too deep. She wasn’t even a dreamer in the book and there’s no guarantee the fight he’s referring to will go exactly as the books say. All of this is just too much. Nearly every one of her prophecies are revealed within the episode or very soon after.
Just common sense connections.
@@erikadixon8341 It's about Blood and Cheese.
@@johnnyflinn2662 no it isn’t. Thanks anyway.✌🏽
@@erikadixon8341 heleana being a dreamer isn't mentioned in the books, because it's a collection of testimonies, and anecdotes, and before anyone can confirm let alone utilize her ability blood, and cheese happens. better yet;why not just say "beware the beast beneath the castle". last time I checked floor boards aren't made of stone.
no it wasn't. her dream specified to 'beware' , nothing to 'beware' about Meleys busting through the floor, she didnt burn anyone, she just flew away.
Shes like kassandra from the story of troy, destined to know the future but with little people believing her
And here I thought it was her seeing a dragon coming up from underground and killing dozens of people... like how the episode ended.
Aegon's bastard sitting in the corner at the baby fight club was sheltered by planks of wood .....beast beneath the boards.
Her dragon dream said to 'beware' what is to 'beware' about that bastard child?
"Due to a combination of good luck and bad writing.." 🤣😆🤣😂 seriously? i cried laughing.. well done. i just assumed that the beast beneath the boards was when rheanys came up from underground on her dragon.. too obvious?
The beast behind the board is a blood and cheese reference from the book…
The beast beneath the boards is Princess Rhaenys' dragon Meleys.
no, not that simple. also she said to beware of it, why? meleys didn't burn them, she just flew away, not much to 'beware' about that.
Seeing the dragons die in season 2 is going to wreck me 😢 i cried in GOT when Viserion and Rhaegar died and when Vhagar killed Arrax & Lucerys HOTD 💔 the dragons dying hurts more somehow.. lucerys was a child so that sucked too.
Timestamp 8:41, you said “last leg has no rings at all” shouldnt it be “last ring has no legs at all”
I know a lot of us saw that interview where she says the beast beneath the boards is Rhaenys and Meleys but I'm convinced that was a misdirect she was instructed to say. Like they actually told her to deceive you to keep the hype for next season. They've invited cast members who's characters were already dead to be in set just to throw off fans. no reason this isn't more of that.
im pretty sure the besst beneath the boards was aegon, because they we’re looking for him
No it was ryneas or its the reference to blood and cheese or the coming battle between the two princes
Yeah cz he was found from beneath the board.
@@Dluvcat he wasn’t he was found under a table
@@anakinuzamakihatake5366 yeah but isnt that area in a lower level
@@tannermarkland5214 I’m the lower city but now directly under any building
Team Black for sure
Otto is a terrible person who was obsessed about power. He ended the Targaryens and dragged his house along with it
I thought she meant Meleys breaking through the floor
Aemond and Vhagar were not who the prophecy was referring to that makes no sense. Why would Heleana be warning Jace about something that would happen to Luce? He would be nowhere near him when it would happen.
If anything she’s talking about Blood and cheese
Rhanyra is the beast below the boards and she is put there by Aegon
Talking about the Dragon that no one has ridden for like 100 years... Cause it has no new rider yet. It shall be Daemons .
The cannibal?
@@potatogeneral4072 Im not sure of the name. I just know within the lore. There is one that is suppose to be one of the oldest that is still alive. But that could be the name but i cant say for sure.
I believe his name is Vermithor.
@@link5518 vermithor was never claimed again after jahaerys I
@@XD-ez7un Yes I am aware. He may be claimed possibly by Daemon we will see.
I think it make sense a maester would omit magic as they pretty much all despise it and see it as the work of false gods or wtv
Three part prophecy. Rhaenys, The next baby sitting under the table at the dinner, and that cheese.
What baby?
I really wish you would go into more details when you warn about spoilers. What might you be spoiling with each video? The rest of HOTD? The book? The original GOT show? For instance, I won’t be reading Fire and Blood, and I’ve already seen all of GOT. I just want to avoid House of the Dragon spoilers for future episodes and seasons. However, your spoiler warning makes me feel like I can’t watch any of your content because I don’t know WHAT might be spoiled.
My problem with Helaena being a dreamer is that nobody seems to notice the obviously prophetic stuff she says.
That beast beneath the board has to be do with three eyed raven because he was the one that destroyed Targaryen dynasty so that he can sit on iron throne. Maybe Heleana knows abt him.
Prophecy is just the ability to sit quietly and observe the world. You study history then take present day happening judged against the past to divine the future. Prophecy is often spoken loosely because fate isn't certain and there is wide swaths of deviation from center due to free will of millions. I often use prophecy to see things which tends to be calming to me due to the spider web of continual cause and effect.
There’s nothing secretive or unknown about the doom. A “SUPER-VOLCANO” erupted. And destroyed Valeria.
Ah so the red dragon roaring is an actual red herring.
thank you for asking that question. because I'm confused. 🙃
I thought it was when rheanys bursted tru the dragon pit
I thought the beast beneath the boards was the club foot guy turning into a mouse cuz he can warg
I think the showrunners want us to think the beats beneath the boards is just Maelys, but that’s just a red herring. The real beast beneath the boards is Blood and Cheese.
I suppose this video came out before last episode when a full size dragon came up from beneath the boards of the Dragon Pit and threatened to kill all of the Greens at once… 🤷♀️
Ah, simple logic, love it.
@@rainbowpickle it was just confirmed by the official expert for the show so yeah it’s what they meant 😅
ruclips.net/video/QYQlQCgJh8w/видео.html
@@ages6592 I loved your comment, everyone was going so deep and over analyzing and I was like yeah that makes sense. Lol thanks for link!
Aemond gets the dragon, Vaeghar, BEFORE he loses the eye…🤦🏼♀️
I like it this way better, I would give up an eye for a free dragon.
Yes but payment for the dragon was losing an eye the debt doesn't go unpaid.
@@mattstorer4638 Poor Lucerys 😢
God... I was thinking the beast was not meleys.. and yeah.. I trust it wasn't melesy but certain characters
Havent watched but it was obviously Rhaenys and her dragon coming up through the floor at the end
It appears you haven't read the books, so I'll tell you that isn't correct, and you'll be in for a huge surprise later on. Perhaps something to do with secret passageways alongside some blood and cheese...possibly rats. Rhaenys scene also never happened in the books so it wouldn't be about that or something so obvious.
It’s a Triple entendre but I won’t spoil
Not according to the books but this fit part of the prophecy
No, its not. the prophecy says to 'beware'. what is to beware about that, they just flew away, didnt even burn anyone. hardly an occurrence worth having a dragon dream about.
Maybe "the beast beneath the boards" is her aunt breaking through the floor during the coronation..??
Blpod and cheese..... is the hand and Strong
Most of her predictions involved Aemon.
Maybe she's talking about "the cannibal"??
I think she’s taking about Blood & Cheese 😢
Me too
Theres a beast beneath the board meyles beneath the dragon cave place
there are lots of dragons there. dont be so simpleminded, its more nuanced than that.
Its clearly b&c
It meant. Rhaenys was gonna come up from under the boards on the dragon n almost kill them at aegon king crowning ceremony
no it didnt
Lol. Then what's the answer?
to everyone who thinks it was Aegon or Rhaneys...t's something much more horrendous and won't be seen until atleast season 2, i won't spoil it but if you wish to know look up blood and cheese... 🤫
hallelujah! truth.
After watching the first season, I think, she means "Blood and cheese" - Google helps (little Spoiler) for knowing what will happen to her children. It's awful what will happen.
She doesn't care about brother Aegon, who is not really nice to her and has a special bad caracter... but she does surely care about her children.
The last KING has no legs at all.
Guess they had to reference that stupidity a bit. Contracts and such.
Cheese is the beast.
These analyses are SO close to being good, but you seem to come up short every time
It was clearly the dragon that broke through the floor at the end of episode 9 🤦♂️
No it wasn't. the dream says to 'beware', Meleys didnt burn anyone, she didnt do anything, she just flew away. Nothing to 'beware' about there.
No,you’re wrong sir the “beast beneath the boards” were the dragon that bursts from beneath the boards. During Aegons king ceremony.
No, YOU are wrong. Heleana said to 'beware', there is nothing to 'beware' in that scene, as Meleys didn't burn anyone, she just flew away. Nothing to 'beware' about that.
@@candydandy2694 we will see, next episode. If she doesn’t say it. Then we we were right
So it wasn’t just the huge ass dragon that came from up under the ground at the coronation????
Uh the giant fucking dragon that exploded from under the floors at the end of the episode? Obviously
Uh, no, you're wrong. nothing to 'beware' about that, Meleys didn't even burn anyone.
Beast beneath the board could be Cannibal or Vermax !!!
The beast beneath the boards. Rats. Rats bring plague.
idk...i keep thinking of wildfire....
The actress who plays Helena said that it is in fact about Maelys beneath the boards in the dragon pit at Aegons coronation. She said she is meant to be a dreamer in the show. If you'll notice she doesn't even flinch when the Maelys comes through the boards because she already knew it would happen and that they were not going to die. It's been confirmed in an interview with the actress.
“Burn them all”
vermithor!
Aemond is the beast beneath the boards.
it's something much more horrendous and won't be seen until atleast season 2, i won't spoil it but if you wish to know look up blood and cheese 🤫
@@jimmymcgill2557 I know about blood and cheese as well 😉
Nah it’s larys in mouse form as a warg right? Isn’t that a thing in the books or am I crazy?
@Kari she’s said it twice when Aemond has been in the room. Blood and Cheese is the easier guess. But prophecies are tricky things. Aemond also does something very horrific. It’s one of the most horrendous things you can do in the world of Westeros. Don’t want to spoil it for people who haven’t read the book.