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Cardinal Burke: Stop Communion debate now
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2014
- Cardinal Raymond Burke explains why he hopes October's synod of bishops will close the debate over Cardinal Walter Kasper's proposal to make it easier for divorced and civilly remarried Catholics to receive Communion.
May the Lord bless and continue to lead you Cardinal Burke. we need more like you who stand firm and speak the truth. you are in my daily prayers
My favorite Cardinal of all time
TRUTH. Thank you, Cardinal Burke.
Your Eminence, thank you for standing up for true Roman Catholic Church teaching. May Our Lord Protect & Bless you.
Jesus would never deny anyone, the roman doctrine of excluding communion to divorced/remarried is disgusting, the love of Christ shone through to all, even to the lowest, remember Zacchaeus?
We need more Cardinals and Bishops, Priest like Cardinal Burke
God Bless Cardinal Burke
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The absolutely amazing thing is that they would give +Burke a voice at all. They certainly would NOT have done this in the early 1990's.
***** Because they want the video of Kasper to be more appealing to the crowd...you know....crowd pleaser is their forte! Never mind what God thinks.....as long as they win the vote of the people!!!!!!!!
Just a shame!
I know His Excellency..... very good man.
I have not idea why your God woud bless this idiot.
Peter.....we pray for your soul
I love Cardinal Burke's zeal for the family
I agree with him.
I agree with you Cardinal Burke.
I pray pray pray this is a future pope.
God forgive you ! Christ only made two Sacraments Baptism and The Eucharist. The rest are man made. The Pope can change any man made laws. No Human can change Divine Law!
michael Desmond Hynes there are 7 "archbishop." May God forgive you for misleading innocent souls from His Holy Church.
5 were not made by Jesus. Man made were the other by the Catholic Church. Most important to be a good Christian and follow Christ from when he was on earth. The Pope can change man made laws and avert to two Sacraments if the Holy Spirit directed. I am only interested in Christian values. At present we have 7 Sacraments in the Roman Catholic Church. I am not misleading souls but sadly you seem to be unaware of what Christ was about. Burke may be jealous of Spiritual guidance to the Cardinals who did not favour him as Pope. I thank God for the Holy Spirits intervention there. Jesus made only 2 Sacraments whilst on Earth Baptism and the Eucharist. May God show Mercy and Forgive you and Raymond Burke for speaking out against our Holy Father. Amen.
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@@michaeldesmondhynes9225 You are wrong smartypants. Jesus made 7 sacraments. Leave us alone with your lies. Thankyou.
GOD BLESS AND PROTECT YOU FOR STANDING UP FOR THE TRUTH, CARDINAL BURKE!!!!!
GOD BLESS ALL MEN OF GOOD WILL, LIVE TRADITION!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cardinal burke , great man , please choose him as next pope. catholic church needs him.
Bravo! Good for him!
LIVE TRADITION,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NICE DUCKLING)
RAYMOND BURKE YOU ARE A SAINT.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Long live Cardinal Burke.
LIVE TRADITION,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WRITE TO ROME. I HAVE SENT HUNDREDS OF LETTERS.
May God Forgive You
The proposal of cardinal Kasper is totally uncatholic. it is abominable to say the least. it is false to say catholics can live a life different from their belief. the Sacrament of the holy Eucharist is the center of catholic life, our final submit. The person who lives a life contrary to the churches teachings cannot in good faith receive communion.
Satan is on the loose to destroy the church of Jesus Christ, and if your Holiness does not protect the seat of St Peter from this Kasperian Heresy, all of Christendom, whether catholic or not, will suffer gravely from this error.
Furthermore let us not pretend that we do not know our God is a Merciful God, of course even the scriptures and tradition assures us of the tenderness of God's mercy, Nevertheless, we can not over emphasise God's mercy above his justice. while he is a merciful father, he is also a just judge. And a departure from his will (the Kasperian proposal) will attract nothing but condemnation all the perpetrators of this Heresy.
FINALLY AND VERY IMPORTANTLY: I suppose the church has to consider the consequences of this Kasperian proposal:
1. on marriage: this will bring a totally collapse of what it means to be in a valid catholic marriage. the Sacrament of marriage will now have, what is called a second chance, and of course this is absolutely abominable. While supporters of Cardinal Kasper may pretend that it will not, we have to look at the consequences of the proposal not just in our generation of church history but also in the light of the church's past and future history. it is unfaithful to the apostolic tradition we have received in the past and it will have an horrendous effects on our future history.
2. on the sacrament of reconciliation: it will shame the sacrament of reconciliation and will ultimately mock the true meaning of God's mercy. the sacrament will now be a place where a priest will say to a remarried person "Your sins are forgiven, go and continue in your adultery". My gracious goodness! even a one year old can see that this is totally unacceptable under true christian theology.
3. PAPAL INFALLIBILITY: this is perhaps the most threatening for the future of the church. if the see of St Peter declares this error, the catholic world is in trouble. the implication remains that the teaching authority of the church will be brought into into question, hence all of catholic teachings that flows with it. your Holiness be remained that all of christendom looks at the see of Peter with keen interest ( whether out f spite or good interest), a departure from what even most non catholics perceive to be the true teaching of christ, which the church has upheld for centuries will be devastating on all of christendom.
4: "it was not so in the beginning,.. it was because of the stubbornness of your ancestors that moses allowed divorce....." you holiness should not make the same mistake moses made which our lord jesus sort to correct. while moses has an excuse that he had not baseline to make his decision on remarriage, your Holiness does not, because God the Son, himself spelt out this teaching clearly without mixing words.
Most holy father, consider these issues and see the truth of the opposition from the likes of Cardinal Sarah, Burke, Mullër etc. and condemn this Kasperian definition of mercy as a Heresy.
Kardinal Kasper is a known heretic (many bishops and cardinals did ackownledge that)
Cardinal Burke is doing the right thing. We need more bishops like him. The reason why so many people have left the Church or discard Church teaching is because so many dissident bishops don't care enough to address this concern.
I may be wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me if the third secret of Fatima is unwrapping.
+Chachi Shapiro Amen!
Chachi Shapiro
You may be right!
We need a Pope like him. That alone would fix half the Church’s problems.
Ooof a lot has happened since this....God bless Cardinal Burke
May God's will be done and the truth of marriage be defended. One thing to remember, despite the so-called spat between Burke and Kasper, people are gonna do what they want anyway regardless of what the Churches teaches, that, in my opinion, is the greater scandal.
Let's keep praying for one another!
God will reward you Cardinal
We love and pray for you our dear cardinal. May our Father, Lord Jesus, our Immaculate mother Mary and St. Michael watch over you and protect you against the attacks of the enemy. May all Catholics pray the rosary of all our holy priests and for the conversion of those anointed, who do not subscribe to the dogmas of our holy mother church. May God forgive all of us sinners and have mercy on our souls.
Please keep our traditional Mass as it has always been
Laudetur Iesus Christus. Thank you Cardinal for your opposition to accept homosexual relations and marital infidelity on last synod. Let's pray for devoutness priests.
Did CNS think nobody would notice the imagery??? The divorced-and-remarried in Cardinal Kasper's interview are all gorgeous people, lunching in the sunshine, etc., while Cardinal Burke is sitting in some dark, dank Vatican mausoleum.
Leni Riefenstahl was more subtle!
You cannot change the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Mr. Burke, your position is all well and good, except for one thing. Since the 1960's, the church has been handing out annulments, granting over 90% of the petitions that are filed. There cannot possibly be that many marriages that are void ab initio, so what we have is the "Catholic divorce." Even Pope John Paul II expressed amazement at the number of annulments being granted in the United States. If the Pope does not understand the process, then I certainly have no obligation to understand the process, except to state that it is a scandal.
Those who are willing to spend the time, the money, and the frustration with the intrusive rigmarole can have things fixed and get married in the church again. Look how the church caved in to Frank Sinatra when he married Kay Spreckels, which was his fourth marriage. The church looked especially bad, because in the 1950's, it raked him over the coals for divorcing Nancy and marrying Ava Gardner. But now, the church, its pockets undoubtedly full of Spreckels money, declares the marriage to Nancy to be void. Those who are not willing or able to, or who refuse on principle, to countenance this nonsense have no recourse under the present rules. It is a double standard, and it should be eliminated.
Under the modern nullity rules, the church is longer asking whether a marriage occurred. It is asking whether one should have occurred. Were the parties fully understanding, were they mature enough to enter into marriage, did they have mental reservations. While each of these things might justify a divorce, they do not destroy the validity of the marriage itself.
And, oh, by the way, what are we going to do about all pedophile priests and the bishops who cover them up? I no longer believe that the church is capable of handling this on its own. We need to have the civil authorities intervene, send the priests and their bishop enablers to prison, and confiscate any church property used in furtherance of a criminal enterprise.
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The subject is beyond debate. The words of Christ are without ambiguity, marriage is indissoluble. If the marriage is deemed invalid, as with an annulment decree after investigation by the church, then, and only then may a Catholic marry another who has never been married. Only satan would perpetrate the lie that divorce is permissible within the one true church, it never can be, Christ made that clear forever. God Bless Cardinal Burke.
God bless and strengthen Cardinal Raymond Burke. He made a stand for our Lord Jesus by defending the Holy Word, against the perversions of False Francis. Thank you brother Raymond!!! I pray for you. Joseph a' Catholic
truthaboveagenda Pope Francis deserves the support of every Catholic, he alone is the Vicar of Christ on Earth, he alone holds the keys given to Peter by Jesus, the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Pray everyday for our Holy Father Pope Francis, and the church he protects through Christ Himself.
NaYawkr False Francis is a wrecking ball against the Church. We are to never pray for evil, francis is unfaithful to the Holy Word, Jesus. Francis is a blatant anti-Christ: homosexual advocate, teaching Christian children that muslims (who strongly reject that Jesus was Crucified, their evil koran states that our Lord's great sacrifice is a lie), he celebrates hanakkuh with false jews and pagans... (Galatians 1:8) "Yet even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we preached to you, let him be accursed." The faithful Apostle Paul Joseph a' Catholic
truthaboveagenda While I agree with everything you have said about Pope Francis' sad conduct, we can't fall into the heresy of Sedevacantism, which is another novelty of the 20th/21st century. The First Vatican Council (1870) pronounced:
"He made Peter a *perpetual* principle of this two-fold unity and a visible foundation, that on his strength an everlasting temple might be erected and on the firmness of his faith a Church might arise whose pinnacle was to reach into heaven. But the gates of hell, with a hatred that grows greater each day, are rising up everywhere against its divinely established foundation with the intention of overthrowing the Church, if this were possible. We, therefore, judge it necessary for the protection, the safety, and the increase of the Catholic flock to pronounce with the approval of the sacred council the true doctrine concerning the establishment, *the perpetuity*, and the nature of the apostolic primacy. In this primacy, all the efficacy and all the strength of the Church are placed."
Rocco O. God bless you my brother.
According to St. Paul's warning, to we who Love Christ, this teaching of the first vatican council is error: "Yet even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we preached to you, let him be accursed." (Galatians 1:8)
False Francis the same as False John Paul II are cursed by the Almighty, for teaching against the Holy Gospel. One example being that both of these evil popes have taught the faithful that muslims are our brothers. This blasphemy goes directly against our Lord's teaching, " you can not serve two masters." Our master is Jesus, the muslims master is satan. I have no thought whatsoever of leaving our wonderful God given Church, these unfaithful false popes are what Pope Pius x warned about- the enemy within. I believe from my studies that we are in the final days and we the remnant are the true Church, once again overseen by the first Pope- Jesus himself. Alpha and Omega. With Love, Joseph de Jesus
Love without fidelity, is love? Fidelity hurts sometimes while we are in this world. And, in this world, love without pain, is love?
Francis is a HERITIC , putting himself outside the CHURCH , HENCE no authority
But I say to you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, excepting for the cause of fornication, maketh her to commit adultery: and he that shall marry her that is put away, committeth adultery. - Mt 5:32
And he saith to them: Whosoever shall put away his wife and marry another, committeth adultery against her. - Mk 10:11
Every one that putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and he that marrieth her that is put away from her husband, commmitteth adultery - Lk 16:18
THANK YOU FRIEND, KEEP PRAYING AND SEND LETTERS TO ROME.
yeeck the word is better translated unlawful rather than adultry. meaning the marriage was not valid to begin with that where annulments come from
The trouble with that verse is that Jesus, the Son of God, apparently did not know the difference between fornication and adultery. A married person cannot commit fornication (which is sexual intercourse between unmarried persons), only adultery. So what are we talking about? Under the Jewish law, if a man married a woman, and then discovered that she was not a virgin (had committed fornication prior to the marriage), he could put her away and go shopping for another. If a wife committed adultery, the question whether she could remarry was moot, because she would be stoned. And with the adulterous wife out of the way, the man was free to marry again. What would be interesting to know is the nature of the conversation that led up to Jesus' statement. He was speaking a society which allowed men to divorce their wives at will. Did He mean to say "do not divorce unless you have serious grounds?" That seems more likely than the tortured definition given to the word "fornication."
@@shirtless6934of course Jesus knew the difference between fornication and adultery! He IS God! Sad how many people have no fear of God to say He didn’t know!
There is no doubt that satan is behind this. I have always thought people come to the church to change themselves. Not go to the church so you they change it! The Catholic Church exists for one reason only. That is the salvation of souls. A philosophical conclusion could be drawn from cardinals, bishops, and laity who support a change in church teachings or how we approach our faith . This conclusions is that they do not have the supernatural faith in the powers of this Church established by Jesus Christ himself. If so, then why the need for change? Why the need for discussion? If you really believe that this one holy apostolic church was truly founded by our blessed Lord himself then you would already know in your heart that it's mission of salvation of souls needs nothing that this finite world could offer. Why would something perfect need changed?
I see a lot of bad news coming from this and the last pope and others in Catholic leadership and it is my hope that the Catholic laity will study scripture and hold the leadership accountable to stand by it. ALL leaders, even church leaders are men with free will and they are free to stray from the path Jesus set them on. We are also free of will. so we are free to stand on God's word and show the leaders we mean business and not just Catholics, but ALL churches.
God Bless you Thomas.
truthaboveagenda Thank you. Have a most blessed Advent and Merry Christmas
I have to add that Cardinal Burke reminds me of a person who is always focused on the heavenly kingdom and the salvation of souls.
While Cardinal Dolan is only worried about the Earthly Kingdom and is out for approval of the people. Typical Judas complex.
We really need to focus on a separation from the world. Dolan and the establishment seems to be aiming to please Caesar.
I believe Jesus will soon take away His Church, (those believers in all the churches), and those left behind who want to please the world will all be rolled into one apostate church described in the book of the Revelation as the church of Laodicea. We the resistance will be out of the way and Lucifer's followers can achieve their desired total world domination.
Cardinal Burke is a real Catholic! He will suffer much and will be persecuted for his faith by Francis the Humble.
i doubt the cardinal agrees with you
CSTCFL Humble huh? The damned, the cursed, the fallen.
If he does not recognize the authority of Pope Francis, he is not Catholic.
@@shirtless6934then there are many people who say they are Catholic who really are not!!
Are they not leading those Christians into sin because they believe they can now receive communion?
Stand firm cardinal Burke we are behind you and continue to speak the truth of our Lord those who don't like it the door is open. If you want to follow our Lord than obey all his teachings and will. What will be left of the church is everyone want to get his way.
Sadly all the people who want acceptance at the assembly will press for this 'new' proposal which actually is part of an old protestant motion that caused schisms to form. Christ was referring to responsibility and fidelity, how bad the relationship is till married couples have to live apart from each other, but still considered as one. Thus celibacy and chastity returns while separated, till death do they part. Christ Jesus modeled marriage as his relationship to the Church. He will always remain true even if the unfaithful cheat on Him. Why won't the rest of the Catholics, the clergy and lay honour Christ with their way of life by keeping true to His words? The world will pass away, but His word is forever.
I am a Catholic. I wonder if the Church accepts financial contributions from divorced Catholics? Re-married Catholics?
even the worst sinners can support the church Jesus founded on Saint Peter. But despite the protestant feel good TV money loving preachers, no one can buy their way into heaven, in fact I think it's money they burn to keep the fires of hell roaring hot.
NO,,, THEY SHOULD NOT.
+Rakesh A. .. spoken like a lapsed catholic or a protestant. Congratulations!! Stop judging him .. and pray for him instead!!
+Rakesh A. .
.you call pope Francis "wishy washy" and you accuse me of judging? ? . you need to look in the mirror sir.. ate you even catholic or do you just like bashing the pope?? ...
Praise be Jesus Christ in the Most Holy Sacrament of the altar.
"Anyone who receives unworthily is guilty of the Body and Blood Of Jesus Christ."
--St. Paul (1 Corinthians 11:27)
It wouldn't surprise me if this Caspar person leaked this document himself. He created it for the very purpose of leaking it. He was out to create the very kind of confusion it has caused.
What an appalling and deluded old man! Totally living in the past - long may he stay there!
Cardinal Burke is one of the good ones
Excommunicate Cardinal Kasper NOW!
It can be solved by a mere technicality: speed up the procedures of annulment, make it affordable,so that civilly remarried people can normalize their situation in the church. The law kills, the spirit of Jesus which preached the mercy of God can set us free.
Ridiculous. Annulments meant there was no marriage in the first place.
Leo, marriage is deep and mysterious spiritual union instituted by God for His own purposes. Forming and dissolving such a union is never a 'technicality' to God. Please consider what God's intentions are in this matter not what is quick fix to meet human desires. Peace.
People who went through a divorce, can only survive if they look forward,at the future. The Church has to give them hope for the rest of their lives.What was broken, can often not be repaired. Maybe they come out of this situation as better persons, and maybe they became wiser. And maybe only after this failure they understand the true meaning of the sacrament. Their second marriage is better than the first one. Of course, the situation becomes more complicated when there are children from the first marriage.
Leo Renier There is no such thing as a second marriage in the Church unless one of the spouse is dead. An annulment simply means there was no marriage in the first place.
Leo Renier Hi Leo. With charity, I must disagree. "Divorce" is a human construct. We can survive only if we look to Jesus Christ; We can only be better persons if we look to Jesus Christ; we can only be wiser if we look to Jesus Christ. Christ is the hope we seek in His gift of salvation. Our life in this world is not for our repose or our happiness, it is to labor for our salvation. To put temporal happiness before the service of our Lord is to turn our back to Him. "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. And whosoever doth not carry his cross and come after me, cannot be my disciple."
May Jesus' truth prevail in all ways, within the Church that claims Jesus as it's sole founder!
Burke has no waffle. There is never any doubt as to what he is saying and what he means.
neither did Hitler!
The Biblical 'word of God' says all sorts of things that we no longer focus the spot-light on in order to keep Christ's central teachings of compassion and non-judgement. Can't you just feel in your hearts that Pope Francis is truer to the kind, loving, forgiving spirit of Christ's message? Burke wants sound, consistent, eternal doctrines that are intolerant of increasingly more people... Gay or divorced/remarried people are not "evil"... give them a break. The Church covered up corruption and child abuse which is much more "evil". And if we're going to go by every word of "The Book", then I want a slave! The thing I appreciate about the Catholic Church is its ability to accept scientific findings and to adapt to reason when it's needed to remain relevant. The Church has made huge changes over the centuries to adapt to new the realities of the world and life in it. It must continue....
If you're suggesting that the Catholic Church accepts the "Big Bang" and Evolution as true then you are mistaken. You commit the error of modernism, as condemned and destroyed by Saint Pope Pius X in Pascendi Dominici Gregis (encyclical).
While Jesus Christ was charitable and merciful to sinners, he never tolerated or accepted their sin. Real charity does not justify compromise and abandoning the truth. Christ Himself told the Apostles to go 'into the whole world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.' (Mark xvi.15-16)
"The Church", as in the immaculate Bride of Christ, didn't cover up anything. The cover up was performed by some leaders within the Church, who are fallen human beings just like you and I.
By the way, should we apply "compassion" and "non-judgement" to those who covered up the cases as well? Where do you draw the line about making these judgements? You are correct in labelling these acts of abuse as "evil". But why do you stop there?
Slavery was different in biblical times, among the Jews. It was never based on race or skin colour, but on economic and social status. Many chose to become slaves in order to provide for their families. Scripture itself condemns the practice of capturing people to make them slaves and trading them as mere cattle (see Exodus xxi. 16 and I Timothy i. 8-10), which would be considered the modern form of slavery.
If we honor the words of the gospel about divorce, we should also honor the words about the conditions to be a leader in the church, as enumerated in 1 Tim.3:2. Clear language: a church leader must be a man without fault, he must have only one wife, be sober, self-controlled, and orderly. Why accepting the first, and not accepting the second statement?
Leo, the Roman Catholic Church is not like Pentecostal Churches that take every word of the Bible literally or rely only on the Bible. Remember the Catholic Church put the bible together in the first place so it has good idea on how to use and interpret it :). For myself, I do not see these two points as linked but I would definitely not challenge or discount words that come from the mouth of The Lord Jesus Christ. I know that many would love a greater element of choice in their beliefs, but choice in what you believe is just another name for heresy. Obedience seems like such an outdated and irrelevant notion and yet it is at the root of reconciliation and true relationship with God. It is only when you try it that you realise the great benefit and blessings within it. Peace.
Hi again Leo. Not trying to pick on you, of course. But again, I must disagree with you. Obviously the meaning is that a man cannot have more than one wife, because at the time some men had more than one wife. If you take the words of Scripture exactly as they are written, without placing them into the context of God's history and without interpreting them in the light of what Christ has revealed to His Church, what do you do with verses such as "Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you."? By your logic, a small poor child that dies before it can physically receive the Eucharist can't attain Eternal Life.
Leo
Great point. I would give an even better example from the Bible, from Jesus Himself. He said: "if your hand is a douse of sin, chap it off." If we want to take the Bible literally, lets take it all. Why don't you people that quote the Bible to apply it to OTHERS, apply it to yourselves and cut your hands, and plug your eyes out?
...and at the end of that Christ also says, that no everyone can accept this!
In addressing the subject of divorce, I think it's prudent to look at ALL ASPECTS of the subject -- including why both Moses (under the Law) and Jesus (by Grace) allowed for it, under albeit narrow circumstances. Even Paul said later that, if an unbelieving spouse left the believing spouse, the believing spouse IS NOT UNDER OBLIGATION in those cases.
When someone's marriage falls apart, we as believers DO have a duty to God and to our spouse to try and reconcile. That is not always possible in cases of adultery and disbelief. Whether in body or in mind or in heart, the adulterous spouse has still betrayed an intimacy that should only be shared within the bonds of marriage. Rather than adding insult to an already injured believer's injury, the church has a duty to seek to RESTORE that believer.
The summit of Catholic life should not be compromised by what is actually a concession granted to the weak. The Eucharist is the core of our sacramental life, whereas marriage is a sacramentalized accommodation and compromise for those who would otherwise burn.
Cardinal Burke is on my list of Catholic heroes.
Good.
Stop pedophilia now, have some mercy on children. Woe unto Pharisees!
I fear that this old harsh man would have stoned the adulteress who was saved by Jesus. It is all rules, rules, rules. Thank God we have pope Francis!
Hello friend. Cardinal Burke is merely being obedient to the words of our Lord Jesus Christ: "But I say to you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, excepting for the cause of fornication, maketh her to commit adultery: and he that shall marry her that is put away, committeth adultery." Being merciful and charitable to those in adulterous relationships is not to cast them aside but neither is it to soften or change the commandments of our Judge. Just as a child raised with little discipline learns nothing of how to be disciplined, so it is with the sheep of the flock of Christ.
+Slim Jim .. Very true.. thanks for your comment. God love you!!
Dear Father's I guess It would be more appropriate if we simply stop condemning these persons under such situation. True enough the teachings we would here from you, specially from this meeting you had, would affect how most of us would react to our neighbors.
What about when the church Annuls a marriage like they did with the Mexican president and after his term ended he divorced. What kind of non sense is that? We can call it an annulment but it’s pretty much a divorce.
annulment means that the sacrament of marriage was invalid in first place on the grounds that church law specifies.
invalidity of marriage means it wasn't blessed by God because of some reasons. if this comes to the light later, then after providing an evidence to the pope and proving validity of grounds, the pope then can annulate invalid marriage
GOD BLESS YOU CARDINAL BURKE.GOD WILL PROTECT AND GUIDE YOU...
Cardinal Burke sees herself as the number one defender of Church Law. Yet she seems ready to defy the Pope. Contradiction, no ?
Why are you referring to cardinal Burke as "she"?
walterygor Because I know a queen when I see one.
Peter Von Berg so you have an eye for "queens"..... ok, if you say so!
Pope Francis wants the bishops to consider the Eastern Orthodox practice of having a marriage be divided into regular marriages and penitential marriages. The first marriages are normal, the second are allowed by the bishop (eparch
), via economia, after he has issued permission for the divorce and is set in a penitential tone liturgically; and after the second marriage Orthodox are not allowed any more unions. Pope Francis wants to restore union with the Orthodox and this would help that process--do I agree with the potential changes in sacred doctrine or praxis, perhaps not. I would venture to guess that the Synod will prepare the way for second marriages way into the future, but until then the Synod really has no power to change doctrine and the Pope would not unilaterally change the doctrine of marriage without a majority consensus of Cardinals and bishops--possibility even convening an Ecumenical Council to ratify the changes. We will wait to see if the clouds gather around Rome or the light...
News flash: everyone’s a sinner. That’s like saying “if u commit a sin, no communion ever again!” Really? They wouldn’t be condoning it just by giving them communion
There are other legitimate reasons for getting a divorce besides adultery. One of the biggest reasons is domestic violence, which can come wearing many ugly faces - physical, emotional, financial abuse, child abuse. This happens a lot!
I wonder how good his Latin is.
What is "WRONG" WITH the rest of the cardinals and bishops?????Why are they not speaking up???Only these few???What, Are they only worried about their own positions???Is that what it is???Is it because their weak??? Maybe their not catholic??? Maybe the church has lost the faith???Why are they not speaking up about what Francis is doing???God bless the few who are standing up for the truth.
I don't see the connection between divorce, remarriage and commion .....if divorce happens there's a reason, and if remarried that's between those people and God.
To receive communion a person must be in a state of grace. Divorce is a sinful act (according to Jesus Himself) and therefore a divorced person is unable to receive it. To receive communion while divorced would be a double fault because because the Eucharist is the actual body and blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
walterygor LIVE TRADITION!!!!!!!!!!!, WRITE TO ROME.
He's being proven right
When I come up with answers think about them . I didnt think for you but for everyone who reads enough to wonder from it.
Sounds like someone doesn't like the fact that his brethren are evolving....
NO............... gays are NOT permitted here.
IgnacioAgramonte No they are welcomed here but will be told the TRUTH with love and respect. and Gemma truth does not evolve it develops that means that what was true yesterday remains true today. If new issues arise the moral decisions of newer problems of our age are based on the same truths as past generations. If truth evolves or changes it is not truth
I think this is an amazing statement by Burke...fast forward to Trump.....Oh that's ok, we support him....All windbags....blah blah blah
A faithful bishop to the doctrine. 2 Thessalonians 2:15: "So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter." & 1 Timothy 1:10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers--and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine
I had no choice but to divorce. Later i converted and have recieved communion. Should i leave the church, or stay in a state of shame.
SpunKy Man If you were never married in The Catholic church then technically your marriage was never valid, and if you were baptized after your conversion, then all your sins of the past were forgiven and you can therefore receive Holy Communion and thats if you didn't commit any mortal sins after baptism but if you were baptized before your conversion like as a child then you must confess your mortal sins to a Catholic priest before receiving Holy Communion, and if you don't then you are commiting a serious sacrilege which is mortally sinful. I strongly advise you to never leave the Catholic church for it has the fullness of truth and Christ himself in the Holy Eucharist under the appearance of bread and wine. if you have any questions please ask.
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Technically the Catholic church does indeed recognize other marriages. Protestant as well as civil marriage. Are you saying people who have gotten a legal marriage outside the Catholic church and were divorced are welcomed in the church and can receive communion?
If writing was once pictures carved on a wall than cartoons are all written to.
Thank heavens for Cardinal R. Burke .
Precious Blood of Jesus seal him an all clergy that are defending Your True Teachings.
this man will be pope one day
I sure hope they make Burke, or someone like him, the next pope. How about Archbishop Vigano?
Cannot you hear the voice of the affected, are your hears are stopped to listen the cry of those. If Jesus allows to listen to the affected peoples' plea, the so called conservatives, may take the traditional practice, although it results crisis with contemporary culture.
Cardinal Burke fails to understand the Holy Father’s age-old pastoral option to lead in God’s mercy!
Maybe you fail to understand that giving people the option to commit a sacrilege is not pastoral, or part of God's mercy.
God help us
Jesus would never deny anyone, the roman doctrine of excluding communion to divorced/remarried is disgusting, the love of Christ shone through to all, even to the lowest, remember Zacchaeus?
What a bunch of rubbish. Katherine Hepburn and Spencer Tracey had a 30 plus year affair and he never divorced his wife because, "I am Catholic, we don't believe in divorce" but you are alright with infidelity? My wife's ex husband cheated on her with another woman and had a child with the mistress, they tried to work things out and finally divorced because he continued to see the other woman. 3 years goes by, and my family insists that we get married in the catholic church. The church wanted $20,000 for an annulment, this is so the Pope can fatten up the bank accounts for the Vatican. Now, since her first marriage didn't exist, this now makes her two sons bastards because the marriage never existed. The owner of Valley Bank in Las Vegas Nevada was married in the catholic Church 3 times and 3 times he was granted an annulment. The amount of money he paid was unreal and was in the millions and is a known fact in this community. What a corrupt, sickening group of people that run Rome. Shame on you and burn in hell you hypocrites
Very well stated, thank you. You are the first Catholic that has admitted that a pope can be falable. Most perpetuate the idea of Vicar of Christ and the fact that because the pope is acting on behalf of God, he is infallable. Especially when he speaks ex cathedra. I get arguments all the time on this subject, it is ludicrous. God Bless You.
PRAY FOR THIS SINFUL WORLD OF THE END TIMES.
Daniel Pan HE MAY BE THE ANTICHRIST.
IgnacioAgramonte Daniel, we have had a few exchanges, it sounds as though you are changing your position?
Daniel Pan This is refreshing to hear. As I recall, I thought that you defended the pope in several of our exchanges. God Bless
Poor Cardinal Burke not an ounce of mercy of love for God's people. His love is for the law only not the souls who Jesus wants to feed at HIS table. Let us all pray that his heart is somehow warmed with the Holy Spirit.
+David George His love is for the truth that Jesus taught us. You want to depart from that truth, encourage people to live in mortal sin, endanger their souls and you call it mercy?
+David George You need spiritual guidance ASAP. Your thinking on this is entirely wrong. Good grief.
You do have a point. I think it's fatal that there are two parties in the church right now: The ones who abandon the dogma, the orthodox teachings of Holy Mother Church, to promote their "social justice" - and the ones who have a very strong faith, who defend the faith, who hold on to catholic teachings, but cannot show any mercy. This problem is most noticeable with the problem of homosexuality. The first group supports the gender ideology and demands the sacrament of matrimony for homosexual people, and thus abandoning the very clear and by many popes confirmed teachings. The other side holds on to those teachings, but sadly, they cannot find love for their "enemies", they almost preach hate und violence towards homosexual people, insulting them, degrading them, making them look like gross monsters which would eat children (although much criticism is rightful). If the people who love dogma and the teachings of the church would find some mercy, some love, some charity in their heart, they would be much more successful in bringing people to faith and in promoting Christ's gospel by their example. Jesus himself did not go to the sinful woman in Bethany to condemn her for being a sinner, he helped her and showed her his mercy. He did not insult her until she was willing to repent, he plainly showed her his mercy. That doesn't mean he accepted her "lifestyle", but he DID give her a chance to change - and she did.
@Randolph Crane Of course, ignoring the final words of Christ in the very same circumstance as the woman caught in the sin of adultery. 'Go and sin no more'. NOT continue in your sin, and encourage others to do so.
I do admire Cardinal Burke's minority opinion among the Cardinals--he no longer has the protection of HH Benedict and thus is prey to the wolves--as they say. One will have to pray for Cardinal Burke that he find a way to interact the the other cardinals without being seen as a neurotic/nostalgic old grandpa--God help him.
I request to you that if you wish to help that I can come in Rome to visit pope there because if any body get letter from Rome , I means if any Cardinal or any other high authority can give me letter for my Visa and I can apply for my visa and visit Rome also.
because nest mother in November Pope will close the blessing year and He invate from whole world and if any Bishop or any Pope friend or cardinal can give letter then I can get visa easily
Does the Church not recognize annulments anymore?
miller go and research annulments, and get a clear idea of the teachings
It recognizes Church annulments. Civil annulments no.
Celine Dion married a twice divorced man with 3 children from former marriages and she married him in a Roman Catholic Cathedral in Montreal. How was that possible? A cynic would say MONEY helps.
Cardinal sin facing off with the Devil for the right to eat soul
I believe god inspired every book every written since his writing inspiration first begun with the wipers along the sands and soil. Drag lines just like the pen but with toes and fossils and chemical structure and atomic ministral structures.
All this uproar over the worst cookie in the world? Why? Who cares?
Yeah, let’s talk about excommunication for a Bishop, obviously in denial of its own gayism, who take the liberty to oppose to the true words of god expressed by the Pope, shall we ?
So Very Very Sick
Nutty. Who cares 😴
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this Cardinal lives on another planet....
FIRE OF HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah.. the TRUTH is pretty foreign to today's world of modernists. I agree with you! God bless Cardinal Burke!!
Catch me not taking advice on marriage from a man who has never been married. Burke is utterly, utterly mad.
I'm curious, did Jesus ban Judas Iscariot from participating in the Last Supper even though He knew He would be betrayed by him? John 12:21
Move foward on times Cardinal.
God love all his children.
Married or divorced, Jesus Christ said nothing about communion.
The good shepherd is Jesus Christ. He tells all the people in the world: "Love you one another as I loved you."
Divorces you don't wear a yellow star. Go to a church and eat the body of Jesus Christ, drink His blood.
Who is the judge? The catholic's church or Jesus Christ?
True words ! Next Pope !
Pray for cardinal became a pope
this Cardinal thinks he's Jesus.
We need more Churchmen like him
Dominus vobiscum
Let us also pray that he never becomes Pope.
Exactly
David George
Cardinal Kasper? Then u are correct my brother! Lets hope snd ptay not!
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