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You are on a slippery slope! Why do you have the ability to talk?
Everything you’re saying can be said about you!
I liked Mediocre for a bit but here lately he says GD in every other sentence. I commented to him that he was too handsome and smart to use profanity like this. He called me out and said he was using T not D and that he doesn't speak on God's name like that or some nonsense and then the next breath says it at least 3 more times right after like it was a joke. My ears just can't take it. I unsubscribed and pray you share Jesus with him. Maybe you have a loving chat with him about how awful it is using the Lords name in vain continuously.
I love your videos brother, but that’s a L take. Literally the one apostle that talks a lot about marriage (Paul) was not even married. It’s not about the person talking it’s about the source.
The issue is that these people keep taking marriage principles and applying them to dating, all because sex is involved. It’s foolish.
This
Yep nailed it
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As a young married man you are so right. These biblical principles are to be applied in the context of a marriage. There’s no biblical dating that I know of (is so please tag me so I can know these scriptures).
This. Seriously needs to be called out. Boyfriends and casual sex partners aren't husbands. Women need to stop investing heavily in nonmarital connections with men, sex being the primary way that they're doing that. And men need to stop demanding respect and submission from women they do not marry
We can tell Melanie does not read the Bible. Women do not need to submit to random men. Only their husband. And their husband must sacrifice for their wives.......now that is scripture
Say it again for the people in the back. I'm tired of people misreading scripture and equating random men to a HUSBAND.
Women dont listen to those guys either 🤷😂
Well is does say in Ephesians 5:21 to submit to one another. So they're kinda right although not gender specific. I assume that is similar to loving thy neighbor.
@Brandon Wheaton The next verse in Ephesians 5 begins the examples of what submission looks like in different contexts. In marriage wives are to submit to their husbands, with family children are to submit to their parents, and in work slaves are to submit to their masters (in modern day we'd call this employees submitting to their employers).
@@contextforchrist2395 that makes more sense. Thank you.
Women are too submit to"theirs husbands"Not MEN. You' re supposed to submit one to another. Men and women both are too submit depending on the situation.
Women are to submit to the male leadership in their lives. Father, husband, pastor.
Exactly. And this is what happens when you have people who are Christian-ish broadcasting to others what the scripture says.
There is no mandate in the Bible for women to listen to all men or any man unless he is her husband or father, or maybe even pastor in some contexts. Outside of that, we are to simply love others and follow the golden rule.
@ Proverbs 31 University Yup. And boyfriends, coworkers and male friendships don't count. They have no authority and there is no requirement for women to submit to them.
Thank you. Somebody gets it! Women are only obligated to submit to God and their husbands, not men, in general. Especially men with no leadership skills!
So if I walk towards a woman being in a dangerous situation, should I have to lay my life down for her and protect her ? Because if that's the case I'm expecting a woman to submit to my authority since I'm the one able to protect both of us.....
To me it's how God designed life...
We need to remember how we talk to someone. Stating facts with love not in a anger...we can state truth without a anger
And we can also state things sternly without being accused of being consumed by anger
That women talking about submission is a single mother with 2 children she definitely needs to clean up her closet before accusing others
@@tredevroe9751 You won't be accused if you are speaking properly, Melanie was not speaking properly at all
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You’re absolutely wrong. People are manipulative and if you are already in a position to have to call someone out , their instincts WILL be to deflect and pretend you’re a bully.
It’s a classic move
“Oh if you really loved me you would accept me “
“If you really loved me you’d call me out exactly how I want and say it bubbly , even if I pushed your boundaries for months and walk all over you when you are nice to me”
Some people need to be called out bluntly . These same people will take advantage of your kindness indefinitely. You assume their maturity and speak with clarity but they just brush it off. So you can either walk away and let them feel right or sometimes if you are being walked all over you are blunt and then they will finally get it but still be a coward and pretend like they would have listened if you said it any other way .
No one should be offended by the truth . Blunt truth isn’t offensive u less you are insecure and childish . I rather hear a blunt and direct truth .
I don’t need to be wasting time being catered to like I’m a child, if someone is direct they are doing a favor. If someone is dancing around the obvious because they fee the truth has to be hinted at softly then they are dealing with a problematic immature person .
She didn’t even preach truth. She quoted scripture in a manipulative way completely dismissing other scripture in the attempt to be domineering.
I’m almost 30 and I have been married for 11 years (We were teen parents who chose to get married).
Me submitting to my husband isn’t “yes, master.. whatever you say.”
It’s more like, I know he cares about me, wants what is best for me, and is grounded and gives good advice.. so I say, “Babe what do you think I should do?”
And then I do that.
If he asks me not to do something, I understand he has a good reason. If he feels strong conviction about something, I don’t belittle him.
AMEN! U got it girl people really read too much into that.
Christianity is not an attitude it’s a life
It’s both
This is why a lot of people shy away from the word of God because it’s not brought to people with love. You can still be truthful and still be respectful in the way you say things.
These podcasts are not helpful to women at all! These men use Christian talking points to shame women. The bros, often skip over the text that unction them to be good, faithful, providing husband. Why, because they don't truly believe in the scripture. I have debated quite a few of these men online and they usually don't even believe in God. They think the gospel is foolish overall except when it comes to condemning women. I've been told by these very same men that they aren't Christian, they're agnostic or atheist.
The way that Melanie King woman yelled at her and called her out of her name was the most unchristian thing one can do when trying to minister to a young believer. Her blue wig is a modern woman's problem but Melanies fake boobs, fake butt, and lip injections are what exactly?
I know some of your audience may not be aware of colorism but it's a major factor in who a lot of these men promote on their channels, and it has absolutely nothing to with "Christian" qualities.
Yup which is why Christian men should not be taking these podcasts seriously. No one on that podcast appears to be living in congruence with scripture but want to use the Bible like it’s not a double-edged sword. We will all get judged by the moral laws that are written in that book, we should NOT cherry-pick
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Is Melanie king a Christian?
@@tbj4855 according to her no, she’s spiritual
That young lady calling the blue-haired young lady “the whore of Babylon” to comes across as angry and bitter. The truth of her argument is overshadowed by her lack of Grace towards the other young lady. She may need healing before she can deal with those living I error as it pertains to whatever she is talking about on her show. Sometimes How you say a thing is More important than What you say. It will determine whether of not the truth is received.
Are you a woman?
Amen 🙏
Amen
🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ Funny thing is the blue haired girl in my opinion is showing the most restraint and she was respectful and yet interpreted. Melanie did the same thing she told her not to do. If anyone wasn’t listening it was them. I really hate how Christian are perceived due to ppl who aren’t really even about that life. 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
This!!
I respect it because that aggressive drunk could've caught this hands severally
Agreed
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Sometime when we get close to God we have this holy spirit energy towards him & it may be frightening when speaking the truth 🙏🏽
I was gonna comment about the “women submitting to men” but i’m glad that you got around to it at the end of your video 😂 it is not biblical for women to submit or even listen to ALL men or all that men want. That’s complete nonsense
Thank you ❤️ agreed 🫶🏼
Why do you guys always forget about the proverbs 31 woman. She kept her house, her husband, her children and her servants BUT she also had multiple SUCCESSFUL businesses which she was the BOSS of. The difference is there was balance in how she approached each of her roles.
So we have to bring that up everytime women get brought up?
@@Ishbikes it's actually not brought up a lot. The Titus woman is brought up more.
Because they want to oppress us
I hate red pill people using this argument becuase they conveniently ignore the remainder of the verse which is “Husbands, love your wives and treat them kindly”. Furthermore, my pastor said as it is written, submit to your Husband, not boyfriend not random guy. Husband, and then they claim men “shouldn’t get married and just cheat on their wives”, so I don’t even take their message remotely seriously.
Right
Marriage through God is great but Marriage through America benefits women not the man usually.
Your pastor said but haven't you read
BS. No, you are wrong. She needs to display modest and humble character before getting married. She is not wife material. By her own admission she is a "boss babe" and she is clearly very combative and proud.
I agree with the pastor that said people with no lived experience of healthy marriage or parenting out here doling out advice. It’s ashamed nothing done in love. Melanie and Kevin were/are not in healthy marriages, but giving out advice.
After listening to about 3 min, I believe I’m at the point where I am through being “entertained” with the “he said, she said, they did 😮, you won’t believe what this person posted, etc” back and forth controversies. Thank God btw.
I got caught in these endless videos of different channels of this type of content and I feel like I have come to my senses about spending time on this stuff instead of in The Lords scriptures or listening to sermons about passages and books of the Bible etc.
I deleted all my social media accounts and it’s been so relieving so far. So I believe I’ll just RUclips for mostly sermons and worship songs and audio Bible etc. I don’t care what “cardi B” said
Same here, thank you for saying this because I’m living testimony to this and was thinking the same exact thing! I got rid of ALL my social media except RUclips but I’m done with these types of videos too. I love my boy Ruslan, I still believe he is teaching something to those who need it but as for more mature people in Christ, we can choose not to encourage
A true word.
I deleted my MAIN accounts. I have a burner account so I can say the things I always wanted to without it affecting my business. It’s beautiful.
@@Ishbikes 😂 LOL
Me too 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
She is over 40, divorced and lost her kids. She can not speak to a young woman and teach her anything especially when she is filled with so much pride and speaking over her life with so much evil and hate.
All of that is irrelevant
Precisely
You ever heard the phrase, a wise person can learn even from a fool but a fool not even learn from a wise person?? That's Biblical and I go to church once in a while
Agreed!
AND lost her kids 👀?… mh
She wrong simply because the Bible doesn’t say be submissive to any kind but to the HUSBAND!
Yes and it’s quite easy to submit to a man who has to die sacrificially for you, and Love you like Christ loved the church! The man has the bigger burden than women. But all we ever hear is women submit, never men die for your women.
So if I am not married to a woman I don't have to lay my life down for her when in a situation of danger ???
@@krackmusik97224 I don’t think scripture mandates that you do that, it’s just a courageous thing to do. Scripture doesn’t tell women to submit to all men in my knowledge
@@LaMarieOne So they don't submit to their father ?
@@krackmusik97224 I never said that, ofc they should. But should they submit to all men?
I’m so glad the delivery of how she said it was mentioned because a lot of times we want people to understand us and learn from us but how to say something, the tone, the body language etc MATTERS. You could be speaking all facts but if your delivery is wrong it will alter how the message is received unfortunately.
No, Melanie was dead wrong actually. She was not referencing any solid scripture, as she added to it by saying "men," boasting about how much church she's been to, whilst saying absolutely nothing. Additionally, her tone was just nasty. I don't care what the context is. I would never jump so far out of my character as to sound that venomous and condescending toward someone. This absolutely is a pick me situation, because there are a myriad of different ways she could have approached that topic with biblical perspective without dog-piling that girl. That is not leading anyone to the Kingdom.
Amen!
@@vell5052 she said she went to church 4 days a week😅
If this Melanie person was really a “Christian woman” she would have modesty not just in her dress but what she does. I would think that she would have an avatar of herself instead of being all over RUclips trying to grab the attention of men.
Don’t forget that the devil tried to trip Jesus up by quoting scripture…. Nothing new here.
YESSS. Absolutely agree
That aggressive drunk would've caught this hands severally
The biggest problem to add to your guest's point with Melanie is an arguing method that is called 'reference to authority'. People who want to make a point on something will refer to a reference of authority to claim their point up I.e " I went to church 4 times a week so i know the bible" Melanie wants to use her background from being in the church to support her talking point about scripture, however even somebody who goes to church often can also take talking points out of context.
Kevin Samuels had the same issue. Every time someone called him out for misinterpreting or taking scripture out of context Kevin would get angry, cut them off, and flaunt his “Christian cred” from being involved in single’s ministry when he was younger. I respected Kevin Samuels, and I was sad when he suddenly died. However I won’t lie when I say the man could be very arrogant, disrespectful, and prideful at times especially when it came to scripture. This is a problem with too many so called Christians in the red pill community. They cherry pick certain scriptures to combat the feminist narrative but ignore all the scriptures that condemn toxic behaviors the RP community promotes.
@@armandvega2752 I’ve never really heard Kevin quote scripture, but I didn’t really watch him.
M. King called/compared the other young lady to “The Great Who-e of Babylon,” though I think her comments were harsh, the bigger issue for me is the motivation behind her words. Miss King has made a career of demeaning women of color for the majority of her social media career after KS blew up. I agree with Dr. Mason. Shut it all down as far as relationship “help.”
This was a FIRE cover and expounding. I’ve watched a lot of the redpill environment content lately and have felt the same way as y’all in the spirit. These people have a form of godliness but lack the power thereof. They make some good points, but the pride and lack of fruit shows and contaminates the wisdom routinely.
Agreed. Also, it makes a little sense to browbeat people with the tenants of scripture if they aren't submitted to the supremacy of Christ. A lot of people nowadays want partners that exemplify a biblical mentality but don't actually want to submit to God themselves. Leave the Bible alone if y'all don't want to submit to the Lord in the first place.
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The Bible says "Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord...Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her".
Key phrase --> "your own husbands"
Right. Not men in general. Lol
Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith and in purity. NIV version
Red pill? Blue pill? The correct answer is "No thanks, I don't take pills from strangers; I'm not playing your stupid game and I'm taking neither"
Well if you’re a Christian your gonna have way more in common with red pill then blue pill people…red pillars are more in line with conservative values.
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right! imma just follow the word of God, i’m good!
This is becoming a great RUclips channel !!
Always has been.🤝
This "boss babe" craze is a reaction to men acting a fool. Women got fed up and thought, "I can be a boss and see how you like it- give you a taste of your own medicine" Men do not like it. Ok, men, be a person we WANT to submit to, and we will. Step it up so women don't have to. "Men who are leaders and heads seldom have to remind you" nicely said👌
That’s true, sadly. This isn’t a perfect world; it’s stained by sin and our behavior isn’t the way God wants it to be. Submitting to a husband who loves you like Christ loves the Church is not an issue at all, the problems arise when men *and* women both are acting in their own self interest and with pride. It makes it highly problematic for both to fill the role God wants them to fill; to be selfless and Christ-like. If the husband is acting like a fool and not a man, the wife will find it difficult to submit Biblically. If the wife is being a goober then the husband will have a hard time stepping up and loving her. It’s a synergy.
Where’s the accountability?? Why you are putting your delusion on men and not your parents?
I half way agree with you and here’s why. Scripture doesn’t tell us to submit when it seems right to you. It says to do it period. When it addresses husbands it doesn’t speak on how to treat the wife in the way that seems right to him because he’s flawed. It says to do it period. But first the submission should be unto God. If a man is not acting in the word he will be held accountable and you don’t just follow along with ungodliness (Acts 5) but submit to your husband because it’s the order that God created and in the garden things went out of order when the woman left that submission and was deceived, and Adam was not loving his wife or making her blameless to thethe Lord by following her in sin hence why it’s called Adam’s sin. Someone’s response to sin with sin is not a good reason to sin so being a “boss woman” whether a response or not still is the attitude of feminism which is ungodly. Just like God said we have to forgive because he has forgiven us. Anyone who is not forgiving will not get forgiveness from him. That can suck at times, but we do it because it’s correct. Hard for sure but correct thing to do. Where the full agreement is at is where Men need to do better. MTR is an immoral man, and a lot of culture lead by men is immoral and ungodly. These men will be held accountable and it won’t be good for them when that day of punishment comes, that’s why we need Christ
Slapped with the truth! I'm not submitting to fools.
This is comical to be honest women wanted rights in this case to work because some of there values did not align with those at the time and there was a huge shift from what i understand in women not wanting to stay at home only persay this comment is childish and playing a futile blame game on top of that you've rein interpreted his words in well not massively but somewhat to fit this bias you have.
Just got rebaptized Sunday. Been turned away from the dark road I was. Been working on myself. An now your right. I don’t want to be biblical illiterate and being that, percentile. I’m going to thrive to know my Bible I understand it because I grew up in the church, my whole life and then I turned away at 21 when my mom left but now I’m back in church have two beautiful kids and a wife and I’ve made it a point to make God first, I’m still working on myself but God bless thank you
Truth should be in love, trying to check someone with Truth is wrong if it's not in love towards the other. Tone and body language speaks before your words.
That's not true. Jesus was not always "loving" by the world's standards, which is just a euphemism for kindness, when He shared the truth.
@@U_neeklissYes but he wasn't nasty and she is not Jesus.
@@U_neekliss Jesus was only rude to the pharisees.... Every one else was given the love and truth. Hence the fruit of the spirit . You trying to be contradictory just to be so..
You think acting as this woman did have Jesus glory? No she was being rough. As a woman from the Bronx I can be all kinds of rough.. but that is not Gods way,, when we choose Spirit it reminds us we live by it. Gentle, love, long-suffering,etc... Doing all this with gentleness would have been more fruit filled instead she just caused her defense to go up.
When you come from a rough background learning to Spirit filled is hard because your giving up your way of defense for being Christ like.
Jesus please heal these confused women 🙏🕊️💌✝️
If we all surrender to the Lord and His word then things will fall into place 🙌🏼
L take from Melanie in misconstruing scripture. You can’t tell women to submit to men. That’s not what the Bible says. It says to submit to your husbands! And/or spiritual leadership. If you’re not my husband or spiritual head, I owe you love and respect but not submission. I’m tired of the red pill community asking for submission from women but not self sacrificial love from men.
This was really good! There are so many ppl in these spaces that are just pushing out information yet lack the experience to do so.
She was rude for called her out of her name like that.
Right
mtr is cool usually but he lost me laughing at a woman getting cheated on & finding out on her wedding day &his excuse being “this is what women get”
"Men who are leaders and heads seldom have to remind you that their leaders and heads.." 🔥
Doing the right thing the wrong way is the wrong thing. I had a mentor in the church tell me this when I had gotten a corrective word for someone.
Also, I do believe it’s ok for singles to have wisdom on marriage, the Spirit is the Spirit. Also some of the disciples teaching about marriage were never married. But I do believe there is an experiential wisdom that can also land well. ❤
If only these dating podcasts actually involved wisdom :/
There’s a handful of Christians that have gone on and did some good, but that is far from the norm.
Melanie King wasn’t prescribing her Scripture tho. She was leveraging misquoted Scripture as a platform of authority for her to speak. She said younger women should listen to older women; Titus 2, which she’s referencing describes the requirements for an older woman to be teaching younger women. She says “women should submit to men”; Eph 5, Col 3, 1 Cor 7 are in the context of marriage. Not that you shouldn’t sometimes submit to sound advice from other men, but those passages are about marriage
Also not sure that’s gracious towards the blue-haired rapper. There are many that say “Lord! Lord!” but don’t live it, but when she replied “some have,” I’m not sure if she was saying some men have taken her home and called her wifey or some men have wifed up her friends as godly boss babes. Even if it’s her, some men do go around saying “God told me you’re my wife” after Bible study. Crazy. Not saying she isn’t sleeping around for sure 🤷🏾♂️ If she is, she goes repent and desist
I agree with Ruslan that King ain’t living it out, she probably can’t give the right advice in a precise way either way
So many things wrong in one clip. The delivery & the love you show others is so important. Once you talk to someone the way Melanie was talking to that girl ppl are not going to listen.
It's often the delivery of the message that is the reason that the message can get lost. When you come at someone so harshly, they will automatically put up their defenses. Fire and brimstone has it's place, but this wasn't it. Also, you submit to your husband, not all men.
I think modern women get hung up on the word "submit" because they think it's going back to the 1950's or earlier. Submitting to your husband just means to respect your husband. When you respect someone, you naturally value their opinion, are willing to compromise, nurture them, see them grow, do things for them, etc. The fact that most women are so triggered by the word "submit", shows that they have never been loved correctly and it's sad.
I agree and I think there’s such an misunderstanding and imbalance between the genders on submission. Submission should not be something exerted over women but women ought to be loved into submission. This takes submission by men as well especially to Christ firstly. As lays it out for us in Ephesians, men love your wives as Christ loves the church, and women should respect their husbands.
But why are people expecting unsaved women to understand biblical submission?
@@utamu777 Great Point! But modern feminism has even infiltrated the church today and some Christian women have a hard time with those verses lol on another note, my nickname is Dee too, how funny!
@@deandrajacobs7775 I think traditional feminism did a lot for women. I’ll bet even you had your own bank account. People need to see the difference between “toxic feminism” and traditional feminism. Just like they need to see the difference between “toxic masculinity” and traditional masculinity.
The problem is too many people make too many generalizations. Most of these people in the red pill community don’t even have any credentials for giving “advice” to anyone and most aren’t married or in healthy relationships. IThey also don’t present any statistics for the ridiculous stuff the spew out of their pie holes. It’s just their opinion or perspective. I don’t understand why people listen or take advice from them.
The overall problem is that the word has been misused over time. So there is some healing and some proper teaching that needs to take place.
Original Video: There is also a certain way you talk to people. Over talking, not letting the other young lady actual speak etc. This was not a conversation it was just all “too extra”. It was just a clip I’m sure there is more but I stopped listening to some of those podcasts. The word of God talks about how to speak to people etc.
The cardi B and lizzo effects are toxic and real. I dated a girl for a year and a half. Somewhere in between that time she started listening to cardi and lizzo, and decided that she didn’t want to be a partner in a long term relationship anymore. Instead if us getting married and having kids, she decided that she wanted to be a “strong independent woman.” Our relationship got super toxic and a big headache literally overnight. When I decided to walk away for my sanity, she joined Tinder and started bouncing from dude to dude for one nighters to prove her “sexual liberation.” Towards the end of our relationship, I could literally see her turn from a light-hearted, loving woman, to a type of darkness about her personality.
This happens with men too. My boyfriend of 5 years all the sudden wanted to be a player because of the red pill/Andrew Tate videos getting popular. His whole personality changed. He started online dating and when he got no matches, he wanted to get beck with me. No thanks.
What is so sad is that men are allegedly writing the lyric for Cardi B and many female rappers are written by men so that is why women are being accused of sending masculine energy now a days when they start talking and thinking like the artist. I never heard so many men accuse women of masculine energy so often lately.
That is an issue with the person. If someone is listening to music and using it as a life plan. That is you problem. Music is just music, hell Cardi B is married, she cooks and cleans.
I heard a preacher once say “if you are married and you go to your single family and friends with Your married problems, you will always get single advice. That’s how divorces happen, because there’s too many married folk with single friends.”
I WILL NOT submit to a man who has not SUBMIT TO GOD and the BIBLE. I met a man in church who does not read the Bible and says he doesn’t have to because he has love for everyone and that the way. I had to correct him and said, in the word of God it clearly says the only way is through Jesus, I left him with some biblical knowledge but kept it moving. I love and respect men so much and sometimes I do sound like a pick me girl but sometimes there’s no one advocating for men and i understand their struggles but we as women in church who have a biological clock, hitting 30 and feel sad, find intimacy with Christ and do not idolize marriage, do not submit to a man who has not submit to the will of God. Do not submit to a man who you have to drag to church, I pray everyday that God remove the idolization of marriage and lusting, lay your weakness of the flesh to him and keep it moving until you find a strong man of faith.
If you ever feel useless, remember no one is useless and God loves you all
That young lady never said she wants to be the boss in her relationship or in her home she said today at this point in her life she considers herself A BOSS she has the right to consider herself a Boss in her own right maybe she had to grit and grind and she built her own empire alone then yes she has the right to call herself a Boss this should not be a conversation for that 25 year old woman she isn''t seeking a husband
Cardi wake up
Cardi first needs to get saved and submit to the love of Christ. Her submitting to her husband or a future husband is secondary.
Men are designed to have God-given authority over their families, they are not meant to replace God. Too many people are fighting for a theology where a man takes the place of God in a woman's life
I love you Ruslan, but I wish you'd watch the beginning of that video up until that point where Melanie went at the girl. Would have given you guys more context
I agree with Ms.King .. Stop Using Our Lord If your not going to Walk The Walk.. Period
I think there are occasions when God directly gives wisdom/knowledge to a person on a situation also. That's why we should test all advice and consult God on whatever the situation is. Although the person may not have the experience, if God is the one (truly) inspiring their advice, it would be wise to listen, however, even if they do have the experience and are great, successful examples for you, if the wrong spirit is behind what they are telling you, they will lead you astray.
Dawg, the amount of wisdom here is crazy. 🔥
I also don't understand where the "women should submit to all men" came from. Submission is supposed to be to your husband. Plus if a random man is not respectable morally, why would I be obligated to submit to that man. Basic respect given to humans yes, but submission?
You are absolutely correct. I am a guy that does believe that there are different roles for HUSBANDS and WIVES. The key in this is that it is within marriage and submission is only to your OWN husband, and my self-sacrificial love is only to my OWN wife.
Thank you so much to God for this channel because I was about to loose my head trying to understand why these red pill podcasts never sat well with me, and praying to God for Christians to talk about this.
That’s why, I’m trying to just get right with God and summit to him first! Because God is number one of all things! Than people that follow God path, I will put you in my circle. Love God first not the flesh
All glory to Jesus Christ
Most of these people are the blind leading the blind. Talk to someone who has been married for decades to learn about a healthy relationship.
I think Melanie was right about scripture and that woman who called herself a Christian and many others should refer to themselves as backsliders or something else, if they are engaging in fornication or not really trying to know and follow the Bible.
Ppl don’t wanna listen to ppl who say they just don’t know. Ppl I think are looking for a hero because when you look around and there are so many ppl silent to what is right. That’s why when you do hear a person speaking a inch of truth it’s a commendable because if you look around in our society, no one is speaking up. That’s why we need true followers of Christ to speak up and have that grace and boldness to teach, break bread and just simple show the redemptive life in action. We do know but who’s is bold enough to take the heat that’s the real question.
Dang bro she straight up called her the WOB
She laid out the logical progression . She’s not wrong in the logic
I think an even deeper game is being played....there's a thin line between agent and common fool....
That’s an interesting comment! I think I agree if you mean that Cardi is the agent here
What if, the reason she feels so strongly to give this advice, is because she doesn’t want you to make the mistakes that she’s made? Can’t you talk to a situation that you’ve failed at? Just because you didn’t succeed or aren’t there, doesn’t mean you can’t help people steer clear of the same failures that you’ve experienced.
Thanks for sharing Ruslan. Theses podcasts aren't for people looking to be married. They're to teach men what kind of women to avoid. I worked 2 jobs, raised another man's son, plus my daughters, cleaned, washed clothes, and my wife cheated. I forgave her and it still didn't work out because she refused to be accountable or submissive. I wasn't a perfect husband but I tried to lover her as Christ loved his church.
If your not angered at the filth it's hard for one to understand why she stood so bold
I spotted a crystal on Melanie's neck (not sure if I spelled her name right), she may no longer be a Christian or tangled in spirituality, something that is not positively gazed upon by scripture.
Thanks for adding that last line Ruslan!
Based on that position. That would disqualify the apostle Paul from giving any marriage advice
@ezerk sometimes the truth needs to be judged on its own merit, not by the person it is coming from. yes, we humans often clap back at the messenger if we think of them not living life. That however is often an excuse
This all was so spot on. There’s a difference between knowledge & wisdom. And What he said about Biblical Literacy & Pride!!! It’s a national CRISIS. It’s affecting the whole country.
The bigger problem… when you’re speaking scripture in the wrong Spirit, you don’t have the ears to hear the alternative interpretation. And you don’t have ears to hear correction or the Spirit when He speaks. There’s A LOT of scripture to go through. You have to leave room for spiritual GROWTH or else you will be spiritually dead. 😕
Why the word is the best advice to go on.
Ideally, it is not enough for Melany King to cite the Scriptures, not only for the reasons you mentioned. But a fuller biblical context would be helpful in order to understand the heart and mind of Yahweh concerning relationships. "For God is the the head of Christ. Christ is the head of the husband, and the husband is the head of his wife" (1 Cor. 11:1-3). This is all works together by a genuine love with the wife reciprocating with respect for her husband (Eph. 5:21-32). .
My mother always told me.. you will attract how you dress. I have always took that too ❤. Thanks mom..
Operating under the curse in Genesis 3:16b. ESV. Your desires shall be contrary to your husband. And he will rule over you harshly.
Eric Mason's church is in Philly not New York. I clarified that on the church's website.
Many times, when we present scripture, we have a tendency or our Words and how it comes out can cut like a two edge sword!! If we can get to a space where we can give Truth (scriptural) without pointing, the finger will come across as a place of wisdom. This allows an individual to digest that wisdom and let the Word of God do what it does!! The Bible says, "spread the ggod news of the Kingdom!" People already know who they are don't really want to hear their faults! Following with love and not judging allows a person to open up and receive or not. For example, telling people they're sinners and going to hell is not a good message or good news!! Know one wants to talk to another person when the finger is being pointed at them!! That's the majority of us!! Ego is always tripping and is not our friend. If we come with a different approach, most likely, people are willing to have that conversation. Sharing with people how much God cares for them is a much better way to have that conversation. The Bible tells us the His Word corrects!! Share it with folks and let the Word do the correcting of self!! Don't come or go to people with a rod of whipping people. Let God do what He do with them in love!!
Go to the dinner.
Be honest…
ABOUT *_EVERYTHING_*
***AND do **_NOT_** pity purchase anything.***
You have nothing to lose. Tell her what you think about pyramid schemes, tell her you do not want to purchase anything and support that sort of endeavor, and tell her that you still love her and were hoping you guys could still be friends. Include how excited you were when she invited you out and also include how devastated you were when you found out she was just hocking her website at you after the long, heart-felt message.
Men are blaming modern successful women for their failtures when these men need to step back up. No woman wants a winey man
Women aren’t usually good at knowing when a mans ovservation is a whiney complaint or a valid critique. This is because it depends on the mood the lady is in, if she’s irritated, she’ll convince herself she’s right . Or if she knows she’s wrong, she won’t say it out loud .
Usually a women feels self entitled enough to give herself endless passes and will just gaslight a dude . She’ll tell herself he isn’t man enough , because he is trying to address her issues. A true man will call out nonsense bluntly and directly . Only spineless simps pretend it’s all good when it’s not, because they fear losing her.
A man will try and guide a women into better understanding . If a women constantly denies that, she will always have problems and will be childish in life . You’ll never be able to be honest with her, just pamper endlessly and unrealistically cater .
@@heythere6983 How bold of you to assume how all women are as if you know them all. I guess someone is totally immersed in the redpill lfe. Srsy that way and you’ll see how far you vome with women. When you show them your true colors tho.
Glad you covered this! I was a bit taken back by this clip when I first saw it. I actually watched Melanie King for a bit last year but opted out. Red pill creators that try to use Biblical principles to argue that women should submit always misrepresent scripture. Any Christian who is saying a wife should not submit to her husband or a woman should not submit to church leaders is clearly trippin. But using Scripture to convince women to generally submit to men is incorrect.
Also, I don't know the reason for Ms. King's divorce, but I always thought it weird that her whole schtick was relationships but hers seemingly failed. Seems like you would want to clarify that and qualify yourself as an expert first, but I don't think many people do. Then again maybe she covered it in a video I didn't watch 🤷🏿♀️
Anyhoo, thanks for all you are doing with this channel! I love when I see your reaction to a video I've watched!
When you rebuke someone, it should come from a place of love not in anger or pride. I just got the feeling that she thinks she's learned it all and now she is the teacher. We all fall short of the glory of God. We should never get to a point where we think we know it all. Jesus hung out with the sinners not the saints because they were the ones that needed his love and guidance. He didn't get in their face and yell how wrong they were. He did get in the faces of the pharisees and the"religious leaders" because they thought that they knew it all. I felt sorry for the blue haired girl. ❤
What if The experience is already there?
What if someone is saying "I've done it before and FAILED" and I now know where i failed. And that's the experience I'm giving you now.
Wisdom is found in the counsel of many.
If we vet everyone by their ability to follow without Ever falling short, "There is None Righteous. No not One".
I do agree though, Wives should submit to their OWN Husbands. Not all men.
I also know What one Practices is what One ultimately Perfects.
Melanie is Emotional because she's Tired of seeing the African American/ Black community Falling fiercely by the Wayside and ultimately becoming Shameless.
That's all that's going on. In the Black community there is an underlying Rule that says "Mind Your Business" so this keeps the Older women with Good and Godly intentions from advising the younger ones.
Don't say nothing to my Children
Don't tell me how to be a good Woman. Look at your life. Your marriage didn't work. So you can't tell me nothing.
Then if it is someone who has a Long-term Successful Marriage, they deem/Label them as Old Fashioned and declare to the Older woman that What worked yesterday may not work Today.
Now my brother the main reason I'm sharing this with you as I am of said community, is because Rebellion has no Race or Ethnicity barriers. I'm seeing this same mindset infection filtering into other Communities as well, through politics and Social media and the SJW.
We are called to be an Offense not a Defense. Meaning we don't just stand, we March for The Glory of God's Kingdom ON EARTH as it is In HEAVEN.
Joshua Marched and the Walls of Jericho FELL.
We are called to be an Offense.
Have a Plan and Execute said plan to demonstrate the Power and Love of the Almighty.
Jesus was Offensive, not Vulgar, not heartless, but none of this should make us forget that He still Told it like it was/is.
Jesus: You are of your Father the Devil.
Jesus: You brood of Vipers
Jesus: You Hypocrites
Jesus: My Father's Temple is supposed to be a House of Prayer, But You have turned into a Den of Thieves(As He proceeded to whip the violators and chased them out)
Offense my Brother Not DEFENSE
You can Defend the Gospel from Misinterpretation but Your Life/Existence as a Believer is to be an Offense.
Soldiers Live to fight the Government/Kingdom's cause.
No one has to be married to know marital truth and talk about it.
When she said "the whore of Babylon" I IMMEDIATELY thought about Preacher Pauly on Vampire in Brooklyn lol
Jesus Jesus Jesus please 🙏 take the wheel ❤
(Ephesians 5:22) “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.” (Ephesians 5:25) “Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church and gave himself for it;” (Ephesians 5:33) “Nevertheless, let every one of you in particular love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.”
This particular scripture is referring to what should be done in marriage. Of course, the way you treat others should be a reflection of Christ, but women should not be submitted to all men, only their husbands.
This was an interest in take, Also, I wish she would have expanded on how she spoke to her as there is scripture that talks about speaking to the youth with grace, she also quoted a lot of scripture out of context, but interest take all the same
One thing I don’t understand. She said “what man is taking you home and calling you his wife?” My mind jumped to “That doesn’t make sense.” If “take you home” means what I think it means, from a bar to do you know what, then no man “taking you home” is your husband and so he wouldn’t call you his wife. I don’t know if she was trying to say that or if she was trying to make some dig at Cardi B.
As a Christian woman I would NEVER say those groups “make good assessments” lol. They border on hating women. Their views are more often than not unbiblical and ungodly. So the intro nearly lost me by that sentence🥵
Nothing wrong with being the boss but we must respect the husband
Watching a video talking about a video within a video thats talking about the video within the video. Video inception
12:33 I would tread lightly. Saying “she’s not living out” because she’s divorced may have zero to do with anything. Especially not knowing the situation
Dont be a hard rock when you really just a gem
I ask the same question on why do catholics go to their priests for marriage counseling or why so many people took parenting advice from DR. spock who had no children when he wrote his book?
Won my subscription today, great video. Thanks man
I think a lot of these Red pillers often quote scripture without really knowing the Bible fam. These people don’t take into account that traditionally and culturally, women weren’t allowed in positions where they were FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT WITHOUT MEN.
So when they hear things like “Women being finically independent” or “A woman who’s a Boss Snitch” and they correlate it to the Bible and how men were the providers, they are ignorant of the time and culture of the Bible vs modern day culture.
Men and women that have a traditional, biblical world view end up in a weird position in modern positions. Oftentimes men, find their IDENTITY in being the sole providers (like they were in biblical times) but the truth is being a man is more than being able to provide financially for your family!
I think for the most part your correct about if you ain't living it you don't know. But life has ups and downs. I Kno a lot of things now because of mistakes.. we all do. We Kno what hurts and feels good.. a lot of the time by mistakes. Sometimes you give all you got into a relationship with family, gfs/bfs, friends, team, school, job ect.. and it's them in the wrong. So you learn something new. Advice from a bum doesn't make it worthless. Jesus didn't look like a powerful King or a God of unimaginable power! Knowledge often comes from experiences good ànd bad. Your not smarter, better or happier because your rich. Your just more selfish most likely.
So, what kind of knowledge did Paul have, because he nor Jesus were ever married. Yet, they both gave advice on marriage. Obviously, we understand Jesus has all knowledge, but Paul was very human. I can agree that the majority of people would not be called to give this kind of counseling/advice, but there are def those that are called to do it, though they have no “experience” in the matter.
Can someone help me on 2 things: 1) Define “slam dunked”. 2)Show me where in the Bible truth wasn’t “slam dunked”. Sincerely, I want some help on this.
Not everyone is meant to marry, you will Find that in Mathew. Paul talked about it, he said ideally that people should be like him, chaste and unmarried. I want to say you will find that in Romans or Corinthians. He also talks about submission, but what more does he say, about how men should treat their wifes? To love them as Christ loves the Church. I am not married not meant to be in so far either by Gods will or by decisions I have made, also found in Matthew. So if I were a minister, so long as I talked about marriage as it is explained in scripture, I can talk about it. Scripture is clear. It is written as it was said by our Lord Jesus Christ “Love one and other as I have loved you” , how exquisite.
Well if she was married and got divorced, it’s kind of like an NBA basketball player that never won a trophy but has the battle scars(babies) still.
My issue with the “Red Pill” space isn’t necessarily in the points but the fact those points are used as ammo towards women they see as egregious but these same people aren’t married, believe in 50/50 financial responsibility while wanting submission, and many of them are sexually undisciplined.
I think in the wider spec, Kevin was very charitable to these women.