Julie does not deserve the D-tier. She is heavily underrated. Her ability in fact is amazing, it has the best strategic purpose. Long way to the fuse? No problem, pop that 20s ability. Getting chased by an annoying family member? No problem, pop that 20s ability. Need to get to that gen exit from mid gen spawn in Family House? No problem, pop that 20s ability. Need to quickly change positions? No problem 20s ability is here to help. Want to avoid annoying perma pinging Cook and get to desired destination? 20s ability is here to help again. Julie is fine imo.
yeah no, i love julie but she needs a stat rework to give her more base strengh / endurance. she also need a speed boost because scout makes her ability bad when trying to run away
@@sass_king5576 Julie's ability is fine, she just needs a speed boost since you know... Scout HH is incredibly fast. Maria's ability is cool, but it needs MANY buffs like cancelling grandpa perks and allowing Maria to force grandpa sonars in case he doesn't get fed, family could get a 5% damage reducement so they actually get penalized by getting seen by grandpa since family doesn't give a single fuck about getting detected since it doesn't do much.
Thought that too until I ran for 30+ seconds straight in the basement away from Bones without Wire Frame, made literally zero distance and had to grapple him to be able to hide around a corner
As a Maria Player, She is not above Sonny. Her ability is the only one of the victims that depends on how the enemy will play, In addition to her having to expose herself to danger. Sonny can do the same as her and better, the player just needs to communicate
Besides, her attributes are kind of meh. She has 20 stealth (unnecessary) and little endurance. Another negative point is the lack of good perks on her, like: chose fight. Geez, her sister has it and she doesn't.😢
@@matheuspinheiro6901 her perks are her only downside in my opinion. Her ability does depend on the families playstyle, yes, but if they want to level up Grandpa, they will get very little use out of him and if they dont, then they are missing out on another family member basically. and her attribute points are the same as Anas which I find to be perfect but thats subjective I guess.
They need to buff her ability and tree a lot. As an Ana main I bought her because I love Maria, but I'm disappointed of her being the worst victim atm, I still play her fuse build sometimes tho.
@@Jurbi2104 Nobody cares about grandpa to be honest, against good victims who push objectives, unless you rush him with Bones, feeding him is a detriment, if you feed him with Bones, no one, not even Maria, will be able to do anything but escape before the permanent lvl 5 nightmare begins. Besides, if anyone else feeds grandpa, Agitator does Maria's whole job better, Maria's stats are very average and her tree needs serious buffs.
I feel like a lot of people underestimate Sonny. He is good (i would say B tier) because of his flexibility. If you want to make him a fighter then you can; if you want to make him a lock picker then you can. Also his ability can be very good on more closed in/short sightline maps.
I do think Sonny is slept on, still not the best victim imo, but I think there are certainly some Sonny experts out there who really use him to his maximum efficiency!
Virginia's kit is great. What she has going on is very powerful and enjoyable. However, she is easily an F tier and deserves worse. Not because of her stats, her abilities, or her perks. It's her Voice. Oh my goodness does she never stay quiet. All she does is blabber and whine in that high pitched mom tone every two seconds. Anytime I play victim and a Virginia is in game. I pray she ends up running into leatherface. Just so I don't have to hear her talk. I wish the stealth attribute actually affected how often a character talks. That way, I could actually be okay playing her.
Honestly, I respect you so much for this lol. The turkey queen herself really is next level when it comes to yapping. Fully agree about the stealth attribute though. That should 100% be a thing.
Julie and Sonny are both extremely more reliable than Maria. Literally the average Maria main dies in 2 minutes or without doing much in majority of games. Maria and Maria players are not good. Julie at D tier is laughable. Maria over julie. I just feel like your not a good player saying that
Maria is the worst victim, average stats, Worst ability and worst skill tree, Julie has an average ability, decent more or less stats and the best skill tree in the whole game, Sonny has a great ability, stats and skill tree. Definitely agree with you.
Totally respect your thought process there! I'd love to know where you'd place Julie then in a tierlist? Is she still second to last? Do you have Sonny worst? Seems like many people certainly think Julie is last but I just don't feel that based on my experiences.
As an ana main, I agree her placement. I find myself being a tank for my team. Gas station/Family house/SH are fav maps to loop on her running like 50 toughness/stamina on my ana I can loop like I'm back on Dead By daylight sometimes lol, Julie's placement is odd to me. I have looped 2 people as julie before many many times due to her ability and slipperyness (Currenely 1400 hours rn on steam)
I've learned most from other people's thoughts here that I need to play more Julie! Seems like a LOT of people have her higher so I need to re-evaluate her! I do think other victim's abilities are better but Julie herself is still a great character and her ability can be very useful at times!
@Nerevar-moonand-star Her skill tree is the worst one, Her stats are Ana's (and they're not good after the grapple rework since 30 strength is practically useless) and her ability against a Blood Bones build does absolutely nothing other than inverting two sonars which are like 24 seconds and then back to the chaos with still a long cooldown.
@Nerevar-moonand-star I agree she can get saboteur and bomb squad with more perks, I have done great plays with that, the problem is that it's Danny's role to do that and he does it better. They're really meant for each other 🥰
Play style has a lot to do with who you think is a good victim. You have stealthy characters at the bottom of your list, and family bullies at the top. Based on my play style, i would have an opposite list. Ive been Sonny and Julie main since game started. Sonny stunt double back when he had the reusable lock pick perk, and when noone used him because they thought he was weak. Julie was great when she had the grandpa stab perk.
Very very true! I generally based my list off of my playstyle and how I see others play and their usual strategies. And speaking of this, literally played against a Sonny just yesterday in 2 different games who was so stealthy the whole game. He was using his ability to max potential and the only time we found him was after we'd move away and he'd make his tactical move. Playstyle (and skill) really is everything!
I don't wanna overreact to wyatt just yet but his ability is pretty insane, once I see more people using his ability well he'll probably get bumped up. I personally feel Leland is in a good spot tho.
I def wouldn't say no to a skill tree rework for her. And yeah the stats being the same as Ana's was an interesting choice. I get why they did it, but it would have been nice to see more variety.
@czempin23 Ye, I totally agree with you about him being weak, but if you're a good victim, then he could be higher on the list, but I'm just giving a reason why he could be placed higher
@@skeletoasty Maria is the worst victim, worst ability, average stats and worst skill tree. Julie on the other Hand has an average ability, bad stats but the best skill tree in THE WHOLE GAME.
@@BigmanPinguYT Sonny in the right hands is strong but finding a good Sonny in the wild is like finding a $100 bill on the ground. It might happen, but probably won't.
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Julie does not deserve the D-tier. She is heavily underrated. Her ability in fact is amazing, it has the best strategic purpose. Long way to the fuse? No problem, pop that 20s ability. Getting chased by an annoying family member? No problem, pop that 20s ability. Need to get to that gen exit from mid gen spawn in Family House? No problem, pop that 20s ability. Need to quickly change positions? No problem 20s ability is here to help. Want to avoid annoying perma pinging Cook and get to desired destination? 20s ability is here to help again. Julie is fine imo.
yeah no, i love julie but she needs a stat rework to give her more base strengh / endurance. she also need a speed boost because scout makes her ability bad when trying to run away
@@sass_king5576 Even tho I agree, she's much better than Maria. Her ability is better and she has the best skill tree.
@HectorFernandezPereira yeah i agree, i think both julie & maria need an ability rework
@@sass_king5576 Julie's ability is fine, she just needs a speed boost since you know... Scout HH is incredibly fast. Maria's ability is cool, but it needs MANY buffs like cancelling grandpa perks and allowing Maria to force grandpa sonars in case he doesn't get fed, family could get a 5% damage reducement so they actually get penalized by getting seen by grandpa since family doesn't give a single fuck about getting detected since it doesn't do much.
Thought that too until I ran for 30+ seconds straight in the basement away from Bones without Wire Frame, made literally zero distance and had to grapple him to be able to hide around a corner
Maria above Sonny and Julie is hilarious
More Maria hate D:
As a Maria Player, She is not above Sonny. Her ability is the only one of the victims that depends on how the enemy will play, In addition to her having to expose herself to danger. Sonny can do the same as her and better, the player just needs to communicate
Besides, her attributes are kind of meh. She has 20 stealth (unnecessary) and little endurance. Another negative point is the lack of good perks on her, like: chose fight. Geez, her sister has it and she doesn't.😢
@@matheuspinheiro6901 her perks are her only downside in my opinion. Her ability does depend on the families playstyle, yes, but if they want to level up Grandpa, they will get very little use out of him and if they dont, then they are missing out on another family member basically. and her attribute points are the same as Anas which I find to be perfect but thats subjective I guess.
Also Maria’s attributes do nothing for her idk why they gave her the same as anas she should’ve been a toughness and proficiency like Danny imo
They need to buff her ability and tree a lot. As an Ana main I bought her because I love Maria, but I'm disappointed of her being the worst victim atm, I still play her fuse build sometimes tho.
@@Jurbi2104 Nobody cares about grandpa to be honest, against good victims who push objectives, unless you rush him with Bones, feeding him is a detriment, if you feed him with Bones, no one, not even Maria, will be able to do anything but escape before the permanent lvl 5 nightmare begins. Besides, if anyone else feeds grandpa, Agitator does Maria's whole job better, Maria's stats are very average and her tree needs serious buffs.
Are you good? Wyatt is in his own tier above everyone! Able to trick shot across the map with the better Danny ability is Nuts!
I don't wanna overreact to Wyatt just yet. Maybe after a few weeks when players really start to get good with him then I'll move him higher up!
S: Leland, Connie, Virginia & Wyatt
A: Danny & Ana
B: Sonny
C: Julie
E or F: Maria
Having Maria over Sonny and Julie is wild. Julie is literally S tier in my hands. Sonny can be B tier. Maria is F
Your tier list is very accurate I'd say Julie is B too tho because of her skill tree.
I feel like a lot of people underestimate Sonny. He is good (i would say B tier) because of his flexibility. If you want to make him a fighter then you can; if you want to make him a lock picker then you can. Also his ability can be very good on more closed in/short sightline maps.
I do think Sonny is slept on, still not the best victim imo, but I think there are certainly some Sonny experts out there who really use him to his maximum efficiency!
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Virginia's kit is great. What she has going on is very powerful and enjoyable.
However, she is easily an F tier and deserves worse. Not because of her stats, her abilities, or her perks.
It's her Voice. Oh my goodness does she never stay quiet. All she does is blabber and whine in that high pitched mom tone every two seconds.
Anytime I play victim and a Virginia is in game. I pray she ends up running into leatherface. Just so I don't have to hear her talk.
I wish the stealth attribute actually affected how often a character talks. That way, I could actually be okay playing her.
Honestly, I respect you so much for this lol. The turkey queen herself really is next level when it comes to yapping.
Fully agree about the stealth attribute though. That should 100% be a thing.
Julie and Sonny are both extremely more reliable than Maria. Literally the average Maria main dies in 2 minutes or without doing much in majority of games. Maria and Maria players are not good. Julie at D tier is laughable. Maria over julie. I just feel like your not a good player saying that
Maria is the worst victim, average stats, Worst ability and worst skill tree, Julie has an average ability, decent more or less stats and the best skill tree in the whole game, Sonny has a great ability, stats and skill tree. Definitely agree with you.
Totally respect your thought process there! I'd love to know where you'd place Julie then in a tierlist? Is she still second to last? Do you have Sonny worst? Seems like many people certainly think Julie is last but I just don't feel that based on my experiences.
As an ana main, I agree her placement. I find myself being a tank for my team. Gas station/Family house/SH are fav maps to loop on her running like 50 toughness/stamina on my ana I can loop like I'm back on Dead By daylight sometimes lol, Julie's placement is odd to me. I have looped 2 people as julie before many many times due to her ability and slipperyness (Currenely 1400 hours rn on steam)
I've learned most from other people's thoughts here that I need to play more Julie! Seems like a LOT of people have her higher so I need to re-evaluate her! I do think other victim's abilities are better but Julie herself is still a great character and her ability can be very useful at times!
Wyatt with level 3:Wyatt
S tier:Connie, Danny, Virginia, Leland,Wyatt with not level 3
A tier:Ana, sunny
B tier:Maria and Julie
Maria is much worse than Julie, she's D or E tier.
@HectorFernandezPereiraMaria ability is ok but against a bones blood build she petty good and her skill tree and stats are good as well
@Nerevar-moonand-star Her skill tree is the worst one, Her stats are Ana's (and they're not good after the grapple rework since 30 strength is practically useless) and her ability against a Blood Bones build does absolutely nothing other than inverting two sonars which are like 24 seconds and then back to the chaos with still a long cooldown.
@HectorFernandezPereiraalr you win but at least there some good perk she can get for a good build I think Maria is just c tier for until they buff her
@Nerevar-moonand-star I agree she can get saboteur and bomb squad with more perks, I have done great plays with that, the problem is that it's Danny's role to do that and he does it better. They're really meant for each other 🥰
Sonny in C Tier is insane. I would say he's actually A Tier
I respect that! With the right playstyle and build Sonny can indeed be very strong!
virginia is a BEAST her stats are UNDEAFEATED I sweaar how do I have two attributes to 35 and one 50 with only 25 attribute points
Virginia is NUTTY. Definitely one of the strongest victims in the right hands!
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Play style has a lot to do with who you think is a good victim. You have stealthy characters at the bottom of your list, and family bullies at the top. Based on my play style, i would have an opposite list. Ive been Sonny and Julie main since game started. Sonny stunt double back when he had the reusable lock pick perk, and when noone used him because they thought he was weak. Julie was great when she had the grandpa stab perk.
Very very true! I generally based my list off of my playstyle and how I see others play and their usual strategies. And speaking of this, literally played against a Sonny just yesterday in 2 different games who was so stealthy the whole game. He was using his ability to max potential and the only time we found him was after we'd move away and he'd make his tactical move. Playstyle (and skill) really is everything!
Putting leland and wyatt in A tier is insane S tier %100
Wyatt definitely does belong in S, but not Leland. He's overrated.
@@czempin23agreed, Wyatt’s level 3ability rn is very strong and Leland is def overrated
@@czempin23 Leland's not overrated, Leland and Connie are the most needed victims in the whole game.
Leland is the best imo. My main 👍
I don't wanna overreact to wyatt just yet but his ability is pretty insane, once I see more people using his ability well he'll probably get bumped up. I personally feel Leland is in a good spot tho.
S: Wyatt, Leland
A: Connie, Ana, Danny
B: Virginia, Julie, Sonny
C: Maria
Thank you for sharing! Virginia is lower than I'd expect but everything else is pretty close!
I love Maria I just hate how her stats are literally just Anas aand maby a lil tree rework would be nice
I def wouldn't say no to a skill tree rework for her. And yeah the stats being the same as Ana's was an interesting choice. I get why they did it, but it would have been nice to see more variety.
Danny can counter hands
He certainly can! Even if Danny doesn't get a tamper off, the threat of it is still very strong! Especially if you have someone else with Saboteur.
Did I cook with this tier list or nah?
Nah, Sonny S tier because he is the only victim that can have legit wall hacks, and he can also keep the family distracted with is ability
@@BigmanPinguYTI don't know about you man, but I'm never concerned about Sonny when I'm playing Family. He's definitely on the weaker side.
@czempin23 Ye, I totally agree with you about him being weak, but if you're a good victim, then he could be higher on the list, but I'm just giving a reason why he could be placed higher
@@skeletoasty Maria is the worst victim, worst ability, average stats and worst skill tree.
Julie on the other Hand has an average ability, bad stats but the best skill tree in THE WHOLE GAME.
@@BigmanPinguYT Sonny in the right hands is strong but finding a good Sonny in the wild is like finding a $100 bill on the ground. It might happen, but probably won't.
Connie should be much higher
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Leland is S my main 🫡
Respect! o7