Who you got: ‘99 Broncos or ‘01 Ravens?
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Shannon chose ravens cause he knows he would've had to block 52 being on the broncos
Peter bowlware and Jamie sharper where both multiple times pro bowlers at the other 2 linebacker spots . He don't want to go over that middle lol
Chad Ochocinco blocked Ray Lewis. When I saw him in person I didn't ask for a picture or autograph I just asked him about that play his response "highly do not recommend" 😂😂😂😂
@@MV12267 you talking about when he hit him in the endzone? That wasn't designed for him to block he wanted to hit Ray not block coaches would never lol
@@guy54233 I know lol. Terrible idea
@@akeemtayron Goose and Adams!
That Ravens defense was vicious. You couldn't move the ball.
Nope. Run or pass. Them boys was NASTY
Lol hell they couldn't either ray Lewis was begging their offense for 13 points .they were loosing 13 to10 12 to 9 etc would rather play them than a team that adverage 28 to 30 a game.
Steelers Defense as well during the same era
@@professorfinnih steelers had a hell of an offense too
And dirty!
Pat homes somewhere yelling at Kelce to stfu lol
Edit: holy f! Thank y'all for the likes!
Right lmao
Kelce would be retired if they brought that back lol
30 used to be ancient by football standards
Was looking for this comment
@@Aaron-kj8dv You must be young do you know a lot of those players from the 90's and 00's played until their late 30's
@@Aaron-kj8dv 🧢
That Ravens defense was legendary. I will have to give the edge to them.
Plus they had two killer backs in the backfield. Priest Holmes and Jamaal Lewis
There defense was so good there offense went weeks with out scoreing a td an some how they still managed to win them games by just kicking fgs
I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but that Ravens defense played against some bad quarterbacks.
That Broncos team beats the at least by 2 scores.
@@jeromepowell1873 nigga what.... plz know what u talkin bout before u go talkin crazy. ravens would have beat the broncos easily. plus we had a shit qb in 01 so we was always on defense nd still had the best Defense of all time. not to mention the titans stole the ravens playbook for a playoff game nd still lost. u literally cant argue against the 01 ravens at all cs it aint close one bit. only other team das close is maybe the 02 bucs.
Travis saying “bring that back” until someone knocks Pat Mahomes out the game 🤣
Pat is a machine, he'd still finish the game!
1 leg SB MVP
@@MsLissa816the man rose to his feet and almost collapsed in a playoff game a few years back and that was against the browns defense the ravens would put him in a coma😂
@@MsLissa816 until he have to see we reed and ray Lewis 😂 u think them qbs they beat were soft?
@@MsLissa816 Nah, Steelers defense in 2010 and the ravens between 99 and 2003. Ray Lewis, crazy work.
They werent tackling legs or ankles. They aimed for quarterbacks chests or horsecollars and slinging 5 yards. 😂 You can't do that nowadays. But Patrick Mahomes would be out. Tua would be retired after one game 😂
@@andrewswing9917 every player that playing right now would be out the league lol
Only team I've ever heard of where their offense went five straight weeks without scoring a TD and they still went 2-3 during that stretch. Just absurd. Made Corey Dillon refuse to enter a game in the fourth quarter.
I didn’t know that about Dillon, what year did that happen?
@@PJ3721 It was 2000. Ravens v Bengals. Dillon ended up with 16 carries for 23 yards and at one point in the fourth quarter, refused to re-enter the game after being given a breather. The Bengals were the home team. I just looked it up. It was week 10 of the 2000 season.
That shit was funny tbh.. I watched the doc on the ESPN. That raven's defense was supr nasty. R.i.p. big goose!!!
@@segagenesis7708 live in cincinnati and a ravens fan i was at that game ..COREY SAID PHUCK THAT...i got a career to think about🤣🤣🤣🤣 they sat the starter for that game because they knee whatvwas goingvto happen...saterted akili smith ..sam adams and tonybsiragusa knocked him out the game and the start and Corey refused to go into the game😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 thats by far thebbest Defense I've ever seen live on the field they played at a different speed than the other team..#purpleREIGN
They went 3-2
Ravens, that defense was the nastiest defense I've ever witnessed
Shay has given the Ravens nonstop respect for decades.
Gilgeous-Alexander?
Unk goes by Shay not Shai
Cause he was on that team lol
Because he is a Raven.
Once a Raven, always a Raven.
@@duffal0shai is pronounced as "shy", not shay.
If Kelcie don’t stfu 😂 if they brought that back linebackers & safety’s would have him in hospital coming in middle of the field💀
If they bring that back chiefs will never win another superbowl
@@kurtkremer5631 Why wouldn't they win? Somebody has to win.
@@jeromepowell1873 But not them
@@KwuajaeGotTaste So who then, the Cowboys?
@@jeromepowell1873 I would say whatever team is most physical & do their assignment. Closest team to ever get close to ravens defense was Legion of Boom with Cam Chancellor. Talk about New age physicality !! They made big hits & they was all legal
I am a realist. I know the sport needs to evolve and I also know that it can be a very dangerous sport. We have to make it safer, but there should never be a total loss of the carnal instinct that makes true football players football players. Love listening to you three legends have a conversation!
Hardly ever see educated comments. Good stuff💪🏾
Its the NFL we don't need it sheet safer. All levels below safer is okay.
@@Chris-2 What are you talking about? Rugby players are the only people with a HIGHER concussion and injury rate than football players.
Violence is not always bad, its good to have a sport the channel that. Injuries suck, especially head ones. But the game does not need continual tweaking and rules changes. There is an agreed risk to playing football.
@@dnaharis7037 bruh. Nobody trying to die or be paralyzed tho. Just to play a game. 🤫
As a Steelers fan, I miss those early 2000-2015 Ravens/Steelers games. The best 10-7 games you'll ever watch
Those games were so intense and entertaining. I distinctly remember one of the 2010 games, Steelers were down 10-6 with less than 5 minutes remaining. Nobody blocks Polamalu and he strip sacks Flacco. Steelers recover and score to win 13-10.
Yeah I'm a Ravens fan, I hated the steelers so much back then and vice versa, one steelers fan tried to run me over because of it.
But I loved those games so much, I remember when we broke Ben's nose and he broke it back in place and finished the game, qbs and players in general were a different breed back then. Those games were way more high octane then games nowadays because way more guys get hurt with way less contact. Tbh I'll probably stop watching the NFL within a few seasons, I honestly think the generation after this one is gonna be way more soft just like this generation is soft and if football gets any softer, I don't think I'll care about it anymore. Literally every single play a wide receiver is looking for a flag, and every sack the QB immediately looks at the ref because they know there's a 90/10 chance they're gonna get a flag.
It makes me think these guys are pusses every time I watch football.
I just said that exact thing to my son last week
Period!! The Ravens and steelers had some of the nastiest teams in between those years. Honestly, no new age team could hang with those teams consistantly. They would lose to many players
I agree. That's when Ravens vs Steelers was the gold standard for physicality. Even fans of other teams salivated to watch those games.
I do miss when you could sack the QB without getting a 15 yard roughing the passer call
Yeah but on the other hand you could get away with destroying wide receivers before the ball got to them.
Travis does realize Ed Reed and Ray Lewis would've sent him to the hospital in the 1st quarter after he tried to catch a slant over the middle
Ed Reed wasn’t on that team he came the following year..they had Rod Woodson and Corey Harris/Anthony Mitchell at safety
@@KingDizzleLTDinc. On top of forgotten legend Duane Starks, and the beast Chris McCallister at Corner. What a fucking No Fly Zone that was.
@@DCapps1994 facts
T.K. wouldn't have been catching passes over the middle against that defence.
Reed wasn't on that SB team.
the fact he still remembers the end of every drive is crazy!
He gave his answer without giving his answer, since he didn't want to diminish those amazing bronco teams.
In 20 games the Ravens gave up 188 points. Total. The entire regular and post season.
And wasn’t like 38 in one game against Jacksonville when Jimmy Smith went off?
Imagine only giving up 19 offensive tds in 20 games.
Its really less than that, because Tony Banks threw several pick sixes before he was benched for Dilfer..and of course those ints for pts count against the defenses points scored total.
@@matthewelmore656736 but yes
This podcast has to become a permanent NFL fixture for good!
I can definitely see Travis being the mouth of the Midwest when he retires!💯
2000 ravens. Elway was limited by that tome and i dont think TD wouldve been able to breakthrough against that defense
Don't underestimate that Ravens offense keeping the Broncos in the game.
@@96tolife yup. Take away the run game and Shannon Sharpe and the offense was straight booty
@@sterlingwilliams8645 Damn, take away the two biggest weapons on the offense and then it gets worse, who would’ve guessed 🙄
@@sterlingwilliams8645 With Sharpe and the run game they still were not good. They went five consecutive games without an offensive touchdown that season. The defense was great, but that offense is why beating the champion Broncos teams would not be an automatic.
No one was running on that defense not even Davis. They would have stuffed the run and then they would have got to elway. I mean that defense was the greatest defense I’ve ever seen. I didn’t see the 85 bears but I’d consider that ravens defense the greatest ever
As a Raven fan I watch that ‘01 season and Ravens defense was straight demon time.
The 01 Ravens who lost to Pittsburgh in the playoffs. How so?
@@aaronjackson9385 they won the Super Bowl in 01 that’s how.
@@JvoDre doesnt matter when they won the SB..nobody calls the 85 Bears, the 86 Bears and no one calls the 2000 Ravens, the 2001 Ravens. Your snide remark couldve stayed to yourself..why cant you just say my bad and admit your mistake?
I will take that 2000 Ravens defense against any offense. They were special for sure.
Best Defense I ever seen
Any offence? Even the 07 Pats with Moss,Welker and Stallworth? I dunno man. As soon as they spread 5 wide, you'd have to play Nickel or dime negating LB's for corners. Different game, wouldnt work.
@davidstegne3036 takeaway all the CHEATING that New England did and see good they were.
Where's a question for ya ravens defense vs the legion of boom
@@keyshawnestberg I will take the 2000 Ravens defense over any defense in NFL history. L.O.B was very, very good D, but that 2000 Ravens D was something special.
Travis know he don't want nobody knocking Pat out the game😂😂
lol Travis said that at the end but when the clip ends he’s like “except to Patrick! I need more rings!” 😂
😂😂 seems like me and you were the only ones that watched the interview
What's impressive to me is Shays knowledge and how he's sparking off the scores for the ravens D then the possessions.. Fn love Shay Shay lol
That Ravens offense was the opposite of that defense.
No argument there
😂😂😂Trent Dilfer was just along for the ride basically
@@estebanq.urkelthevxiith8495 He just did his job and we ain't mad at him for that! Salute to Dilfer!
@@BootCampBrandon Facts. He did his job. AKA NOT FUCKING UP.
The rbs and tes were great. Qb and Wrs were kinda dog crap
Ravens defense was so great that the nfl saw them and said you shouldn’t be allowed in our rules to hit that hard
Brady some where like why are yall looking at me What did I do?!?!?
Brady would have not won any Superbowl
That “00 Ravens squad was the closest thing to the ‘85 Bears I’ve ever seen.
Yep
they were better than the 85 bears, allowed fewer points, both won the super bowl.
They only team that gave the 2000 Ravens team a match was the Titans and not did the Ravens beat ‘em twice that year but held them to 10 points in the playoff game and was the only team to defeat the Titans at home for like 2 years..they were the real deal..
2000s Steelers vs Ravens will always be my favorite version of football,the absolute hate on the field but nothing but respect afterwards,bloodthirsty games everytime
I would literally not work on days we matched up against the steelers I would call out .............hated Joey porter,Hines ward,Ike Taylor,big Ben but would never call them bums or trash respectful of them......... most fun was them late December match ups
@@kevinspencer3242 Decades later Fuck Hines Ward. I remember watching those games with my dad hoping someone would knock that shitty grin off his face. Hated that guy.
2001 Ravens Defense was the best ever. It was crazy to watch
2000 Ravens, not 2001. The 2001 Ravens got ran over by Amos Zereoue and eliminated by Pittsburgh in the Divisional Round.
The NFL jumped the shark when they regulated defense out of the game. You can't hit the QB, you can't hit the WRs crossing the middle, and everything is PI
Don’t blame the nfl. Blame CTE
They didn't, it had to happen because the brain damage is real and serious. But i do miss it sometimes
Smack your head against a wall a couple times and see if you can get those 2 braincells you got to run into each other, it might give you a better idea of why they changed the rules.
Some of that violence is unnecessary so I like the rule change Guys are so freakishly athletic you can’t outlaw speed and power so NFL will still bang
@@camcunningham9443 But the NFL added more games , so they really don't care about player's safety.
Meanwhile Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson feel a shiver up their spine and don't know why.
@@kgema89 I think mahomes and burrows would give them hell due to there passing attack they don’t focus on funn 1st
@@petercervantes7220 at that time some defenders would gladly take a penalty and possible fine if it knocked a superstar QB out of the game
@@petercervantes7220 🙄 bruh. Opposite. Mahommes, burrow would be tore up under old Rules.And Look at the stats (circa) pre 2000 QBs put up.. less time to throw and less throws over middle.
I hear that but at the same time those qbs were statues back then as well compared to today's QB. Every one of them can move now.
@@petercervantes7220 burrows getting smacked lmfao
Bring back old Ravens defense. With Lamar and our defense, we are back to the Superbowl baby!!
They fr won a sb with trent dilfer at qb 😂😂😂 Imagine lamar 😂😂😂
They’ll never be another defense like that again because of the rule changes
Trav knows damn well he don't want to bring back that kind of football 😂😂
Right😂 he’d be out first qrt 🎯😂
Bring that back until Mahomes ankle is on the back of his head then its protect the players😂😂😂
I’m not sure today’s players are even wired that way anymore
Jason’s “wow” was both so subtle yet alarming at the same time.
Me too, Jason. Me too!
Ravens about to bring that back 💯💯💯💯
That Ravens Defense was the best! You could not score more than 10 points on them.
Literally in 2020 the Bucs held the team Kelce was on to 9 points in the SB. The game is different for sure - less physical - but defenses can still shine given the right match ups
Stop it, the KC o-line was in shambles. Mahomes was running for his life the whole game......I never seen a team get so much luck in one season like Tampa did in 2020
Tampa got into the playoffs as a wildcard, beat a scrappy Washington team, then beat the Saints, the Packers, and the Chiefs playing all on the road except the SB itself. I wouldn't call that lucky, that's a gauntlet. A WC team has only won the SB six times since 1970. You can try and justify the loss all you want, but the fact is they didn't even score a TD. Mahomes was bailing on the pocket way too early trying to play hero ball. His line did him no favors, but he also left them high and dry by running around 10 yards behind the line to throw into coverage or get sacked. KC just got outplayed and out coached from top to bottom that game.
@ThePhDSpanish and why did you think he was running around ??? CAUSE HIS LINE WAS DEPLETED !!!!!! What happened earlier in the season when the 2 teams played ? KC dam near ran them boys out the building. Luckily halftime happened so Tampa could regroup.....Tampa won a Covid year SB and then had a home game......I would call that Big Time Luck.
@@inevitableexpertise1016 Sounds like a bunch of excuses. Every team faced covid conditions, and KC got dominated in the second half of that first game WITH a healthy o-line, squeaking out a 27-24 win after being up 17-0 in the first half. That was before TB's bye, after which they ended up going undefeated once Brady started putting in his plays. What difference would having a normal away SB really have made? Would the Chiefs have played better in LV, or anywhere else?
@ThePhDSpanish I don't respect a piss poor franchise that was in the basement for a decade and a half trying to buy a SB and then their fans bragging like they're some all time great team.....The Buccaneers are a terrible franchise & got saved by Brady pretty much because they are based in Florida, but they're going right back into the woodwork for another decade because he's gone....and you can call me a hater or say I have excuses or sour grapes whatever you want but the bottom line is, is that's reality
"Knock the QB out. Bring back that football!" Hilarious how Travis Kelce of all people says that. If Chiefs lose Mahomes to a season ending injury, they have 0 chance at a Super Bowl. Ever since Brady got his ACL torn and Rodgers got his collar bone broken, NFL protects star QBs at ALL COSTS.
Ray Lewis is a different Beast 💯
Shannon Sharpe is a dynasty
Shanon is trash
That Ravens Defense along with the 85 Bears and some of the Giants Defenses and some of the old Chiefs defenses would absolutely tear up the league today
Lets put the Steelers in there, and im a Giants Fan but the Steele curtain was legit for a couple of seasons.
And let's not Forget Tampa Bay with Lynch, Sapp, Brooks and how dominant their Super Run and performance was.
@@Peakfreud glad you mentioned them. I was just mentioning what immediately came to mind such as LT, DT, Bill Parcells and Bill Bellechicks defenses, totally didn't think of Dungy when I should have when he's a prodigy of Marty Schottenheimer , and of course the Steel Curtain, the 49ers and Ronnie Lott were bad to the bone too
@@jackson5781 Oh Absolutely... That Tampa Defense and Ravens defense IMO was the last defensive Era of Football.
@Pink Freud .. Seattle from a few years ago too
Just had to do a refresher, it’s wild that the 2000 Ravens only had 5 pro bowlers. Smh that team defensively was loaded
The 2000 Ravens would beat the 99 Broncos, that defense was unstoppable.
2000 Ravens 😊 not 01
The 01 ravens were not that good…your talking about the 2000s ravens
The playoffs was in 2001 but the team is considered the 2000 ravens since the season started in 2000.
@@essianzzzz2206 Yeah you're right, I don't know why they made the title that
If that team just had an AVERAGE QB, they would've been undefeated IMO.
All I know is that would have been a hellva match-up!!!
That RAVIN Defense was out of control . Two lock down Corner back and average a sack every 5 plays ... They where killing people the night before the super bowl.
They should forever have that 01 Ravens team on every Madden game!
2000
Shannon Sharpe is the only player in NFL history to block for two 2k rushers. He made LBs and safeties take a step back.
People don't understand , that Ravens defense was so dominant they're the only team on NFL history that could've legitimately made the claim it didn't matter who tf was playing QB for them
Facts
I take that Back, Jim McMahon was barely average for the 85 bears, they would have won with Tomzack or a Loaf of bread at Q.B
With Walter Payton carrying the rock.
It really didn't
That Ravens defense was special.
It’s Ravens. That defense may have been the greatest ever.
Yeah right and that offense sucked the Broncos were great in all three phrases Broncos would whoop the Ravens
'85 Bears D was a joke then????
Football def way softer than it was 20 years ago man
Even 10yrs ago
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
@@dotenks It is a bad thing. No one is forcing you to play contact football, but the fun of it is somewhat driven by the inherent danger imo. The defense has fun hitting the offense damn hard, and the drive for the offense is to play without getting hit! Contact football has and should have serious risks, because that's the name of the game (for the defense at least). We need more hitting the quarterback, as long as he hasn't thrown it yet, you should be able to body him. That's your drive, that's your job. That makes the O-Line have to work their ass off to protect the QB
2001 Ravens would take any SB team in history. Not just because of the jawdropping defense, but because Trent Dilfer was the right QB for that team. He took what he could get, protected the ball, and checked his ego at the door. #LEGENDS #Ravensflock
I became a football fan watching those late 90s Denver broncos teams they still in my heart
Kermit is soft, Travis doesn't really want that brought back.
Broncos getting that…Elway and TD getting something and that broncos d was elite
I'm with you on that.
Shannon had the plays on lock in his mind 👏🤯
He knew his def plays and Mind you he was offense !!!
I would literally give a testicle to bring defense back to the NFL. I'm also a die hard Raven fan so🤷🏾♂️
Gahdamn he remembered all that??
Kinda hard to forget the monster that was the Ravens d back then. They did things on the field back then that would get you arrested in today's world 😂
@@dravenmlm4185 That shit was aggravated assault back then lol
I swear I be wanting some of these quarterbacks to be put on they ass frfr
I would never wanna play against that raven Defense, say just seeing Ray Lewis come out that tunnel was enough 😂😂😂
Early 2000s football was amazing
Kelce don't want that smoke, knock his ass out too!
That ravens defense is my favorite of all time. Some other good ones out there too
The key to that ravens defense was they were always communicating with each other so nobody missed an assignment
They had great leadership at every level up the middle. Ngata was listed around 350 lb but looked more like he ate a 300 lb guard yesterday. Ray Lewis and Ed Reed leading backers and secondary is real life cheat codes.
CORRECTION: Ed Reed wasn't there until the following season.
@@chilboswaggins5500 they had Rod Woodson at free safely who was also one of the best DBs in history.
You can't do that anymore???😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Jason funny as hell
If your QB finished the game you should consider that a victory bc they were knocking QBs out... yea Kelce know he don't want the league to bring that type of defense back😂😂
People forget, the broncos defense in those Super Bowl wins was nasty.
I miss real defense, it also had a lot to do with offense accountability. Don't you dare jump in the air and not expect to be SMASHED. Don't run a slant across the middle without expecting someone to put you to sleep. As an offensive player there are plenty of times you shouldn't take the risk, but if you do you know someone is probably going to hit you hard. I understand calling out unnecessary hits but to take away the entire risk that makes football very real is worry some.
Ah so you're hoping more players go the Junior Seau route... Gotcha. 👌
@@joeybebop No, if you had reading comprehension I want more offensive accountability. Don't be dumb
99’ Broncos but I think I’m bias since I’m a TD fan, but both teams spanked the league in their respective year
Travis kelce: “bring back smash mouth football”
Travis kelce’s records: *probably never exist*
Eagles brought back the knock the QB out football lol
Yup! Just ask the 49ers😎
Yeah bring that back until Mahomes gets knocked out lol
That '99 Broncos team was the most complete of the three, but that Ravens team was something else. They would have had the first shut out in Super Bowl history were it not for a kickoff return for a touchdown.
Agreed.. I miss those scary defenses
Bro saying “bring that back.” Bro if they bring that back mahomes ain’t coming back 😭😭😭😭
Man, Patrick leaves the pocket a lot they'd bring back real safties like Sean Taylor or Brain Dawkins taking off people's heads .
@@Peakfreud right lmao kelce wouldn’t be in AFC title games if the old rules got brought back
@@HotspurFC-cu6ny Also Bro Q.B's would play till they're 45yrs old far less frequently.
“Bring that back” yet when mahomes gets sneezed on he’s gonna cry bitch and moan
It’s actually amazing how fast it went from half the game plan being hit the QB and out them in the ER to just kinda lightly hug them after they sign a consent form
Ravens defense was insane 😤
Stop it unc the 2001 broncos almost beat your ravens team with Brian griese and no td the 1998 broncos would have won
Almost is a loss
Travis says "bring back that" not remembering the 2-14 years...
The cheifs were just a bad team then, doesn't have anything to do with how defenses were able to play.
That Ravens defense was THE best defense I've seen in a long time. I was. Ravens fan before that First Super Bowl........I became a life long fan after it too 💯💯💯💯
Thanks Shannon Sharpe once again through one of the best interviews ever! The man speaks the truth.😊
What a comment by Travis. Bring that Football back
This almost made me cry tears of joy being a ravens fan 😂
Tua is out 2-4 weeks after just listening to that
Kerry Collins was a Good QB for the Giants in 2000 . But that 97 and 98 Broncos Team with John Elway at QB would have lit that 2000 Ravens Team up on the Ground or in the air .
From the bottom of my heart, I wish they could bring that back lol
Travis you don’t want that bro bro 😂😂
I'm only 30 years old but I miss defenses like that. I think that's why even though I'm an eagles fan I absolutely love the way the 49ers play defense.
That defense was what made me a football and ravens fan
Gotta love Jason man guys is a gem 💎
Best in the business
That Ravens defense was no joke.
One of those teams and games you don’t forget. I At 46, I still remember that Superbowl NY couldn’t move. The whole game. It was nuts. Legion of Doom in Seattle was pretty dope too.
Imagine Lamar w that ravens team 16-0
Pat is gonna have to have a talk with Trav lol
Back when it was more of a gladiator sport. The good ol days
Shit I’ve seen some games from the past and idk if these dudes would survive that type of beating..unc shay was smart to say which team am I on? 😂😂😂 52 and those other LBs were gonna be hounding him for a while 😮💨😮💨😮💨 but then again he did say in 96 that he caught 9 and went for like 150+ on their defense but that was 4 years before they became legendary 💯
Shannon's memory of plays frm 20 years ago is amazing. I REALLY for got what I ate for lunch this past monday and its weds today! Mind you shannon was recalling def plays........and he was on the Offense!!!!!!!
Travis Kelce: "Bring back that!"
Also Travis Kelce: "Oh wait I'm an offensive player who would NEVER score again."