Why Clark Gable’s Daughter, Judy Lewis Suffered from her Identity?
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Was she supposed to be happy about not being accepted for who she was, of course not.
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I have a question 🤔. Why did you add that the mother's religion in your narrative to excuse her violation of every tenement of said religion. Isn't it a bit rich to say her mom was religious, but she clearly slept with a married man, albeit a terrible one. Then, she lied and concocted a web that led to horrible mental health issues for her " child". For what? To be a movie star? That should have been the key point. Not making excuses for Gable. It's just sad
I remember a televised awards show (Oscar's ?) in the 90's when Gable's son publicly acknowledged Judy, in the audience, as his sister . The audience rose and gave a standing ovation.
I wish I would have seen that
Can you tell us what year...I would love to see that?..Thanks
@@dennismccallister3994 Hello, sorry I don't remember the year, but it was soon after Judy had written here memoir.
@hotpicklesnpeppers I own Judy Lewis' book "Uncommon Knowledge." She recounts meeting her half brother, John Clark Gable, without him realizing they shared a common father - at a 1986 commemorative screening of GWTW. It was only John Clark who was introduced to the audience and received the thunderous applause - not Judy. To my knowledge John Clark Gable never publically acknowledged Judy Lewis as his relative.
@@Arlynn652 Hello', I do remember the televised event I spoke of , it was not around the GWTW TV reissue. It was later AFTER she released her autobiography. Stay well silver screen fan, we all still watch the " stars" ! 🙏🏾 🌠😊
Judy decided to make her ordeal positive by becoming a psycho-therapist, to help others overcome in similar situations that she suffered. She definitely was an over-comer who wanted to move on and help others. What a winner!
Loretta should have told her daughter the truth when she was 15 and the meeting was set up to meet her father.
...at least by the time she was 20. Like I stated above, neither of their careers were at their height. I mean by the 50's it would have been fodder for gossip for a little while but I think as adults they should have paid the price for their daughters sake. Now, That Said, I just had another thought. Loretta and Clark were of the "Mind Set" of the 30's and 40's and most likely weren't psychologically equipped to think past the conditioning from those times. I feel that perspective is worth consideration on their behalf. It's interesting to examine the situation and share thoughts and opinions.Well Wishes to everyone and theirs. 🧡🧡🧡
After reading this very sad story about Judy Lewis, it makes me realize how fortunate I am to have had both of my parents. My Beloved Mother passed away in 2021 and I miss her everyday. I am fortunate to still have my 95 year old Dad and he lives with me!!
There’s nothing like having your parents. I wish I had mine. Your dad is so blessed to be with you. ❤
Judy Lewis worked at St.Anne’s in Los Angeles California as a therapist in a young mother home for teenagers that became pregnant and were in foster care
Seams everyone making comments forgets the moral code of the times. Men often pushed themselves on female co-stars, still happens today. She was 22 yrs old....He was 32 yrs and married. He knew better. Babies happen. Gable wasn't as innocent as he was portrayed.
You don't know the circumstances and do you really think women never push themselves on men? Cut the bullshit woman
That’s so true. Age and times different but yet people judge based on todays society wonder what future people will think of society and people today
@@clivemacken552 they should have clean to Judy, when she was asking, otherwise, they purposely screwed her up, that's all we are saying.
@@lesliefitzgerald2354 I was answering to Kimberly reply
Martied men not using condoms then was so irresponsible.
I bought her book it was a fabulous story!!! It was called "Uncommon Knowledge". I reached out to her after I read her book and asked if she could autograph my copy and that I would pay for it going and coming back...Well...SHE RESPONDED!!!..She said absolutely NOT...she would NOt autograph my book as it was currently out of print and she didnt want ANYTHING TO happen to it so instead...she bought a card and wrote a little note inside of it ..signed it..and mailed to me instructing me to stick that inside my book....
I read the book too, excellent and well written.
She was very kind and thoughtful it means Thank you for sharing
Read it too- so worth the time.
How lovely. Sounds like something her Mother would do. She was Blessed by a Mother who was so dedicated to get and protected her from the detailed of her conception which was not a willing act.
So she was not able to hug her father even once Everybody failed her A deep hole in child's heart which can never be remedied
I 2nd that emotion ♡
This was such a heartbreaking tale... I'd heard about this before and it never gets easier to process yet the fact that two people in the heat of passion conceived such a beautiful child is very tragic for her as well as her parents... I loved and admired both Loretta Young and Clark Gables work yet it is unfortunate how so many lies and deceptions torn this family apart.. no winners here.. everyone of them were truly robbed of what could have and should have been...
unless Loretta treated her like shit, she should have been more understanding of her parents actions, back then it would have been career suicide and with Gable already married would have made things even worst. Another thing, another man took responsibility for raising Lewis so what was Gable suppose to do, mess things up further by acknowledging her. Again unless she had unloving relationship with her mother, she should have moved on. Her parents were wrong getting together the way they did with there being consequences to their actions unfortunately with the child feeling it.
There is other indication that Loretta naively allowed herself to be alone with Gable. Gable forced himself upon her. She kept telling him "no". But, he disregarded it.
In those days, women were taught to "act like a lady" (be quiet and obedient to men). So, putting up a fight to reject Gable's behaviors would have been difficult.
@@kimberlycooper4170 what does that have to do with her daughter and from what I understand Loretta didn't come to that conclusion until years later in the 80s or nineties. Also my daughter was conceived in that way where her father was drunk and forced himself onto me with me still not putting that on my daughter. If u choose to keep the child how it got here is no excuse for mistreatment. Which is another reason Judy should have gotten over it. Her mother chose to be her mother with me again saying that unless Loretta treated her like shit she should have moved on once she found out clark was her father.
@@kimberlycooper4170 another dishonorable man! I’m referring to Gable.
@@tratney I understand that those early months in a child’s life matter. Not be able to get her Mother’s love at the orphanage which contributed to her insecurities. She’s gone now too. Tom Lewis was not a good stepfather.
As the father of a lovely daughter, I can say they all missed out. Their lives could all have been so much better.
Your daughter is blessed to have you. Not all daddies feel like you. I'm glad there are men like you.
Maybe not...
Rape has lasting effects on personal interactions.
Heaven overcomes all pain - earth, not necessarily.
She had to get her ears pinned back as a child, for obvious reasons. How sad.
There was such stigma back then about adulterous affairs and conceived pregnancy. I do believe there was a morality clause actors had to sign. I think it was wonderful that Loretta did adopt her. It was a difficult time and who am I to judge.
Now I'm wondering how many Starlets did he hurt and impregnate. These Men had no shame and the girls and Women no power , or rather those that played into the Game thought they had Power but certainly did not . We've seen the self destructive responses to Sox abuse thru the decades in the Movie Industry and other Arts .Ms Young loved and Protected her daughter at a time when many chose not to go thru the pregnancy . Many gave their babies up fir adoption. Gables was not to be respected.
@@deniseganey6890 It was a consensual affair not rape or forced. He would have lost his career also. It was the 1930's.
But sad he did not ever really acknowledge his own little girl, fine guy, but for heaven’s sake…
@@bjt20f2 it was rape.
The story was that Gable date-r'd Loretta, and that resulted in her being the mother of Gable's child. Another story was that he made it his business to have relations with all his female co-stars, regardless of their consent.
It seems it would have been much different for her, had they acknowledged her. Hoping she is at peace now. Thank you for sharing this.
This is such a sad story. 😢
I am incredibly impressed by Young's behaviour. She could have visited a doctor as so many had to, she could have had Judy fostered or adopted. Instead she created a plan so that she and Judy could be together as mother and daughter. In 1935 this was so very brave. Any hint or slip up would have seen both Young and Lewis cast out penniless and alone. Of course it was torturous for Judy but to have a mum love me like that - wow
Like so many did back then who got back street abortions when they were very young which left them unable to have children in the future. Many had to adopt if they wanted children like Jane Russell who openly confessed this happened to her.
Ms. Young had such a strong Faith and took on her role as Mother fiercely. She only lived to protect Judy. She had absolutely no support, it is She who supported her mother and sisters. She could've given Judy up so easily but Loved her baby so very much. She was young and niave , I fully believe Gable did something terrible and like many in her position of being forced couldn't Tell or their lives would be ruined. I feel that Clark Gable was very wrong. Judy was her Mother's too priority.
You have no soul.
@@topfuel336 Oh my goodness why do you say that Alan?
your impressed?
I remember finding an old Life magazine in the living room of my cousin's house in which time had stood still for many years. In that magazine were articles about young actresses and their mothers and one was Judy Lewis and her mother Loretta Young. I remember reading that she was her adopted daughter and I thought to myself that is incredible that her adopted daughter looks so much like her!!!
I am 50 and my mother brought me up on her own. Recently met a cousin who only knew of my existence in the last few years. My father never told his family. I totally get it. It was shameful in them days. It's only in the last 40 years in the UK that being a single parent is acceptable xx.
You Mom was very Brave . I have so much admiration fur all the mom's back decades ago who focused on thier child and not what Society said. Sounds like you come from solid values. 🌹
I was neighbors with Loretta. She was such a delightful woman and was active in Catholic community support groups.
@@La-wr5dn I guess, per your comment, Loretta should have aborted her or just left her in the orphanage. You are MAJORLY judging them...geez...what a hypocrite you are.
What a hypocrite. Support others in the community but lie to your daughter and damage her emotionally for life. That’s a good catholic
@@Partyinglikeits1999 You are so judgmental and hateful.
I’m sure she was a lovely neighbor but a poor Christian. Liars will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
She was a hypocrite.
It’s obvious from watching Call of the Wild. Sparks fly . 😊Love them both!
;You need to remember the times. I thought that it was awesome that her mom was able to set up with orphanage to keep her till she could adopt her back. Remember at that time if loretta had lost her job and never work again. There was no welfare office or food stamps. No daycare.
Times were very different and unless you were in that situation, you don’t know what you would do.
When I was very young I went to a private school and my best friend was bunker Spreckels.. We went ice skating one day and Clark Gable had leased out the whole facility so that he could sit up in the bleachers and watch us fall down we weren't very good skaters. Blessings from Southern Oregon
Since learning about Judy Lewis's situation I've felt very sympathetic towards her. I was born in 1945 and immediately adopted by wonderful parents. I was questioned off and on throughout my childhood by other children. They asked me why my birth mother gave me away. That didn't hurt me very much but it increased my curiosity. When DNA tests became available I rushed to get the truth. I have a great deal of the information now but my birth mother concealed who she was too well. As a teenager I used to day dream that she was the then well-known actress Rhonda Fleming and my birth father was Clark Gable. A few years ago I learned who my birth father was and though he was a tall handsome man, he was not Clark Gable. He was an electrical engineer who lived an ordinary life in California. I've exhausted the clues about my birth mother and I had to give up searching after dedicating a lot of time over 15 years to trying to find some information. I'm pretty sure she wasn't Rhonda Fleming or Loretta Young! She was a very embarrassed young woman who would have been harshly judged by the world because she became pregnant by a married man who lied to her and said he wanted to marry her and that he was divorced. At least in one small way society has become better. They are more empathetic now towards women in such a sad situation. I hope my mother lived long enough to see the world change and become less harsh in their judgment.
Did you ever get to meet your father since you knew who he was? You weren't able to get any information from him? So sad but it seems like you have dealt with all of it in a positive way.
@@ceceliaknights3919 My birth father died fairly young (57) as did his father and brothers. My own son died at 35. I never met my father even though I now know that when I lived in San Diego he lived there too. I don't mind that I didn't meet him because he had 2 other daughters and it would have hurt them to know their dad was unfaithful to their mother during the war. I've only seen pictures of all of them but that was very helpful to me.
She chose to bring you into the World and give you loving Parents who loved and cared fur you. Something I'm sure broke her young Heart. I'm very touched by your deep empathy towards your birth Mother. Bless You.
@@deniseganey6890 For someone who doe not know both their parents, it feels like a large gap in your life. My parents were only nineteen when I was conceived and not knowing my father really bothered me when I had my daughter at the age of twenty- five. I looked up my grandfather and my Dad. I was fortunate to have known my grandfather until his death 7 yrs later and my Dad until 2021. He died at age 87 and treated me the same as the rest of his children. Finding him made the large unknown gap disappear .
Her Mother made a wise choice for them all.
It wasn't just Judy who went through things her Mother also didn't get to be her Birth Mother either and so much more.
Bravo to Loretta for not going for an abortion. Judy Lewis and family thank you.
Wow! That is a lot for a child to go through and then have it continue into adulthood. I also see why both her parents chose to be selfish and secretive, not excusing them just can see why, but why they didn't tell her later in life is IMHO baffling and cruel. They continued to be selfish and deceptive even though times had changed and honestly, "Oh Poor Them" they would have recovered. The news revelation would have come and gone. In the end though Judy Lewis did okay and in fact had a privileged life on many levels despite the situation which most probably helped her in her career as a psychologist.
I agree with your thoughts.
I think you’re forgetting the stigma would have attached itself to the child, as well, if it were publicly known. As there was no public admission or declaration, everyone politely smiled behind their hand and acknowledged her as Loretta’s adopted daughter which allowed her to live a wonderful life.
@@Lucinda_Jackson I definitely see your point. There's always different ways to see things with pros and cons. IMHO (In My Humble Opinion) though as the daughter got older, say past 25, there would have probably been about 30 minutes of OMG on the news and then it would have faded away. She could have had some albeit limited relationship with her father. That is where I think Loretta Young and Clark Gable were greatly selfish and overly self involved. Neither of them were at the height of their careers and should have "Paid The Piper" as the saying goes for their daughters sake.
My apologies! After seeing your response to mine, I just reread your original comment and realize that I completely missed the “later in life”. I wholeheartedly agree with your original comment! Thank you for being kind and reiterating your thoughts - what a generous way to point out that you’d said when she was older and that my comment about the stigma attaching to the *child* didn’t really apply. Please have a wonderful day!
@@Lucinda_Jackson Oh, no worries. We carry our wounded child with us into adulthood. I'm sure Judy would still have had some issues had it been revealed when she was in her 20's but might have helped fill the void she lived with. But, life happens the way it happens. Can't turn back the clock. Well Wishes for you and yours. 🧡🧡🧡
It's so sad when fame and money are are more important than your own child
Can't deny genetic inheritance.
Judy looked so much like her father!
Oh yes!! Judy resembled her bio father Clark Gable a lot more than her mother Loretta!!
Unacknowledged children, especially daughters, often resemble their father. Speaking from experience.
@@dammar117 True! After all, I resemble my late father a lot. My daughter Tanya resembles her father Dave in some ways and her daughter Isla, 8 also resembles her dad Lincoln in some ways.
@@bettywiendels5714 I've noticed that daughters tend to resemble fathers, and sons, mothers. I especially noticed this in a video about celebrity mothers and daughters at the same age. When I knew what the father looked like, I could tell, invariably, that the daughter looked like him, and not so much the mother.
@@dammar117 often? What's the exact % on that? How do you know this, just from your own family, anecdotally?
Call of the Wild was filmed at Mount Baker WA in my area. Urban legend has it that Lewis was conceived at a hotel Restaurant called Grahams in a town called 'Glacier' where Gable and Young stayed while filming. 'Grahams is still there. Good video.
I feel that if they had acknowledged her that things would have been much worse than what they were, not better.
Myrna Larson - They should have thought about the possible consequences before, not after Young got pregnant.
At least her mother kept her, and she made something of herself by studying
Yes Judy Lewis And Loretta Young's Lives would have been much Happier had they sat talked renewed mother to daughter and daughter to mother friendships fears and understandings... Had Clark Gable allowed himself as a father to acknowledge his paternity in person to Judy when she was 15 it may have not only eased her past fears but also her future concerns being able to hold her head and her heart to a higher degree of proud to Be.. ❤
Her Mother was raped by Gable. She never pursued a relationship with him if any kind other than what was needed in promoting the film. Ms. Young loved and did everything she could protect her child .
It's always hard to second guess someone else's choices. In the 30's, there was only one choice and Loretta Young made it. However, when mores changed in the 60's, it would have been fairly realistic to assume that, rather than ruining her career, it might have increased her fan base. Mom loved her and might have been disapointed had she learned about it. However, she would have continued to love Young and her work. I was in high school in the 60's and would probably not have thought about it twice. However, I would likely have wanted to see some of Judy Lewis' work -- as I probably will now!
Jack London (1876-1916), the author of "The Call of the Wild" (the novel that movie was based on), was also kept ignorant about his probable biological father, William Chaney, until he was an adult. When London wrote to Chaney, he flatly refused to admit paternity, claiming to have been impotent at the time!
As a young person I used to watch "The Loretta Young Show" she was beautiful. Then I read about the rumor and that was sad. I cannot speak for Gable and Young, they thought what they were doing was correct. She came from a very Catholic Family so abortion was not an option, what a hypocrite, the web of lies was ok then? What Loretta young did to Judy Lewis was and is unpardonable, I disliked both since then. And to deny, deny her the truth, that everyone knew is beyond my me. No one should do that to their children. I admire more Judy who went on to be a Psychotherapist and help others with misfortunes as hers. Rest in Eternal Peace beautiful Judy Lewis you were somebody, and you are a shinning star 🌟
Just Imagine, not knowing this your whole Life. Then being denied by your Another😓
Poor Judy. Loretta should've given her up to be adopted. She could've accepted her new identity and had parents who wanted and loved her. Instead, they abandoned her. Adults are a product of their childhood. Such a shame.
Your videos are fantastic. Very entertaining and informative. Absolutely brilliant.
I heard Young learned about date rape many years after this “affair” and said that was what precipitated the conception of her daughter.
While madly good looking, and perhaps, charming, Gable was certainly no gentleman in his youth.
Of course this happened back then. Some men, and some women, are unscrupulous.
I don't care if my child was illegitimate, I would never stick her in an orphanage or deny her birthright. But by becoming a youth counselor, Judy turned bad into good. Yea for her.
I was a single, young mother who raised Tanya and then my ex boyfriend Ian helped raise her since she was 5. Tanya finally met her biological father Dave when she was 14 and 1 1/2 years later, she gained a half brother Mason who was Dave and his ex partner Pam’s son. Tanya is now 43, a dentist, well travelled and happily married to Lincoln. They raise my grandkids Isla, 8 and Finn, 6 in Cremorne Point, NSW, Australia. My partner Paul and I look fwd to their Jan 19-24, 2023 visit here in London, Ontario, Canada.
Things we're just
really different back then. At least she raised her instead of giving her up for adoption. Still , it must've been difficult for both mother & daughter..
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Back in that day, no one had that kind of freedom. If they assumed that kind of freedom for themselves, then their life went to trash, they were ostracized, couldn't live in safe neighborhoods, couldn't earn a decent paycheck, and were relentlessly and officially being identified as bad people, even the children had to carry that "shame" their entire lives. It was brutal, and had concrete consequences in the lives of the mother and child. Wisely, Loretta avoided all that pain in her and her daughter's lives.
@@roundtwo3321 I agre that it must have been very very hard to have a child out of wedlock but I must disagree about Loretta avoiding pain because her daughter suffered not knowing who her father was and didn't learn the truth until her 30s. Also, by keeping that secret Loretta suffered too.
@@VintageVera Loretta avoided that pain I listed. Hindsight is 20/20 for a reason.
Your channel is delightful! TY
Very disturbing story so sad for a beautiful child .
What a life long heartache for the daughter
I 2nd that emotion
The first part is sad enough - but both made choices and stuck to them. Something common for many many people at the time. And for many years this continued like many people let their secrets remain secrets. Sadly at no point would letting this secret out be beneficial to anyone. Judy was a lovely person with a lovely family and made both parents proud I’m sure. According to her book she kind of knew before Gable had passed that he was her father. I think Gable would have liked to have more to do with Judy- but sadly because of such secrecy that could not happen.
I totally agree..
What secret! Everyone in that world knew who her father was except her until a few years before Gable’s death. According to Judy’s book, step father Tom Lewis was not nice to her.
I didn't like the story, it broke my heart. I can't believe her parents' terrible, selfish behaviour . I understand their careers were in danger, but a child comes first. Why they conceibed it ? Great video, as usual. Thank you, Age of Vintage ! 💖
I have heard that Judy Lewis, mother Loretta Young was a victim of date rape by Clark Gable. Back than people didn't acknowledge date rape or know ut existed.
But Loretta Young would not abort her child.
@@freddyfurrah3789- I never said anything about abortion. I meant to say they should have done something to avoid pregnancy. 🌷
The stars were practically owned by their studios back then as they were under contract and were valuable property. The studios had people on the payroll to cover for them. It likely wasn't up to Gable and Young at all.
I’ve got a better solution , Miss Hot Pants should have kept her britches on . We all know how babies get here. She knew about the studio contract. Take precautions. Instead , she rolled the dice and lost she got pregnant. She didn’t care about anything but herself and her career. She should’ve thought of all that . Instead , she threw her child under the bus.
Thanks for posting this video. 🙂 (Chase)
After having read Judy Lewis' book , they had their mother and daughter fights about this issue among others but above all Ms Young loved Ms Lewis and Judy Lewis loved Ms Young ! Like a lot of mother/daughter relationships .
Those not born in that Era usually can't conceive to the shame of it all especially for the child. Born in 1953 I recall how difficult it was until the mid 70's. Loretta could have easily had an abortion like so many other actresses had back then but she was a good and faithful woman. It's important to note that Loretta lived a highly principled and faithful life and was admired by all in the industry for the rest of her life including during her long run TV series. Apparently she still carried some guilt and shame for having had the physical affair as a young woman. I am actually surprised that given her daughter's mature age she didn't feel a nature compassion for her own mother. Such a shame.
Weirdly enough,I am acquainted with Loretta Young's daughter in law via a mutual friend. We wish each other happy birthday every year and at times have talked via messaging. Her perspective on this is very interesting. She was very close to both Loretta and to Judy. One interesting inside post was that Loretta had a hall closet where she kept all her awards. Not on display all over the house. As far as Judy, it was a fling or dalliance and may not have been quite a love story at all. It even seems more likely to have been much more convoluted than that. Regardless,reputations and careers were on the line,and certainly there were regrets. I personally doubt this was really a love affair. It is what it is.
It was not a love affair.
Didn’t she admit it was date rape later?
@@abigailwrigley6462 Yes.
Sadly those coersions were so rampant in Holywood to the point where it was a sport with these Male lead Actors and Studio Executives. Just Horrific behaviors. Ms. Young could've easily given Judy up fir adoption but held on ti her Faith and stood firm on her live and duty in protecting her child . Remarkable Woman
It would have been interesting if Gable had acknowledged her
He had an obsession with his wife who died during world War II (Carole Lombard) I think a child would have helped him by nurturing the child
I LOVED THE SECRET STORM. As a young girl, I watched it every afternoon.😊
Oh, so sad. If they truly loved each other (Gable and Young) they would have made a beautiful daughter yet his soulmate, Carole Lombard, died tragically hearing stories of his affair with Lana Turner. He missed out on so much.
Show business is an awful business and it has been for 2000 years!!
I didn't learn who my biological parents were until I was 21 even though I was raised around my biological mother all my life. Everybody in town knew who my biological parents were and that I was adopted by my aunt but nobody would let on the secret.
How did you take the news when you found out the truth?
In the 1939 Bette Davis movie "The Old Maid" a similar event occurs: an unwed Bette travels West to have her baby, then opens an orphanage to be with her child there (who doesn't know this is her real mother.). The two relocate with the girl always believing that Bette is her spinster aunt. Seems this is what women did long ago & that Loretta was not the first to devise such a remedy for an out-of-wedlock child.
this must have been a very odd experience for her. Hollywood is a small community and she was the living breathing image of him down to expressions, laugh even the ears that stuck out I would assume it was likely disquieting for people seeing her who knew him well. I don't think he was happy with the arrangement of her being kept in the dark. Young should have taken a page from ingrid bergman letting it be publicly known. I know she felt she could not marry him but she had endless options with other men unhampered by divorce and she could have told the studio heads to lump it. Young was so ridiculous she was enraged when asked by the adult judy about gable creating a breach in their relationship Just awful Unfair to everyone except Ms. Young and her almighty career.
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Judy Lewis wrote her autobiography.
Very enlightening about how she was really treated by her mother, Loretta Young .
I watched Judi Lewis in the Secret Storm when I was a kid.
Yes, things would have been different…she would have not grown up in a wealthy family because Loretta Young was right about what would have happened. I think it is too bad people don’t think about the possible consequences of illicit sex BEFORE they do it…millions of unborn babies would probably still be alive.
You can see Young in Lewis..She should have been told early on and the reason to keep it quiet until she was grown if necessary.Keeping it quiet when she was a child protected Lewis in those times ...but by the time she was an adult..not so.
The story was that Gable date-r'd her mother, and that resulted in her mother being the mother of Gable's child. Another story was that he made it his business to have relations with all his female co-stars, regardless of their consent. Could you do a video on that?
Loretta did what she had to do to protect her daughter in those extremely judgmental times, and to be able to remain the main and/or sole bread-winner in her daughter's life. It wasn't an ego move, as described early on in your video.
The only thing I would have done differently would be to tell her the truth when she reached twelve, her mother clearly loved her and came up with this brilliant plan, big up to her mother, 'big up'' is Black British/Jamaican for respect. Uk
Judy Lewis looks just like her father.
She should have been told long before she was thirty, and Gable should have seen her throughout her life. I can understand being discreet early on, but later they could have told the girl.
What a sad story . It was a sign of the times and all the ridiculous values that have caused suffering for so many people .
Those eyes and smile!
Sad they put their careers before their daughter. RIP Judy Lewis!
Her cancer being lymphoma means she has diffuse undealtwith emotional pain , and unforgiveness .
She tried to help others who had suffered similarly which is quite admirable.
It seems she must of made it to 80,,, so really,,, she did well.
Nowadays,, Clark could have been involved. Tho Clark was bedding everybody,,, so really he was a mess. Loretta was easy pickings for Clark.
Anyway,, I hope they are resting in peace.
Sorry, they don't deserve to rest in
Peace.
I believe she only made it to 76 which I guess is still considered a long life, about 11 years less than her Mom, Loretta who died at 87.
She looks like her dad
A lot more than her mom Loretta Young for sure.
I believe it's shameful that parents are not trueful with their offspring. As far as Judy is concern...be proud that your mother and Clark got together. Be happy girl !
Except she has been dead 11 years but it seems she did make peace with it.
Back then, vecoming pregnant by a married man was shameful. She was loved and provided for by her Mother. Nowadays ANYTHING seems to grow. Teen pregnancy, casual abortions, biracial children , abandonment. By fathers , drug dependent new borns. Isn't it better that families try to love and accept children today, knowing they may be able to work and support children?? Not all, but it's got some good parts.
I liked Gable and Loretta, too. But...they were self absorbed. Neither was a parent of merit...not s Mom....not a Dad...very sad for Judy.
Random pictures are not good, pics should follow the timeline of your narration.
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I have a very dear friend who is a psychologist got her PHD and worked in Southern California in LA. She said some of the most shattered kids had very famous parents. She was glad to move and work with kind of regular kids.
Daughter is beautiful and Clark Gable was a cad!
An unexpected pregnancy can fill a woman with shame, anxiety and fear. So many factors are involved. Though I always felt that Miss Young should not have denied her daughter's birth circumstances - that's just my OPINION...life was different then. And who are we to say what was right or wrong for other people?
I always hated how society seem to blame the woman as if she wasn’t a “good” girl. Meanwhile the man lives like nothing happened and society accepts him. He gets away scot free.
Judy Lewis looks like both of them. She was beautiful.
How terrible that she could not say I’m here and born to too very famous people imagine what it was like for other children born out of wedlock.
Oh please, the 30’s were an entirely different ball game. Her daughter had a good life. Loretta obviously wanted and loved her or she would have left her at the orphanage. And who knows how much input and support Gable gave over the years. The parents did what they had to do. Look at what’s happening today, children are being brainwashed and babysat by electronics and indoctrinated into believing they are not the gender they were born into. Now thats tragic!
Trans people have literally always existed no matter how hard you stomp and scream. Super weird that you’d use this video to play pretend.
You sound dusty af
This was another surprise to me. Now a days stars seem to like the fact that they have children out of marriage. They don't think it's necessary.
Back then women were shunned for having a child out of wedlock! I know girl's even in the late 70's who were not allowed to finish school or were given thier diploma in an office as they were not allowed to walk the stage to receive what they had earned!
Well give thanks she had you and kept you
It happened, it happened.
"Call of the Wild" was a 'gem' of a movie (my father's favorite film in 1935)! The chemistry between Gable
& Young was undeniable, as Young was mature for only 22, ( already being married at 17, to Grant Withers)!
It's hard to imagine that the public would accept that an unmarried, 23 year old Young, would want to 'tie'
herself down with a 'toddler', as she strove 'super-stardom' in Hollywood! I'm sure it was major gossip, then!
It is harder to accept that a then mostly Christian, maternity revering, family values America would approve of a formerly married (hence, nonvirginal) young woman who thereafter bore a child out of wedlock, abandoning such child out of vanity to maintain a false public image. Gable, despite his first (and later) marriages, was a notorious serial womanizer who, despite Hollywood contract "morality" clauses, had no chastity virtue to allege, keep nor defend. Yet Loretta to her dying day whitewashed her public image with a holier-than-thou religiosity, donating heavily to her local Catholic church as to deflect moral criticism of her, and to buy salvation, at least of her Hollywood career.
@@JudgeJulieLit You are correct about Gable! Actually, he inadvertently contributed to the death of his wife, Carole Lombard, who wanted to get back to Hollywood fast since rumors were flying that he was having an affair with Lana Turner with whom he was making a picture.
@@lethaluks2942 His guilt from that may have big prompted him (like Rhett Butler in the US Civil War, hearing the South was losing) to enlist for military service in WW2.
Being reckless by getting married so young doesn't make you mature. Your "tie down" theory doesn't take into consideration that having a before-birth removal would have been a lot easier, faster, less embarrassing, and a lot less time-consuming option.
I was born out of wedlock. My mom kept that secret until I read a letter from my dad that he sent mom. In it it said that he was glad I was what caused them to get married. My mom being German, getting pregnant by an Army guy would’ve caused grief on my grandfather’s business. My father was also married. He left Germany to get a divorce. Anyway, after reading that I burned the letter because I was a bastard child. I am glad that in the end of my moms life she knew I didn’t feel bad about it and that my dad came back and married my mom.
There are no bastard children but, bastard parents, beside you weren't, one since your parents were married.
That is so sad when children are called that! Like they had anything to do with it!
@@lethaluks2942 Sad and backwards.
Ilane, I am very happy that your dad came back and married your mother. What a sweet story.
Once your dad married your mom, you became a "legitimate" child and ceased being a "bast*rd."
Why Gladwin PA? What led her there?
Most of you don’t even remember the scandal of Ingrid Bergman or Dick & Liz on the set of Cleopatra. Quit being so judgmental.
Does anyone know if its true that Clark Gable was a logger in a small Oregon coast town?
This is an interesting viewpoint. While I do believe that Young had an initial crush on Gable, however, I do not believe their relationship was a romantic one. Young claimed she was forced to have sex by Gable when she told him she didn't want to. She was a virgin and didn't know what to do. Her family and friends told her she would lose her job if she told the police. Any extension of that initial date rape was probably happening during that shocky period. Before her death, Young finally admitted that she had been raped after she learned what date rape was, which was a concept she had no early understanding of. She wanted no part of Gable but had no support system at work or at home, and it's actually a sad tale.
Before you make assumptions you need to do a little research. Loretta Young was married in 1930, for one year. Before meeting Gable she made a film with Spencer Tracy and had an openly passionate affair with him.
So whatever happened between her and Gable, Loretta Young was not a stupid innocent girl in terms of sex. She was obviously very experienced at the age of 22. And both Tracy and Gable were married men when all this occurred.
@@kaylangston9377 I'm going by Loretta's words rather than the subjective research completed by others. She allocuted to an attorney and to two witnesses before she died so that was her first-hand story. However, I will give you one point. She did NOT say she was a virgin...she said she was inexperienced. I should not have made that particular assumption.
As to the men being married...what does that have to do with assault? Married men can even assault their own wives.
@@dcmc7383 I'm not talking about what happened. I wasn't there. I'm simply talking about her personal history prior to that event that is documented in public record and primary resources recorded in the 1930s.
@@dcmc7383 You didn't read what I said. I'm simply stating facts. I'm not making any comments about what did or did not happen between them. The fact that you have is her side of it. And I'm not judging her, but you only have one side of the story.
I've always admired her, and I would prefer to believe her side of the story too.
So sad 😢
She’s a dead ringer to him.
Imagine if she had been born male?
No one could deny the father then.
Yes, for sure!!
This very sad story has made me very grateful that my biological father actually made the decision to be my father and stayed with my mother until he died in 2007 after a seven year battle with Parkinson's Disease.
Hmmmm. I'm sorry Lewis missed out on having a dad but she had a wonderful, loving mother and I'm sure, a very lovely life. I don't see how her mom is the bad guy here- she went thru a lot to have her (there were "options" then, too) and to raise her. Interesting story though!
I can't believe how everyone in Hollywood, including her friends kept that a secret from her, tight lipped community. She grows up to look just like Clark Gable, I love this story ❤
Poor kid, her parents should have been publicly proud of her.
Luved the Loretta Young Show showing fairytales.
Holy Infinite Love
Yes
"If you do not have a dark secret it is never too late to get one."
Sad story