Passing - Ruth Negga & Rebecca Hall on their personal connection to the story & relatable themes

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
  • Ruth Negga & Rebecca Hall are interviewed by Stefan Pape for Passing, Rebecca Hall's directorial debut for Netflix. Adapted from the novella by Nella Larsen, the film stars Ruth Negga, Tessa Thompson, Andre Holland, Bill Camp, Gbenga Akinnagbe, Antoinette Crowe-Legacy, Alexander Skarsgard and Ashley Ware Jenkins.
    Plot: "Passing" follows the unexpected reunion of two high school friends, whose renewed acquaintance ignites a mutual obsession that threatens both of their carefully constructed realities.
    Passing will be released on Netflix on the 10th of November, 2021.
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Комментарии • 287

  • @mac609
    @mac609 2 года назад +117

    Rebecca Hall is right. At some point in our lives, we try to pass for something. The thing is when you get older and gain experience and figure out who you are, passing to be accepted becomes less important.

  • @cdsunflower1442
    @cdsunflower1442 2 года назад +360

    Ruth is giving me “Sade vibes”.

    • @peppermintpattie6006
      @peppermintpattie6006 2 года назад +13

      Yes!!! She sure does! Diamond Life

    • @anthonyclarke2253
      @anthonyclarke2253 2 года назад +1

      Not to be rude but are sure it isn't her broad forehead?

    • @GantzGeo
      @GantzGeo 2 года назад +4

      Biopic coming soon.

    • @nancymosby7369
      @nancymosby7369 2 года назад

      Get out of my head!!!! My thoughts exactly 😉

    • @NYD666
      @NYD666 2 года назад

      @@anthonyclarke2253 yes, cuz sadness mostly comes from they eyes

  • @jooooaaaannnn_
    @jooooaaaannnn_ 2 года назад +79

    From a good distance away, Ruth looks like FKA Twigs like they could be sisters

  • @theorderofthebees7308
    @theorderofthebees7308 2 года назад +29

    Nella Larsen Book is a masterpiece , the themes of passing for straight , race , inter weaving that into everything ! So wonderfully written the erotic tones throughout the book was a shock and daring for me - it was written in 1929

  • @Littlething41
    @Littlething41 2 года назад +49

    "Belonging" should be the title of Rebecca's next film using the same exact cast. I love that Ruth is Ethiopian and Irish with a beautiful Irish accent because that reality and dynamic of who is really "Irish" in Ireland is a trip!

    • @KristiContemplates
      @KristiContemplates 2 года назад +3

      Scotland History Tours is a RUclips channel where Bruce Fummey presents the concept of "who gets to be Scottish?". Bruce the Bard presents some amazing philosophical concepts

    • @keithcomyn4823
      @keithcomyn4823 2 года назад +1

      Just saw film on netflix very good film well acted

  • @edwardpinnix249
    @edwardpinnix249 2 года назад +57

    Ruth Negga is beauty & brains!

  • @Belfastboi
    @Belfastboi 2 года назад +74

    Rebecca’s hair is glorious. Two incredible women and I’m always interested to see what they are both up to. Creative and stunning 🤩

  • @CindymeCindy
    @CindymeCindy 2 года назад +22

    This movie was so delicious! There's hardly ever any 1920's films except for odd shoot-em ups like Bonnie and Clyde type shows. To see actual living in a 1920's time period was so fun! Also, the black and white filming and all the juxtapositions of black and white made it all the more enjoyable. I loved the winter New York street that had black trees on one side and white trees on the other.

    • @wrendor9465
      @wrendor9465 2 года назад +4

      Well said! We need more 20's to 50's era films in black in white time now. I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. I loved old movies and to have a movie such as passing right now is very much needed right now. Keep it coming please!

    • @CindymeCindy
      @CindymeCindy 2 года назад +1

      @@wrendor9465 Yes! 1950’s too!

  • @Blackdove0421
    @Blackdove0421 2 года назад +45

    If you passing your not free to be yourself.

    • @Littlething41
      @Littlething41 2 года назад +8

      Yes so true! I feel like in the film neither women were free and that was the uncomfortable conflict. Tessa was safe and comfortable in Harlem but no where else. Ruth wasn't really safe at all! Really amazing!

    • @NYD666
      @NYD666 2 года назад +3

      But you are free to have moments of humanity. It's nice to take a break and get treated like a human

    • @jeanettesdaughter
      @jeanettesdaughter 2 года назад

      What self⁉️ That’s the entire point. In a racist society or just a homogenous society what is the self if you are other than the majority? Try this: ask Black men why they prefer white or lighter skinned women, why they want light skinned children. Then you will really be digging into the tragic legacy of white supremacy.

    • @superamanda
      @superamanda 2 года назад +2

      But...You don’t know why people made or make choices. That’s frankly no one’s business but the individual. “Passing” has been grossly fetishized and misunderstood. Multi racial people can be whatever they want to be. Rebecca’s “Black” grandparent wasn’t even a third Black genetically. He had every right to identify with the majority of his ancestry which was European. He gained nothing from adopting a native identity as so many whites AND black folks have. Looking like all one race has its privileges and power as well. Those who do are never questioned or challenged for their ancestry.

  • @veronicawelsh5313
    @veronicawelsh5313 2 года назад +32

    A staggeringly beautiful film in all ways. Best film for a while.

  • @nicolebrown1927
    @nicolebrown1927 2 года назад +38

    I could always tell that Rebecca Hall had black in her. It makes me love her more because she's not ashamed to talk about it. I sense a pride in her that she has some of our blood running through her veins.💙☺

    • @ssissigui8846
      @ssissigui8846 2 года назад +25

      Really? I couldn't tell. She looks white to me

    • @ssissigui8846
      @ssissigui8846 2 года назад +17

      @stryfetc1 yeah ..like many white people I know... I mean...she is clearly white looking. Her mom, on the other hand, has "black" features . Rebecca is very beautiful white woman with some African American ancestry.

    • @ssissigui8846
      @ssissigui8846 2 года назад +14

      @stryfetc1 i live in Europe and have seen people like that .It's not because someone has full lips that he his black. Angelina Jolie for ex. There are also African with thin lips.
      That woman just looks white to me and to the majority of the world. But I guess we can agree to disagree,🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @ssissigui8846
      @ssissigui8846 2 года назад +18

      @stryfetc1I don't think so and it is just my opinion as Black woman who is not African American. This lady cannot be "passing" because she is not black in the first place . It's not her culture nor her appearance,nor her experience. She is not like Fredi Washington who played the role of Sarah Jane in the movie Imitation of life. A white looking African American raised by two light skinned black parents in the black environment who chose not to pass as white.
      The majority of African American have European blood in them (for crual reasons), doest it make them white automatically? I don't think so. Why is it only one way ?
      To be honnest, the concept of race in the USA is pretty intriguing for people outside of America. The one drop rule still has impacts in the perception of race.
      Anyway, it is always great to "talk" with respectful people on RUclips. Thank you very much.

    • @ssissigui8846
      @ssissigui8846 2 года назад

      @stryfetc1 I'm way too serious sometimes 🤦🏾‍♀️😝🤣🤣🤣

  • @wrendor9465
    @wrendor9465 2 года назад +10

    This movie is everything in every way for so many reasons!!!

  • @CindymeCindy
    @CindymeCindy 2 года назад +11

    Two stunning women! So much talent!

  • @ilovenycinspirational6436
    @ilovenycinspirational6436 2 года назад +17

    I’m obsessed with Ruth. Love her

  • @christophergregory1
    @christophergregory1 2 года назад +12

    Most black people who were that light back then married very dark men. While there was many who passed often than not that they did.
    I also believe those black people Clare was around while w/ Irene & Brian knew she was black & passing. Like Irene’s character said, it’s something another black person can just feel or see.
    It’s a shame that neither races wanted to accept bi-racial people as their genuine selves. It’s still very much prevalent in the 21st century!

    • @JC-unome
      @JC-unome 2 года назад +1

      Why did so many light skin women marry dark-skin men back then? I know the reason why dark skin men "prefer" light skin women but what was the reason so many light skin women gravitated towards dark skin men and not men closer to their skin tone.

    • @christophergregory1
      @christophergregory1 2 года назад

      @@JC-unome U know that old saying opposites attract.

    • @kgomotsomosiatlhaga8311
      @kgomotsomosiatlhaga8311 2 года назад +2

      @@JC-unome like they said in the movie. Its rooted in exotisicm. Finding extremely different feautures attractive.

    • @victoriarichardson-zl5zn
      @victoriarichardson-zl5zn Год назад

      Umm.. Maybe because it was acceptance and they could relate to one another life experience as human beings of color

    • @ambo9569
      @ambo9569 4 дня назад

      As a biracial woman I felt obligated to marry a darker black man, I felt like I had to make up for my perceived lack of blackness, a sense of “loyalty” and a fear that my children would not be able to claim their black roots if I dated out. Now that I’m very comfortable with my biracial identity, I’m more interested in dating other biracial people. I don’t feel like I need to choose black or white when I’m clearly “in the middle” and I have given myself permission to celebrate that. Sure opposites attract but a lot of us feel the subconscious need to be loyal, even to our own detriment at times

  • @vivimo9845
    @vivimo9845 2 года назад +28

    Even though Ruth doesn’t look “white”… passing during those times had much more to do with having very very light skin rather than ethnic features (nose, and lips).

    • @MamaKatt
      @MamaKatt 2 года назад +13

      No it did not. It was literally about having the features and the high skin tone and the straight hair. Nothing could be left out or you could find yourself swinging from a tree.

    • @TyraStanks
      @TyraStanks 2 года назад +7

      I had an African American History professor who said this same thing. Passing was more so about skin tone.

    • @anndeecosita3586
      @anndeecosita3586 2 года назад

      I don’t entirely agree because CSA Pres.,Jefferson Davis was accused of having a black wife simply because her skin was darker and he said no it’s because she’s Welsh. Same thing with Johnny Cash’s first wife but she said it was for being Italian. Some of my older family have the complexion typical of Anglo Saxon white people but their hair is tightly curled. Most people assume they are biracial not white unless it’s from afar. In South Africa there is a thing called the pencil test in regards to hair texture.

    • @nancymosby7369
      @nancymosby7369 2 года назад +4

      Ppl that were passing in those days had nothing to gain by claiming their blackness but benefited from “being white” $$$

    • @vivimo9845
      @vivimo9845 2 года назад +1

      @@MamaKatt not true but you can believe what you want.

  • @ninasamone87
    @ninasamone87 2 года назад +8

    Heyyyy youuu guyyysss! That’s from the “Electric Company.” Rita Moreno use to say it. 😁

  • @superamanda
    @superamanda 2 года назад +6

    Irene was supposed to look like Halsey or Rashida Jones...COMPLETELY white passing. Her friend was supposed to be like Doja Cat or Kat Graham. The film lost the original intention of Nella Larsen’s book who herself was almost all Danish.

    • @privateprivate5302
      @privateprivate5302 2 года назад +1

      Interesting
      Not familiar with the source material but Rashida Jones and Kat Graham are my HEARTs 🥰 and i betcha they would have done BEAUTIFUL jobs in these roles

  • @jc6594
    @jc6594 2 года назад +5

    I loved Ruth in Breakfast On Pluto

  • @emileconstance5851
    @emileconstance5851 2 года назад +44

    I thought the film started out very promising--loved the stylized, B&W look, the music, the acting, but I thought the story was a little thin. Wish it had gone a bit deeper. Anyway, I think it was her directorial debut, so I expect she'll likely develop as a filmmaker--this film showed great promise; also, it may be that the novella was not ideal for a feature-length film, and that's why it felt a bit underdeveloped to me.

    • @nancymosby7369
      @nancymosby7369 2 года назад +4

      I got the point!

    • @sophiewright5927
      @sophiewright5927 2 года назад +3

      Totally agree with you!

    • @anner.4944
      @anner.4944 2 года назад +4

      I think this is what I thought as well, I was wanting more. But enjoyed

    • @missprissyrainbow
      @missprissyrainbow 2 года назад +2

      It was true to the Novel, its more about touching on what wasn't talked about. It was totaly not what I was expecting, I felt that every character was passing in someway or another whether it was race, sexuality, society norms, etc.

    • @superamanda
      @superamanda 2 года назад

      It should have been a Black or multi racial director/screenwriter . Not a white woman who’s ALWAYS talked about having a white multi racial mother and now wants to change things up. She’s NEVER lived with racism or in the states.

  • @QUEEN-fe3lu
    @QUEEN-fe3lu 2 года назад +1

    It’s not complex you’re black period, one drop of black blood you’re black , black people come in ALL BEAUTIFUL VARIATIONS ✊🏼✊🏽✊🏿✊🏾🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @lisabullock7461
    @lisabullock7461 2 года назад +9

    Really enjoyed the movie. My favorite movie is Imitation of life, I was looking forward to seeing this.

  • @ninasamone87
    @ninasamone87 2 года назад +6

    Definitely need to check out this film.

  • @alefunzouzzle4049
    @alefunzouzzle4049 2 года назад +8

    Great job ladies. This movie was so well done very beautiful and tastefull. I really enjoyed how it challenged me to think. I wish Mrs. Hall would make a movie about Babe Ruth it has been speculated for years that he was passing in order to play in a segregated sport. He was called n..lips as a child and other players would call him the n word. Would be interesting to this masterfully.

  • @QUEEN-fe3lu
    @QUEEN-fe3lu 2 года назад +2

    No we don’t all want to try…. I am a fair Skinned and Proud African American Nubian SISTAH✊🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙏🏽

  • @LeeBeeDeeTree51
    @LeeBeeDeeTree51 2 года назад +32

    I know that both Tessa and Ruth are biracial. I know that in real life there is no one way that black/white biracial people should or do look. But for purposes of the movie, I think that perhaps they should have hired an actress who looks unambiguously white. The whole story rests on a person who is legally classified as black, being able to "pass" for white, no questions asked. If Ruth Negga was seen walking down the street, most people would assume that she was mixed race or a light skinned black woman. I don't think most people would think she was a white woman, even if she was wearing a blond wig.
    Same is true of Tessa Thompson. In fact, I'm sure that most African Americans have relatives or know of someone who identifies as black who could much more easily "pass" as white, than either of these women.
    This is ONE instance where actual racial identification doesn't serve the story. This is NOT an attack on the talent of either actress. It's just that I think Rebecca Hall herself might have been the more logical choice for the role.

    • @Salonecutie1000
      @Salonecutie1000 2 года назад +28

      But that’s you missing the point of the entire movie . Most white can’t tell the difference between someone like Ruth and a Sicilian woman . We are suppose to know it’s obvious that they are passing .

    • @reedlara
      @reedlara 2 года назад +1

      Very well said👏👏👏

    • @user-dv3kq3rm4h
      @user-dv3kq3rm4h 2 года назад +12

      No lilly, you miss the point. This has already been done countless times, using white-looking actresses for these roles historically in film. This added a fresh perspective and the ambiguity of the biracial actresses added to the audience's potential anxiety of being found out throughout the film. The black and white effect also added another layer of ambiguity as it obscured the brown shade of their skin. Perhaps the artistic nature of the film went over your head.
      Also it is very clear that Rebecca wanted to give this role to visibly mixed race actresses and they did a fantastic job.
      There are numerous ethnicities who were classified as white during these times who would have had tan skin such as darker skinned Italians, Greeks, middle-eastern people etc. This was not set in a time where people have the insight that we do today to identify people in the way that we do now.

    • @wintersantiago2274
      @wintersantiago2274 2 года назад +1

      Can Rebecca act? Regardless, the concept of Passing, went over your head.

    • @greenytaddict
      @greenytaddict 2 года назад +5

      Maybe more of a megan markle or mariah carey type might have been more convincing. But from the thumbnail it looked like two white women or a Latina and white woman.🤷‍♀️

  • @beckygoody9829
    @beckygoody9829 2 года назад +25

    This movie felt incomplete.
    I kept waiting for the high point that never came.

    • @DLFfitness1
      @DLFfitness1 2 года назад +2

      I know what you mean. It was very empty.

    • @anndeecosita3586
      @anndeecosita3586 2 года назад

      Not all stories wrap up in a nice bow. I don’t mind a bit of ambiguity in movie endings because real life is more like that.

  • @ajeshbenny5955
    @ajeshbenny5955 2 года назад +14

    Ruth 🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @vmonica81
    @vmonica81 Год назад +1

    Love this video 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @DarthFurie
    @DarthFurie 2 года назад +19

    I feel like a lot of the plot points in this movie already got spoiled for me, but I'm still interested to see it, as a white-passing person myself. In today's world it takes a lot of struggle for me to "feel" in touch with my black heritage when it's not tangible because of how I look. I halfway understand the allure of just wanting to let go and assimilate with the white majority of society. It's hard to explain to people who haven't had the same experience of passing. But there is an ease of slipping into it, socially, despite the emotional turmoil it causes within. It's a shame that the people being interviewed don't really seem to understand that

    • @christophergregory1
      @christophergregory1 2 года назад +2

      I get what ur saying. I feel like it’s the biggest reason why many bi-racial or really light people go so hard for their black side. It’s bcuz they’ve been more accepted by us Black people than caucasians.
      What’s funny is that caucasians had really dark skin before. There’s a Docu that aired on Showtime or Starz about the 1st caucasian in America was a black man. U can also see it on RUclips. Just type in The first Caucasian was a black man.

    • @rf3575
      @rf3575 2 года назад +4

      I have a question... I understand the adherence to the "one drop rule" during segregation and even some today.
      But why do you feel "white-passing" vs white?
      From a modern perspective, is someone with a biracial grandparent and all other white/non-black relatives... why is that person not white?
      Can white people not BE white and have black/non-white ancestry, just like on average black people (with black parents and grandparents) have white ancestry yet are not white.

    • @christophergregory1
      @christophergregory1 2 года назад +1

      @@rf3575 Race is just about a person’s skin color & nothing else. That’s how it’s defined.
      You should watch this documentary on RUclips or Showtime called The first Caucasian in America was a black man.

    • @rf3575
      @rf3575 2 года назад +2

      @@christophergregory1 .... thanks for the recommendation.
      I agree, the concept of race is large based on skin tone as well as a select features common to a group.
      So, thus why would someone of white ancestry and who possesses "white" skin then go and identify as "white-passing" vs simply white (which is a significant part of their heritage). I'm not sure if your profile pic, is you. But I feel think is more a question to be answered by someone who refers to themself as white-passing.

    • @jeanettesdaughter
      @jeanettesdaughter 2 года назад

      They understand it; they’re choice is different than yours. Who wants to live in constant emotional turmoil, fear of being found out, found wanting⁉️

  • @billybarnett2846
    @billybarnett2846 2 года назад +4

    People need to watch a movie called Pinky.

  • @e.diamond4080
    @e.diamond4080 2 года назад +38

    I LOVE Ruth Negga and Tessa Thompson. But I do not want to see this movie. Respectfully, I think it should have been made by someone who identifies as Black, or by someone who understands this particular phenomenon of Black passing for White in the US. This was very common for many years in many, many African American families. It was very common for African descendant people who phenotypically look European to "pass" and neglect their identity, their heirtage, and their family connections. This filmmaker just admitted to not understanding why one would choose to "pass" like her grandfather did, which is a position of privilege that comes from her grandfather's choice to pass. Ruth Negga (love her) admitted to not understanding that either. And Tessa Thompson (love her) is Black and Hispanic. I think it really dishonors a huge piece of the Black American experience by making a film when you do not even understand the subject matter. It makes me angry. Respectfully. Other films like Immitation of Life, Queen, or even that film with Anthony Hopkins where he plays a Black man passing for White seems to pin point the authentic complexity of this American experience of racial identity crisis.

    • @modernvintage3226
      @modernvintage3226 2 года назад +1

      @E.Diamond I Agree

    • @kathleenhiggins4027
      @kathleenhiggins4027 2 года назад

      Agree!!!!

    • @Johnnyiswhere
      @Johnnyiswhere 2 года назад +13

      You don't have to understand anything to create art. Only the human experience.
      It's not a documentary, it's a piece of entertainment also meant to enlighten

    • @norarojas5653
      @norarojas5653 2 года назад +4

      That’s why it is called acting

    • @stacycushinberry
      @stacycushinberry 2 года назад +1

      My Mother's Dad's side of the family was just like this "passing". My Mother wasn't accepted because she couldn't pass

  • @digrom3279
    @digrom3279 2 года назад +7

    Loved the movie

  • @tgflux
    @tgflux 2 года назад +19

    How did I not know Ruth was Irish? 🤔

  • @clarissagafoor5222
    @clarissagafoor5222 2 года назад +18

    The fact that Rebecca Hall does not understand why her grandfather worked so hard to pass as white is proof that we have come some way in improving our attitudes towards race!

    • @logiclanguagelearningFrench
      @logiclanguagelearningFrench 2 года назад +1

      I believe she knows very well and just doesn’t dish to drip herself in it statement wise

    • @e.diamond4080
      @e.diamond4080 2 года назад +4

      I think if you dont understand that choice then you do not understand how dangerous it was to be Black in those times/the 1920s or how much negativity that Black people face in society by being associated with being Black, so much so that it seeps into the psyche. This I believe is why people chose to pass. Because it was easier for them, even with separation from their families. And because they were not able to embrace their Blackness for whatever I internal reasons. The fact that she doesn't understand that points more to the fact that she presents as White, was raised White, and does not understand the Black experience. This is why it is offensive.

  • @lightuponlight6727
    @lightuponlight6727 2 года назад +16

    The interviewer is not in touch....his questions are weird af but Ruth and Rebecca shine bright anyway.

    • @ajs41
      @ajs41 2 года назад +5

      What's wrong with his questions?

    • @MichMosh
      @MichMosh Год назад

      Rebecca’s face when he asked that question about when did they realize they were part of a community... she was like sir no - not the same situation Ruth is a biracial woman. Bit tone deaf is him.

  • @garykemple1827
    @garykemple1827 2 года назад +1

    U guys are really makes this said story

  • @Carlyon100
    @Carlyon100 2 года назад +13

    I wished that the Claire character was played by someone who is racially ambiguous as the Director is. Ruth's ethnicity is obvious but Rebecca's embodies the storyline absolutely. While she is not on trial here it would be interesting to know how she navigates/negotiates the world vs how others see her. Passing is both passive and active, not so?

    • @beyondlondon8600
      @beyondlondon8600 2 года назад +8

      I think it's designed to be obvious to us (the audience) so that we have a constant anxiety that she might be caught.

    • @benscr
      @benscr 2 года назад

      I agree with you, but Rebecca is basically a white woman with a bit of African American heritage, so she’s not passing. Her grandfather was half black, her mother is a quarter black, and she even less so.
      The Jim Crow law OneDrop rule, as well as being racist, is outdated and not based on reality.

    • @beyondlondon8600
      @beyondlondon8600 2 года назад +2

      @@benscr You don't seem to understand that passing is rooted in Jim Crow and the one drop rule. People who passed made the decision to integrate into white society and were mostly white with African ancestry but unlike today, they were not viewed as being white "with a bit of black", they were wrongfully considered black. Therefore Rebecca Hall, had she taken that path would have been "passing", the fact that she is "basically a white woman with a bit of AA heritage" and therefore not "passing", is contradictory considering the view of the era. Nowadays though passing seems to mean a person who can simply be mistaken for white and in that sense I see your argument.

  • @maximusprime3459
    @maximusprime3459 2 года назад +11

    I wonder how often they even connect with the 'ethnic' side of their families.

  • @LeeBeeDeeTree51
    @LeeBeeDeeTree51 2 года назад +7

    Since we are getting into the politics of racial identity and passing, I'd like to comment on one casting practice that has always bothered me. Why do black/white biracial actresses get to play both black AND biracial when black actresses don't get to play biracial? Why does the gate only swing in one direction?

  • @juschill1
    @juschill1 2 года назад +1

    ok, so when is Ruth Negga going to do the Sade biopic. LoL

  • @AYKAY88
    @AYKAY88 2 года назад +4

    Rebecca could actually pass, not Ruth *irl

  • @zoodleinfo
    @zoodleinfo 2 года назад +7

    Passing is not always about skin tone. I have a story to tell as well. I’m black. I guess you would say. I’m more of a Diahann Carroll type person. So passing is not always about skin color. I never ever ever tried to pass ( act white ) that’s how I was perceived . I’m 52 - Doors were opened for me that others couldn’t get into. Jobs were available for me that were not available to white nor black. My ability to communicate with others well , is what open many doors for me. I knew I had favor. Favor isn’t fair

    • @TMorales131
      @TMorales131 2 года назад +7

      If you’re 52 years old that means you were born in 1969. That hardly puts in the era when people felt the need to pass in order to survive or were ashamed of being identified as black. Please don’t confuse the issue or worse yet delude yourself. Diahann Carroll looks would not have helped you during that period any more than Dorothy Dandridge’s looks helped her in the era before Diahann Carroll.

    • @wintersantiago2274
      @wintersantiago2274 2 года назад +4

      I’m sure you benefited from Colorism. Colorism is still happening today, so I can only imagine how bad it was for darker skinned women, who possessed the ability to communicate well with others, when you were younger.

    • @TMorales131
      @TMorales131 2 года назад

      @@wintersantiago2274 You’re so correct. Examples are everywhere historically but one of the best can be found in the documentary “I REMEMBER HARLEM” about the period that spanning the 1920’s-1930’s known as the HARLEM RENAISSANCE. There a point in the documentary that focused on White Department stores MACY’, SAK FIFTH AVE and others refused to hire people of color. After much protest from the black community they agreed to reverse their policy but blatantly told the community to “ send us your lighter skinned negroes. The community responded by telling them they would have to take whoever they send. Also, speaking of Harlem. Places like THE COTTON CLUB, which was operated by a white NY GANGSTER would only allow the lightest of black women be part of chorus line. Dark skin women literally were relegated to clown performances.

    • @zoodleinfo
      @zoodleinfo 2 года назад

      @@wintersantiago2274 It was easier for me than it was for white Women or light skin black Women ... There is also a thing called passing if your are attractive no matter what color the skin is. I"m serious- I never wanted to talk about it . But I always knew that skin tone had nothing to do with it

    • @zoodleinfo
      @zoodleinfo 2 года назад

      @@TMorales131 Well It works for me now and it worked for me then ... This is my truth I have always know that light skin has nothing to do with it - And- Your are right I have know idea what was going on in the 20s but in the 80s/90s and now Pretty will allow you to pass

  • @dyanasbdoriginalchannel1492
    @dyanasbdoriginalchannel1492 2 года назад +3

    They could've got Rashida Jones to play this part. She is white passing for real.

    • @killboggins
      @killboggins 2 года назад

      But they didn't so...

    • @superamanda
      @superamanda 2 года назад +1

      Thank you. Should have been her and Halsey.

  • @boipelomosoetsa9450
    @boipelomosoetsa9450 2 года назад +3

    Society: You're too young. Stay away from older women
    Older women: 👆

  • @mortichiweinstein7635
    @mortichiweinstein7635 Год назад +1

    I'm so glad Ruth's middle name is not Isa because it would be so wrong yet so right, for so many reasons! 😅

  • @melissachavez4210
    @melissachavez4210 2 года назад +39

    I really don't think Ruth Nega could pass for white. Edit: based on responses.... as a mother to two interracial children, I tend to notice when I see people of mixed ancestry and I have read about this particular subject for years. Looking at Ruth I would automatically assume she was off mixed ancestry because of her features, hair texture (even if it was blonde in the film) and eye color. My daughter has been mistaken for latino and Egyptian (both of these cultures have populations of mixed racial backgrounds) but is basically a light skinned black woman. My son has been mistaken for someone of Arabic descent as well but he has totally different facial features than my daughter. Neither could pass for white. Looking at historical photographs, I just felt that they could have casted the role to be a little bit more accurate about "passing. I have seen older white people that have features that made me think that they were passing because of eye color, hair texture, etc. Just my opinion. Rebecca, on the other hand, I would never have guessed any ancestry other than Caucasian.

    • @Gen-yh1jz
      @Gen-yh1jz 2 года назад +20

      How about an olive skinned Greek or Italian person? I know in the 1920s
      Italians were not considered white but you did not specify what you consider
      white. Also, I have not seen the film yet so is white anything that is not black?
      Spanish maybe? I think she was cast so the audience does not forget that her
      character is black. So we feel the danger she is in. How easily she can be outed.
      How hard it would be for her to start somewhere else and pass.

    • @TrangPakbaby
      @TrangPakbaby 2 года назад +6

      @@Gen-yh1jz nah. I didn’t even know she was half white. She looks like a fabulous looking black woman

    • @symoneb382
      @symoneb382 2 года назад +8

      @@TrangPakbaby Ethiopian and Irish

    • @yjk5737
      @yjk5737 2 года назад +1

      What about Rebecca?

    • @Gen-yh1jz
      @Gen-yh1jz 2 года назад +6

      @@yjk5737 I don’t think the audience would feel like Rebecca would be in the same
      position. She would not be accepted as a black woman in the black community
      because she looks white. She would be accepted in the white community based
      on her skin color. Even if she were caught she could deny or move on. Ruth on the hand does not look Anglo Saxon. If you watch her Good Morning America interview she could pass for an olive toned European. If someone said Ruth was black it would be a huge problem because she does look like she is. I think the over all point is Ruth is fighting for more opportunities. Unfortunately, it is going to cost her identity. Rebecca would not have the same struggle. Her struggle would be not being accepted in either community finding a place to fit in.

  • @Blackdove0421
    @Blackdove0421 2 года назад +18

    Ruth nor Tessa can pass why were they picked? Just asking.

    • @Nazaba09
      @Nazaba09 2 года назад +2

      Yeah I don’t think they can pass either.

    • @tinascott1306
      @tinascott1306 2 года назад +13

      They wouldn't pass in our community, but could in the white community especially back in the 20s, my grandmother could pass in the 20s and did use her light fair skin to do what Tessa character did, buy things in white stores, but lived as black in her neighborhood,

    • @Salonecutie1000
      @Salonecutie1000 2 года назад +8

      Passing is about skin tone not features

    • @colleenlewis2780
      @colleenlewis2780 2 года назад +4

      @@Salonecutie1000 Exactly! They go by a person’s complexion not features some white people think I’m white I’m black both my parents are black

    • @mimiad397
      @mimiad397 2 года назад +2

      @@Salonecutie1000 you can't pads on skin tone alone there is a reason why a black albino still looks black and will still face racism most of the time for being black.

  • @jewelcopeland8440
    @jewelcopeland8440 2 года назад +4

    This movie is from a white view point. Black is what we call it the race but it comes in all shades. They would have to be more pale to pass .

  • @ix-cacaoakasweetlibrasun3567
    @ix-cacaoakasweetlibrasun3567 2 года назад +5

    Passing?? These women are whole yt women. That 1 drop rule need to be thrown out. Because these women clearly have more than 1 drop of yt DNA.

    • @sergeayissi939
      @sergeayissi939 Год назад

      1 drop rule no longer makes sense today!

  • @sagesse1986
    @sagesse1986 2 года назад +13

    At 6:45 of course she was herself in the presence of black people. She longed for it. The movie does not show how she is when she is surrounded by white people. Does she conceal her black impregnated behavior with them??The two scenes with her white husband showed how scared she was if he found out about her identity but I supposed him not knowing much about black people and culture put her in a position where she can act a bit black.

    • @sagesse1986
      @sagesse1986 2 года назад

      Beside, it is strange how unclear their experiences are in this interview. who are « They » is it the whites the black the biracial or other. To me, since the movie is clearly on that topic and passing for an entire race, it is a pity that they seem to be tiptoing around it.

  • @NYD666
    @NYD666 2 года назад

    Welp, I reckon one would try to pass for a different race is too limit the daily danger. Autistics do this everyday. So why, fear and the desire for opportunities given only to those considered human (such as being treated like a human)

  • @candid0111
    @candid0111 2 года назад

    Oscars!

  • @orsisrutherford4705
    @orsisrutherford4705 Год назад +1

    These actresses are at least 50% white one and about 90% the other. So why the big fuss? We all come from Africa.

  • @grandinquizitor7412
    @grandinquizitor7412 Год назад +2

    This "one drop rule" is what makes this discussion so poignant. Rebecca Hall is partially black as her mother is of mixed ethnicity of black/white (Rebecca's grandfather is half black/white). Rebecca herself is a little bit black and is married to a white man. Genetics play an interesting role here because her kids can possible breed out Rebecca's African American lineage or faint characteristics of her black lineage will remain.
    There are so many passers in Hollywood. Actors and actresses who you wouldn't even think were partially of African American descent. Usually most would say they have Native American heritage over their distinct blackness. I often wonder if for Rebecca, was this film subtlety related to her own possible identity struggle. Anthony Hopkins starred in a similar film called the, Human Stain where his character portrayal was a passer for white and delt with exact same issues from a male point of view.

    • @missylearned9821
      @missylearned9821 Год назад

      Rebecca would then be 1/8 black which is what Thomas Jefferson’s children with Sally Hemings were and why they disappeared from the slave rolls at Monticello except for 1 as they became teenagers. I suspect they were sent off to acquaintances to live in freedom. I find this subject fascinating and sad all at the same time because human beings are simply human beings regardless of their skin hue.

  • @chipchipcheerio
    @chipchipcheerio 2 года назад +2

    Ruth is not passing.

  • @yourmom-qd9ek
    @yourmom-qd9ek 2 года назад +9

    For some reason - I think that some in Hollywood are playing up their "ethinc" roots when it's convenient - like say when I'm promoting a movie about passing as white. Because that is exactly what Rebecca Hall did her whole life ie. as an actress in most of her roles she has played white women. She does not look black or mixed at all - so this never affected her life in any meaningful way in today's film industry. Rebecca Hall you won't ever understand what it is to be black or mixed heritage and have mixed feelings about where you fit in. You have always fit in with those around you. Don't try to say now, that you had an epiphany about what it means to find oneself. It's so annoying!

    • @007Fusiion
      @007Fusiion 2 года назад +2

      I agree, in her own life and professionally. BUT, she’s always known about her mother’s struggles and probably wondered herself ‘will I look black/does this make me look black’? Etc. So, more psychological than a lived experience.

    • @BaileeWalsh
      @BaileeWalsh 2 года назад +1

      While I agree with your first statement and have noticed this with other films, I haven't seen any interviews with Hall for this film where she is really centering herself in such a narrative other than trying to know more about and understand her family history and that perspective. Not that I've watched more than a few videos for the film, though. I just finished watching the film and am looking to learn more about the behind the scenes stuff and hearing others' thoughts on it by watching videos right now.

    • @benscr
      @benscr 2 года назад +3

      Your 100% right, but a fact that’s overlooked is Rebecca Hall is really a white woman with a bit of black ancestry. Which is not the same as being mixed.

    • @superamanda
      @superamanda 2 года назад

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    • @superamanda
      @superamanda 2 года назад

      @@BaileeWalsh She BRITISH so she can NEVER understand. She is getting on and needs to change up her game career wise. She’s ALWAYS talked about her remote tiny amount of SSA and always scoffed at claiming it...

  • @garykemple1827
    @garykemple1827 2 года назад +1

    Well u guys make moves of it

  • @garykemple1827
    @garykemple1827 2 года назад

    No it's broken wat u guys did to o me

  • @latonyawilcher7088
    @latonyawilcher7088 Год назад +1

    I had an issue with Ruth. She’s one of those bi racial people who don’t want to say their identity. She says I’m Ethiopian and Irish. That’s your culture. What do she identify with. Black or white. She’s too careful on not choosing and people like her with brown skin. Drives me crazy. Being black is not a bad thing.

    • @TheJCMlove
      @TheJCMlove Год назад +2

      She doesn't need to 'choose', she is justified in embracing both sides of her heritage.

    • @stephaniewilliams168
      @stephaniewilliams168 Год назад

      @@TheJCMlove no it's not

  • @TravisPayne1
    @TravisPayne1 2 года назад +1

    ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @jidofole
    @jidofole 2 года назад +2

    Ruth looks bored

  • @Nazaba09
    @Nazaba09 2 года назад +10

    I love Ruth negga but she can’t ‘pass’ the way someone like meghan markle can. Bad casting.

    • @Im_so_Retro85
      @Im_so_Retro85 2 года назад +1

      Meghan Markle looks mixed. She doesn't look white at all. You can tell she isn't white right off the bat. I highly doubt she'd be able to pass in those times either.

    • @wintersantiago2274
      @wintersantiago2274 2 года назад +7

      @@Im_so_Retro85 Megan definitely looks white with a tan

    • @Im_so_Retro85
      @Im_so_Retro85 2 года назад +2

      @@wintersantiago2274 Not to any non-white person she doesn't. She doesn't look White at all. Her nose, her hair texture, even when it is straightened, is all a giveaway.

    • @Nazaba09
      @Nazaba09 2 года назад +1

      @@Im_so_Retro85 I’m latina and thought she was latina at least but that is still considered white.

    • @Im_so_Retro85
      @Im_so_Retro85 2 года назад +1

      @@Nazaba09 Latinos are not all considered white. I'm Latina as well. Most peoples of Latin American countries and the Carribean (Hispanics) are mixed. We are the product of colonization by the Europeans. That is why we come in all shades. Meghan is considered a "Mulata" in the Latino community. Refined facial features, but she obviously not a white woman.

  • @drakecomegetthiscake
    @drakecomegetthiscake 2 года назад +11

    Rebecca is a liar. Her grandfather passed because being white is easier, and Rebecca is no different.

    • @gm9222
      @gm9222 2 года назад

      Im sure for both reasons of safety and it definitely being easier as a given.

  • @queenwavySHAINAB
    @queenwavySHAINAB 2 года назад +6

    The move was boring to me.

  • @user-vo1ft9vn2n
    @user-vo1ft9vn2n 2 года назад

    lineage who you are. Not blk or wyt. lineage

  • @breeyatchful
    @breeyatchful 2 года назад +1

    i had no idea that rebecca hall was Black.

    • @ladygodiva5407
      @ladygodiva5407 2 года назад +2

      She’s not, her grand parent was and she wanted to connect with that story. But she does not identify or try to associate with the black experience.

    • @sergeayissi939
      @sergeayissi939 Год назад

      Rebecca Hall is white, married to a white man!

  • @Stopthecäq
    @Stopthecäq 2 года назад +2

    Ruth Negga was great (wonderful accent and acting) but I couldn't help but cringe in the writing..It's absolutely humorous what they did with Ruth's character with her husband..Probably the most unrealistic part was where her husband called here "Nig" it sounds like something a white liberal would think a racist would say, almost very child-like, kind of like the Jussie Smolliet Situation. Interracial marriages existed, and a racist who "hates" a certain race would definitely know if their partner was within the same kin of them. A lot of "they" thrown out in the film almost a subtle demonizing a certain group- just..another propagandist movie. Anyone who knew real history knows that you either tell the story objectively, or its bs. This was a leftist's fever dream.

  • @womanqween1912
    @womanqween1912 2 года назад

    answer this GAYAGENDA BE honest

  • @claudiamcclennon2874
    @claudiamcclennon2874 2 года назад

    Hi, Hall I would love to have seen a movie about your family passing White, your family was not the only Black people that cross over appeared White, Black people in Louisiana Creole family Black people appear White, everywhere in North America, Southern America, Washington D.C. Black people that appear White crossover you have families appear White but Black people like Stevenson's family, also Sequoias family passing White, Butler family's and appear White Passing White, appear White Proctor Family, cross over to White Black people passing White, grandmother lied, grandfather's lied, Black people crossover to White that appear to be white. Ancestry DNA can unlock all the secrets that your grandparents and mother and father-in-law. about United States of America still have the one drop of black blood rule of law on the book in 2021. America State of United have 1% Black blood rule in North America makes you Black in North America, Black people have been passing White ever since 1619 402th years ago, Spain kidnapped 20 human beings British stole 20 human beings slaves. Black Africa human beings cargo, from the Spanish ship. British Ship landed in 1619 Jamestown Virginia, aka today Hamptons by British 1619 402 year's ago in America, United States of America, Black people have been passing White ever since 1619 402th years ago, black people have been crossover passing as white the one that appear passed White. Black people that appear could passing White cross over. hundreds of black people passing as white it's can be million Black people crossover to White. Your children are not White but Black people. no human beings are mixed in North American still one drop of black blood have 1% Black blood rule in North America all White people should have a DNA Ancestry test,

  • @delrey874
    @delrey874 2 года назад

    What is this British woman who gets paid to make a movie about an African-American story? And this lightskinned woman is also Ethiopian-Irish, not American. I know it's just an act, but I don't like it when non-Americans use American stories to make money.

  • @mirmir4003
    @mirmir4003 2 года назад +1

    No one is taking about Alexander Skarsgård being racist. Even if it is for a movie that doesn’t make it right. 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @kb8170
      @kb8170 2 года назад +7

      🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @mirmir4003
      @mirmir4003 2 года назад

      @@kb8170 move along

    • @kb8170
      @kb8170 2 года назад +4

      @@mirmir4003 🥱

    • @uniqueben-judah1942
      @uniqueben-judah1942 2 года назад +7

      My gosh, what a dim-witted ass comment. And you have it out here for the whole interwebs to see! 😑🤦🏾‍♀️
      He's a whole actor, playing a whole role, which is the whole point of actors/ actress. If you're unable to grasp that simple basis, I'd highly suggest you get off of the social media, immediately. Ugh. . .so cringe/second-hand embarrassment inducing.

    • @TyraStanks
      @TyraStanks 2 года назад +3

      This comment is funny. Was he supposed to not be racist to make you feel better even though it’s just a movie? 😂