@@TH-rx1kt unlocked or not it doesn't really do much for ps3 since it barely reaches 60. And in Adabat it even drops from 30. Luckily series X can run Unleashed at full 60 so unlocked fps makes more sense here.
Kind of amazing to see that SEGA actually launched the game like this knowingly. Imagine they launched a game that performed like this today. Digital Foundry would tear them a new one.
PS3 is filled with games that can't hold a stable framerate or at least 'decent' framerate, howeverthis is definitely one of the most offending ones. Edit: I highly recommend to watch DF's 1080p PS3 Video - "DF Retro: PlayStation 3 - The 1080p Dream"
yup. A lot of this is due to the unique design of the ps3 and how it had many cpu cores, requiring devs to optimize the code to fully utilize all the cores, something that took a lot of work if you hadnt designed the game from day 1 with the multi-core stuff in mind. Its why a lot of ports for the ps3 just didnt run as well as on the xbox360 despite the ps3 having more overall power, the code is just not designed to run well with the console.@@LoweysLitsman
One of the reasons why this level caused me pain. Sonic would go so fast that I would lose control of him sometimes and hit a wall or the rocks. That running on water part was pain.
When I saw the fps counter jumping like that I thought "this guy's pc seems not powerful enough for a stable 60fps on rpcs3", then I realized this is just benchmarked on a PS3 itself 😂
im so happy this game can be played on an Xbox Series X at 60fps with no frame drops, it's increidble how it took 2 extra console generations for this game to be able to run conistently at 60fps. This game was even a little laggy on the Xbox One at 30fps but not as laggy as the 360 or PS3 version which I'm pretty sure the PS3 version is the laggiest
Is there a reason why I actually kinda prefer the lower framerate? It makes me feel like what I'm doing is so intense that even the PC can't handle it and it makes me feel cool.
My poor ass has only three options, the OG PS3 (where it drops to 20fps when the Xbox 360 would drop to 25-28fps, and it hitting 60FPS like 5% of the time), the Xbox One S (where's it's basically the Xbox 360 version but it's a bit better with framerate), or emulate it on my PC that was outdated the moment I bought it, where I can only hit a consistent 20-23FPS with input delay at a native 1280x720 patch instead of the 880x720 original and with better colors (and that's on Xenia, RPCS3 ran at like 15FPS, though at a native 1080p, so basically if the actual PS3 version ran at 1080p).
@@2fernandoc1 I know your pain. I can stand bad framerate (without screen tearing, if there are both then the game is broken to me), but I don't dare to play a game fast like Sonic Unleashed in this state 😅
Tip for PS3 player (playing on console not emulator) go to the screen resolution option there i think resolution will be set in 1080p set it to 720p it improves the fps manly in Adabat and Samara (Day stages) as this game did a trick to fool people as the game was made in 720p the game was just upscaled it to 1080p everything so that is why it runs so badly in the Xbox 360/PS3
Bro it's better not to play the game in 1080p on ps3 other wise you know it will be worst to see the frame rate dropping to 0-6 fps atleast this guy is getting 8-10 fps
@@ChrisThePlayer777 not really true. The PS3's lows are consistently lower than the 360's lows. Even with the ps3's cutback shadows compared to the 360 version, it still struggles with hitching on top of the generally poor performance. in general, most if not all multiplatform games ran better on the 360.
@@ChrisThePlayer777 Its not really about Opinions, objectively Unleashed ran worse on ps3. You rarely got to appreciate those unlocked frames since it was commonly running sub 30/20 fps.
It’s a shame this game had to be released on this hardware. I think Sega really took criticism about the frame rate in this game to heart, but in the wrong way, because 16 years later, this is STILL the best looking Sonic game. I wouldn’t be surprised if in their infinite wisdom they just told the devs to not strive for this kind of fidelity anymore to prevent frame drops.
This level caused me pain, bro would legit go so fast to the point where it would be so slippery to control him, moreso on the first part with the falling buildings plus running on water
Am i the only one that actually really enjoys the framerate dropping on ps3? It makes me feel fast, real fast. Like sonic himself is breaking the game.
@@ToonyTails even if you personally don't mind it you gotta admit that a game dropping to sub 15 fps while targeting 30+ is unacceptable especially considering the 360 version while still pretty bad performs better
@@herrhulahoop That's not how it works, literally you are watching less frames at the same time, like 20 images per second instead of 30-40 or 60 images per seconds, that's how fps works, but, even tho, fps didn't matter so much at the time, I enjoyed so much my 30fps capped unleashed on xbox 360 and I didn't noticed at the time. Good ol' times
Why they didn't have this version capped and have the superior Xbox 360 version uncapped, or preferably have both versions optimized to mostly hit 60fps is beyond me.
Optimizing this for 60fps on those decrepit consoles would be like trying to solve world hunger, this game was pushing insanely impressive graphics for the time and is by far one of the best looking games from that generation
@@ryukopropThe problem with this game wasn't that the hardware was bad or weak. This game aimed to look good at 1080p (upscaled) with the character models having the level of smoothness of a Pixar movie BEING RENDERED ON REAL TIME.
@@granixo The real time GI and advanced models are too much for the 360 and PS3. Generations scaled back on graphical quality and Sonic’s speed for optimization and to better fit the feature set of the 360 and PS3
wait, wasnt there an fps cap? man i wish the unleashed project had the game's day bosses and the mini bosses from unleashed, like would it be that hard to program the mini bosses in the stages? the big robot was replaced by a gun truck but it probably could use some of the code of the mini boss in the end of the unleashed level in normal generations
@@tamel7014 is it? like ive seen videos showing the ps3 with better fps in some places were the fps would go below 30 and normaly the xbox 360 is less powerfull than the ps3 buuut normaly there could be porting issues as an example the orange box in ps3 is the worst version for some bugs and lower fps in portal 1 but then valve released portal 2 for the ps3 and it didnt lag there
@@henrique_best686 yeah i think it was hard for sonic team to port this game to ps3 so which is why it has performance issues and looks inferior to the xbox version not to mention the bad optimization
@@2fernandoc1doesn't help Sony loved making their consoles so unnecessarily complex to develop for, no wonder why they switched to using a standard setup with an x86_64 CPU for the PS4 and onwards
![Sonic Unleashed - All Main Day Stages (60 FPS Boost) [Xbox Series S]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/aAOmfUnBP5A/mqdefault.jpg)
![Sonic Unleashed - All Main Day Stages (60 FPS Boost) [Xbox Series S]](/img/tr.png)
Xbox series X: Sonic unleashed
Xbox 360/PS3: Sonic leashed
PS3 is the only version that has unlocked FPS while the 360 is locked to 30 & Series X 60.
@@TH-rx1kt unlocked or not it doesn't really do much for ps3 since it barely reaches 60. And in Adabat it even drops from 30. Luckily series X can run Unleashed at full 60 so unlocked fps makes more sense here.
my Xbox One S has Sonic nleashed (runs between 25/30 fps, better than PS3\360, worse than Series X, idk about Series S)
Jungle Joyride might as well be the unofficial benchmark test for any console that wants to run this game.
Kind of amazing to see that SEGA actually launched the game like this knowingly. Imagine they launched a game that performed like this today. Digital Foundry would tear them a new one.
PS3 is filled with games that can't hold a stable framerate or at least 'decent' framerate, howeverthis is definitely one of the most offending ones.
Edit: I highly recommend to watch DF's 1080p PS3 Video - "DF Retro: PlayStation 3 - The 1080p Dream"
What u mean the peformance or the game itself
@@LoweysLitsmanJust look at GTA 4 on the PS3, it's just as bad if not worse
yup. A lot of this is due to the unique design of the ps3 and how it had many cpu cores, requiring devs to optimize the code to fully utilize all the cores, something that took a lot of work if you hadnt designed the game from day 1 with the multi-core stuff in mind. Its why a lot of ports for the ps3 just didnt run as well as on the xbox360 despite the ps3 having more overall power, the code is just not designed to run well with the console.@@LoweysLitsman
Games in this era often performed badly. If anything they'd be impressed with the art direction and tech behind this
3:00 lmao what a save
One of the reasons why this level caused me pain. Sonic would go so fast that I would lose control of him sometimes and hit a wall or the rocks. That running on water part was pain.
@@v_AsT it's pretty easy to control if you're drifting
@@sb2871 even while drifting on time, bro was just so dang slippery and it caused me to die a lot 😅
@@v_AsT that's true lol I got hit by those waterfalls a few times
Drifting feels good in this game when you stop boosting
If you wanna make a tight turn, slow down a bit so you dont get shot out the other edge
When I saw the fps counter jumping like that I thought "this guy's pc seems not powerful enough for a stable 60fps on rpcs3", then I realized this is just benchmarked on a PS3 itself 😂
4:34 gotta love that pause cut
It’s not a cut it always makes that sound at that exact part of the level for some reason.
im so happy this game can be played on an Xbox Series X at 60fps with no frame drops, it's increidble how it took 2 extra console generations for this game to be able to run conistently at 60fps. This game was even a little laggy on the Xbox One at 30fps but not as laggy as the 360 or PS3 version which I'm pretty sure the PS3 version is the laggiest
I really appreciate your channel because I'm somewhat obsessed with fps now
Same, numbers are funny
The chapter titles are funny lmao.
Is there a reason why I actually kinda prefer the lower framerate? It makes me feel like what I'm doing is so intense that even the PC can't handle it and it makes me feel cool.
5:08 has to be the most cinematic shot in a sonic game since this game's release.
I always remember this game with this scene
I envy Xbox players, they have 60fps on Series X (for free, instead of buying a remastered)
My poor ass has only three options, the OG PS3 (where it drops to 20fps when the Xbox 360 would drop to 25-28fps, and it hitting 60FPS like 5% of the time), the Xbox One S (where's it's basically the Xbox 360 version but it's a bit better with framerate), or emulate it on my PC that was outdated the moment I bought it, where I can only hit a consistent 20-23FPS with input delay at a native 1280x720 patch instead of the 880x720 original and with better colors (and that's on Xenia, RPCS3 ran at like 15FPS, though at a native 1080p, so basically if the actual PS3 version ran at 1080p).
@@2fernandoc1 I know your pain. I can stand bad framerate (without screen tearing, if there are both then the game is broken to me), but I don't dare to play a game fast like Sonic Unleashed in this state 😅
Tip for PS3 player (playing on console not emulator) go to the screen resolution option there i think resolution will be set in 1080p set it to 720p it improves the fps manly in Adabat and Samara (Day stages) as this game did a trick to fool people as the game was made in 720p the game was just upscaled it to 1080p everything so that is why it runs so badly in the Xbox 360/PS3
I'd say Empire City is the worst offender with the frame rate.
The guy who recorded this already dropped the display res to 720p 💀
Bro it's better not to play the game in 1080p on ps3 other wise you know it will be worst to see the frame rate dropping to 0-6 fps atleast this guy is getting 8-10 fps
If you thought 360 was bad, HOO BOY
PS3 is smoother than 360 the majority of the game i played both versions and i hands down prefer PS3
@@ChrisThePlayer777 not really true. The PS3's lows are consistently lower than the 360's lows. Even with the ps3's cutback shadows compared to the 360 version, it still struggles with hitching on top of the generally poor performance.
in general, most if not all multiplatform games ran better on the 360.
@@LateNightHalo that's your opinion but i will always prefer unlocked framerates
@@ChrisThePlayer777 Its not really about Opinions, objectively Unleashed ran worse on ps3. You rarely got to appreciate those unlocked frames since it was commonly running sub 30/20 fps.
I tried this game both on PS3 Slim and Xbox 360 E
And... yeahh i'm staying with PS3.
Besides, Holoska runs perfectly smooth on PS3.
In old times we had Morrowind FPS Optimizer that would hack draw distance to keep a certain fps. Very sad how that knowledge got lost.
It's like how when we were kids they eliminated the on screen sprite limit issue when processing got stronger around 2002 or so
It’s a shame this game had to be released on this hardware. I think Sega really took criticism about the frame rate in this game to heart, but in the wrong way, because 16 years later, this is STILL the best looking Sonic game. I wouldn’t be surprised if in their infinite wisdom they just told the devs to not strive for this kind of fidelity anymore to prevent frame drops.
This level caused me pain, bro would legit go so fast to the point where it would be so slippery to control him, moreso on the first part with the falling buildings plus running on water
Am i the only one that actually really enjoys the framerate dropping on ps3? It makes me feel fast, real fast. Like sonic himself is breaking the game.
thankfully we have xenia
My whole life ive been dealing with less than ideal computers, so I'm kinda used to performance like this
you know, i didn't got bothered by the frame drops when i played this
To Be Honest, same.
Yeah, me neither, kinda seems like an overblown problem imo
@@ToonyTailsweirdos find the smallest to nit pick about
@@ToonyTails even if you personally don't mind it you gotta admit that a game dropping to sub 15 fps while targeting 30+ is unacceptable especially considering the 360 version while still pretty bad performs better
@@herrhulahoop That's not how it works, literally you are watching less frames at the same time, like 20 images per second instead of 30-40 or 60 images per seconds, that's how fps works, but, even tho, fps didn't matter so much at the time, I enjoyed so much my 30fps capped unleashed on xbox 360 and I didn't noticed at the time.
Good ol' times
Too much 3D mach speed blast processing
The funny thing is that Sonic's own model is what's causing most of the frame drops 😆
Why they didn't have this version capped and have the superior Xbox 360 version uncapped, or preferably have both versions optimized to mostly hit 60fps is beyond me.
Optimizing this for 60fps on those decrepit consoles would be like trying to solve world hunger, this game was pushing insanely impressive graphics for the time and is by far one of the best looking games from that generation
@@ryukopropThe problem with this game wasn't that the hardware was bad or weak.
This game aimed to look good at 1080p (upscaled) with the character models having the level of smoothness of a Pixar movie BEING RENDERED ON REAL TIME.
@@granixo The real time GI and advanced models are too much for the 360 and PS3. Generations scaled back on graphical quality and Sonic’s speed for optimization and to better fit the feature set of the 360 and PS3
@@ryukoprop Yeah, i know.
But that does not make the 360 and PS3 "decrepit consoles".
wait, wasnt there an fps cap? man i wish the unleashed project had the game's day bosses and the mini bosses from unleashed, like would it be that hard to program the mini bosses in the stages? the big robot was replaced by a gun truck but it probably could use some of the code of the mini boss in the end of the unleashed level in normal generations
Fps cap is only on 360 which caps at 30 despite the fact that the 360 is the better performing version lmao
@@tamel7014 is it? like ive seen videos showing the ps3 with better fps in some places were the fps would go below 30 and normaly the xbox 360 is less powerfull than the ps3 buuut normaly there could be porting issues as an example the orange box in ps3 is the worst version for some bugs and lower fps in portal 1 but then valve released portal 2 for the ps3 and it didnt lag there
@@henrique_best686 yeah i think it was hard for sonic team to port this game to ps3 so which is why it has performance issues and looks inferior to the xbox version not to mention the bad optimization
8 MONTHS LATE SQUAD WHERE YOU AT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Game lookin like robot chicken sometimes 💀💀💀
12:45a.m. 4/1/2024
Overblown problem tbh. Not so bad at all.
Comments are saying this problem was overblown as the frame rate drops to 14 fps 💀
This game's optimization (especially on PS3) is a disgrace to both the game and the system.
@@2fernandoc1doesn't help Sony loved making their consoles so unnecessarily complex to develop for, no wonder why they switched to using a standard setup with an x86_64 CPU for the PS4 and onwards
To be fair, it really only drops that low in this one level, both times in automated sections where you’re just running in a straight line.