How To U-Turn On A Scooter
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its like moto gymkhana
Do you wear that suit during every ride?
I have a yamaha xmax 300 about the same as your BMW. I find lightly using the rear break helps doing slow maneuvers. Thanks for everything you do.
"There's no right or wrong. As long as you can accomplish what you're trying to do, that's the answer." I love that quote.
YES!
I like your quote
and accomplish what you're trying to do 'SAFETLY'
Great in this context... troubling in others lol
Oh ok
As a scooter rider, I found this very helpful. It's very hard to find videos for scooter tips as 99% of videos focus on motorcycles with a clutch.
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Another thing I learned from my years on a scooter: Notice how he shifts his weight while turning on slow speed. This is kinda opposite to when you turn on high speeds,you lean on the side of your scooter,but on slow speeds you got to shift your weight on the other side to keep the balance. Hope it helps!
I love all this scooter content arriving from you! I’ve been looking for ages but could never find good information before you started posting. Thanks!
A few more to go at least :)
Hello. I am watching your lessons from Jordan and I want to thank you. I've been working with a food delivery company on scooters for a year and a half. I drive every day for 10 hours in very unorganized, crowded streets that lack the slightest degree of order and order. However, I learn from your lessons and benefit. Thank you.
welcome! :)
Yep, 40 year rider here and I feel like a squid when U turning my Burgman 400 because no clutch. This is a great help, thanks. I've been using the rear brake but not leaning nearly as much as your demo. It should be noted how you're looking well into your turns and not at the front wheel. A lot of people don't do that as much as they should...and I include myself in that! Another great lesson from you and thanks for your scooter work. They are hugely underappreciated here in the US.
Oh finally great video about scooter turning tips!! I've been riding semi-auto motorbike without clutch so this is incredibly useful. Leaning the bike to turn / u-turn really does the trick for me. Still working on minute throttle controls to make it all smooth. Thank you - please post more scooter tips!
thanks :)
Just watched this again after a few months, since then I have bought a Honda forza 350 and every time I go out riding I practice this for 5-10 minutes (I stop after that because I get dizzy). It has helped me greatly, thank you.
Please keep these scooter lessons coming and coming from a great teacher like yourself I know they will be top notch thank you.
few more to come :)
Really appreciate these scooter videos. I lacked the coordination for manual so opted for a scooter (since then I've developed arthritis in my knees) all too often scooters are forgotten about on channels like this but, it's nice to feel included
Great video. Just came back from a ride on my new scooter. (I took delivery only three days ago!). I have been following your videos, so I practiced turning and u-turns for an hour this morning. Found a really tight round-about. Not easy at first, but I found that the body position on my Vespa that worked on tight turns was exactly how your body looked on your BMW! Haven’t ridden two wheels for ten years, so a lot muscle-memory is lost. I’ve been watching your videos for the past month as I prepared for the delivery of my scooter. Now actually riding, I run through your videos in my head. Many, many thanks!
Welcome!
Thank you for this explanation. Very valuable for all of us scooter owners. Please continue with explanations and comparisons with motorbikes. Best regards from Belgrade, Serbia.
You're welcome!
You are not alone :)
I'm taking an exam with a similar scooter bike to get a driving license. I'm very new to driving, this will really help. This is the level I want to be at when I'm taking the exam. Thanks!
I wish I had watched this video before. I passed the skill test with a motorcyle but could not pass it with my Vespa!! I have another test scheduled in two days. Going out now to practice using your tip. Thank you!!!
I was watching one of your videos on slow speed maneuvers on a geared bike just now. I recently got an electric bike so no Manuel clutch and wondered what the difference would be for doing it without manual clutch control. Then I saw this. Sweet! Thanks for all the videos you do.
Just bought my 2022 Honda ADV150 and this video has helped me tremendously!!! Thanks so much!
Best darn vid seen in ages, have been struggling to 'get it right' on my Yam XMAX so now it's out to the car park tomorrow! Thank you!
thanks :)
Good demo. I point Nose and kNees in direction of turn. Higher speeds I push one or both feet into sloped bulkhead, this gives me 'connection'. If I take a big bump , this is more comfortable and less upsetting. Having good INFO is key AND also continuing practice/maintenance .
Love your stuff man. this is so freaking helpful for us scooter riders specially in SEA region where many people use small displacement scooters as their daily service. Love from the Philippines! :)
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I saw when this video came out, now, a year later I've a 150cc scooter so I'm definitely paying attention. Gotta pass the test to get my license later on. Great video
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Thanks Greg, I’m so happy you got a scooter. I bought mine just few months before you did it. Best
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You are great! I just purchased a Piaggio BV400 and will practice and hope to feel confident in my turns.
These tips also apply to ebikes of which there are hundreds of thousands more lately (2022). A lot of older folks are buying and riding ebikes and having falls. One of the main techniques I see is keeping your eyes further ahead than you might be tempted to so you don't get tunnel vision and it works well for me. Something you brought up is power lag and surge and this is a definite problem with many ebikes. Anticipating when the power will kick in and keeping your hands over the brakes are important.
Thanks Greg, this video helped me a lot as a new rider owning a scooter. Appreciate it mate.
This helps a lot. When I got my permit, I was on a brand new Grom and modulating the clutch was key in the tight turns.
On my heavy (by comparison) 500 Tmax, the slow speed tight turns have been a challenge. I paid attention to your counter balance, and I will try your suggestions.
Thank you. Scooter Mob
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I am a new learner. I am having trouble with my turning. Thanks for the tip. Will try today. I am able to take the longer cut but tighter cut I am always braking and start keeping my foot down. I think I need to shift my weight which I am unable to do effectively. And throttle control is also an issue. I am either too high (then fear of ramming comes in) or too low. Need to balance properly I guess.
Thanks for the advice! I've recently bought myself a 125 scooter and had my first lesson last week. All was going so well until we reached the U turns! Thinking critically and not in a self loathing way I think I need to practise maintaining a steady slow speed and having a bit more faith when leaning/turning around tighter corners, it's so easy to just grab the brake when you feel like you're anything that's not upright. At the moment it's such an unfamiliar feeling as I've never ridden solo before (passenger, no problem quite happy to be a little koala and lean when needed). Practise practise practise. Thanks again for such helpful insight, Lucy x
You're welcome Lucy :)
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Good news... I passed my CBT and mastered those u turns!
@@LittleSteamMrs Yeah! Nice job!
I love that you're now making content for Scooters. I wonder if I can do this with my Yamaha Nmax. Been watching all Scooter videos. Hehe
I have about one more scooter only video I'm going to make :)
Thanks for this vid. I just practiced that on my little electric scooter. I think with electric, you don't have the delay, the reaction of the motor to the throttle is really immediate.
I got dizzy after those tight circles, lol.
Just brought the xmax 300, this was very helpful.💯🙌🏼
Some people are just worthy of views and likes. Thank you, my friend.
thanks
I did my basic training on a scooter recently. I would say to definitely figure out how to ride slowly first, which isn't really what I did. I was still working that out when being asked to to u-turns. I muddled through a few successfully, but was putting the foot down for a few too.
Was trying the braking while applying throttle technique, but was making rookie mistakes, like letting my steering affect my throttle. Still, was at such slow speed that a foot down solved any issues. I would rather put a foot down than put the bike over. No point in trying to run before you can walk kind of thing.
You have a very nice way of explaining. Great style and articulated speech!
These are vids are great, I just get riding and don’t really practice, but this has given me more ideas... thanks 🤟
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Finally! Good instructional videos on scooters! Much appreciated! Riding scooters is not the same as a regular bike, and is not as easy as one might think, specially on u-turns. Look forward to see more tips and advice. Regards from Mexico! Congratulations on your videos... They are excellent!
thanks!
It's so nice to hear that it's not just me with the U turns! I've bought myself a 125 scooter and had my first bike lesson last week, I was really pleased with my progress as I'd never been solo on any kind of bike....then the U turns arrived....I really struggled with that tighter turn. I was getting better with the slaloms, but those damn turns. Watching these videos and talking with others is helping, and of course practise is the best remedy! Regards from UK
Thanks heaps! I've got a 155 Tricity so I've got a little less than 20ft.
Hello from Perth Australia😊
Thank you for the great content. I look forward to trying out your app! Would love to see more scooter riding tips please 😊
I have no words to describe how in last years your channel got so interesting and helpful, really!
Only been doing this since mid-2018 :) thanks!
@@MotoJitsu I know. Watching you from the very beginning.
thanks
great advice i have a burgman 650 and it helps a lot to to use the rear brake in tight uturns
It could help :)
Lots of scooters in other countries. So glad to see this.
Please keep the scooter videos coming.I am a new scooter novice rider. 😊 Keith from Tasmania
Whole playlist :)
great vid, well presented, for power control, I like to use rear brake and throttle to control my power on tight turns, slow or fast, I'v worked at it on my bike with clutch, so it works with my scooter too, a little different, but, with practice one will find it very helpful, as in all riding experience, practice, practice, practice
Just found your channel yesterday you have the best teaching style I have ever seen concerning proper motorcycle riding I hope you r working as an instructor you have a gift to teach!👍🏻
Thanks! Yes my actual job is a motorcycle instructor...I just been making videos since mid-2018 and books, my app, etc. Been teaching since 2014 :)
Awesome! Glad you enjoy your job and get paid to help people learn to be safe riders. I’m taking CMSP motorcycle course in Fresno, Ca. This weekend. Was a little intimidated about figure 8 uturn which we have to do on skills test. After watching your video on that I totally understand how easy it can be I believe I will do fine. Thanks keep the videos coming!👍🏻
Sweet! Are you taking the beginner course? If so, it's called the MTC and there is no figure 8 on the eval. That's the MSF. The CMSP MTC is CA's beginner course....the MSF lost the contract in CA in 2014 that grants the license waiver with the DMV.
@@MotoJitsu yes I’m taking beginner course to obtain my license. I’m 42 yrs old been riding off and on for years but I need to be legal. Currently have a 1995 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 cruiser which is heavy but fun to just cruise with I have a channel called “just 4fans” where I do repair videos on my Kawasaki Vulcan.
Yes, in CA it's Total Control's Beginner Riding Clinic called the MTC. That's the course you'll take and that's what I teach almost every week since 2014.
Thank you so much for this scooter specific video! Very useful tips and information for scooter riders as myself.
At the exact second you wrote "i cant control helicopters", one just flew by here and I couldn't hear anything from what you said 😄
I lived there as a kid in the 90's on the edge of the golf course. Kinda miss the weather but don't miss California lol
This is impressive Eddie. Gives me a lot to practice!! Thanks
welcome!!
Thanks so much ! Love this guide on slow speed control with scooters.
welcome!
Thank you for your tips for scooters. Most of instructions are for motorcycles. Excellent video
Glad it was helpful!
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I suspect this will work with DCT's too. Amazing how well you get that scooter over. I am not close to this and have had mine 5 year in April.
more practice!
You are an amazing rider no matter what you ride!
Bike doesn’t matter once you get your skill high enough 👍🏼
Last year I was trying to get my u-turns to under a parking space on my 200cc. Finally, just got a 400cc and it's a land yacht.
I wish I had bars so I could actually practice without worrying about dropping it. Thanks for the helpful information. Unfortunately, now I know my scooter can do it so I don't have any excuses.
welcome, any bike can do it, just the rider can't
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Yay scooters really underrated commuters. There really is a different set of skills to use them well. Im getting mine soon.
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You can also push into your inside foot like ADV and off-road riders do when they stand up.
On a lot of newer apartments they all have that roundabout right in front. I practice on that about three four times when I find one. Perfect place to practice counter leaning
whatever works for you
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Thanks again for great content and showing us how easy it can be (with practice, of course).
Exactly :)
....... Glad to see a crashbar on there, that will save you a pile of money ! I was anxious to see the slow-speed U-turns, on my old Burgman 400 they are tricky, the brakes are linked, and the centrifugal clutch is in or out.... no feathering is possible. You obviously really enjoying the scoot, I think that's great ! Cheers from Brazil !
Protecting the bike is always #1 no matter what bike :)
@@MotoJitsu The practical road-test for a bike licence here in Pernambuco is interesting, it is a combination of almost all of your training weaves, 8s and more, but tighter turns and the whole course delineated by a 4 inch high brick wall, no lines painted on the pavement !!! Intimidating ! PM me and I can send you a plan with the measurements. :-)
Wow, thanks for the scooter specific material!! (Burgy 650 rider here)
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so close to scraping that bottom panel and exhaust it gave me anxiety. Nice work!
yes!
Good video sir , I've been learning a lot from your channel I'm a new rider and do practice often
I currently ride a 125cc bike for learning and I'm thinking I need a little bit more speed for the streets in my area I'm in-between two bike a Honda adv 150 or a royal enfield Himalayan will probably use primarily rode and maybe a little trail riding but nothing hardcore would you recommend for a beginner anyone's input would be amazing.
I was wondering how that automatic transmission fared while you were doing the last video with turns and such. I thought it would be way different having to rely on the transmission rather than using your friction zone and throttle together. Actually I never saw the scooter coming but I definitely respect your choice of bikes.
Bike doesn't matter :)
Well done! I admire your skills on any bike!!
Bike doesn't matter once you get your skill high enough :)
One more comment. I'm 70 y.o. and just a couple months into a 50cc scooter with 12" street tires. Years ago I rode dual purpose 250cc dirt bikes. These tiny tires are scaring me silly in any type of gravel-on-pavement situation. Any comments from you or from viewers ? There sometimes appears to be no "safe" speed on gravel - I've tried several, and slow is worst, but sometimes slow is all you can do in a given situation.
I like the crash bars. Are they sold by BMW or are they after market? Very nice tutorial. I felt most unsteady years ago going from a bike to a Vespa and I understand why now. Thank you.
Rear brake usage, while applying throttle gives the 'feathering" clutch feeling and instant power if needed.
What dainese gear are you wearing? Its not on the website link. Thanks greg
Excellent! A modest master of control.
When you turning riding a scooter you should move your core of your body in the opposite direction of the turning is that right? Also I think in a motorcycle (Race) you can't do the same is that right ? Because your body is laying on the Racer . Please correct me if I am wrong I am a beginner to this world of motorcycles but I am excited about it and interesting I have a scooter SYM symphony s
I've been riding bicycles since a kid so I when I started riding scooters I rode it like bike, I love riding slow speeds
This looks like Camp Pendleton. Do you guys offer msf course there?
I have watched 1 of your videos (but using a motorcycle there). You are pushing on the outside footpeg to counter-balance. How about on scooter where there is no footpeg, how or where is your outside foot pushing downward? Especially there is not gastank you can embrace or squeeze your legs onto.
Love these videos man!
Glad you like them!
Thanks for the helpful tips. Hoping for another downhill tips for scooter.
I have a video all about downhill confidence already :) MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, merch, etc.!!!
Very useful video. Just bought a scooter and wondered how to tight turn it without any clutch.
pretty dang tight! :)
I ride a small scooter daily. 125cc. For really controlled slow speed turns. Usually what I do I keep the throttle up enough to be in the clutch friction zone, and control speed with rear brake (using it like a clutch). Can also keep blipping the throttle to get it into friction zone and cover rear brake for speed control. Blipping works well for just short turns.. Like a quick u turn.. IMHO.
:) many ways to do one thing
I don't know why am i watching this when i'm already so good at taking laps on any motorcycle
As we use to say (translation won't be accurate): Who knows that one knows, who doesn't know just stares saying 'Wow!'. Can't wait for this season practice, I'm really motivated 😄
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Ok I have a question for you, I have a 2020 DCT honda africa twin. Trying to understand how to have throttle control , but I just saw your video on your scooter, I may try using my rear brakes on slow maneuvers. Just trying to understand my bike . Only have 2 days out of the week to go out and practice. My story is a very long one. I'll make it short. Got into a car accident and fell into a 5 1/2 coma and lost 90% of my memory, before the car accident use to ride motorcycle, but now learning all over again. Every chance I get just to watch your videos and listening to what you say, it's really helping alot. Thank you.
You're welcome! Keep at it...takes time to learn anything well :)
I'm amazed! 😍great video.
Thank you! 😊
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Great video. Thank you.
Very nice, also emphasizing what body position looks like 👍👌👌
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Hey man quick question I’ve been watching yer vids for a while and now the snows goin away from my country and my bikes comin back out lol I’ve been studying your knee down videos I was wondering should your knee hit the ground before the pegs I’m a bit of a noob or should the pegs not hit at all
There's no need to worry much about body position as a newer rider...many more things to learn and practice and get good at well before knee down. If you're scrapping your foot pegs, you're doing something wrong.
This is very useful, thank you for posting. A concern I have here is that I have nowhere to practice these U-turns. I live in a remote rural area and there are no parking lots here at all while the roads are very narrow. Must figure something out.
I'm sure there's a bank, school, church, dead end road, cul de sac, etc.
@@MotoJitsu LOL no, all that is 40 miles away. But I've found a couple of spots. So it will be fun and more challenging practicing when riding on these narrow roads.
you have a road outside your house right? go out there in the early am or night with no traffic and do some drills...it's not hard to figure out dude.
Im new to scooter riding but isnt that exhaust touching the ground and getting scratched?
this content suites me. i need more pratice to do this. thank you sir. 🛵😊
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need to do this with my honda click 150 I still have problem with tight turning without touching ground with my leg
Just saw this at your recommendation. Very helpful! I love the BJJ framework!
:) thanks
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Just downloaded your app. Getting back into riding after decades away (bad accident). Rode a Vespa for awhile when I returned but upgraded to a DCT recently because downshifting is how I got into that accident. Still a little PTSD but I have been practicing the white belt drills before (as a warm up) and after (cool down). Really find your teaching exceptional and technical; like a great BJJ class. Looking forward to doing all the drills! Thanks man! It’s like rolling - I hear my BJJ instructors in my head. Now I’ve got you in my head saying “turn the head - eyeball on chin and chest, body position, and leaning and counter balancing”! Word!
Thanks!! You're the best...keep at it!!
Could you possibly do a video (maybe you already did) on mindset/practicing to go on the highway. When I was younger, I had no fear (which was dumb) but now, I’ve practicing all the drills and going around the neighborhood and go on highways when no one is around (early in the AM). I am in no hurry of course but managing the anxiety/anticipatory excitement that goes with re-learning to go faster. Again, I am taking my time but I forgot HOW MUCH I ENJOY RIDING! Just want to do it safely! Any thoughts/recommendations would be greatly appreciated! Thanks ahead of time Professor!
I have videos about that already :)
Thanks!
i hope you will find to buy some Underbone bikes. Like the Yamaha Sniper 150 / Exciter 150 to demonstrate on how to properly ride those type of bikes.
Never heard of any of those.
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hi. how do you push/lean the scooter closer to the ground for that exercise. is it body weight or do you use your arms to push/drag the handle bar to the side. i'm a noob and planning to buy a scooter. also, i'm not that good with bicycles yet. thank you.
same way for any bike, counter steer :)
I am considering buying a 2004 Honda Silverwing but it has linked brakes and I’m wondering how that will affect u-turn control. I saw one other comment in that regard but no response from you about what to do differently. Maybe nothing?
I may have answered my own question. I just learned from the Silverwing forum that when you first apply the left brake lever the back brake kicks in then the middle pot on the front brake is applied after a slight delay. Pretty clever engineering by Honda. Evidently that design is specifically intended for low speed maneuvering.
This man got everything
:) Sure is fun to practice
Great video! Is knee dragging possible with a 90/80front 100/80rear tire sizes?
tires don't matter.
Ah, I was practicing on my Navi and I was leaning it but I see I wasn't giving it enough throttle, time to go try again
I would like to see you doing it again, but much slower. I maintain the throttle and control the scooter with the rear brake all the time, because I am going at a fraction of this speed. When I do a figure 8, I virtually stop to do the transition - that is the level I want to work at where the scooter is not going fast enough to help balance. To do a left turn or right turn, I come to a stop, turn head and bars almost together, then make the turn. Feet still stay on the boards at all times, but I balance when almost stationary. I would like to see trainers do this on a scooter, like they do on baggers in police training.
exactly what i need, i am learning with a scooter
Great!
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Where do you get your guard bars from for a Maxi Scooter which I see on your scooter? what is the correct name for them please? I am a Learner and I have lost count on how many times I have dropped my scooter from a stationary or stopped position. My problem is I turn the handle bars a whisker too much past its pivot point. How do I correct it ? How do you pick up a fallen heavy 200kg scooter on my own? Thanks for your video I will sure keep watching for more hints and tips.
from BMW :)
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Great video mate just bought a scooter and my turning circle is bigger than a bmw lol
thanks
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Yooo this riding course is in Camp Pendleton where i took my BRC!
:) yup
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Helicopter trading going on. Sounds like a Bell doing training.