@@antonbagel This sounds like a folk story they tell children. He kept sawing his shotgun until one day he actually got robbed, he fired his gun and the unburnt powder set his house on fire.
@@minhducnguyen9276I’m just imagining some guy frantically and religiously buying a shotgun, and sawing off about 80% of the barrel every single morning till one day he starts renting an apartment because he doesn’t fit inside his house anymore due to the sheer amount of sawn off barrels and shotguns.
@@tricksterjoy9740 Probably because everyday he met someone walking by telling him whether he was sawing his gun too much or too little. That's how fables often go. "On the first day an old man walked by and told him:"Son you are cutting the barrel too much, it won't hit the broadside of the barn."" So he bought another gun and saw it a little bit but another man walked by and told him:"Brother, the gun is too long, you can't move around your house with that. You need to cut down the stock" And the next morning when he was sawing the stock another man walked by and told him he can't aim with a stock like that, it needed a vertical grip. So he bought a vertical grip and when he was installing it another old man walked by and told him all that tacticool stuff he's sticking on the gun are useless and he should just get a good old double barrel. So he bought a double barrel like the one he started with rinse and repeat."
From experience. If you snap a foil or sabre halfway down, it will be more than sharp and sturdy enough to puncture clothing & skin! Learnt that one mid match
Take a page from 19th century British officers, one handed blade combined with a sidearm for the drip and functionality (a sword is useful if someone closes the distance). Use a Mauser C96 or Pattons ivory revolver for max drip
Someone breaks into your house at night, and as they're rummaging through your kitchen, they hear you shout "Over the parapet! Charge!" They turn around to see your children charging them with bayonets, you following closely behind with pistol and sword.
@@jeffreymonsell659 "Quite resourceful my good man, any child old enough to work in the coal mines (6 years old) has the necessary mental and physical accumen to die for his king and country" Sips tea
My downstairs neighbor fended off a home invader. He used a gun. He also has nine bullet scars (18, if you count entry and exit). Turns out you can still crack off a round from the ground while nearly bleeding out.
@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong you would hope it went through and through, with bullets being made of lead (lead poisoning) and the bullet itself impeding the healing process
@@hunter121347 bullets going all the way through your body can actually be much worse, for a multitude of physics reasons. but mostly it makes it harder to patch up the wounds.
@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong you're either a really good troll or just uninformed because its the complete and utter opposite of what you just said , im not a doctor and i dont care to educate you, a simple google search can prove you wrong (or common sense)
When it comes to any fight, it's best to end it as soon as possible. So, no a fencing saber is not the right tool for the job. Especially since the metal will slide and bend and remain flexable. A baseball bat or a wooden stick of any kind is always the go to cause it's easy to use and can do a lot of damage
Hell, a solid plastic staff would work if you have nothing else. I would recommend a baseball bat or golf club but some people don't have those and also don't live in the woods so they don't have sticks.
There was (at least) one guy who fended off a home invasion with a katana. I bet he was thinking, "Yes! Finally!" And when I tried to find the story, I found multiple examples. So clearly there's multiple folks with the idea.
Of the 3 swords, epees are the stiffest. Heck, part of the culture behind the development of epees was that sometimes friendly fencing escalated into first blood duels in which the combatants snapped the button off the tip.
If you put the blades on a gabrit test rig, however, sabre is the stiffest....it's allowed half a centimeter LESS deflection under the test weight than epee.
Why do people insist on looking at intentionally non-dangerous sports tools and going "is it good for home defense🤡" EX: fencing swords, airport guns, nerf guns (not a joke)
Possibly similar to why so many people say "just use a gun." They don't understand self-defense and overall context in that situation. This video is less asking the question, more educating.
@@DarkMatterX1 my dad never owned one and I only have one cause it was my grandpa's. Also, the U.S. is a very small part of the world. Maybe think outside your experience
Samurai did use bokken for home defense, some records even show that some prioritized a bokken over picking up one of their shirasaya, since they'd be fighting indoors and the most reliable attack in a home where you can't necessarily complete a full swing in a hall would be a stab. Samurai would be familiar with swords binding in cloth or flesh, and if their hands slip forward, their fingers are chiclets after that.
If you were trained with either of those training swords and wanted something for home defense, why not just get the real version of the sword? I guess some places might outlaw swords, but yeah at that point just get a heavy stick lol
Fencing longsword is a better choice imo. Without protective gear there’s a decent chance a committed strike can break weaker bones and if you hit the head a concussion is pretty likely.
I think you're underestimating the power of a steel whip that is stiff enough to poke out an eye or damage a laryx. Remember that fencers wear a steel helmet and padding for a reason. It's not the best, but it's far from harmless.
For general fencing safety, yeah. For self-defense, only having a small handful of small targets that will have any significant effect would not be ideal in high stress conditions.
As a saberist I could probably find some way to deal a tad more than bruises with a saber if need be. Also saber blades are like $25 to replace so don’t be afraid to make the tip sharp by breaking it. Watch out for metal splinters though
Just break out a M1917 U.S. Navy cutlass. Not only does it have the stabby-stabby and slashy-slashy, but it keeps the full guard and much more manageable size for confined quarters like a hallway or living room. And it is better suited for the job.
As long as we have Hornady Critical Defense, Liberty Civil Defense, that nasty Black Hills stuff, or whatever else like that, I think melee blunt force trauma might want to take a seat in the back. Now, taking outside of countries with firearms or pepper spray or something, I might opt for a frying pan simply because the surface area might be somewhat decent protection. Might be a bit heavy and strain the wrists though, but as far as heavily improvised weapons go that probably all households have (not everyone has a baseball bat), I don't know what else I'd pick.
A hema saber is better in this context, it will break hand, knees, collar bones and skulls, and I train with it against resistance often so an untrained dude with a bat would be easy pickins.
My grandfather gave me his romanian army sabre he got from HIS grandfather. Right after I left the romanian army (which was also when he was diagnosed with brain cancer) Both have shed some blood through home defense. Hopefully, I wont have to.
Spear Very effective and back up claim Works in the UK Can be home made quite easily Reach since the most common weapon criminals will more likely be a short knife
I never understand the idea of not escalating home invasion situation. Had such situations quite often, grew up in a rather not very safe country. Most burglars run at a sight of weapon. One that doesn't run, won't be respecting your rights, nor law, nor have mercy. By the way, musket will not deter home invader that much. Bayonet does way better. Don't ask how I know.
A person I know explained to me how she used fencing training and a long stick to once keep an assailant at a distance, particularly in the context of how much I looked down on the sport of fencing. At worst, it would work like a larger self-defense whip, a stiffer one with a hand guard, which can be held in reverse grip, and which can take out an opponent's eye, especially if armed with a shorter weapon like a knife. Even if the assailant was armed with a gun, the fencing saber is quick, could catch them off guard, possibly knock the gun out of their hand if the hand is struck, and a quick blow to the throat might incapacitate. Still, not as good as a long club or heavier stick.
I personally think its better to own a musket for home defence as that's what the founding fathers intended Also black powder weaponry is scarily easy to procure
It’s better than nothing, but all these options have the severe disadvantage of requiring you to be close to your attacker. Meaning one mistake and you’re out of options. I understand it’s not an option for everyone, if you’re worried about self defense and can get a firearm, do that. It’s not as cheap as a baseball bat, and requires more training, but it’s perfectly attainable.
My uncle once beated a man who invaded his home. He jumped his wall and slept at his coutyard, probably drunk. However he did not use a saber or sword, but a belt! He shouted "Sir, don't hit me, please sir, don't hit me", and jumped the wall back to the street.
At my fencing club there’s a joke that the best weapon for a zombie apocalypse is epee because the guard is the heaviest and the blade is strongest making it the best mace
Fencing sabers do hurt like hell even with protective gear. They're also pretty difficult to block effectively, because they're ridiculously flexible and often bend around a parrying or blocking weapon to still strike the target. But yeah, a bokken or shinai is definitely a better choice; there's a good reason kendo/kenjutsu protective equipment is so heavy and thorough. You can absolutely bust heads with those practice swords.
Remember watching a video where a guy used a machete as home defense against his neighbor’s crazy ex. The assailant was deterred and in fact slapped aside the blade, knocking it out the machete out the man’s (seriously, the dude had a poor stance and grip). So like with firearms, a sword should be maintained, the owner well trained, and lethal. Cause even though no one (well rational) wants to take a life, one shouldn’t rely on the threat of violence for someone will answer the call. On a side note, you should look up Sir Trude, first female knight of the SCA (the combat) who also whipped out a sword and scared away four would be muggers. (She was decently trained with a sword and was wearing chain mail armor. The Snappy one liner was just the icing. There’s even a song about it called “I See Your Six”. The song is worth a listen.
If this home or self defense then the situation has been elevated to a point where your life is possibly in danger. I don't think it matters what they're thinking pull out a damn weapon.
Long swords in houses aren't very ideal because of the limited space of area. You might hit the sofa or wall or tv. I would think of a short sword or anything more than 12 inches to 18 inches. In a scenario, do not provoke but hide & call authorities. If your cover is blown, it's too late because you're too close.
We discussed this at my HEMA group and the immediate answer is that you'd get arrested for threatening a home intruder with a dangous weapon and would most likely have all your swords and more confiscated by the cops. Just use your fists!
Think it's too long to use effectively inside a building. With the blade cut short, might make a decent trench spike type of thing, or the guard alone as one heck of a brass knuckle?
To everyone saying get a gun: you are statistically more likely to use it on yourself than an intruder. Unless you're living somewhere that's like, guaranteed to have dangerous intruders, it's probably not worth increasing your risk of death so much for a possibility which might not ever happen. I mean, it's a risk you can take, but it's not this magic cure-all solution that everyone should do regardless of their situation. Okay, back to the video topic: A video about how best to use that bokken against an intruder (differences from how you'd use the sharp steel version especially, should you still bother with edge alignment?) would be interesting and potentially quite useful to a decent portion of your audience who probably have one lying around.
I completely disagree. What matters is your skill level. That fencing sword can easily kill an invader into your home if you have the skill to attack the proper points. If it is at night do NOT turn on your lights. That puts YOU at a disadvantage. You should know how to move around your house at night without lights. I see you're more of an edge weapon man. I prefer them too. They've always been scarier and more effective in close quarters than guns. You're also less likely to accidentally kill a family member. If the break in is at night, I have to assume the attack is more dangerous than during the day, when most break ins happen. So they've already escalated. So, in the dark, with my sword i am going center of the belly. They are going to move, so unless you're very skilled, aiming for the head or neck is risky. But the belly is good for those who've never been blooded. If they try to avoid, they run the risk of offering their spleen and kidney or the liver, kidney aorta and vena cava. If they don't turn, you can pierce their intestines, possibly stomach and heart if you angle up. No matter what you hit, they are going to try to get away. And assuming they can make it, they're going to the hospital. Or they dīe. So, even if they get away, it's easier for cops to find them. Happy hunting!
If there is a bad guy threatening, he has ALREADY escalated the former normal situation! If you, the defender, sees no option but to face this sudden threat, you are JUSTIFIED to use whatever means to defend yourself! Of course, it all depends what type of weapon he has, but keep this in mind: bad guys are not looking for a FIGHT, they are looking for VICTIMS!!! If you put up a good fight they won't think you're worth it; have you seen vids of smaller animals standing up to predators in the wild? Same principle.
Same logic as using a non gun that looks like a real gun. Not a great idea, cuz now they think u have just pulled a gun and will respond accordingly. Never try to scare someone attacking u away by trying to trick them into having a more dangerous weapon than u have. Cuz they might ACTUALLY have a weapon to match what they think u have.
nah fr tho? i'm gonna have a greatsword and full plate (i'll most likely already be suited up) nothing more intimidating than seeing someone dressed in full plate armor and a greatsword ready to end you breaking in
Wait, aren't you the guy who also used to say firearms are too much for personal protection? Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but sounds like you're advocating for a defence weapon that can match escalation to begin deescalation. Like a gun.
I'm 100% certain I've never said firearms are too much for personal protection. I've said that they're not ideal for 100% of the global population! But that's a tiny bit different.
@@MarcusVance as I said I very well could have been mistaken, haha. My wife and I are disabled and have lived all around NY, commuting to Manhattan by train. I've always been a firm believer that firearms make all men tall. Hope I didn't come off as condescending, the other reply makes me feel like it has. I enjoy the content, alongside hoping for a day that we are all made equal as possible. My best to ya, mate.
I prefer an axe. Imagine when you broke into someone home and see a big guy wearing old-dirty t-shirt with an axe in his hands. Im gonna piss right there
Wouldn't the rusted rebar get you in trouble if the intruder survives since they will probably develop some kind of sickness from it? Because I think most courts would probably agree thats just overkill
I really don't like "just get a gun." They are a significant investment in order to get to an ethical level of proficiency, and even then they are not a good fit for every situation.
Gun and sword is the best combination, 1, your functional against assailants with guns, 2, your dipped out like an 18th century officer, 3, you have options should someone close the distance on you
@@MarcusVance Agreed. But at the end of the day they’re the best force multiplier out there. I’m a woman who’s used a wheelchair from birth. I choose not to carry a gun for religious reasons, since I don’t believe my life is more valuable than anyone else’s. But for someone else in the same position, there’s not even going to be an intimidation factor if you’re wielding anything less.
@@MarcusVancejust get a shotgun, doesn't require much aiming so long as your vaguely pointing it in your targets direction and learning how to reload should be easy (tho odds are you most likely won't have to reload after the first shot or two)
I don't know if replies to specific people work, but don't "just get a shotgun and not worry about aim." One of the first rules if guns is to know what's behind your target. If your entire plan is to just shoot in a general direction and hope, then you should not ethically have a gun.
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Personally, I own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended 😉
4 ruffians broke into my house
@@justyouraverageguy8404 "What the Devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle
@@Dockultra and blew a golf-sized hole trough the first one. then....
Drew my second pistol and missed entirely because its smooth bore
@@Lratio-ke4ny and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs
Break the top off and use it as a metal fist with a spike.
If you're willing to break your training weapon for self defense, you mean business.
That's why I saw off shotguns daily
@antonbagel the atf would like to know your location
@@antonbagel This sounds like a folk story they tell children. He kept sawing his shotgun until one day he actually got robbed, he fired his gun and the unburnt powder set his house on fire.
@@minhducnguyen9276I’m just imagining some guy frantically and religiously buying a shotgun, and sawing off about 80% of the barrel every single morning till one day he starts renting an apartment because he doesn’t fit inside his house anymore due to the sheer amount of sawn off barrels and shotguns.
@@tricksterjoy9740 Probably because everyday he met someone walking by telling him whether he was sawing his gun too much or too little. That's how fables often go.
"On the first day an old man walked by and told him:"Son you are cutting the barrel too much, it won't hit the broadside of the barn.""
So he bought another gun and saw it a little bit but another man walked by and told him:"Brother, the gun is too long, you can't move around your house with that. You need to cut down the stock"
And the next morning when he was sawing the stock another man walked by and told him he can't aim with a stock like that, it needed a vertical grip.
So he bought a vertical grip and when he was installing it another old man walked by and told him all that tacticool stuff he's sticking on the gun are useless and he should just get a good old double barrel.
So he bought a double barrel like the one he started with rinse and repeat."
The trick is to learn to fence with a sawed off shotgun.
En garde
@@slikbac6656 BOOM!
It's only "fencing" if you put a bayonet on it
@@nicholashodges201 Love it. Makes perfect sense.
From experience. If you snap a foil or sabre halfway down, it will be more than sharp and sturdy enough to puncture clothing & skin!
Learnt that one mid match
A friend of mine was injured by a broken epee in fencing. He had to rush to the closest hospital to get patched up despite wearing full fencing gear
Take a page from 19th century British officers, one handed blade combined with a sidearm for the drip and functionality (a sword is useful if someone closes the distance). Use a Mauser C96 or Pattons ivory revolver for max drip
Someone breaks into your house at night, and as they're rummaging through your kitchen, they hear you shout "Over the parapet! Charge!" They turn around to see your children charging them with bayonets, you following closely behind with pistol and sword.
@@jeffreymonsell659 "Quite resourceful my good man, any child old enough to work in the coal mines (6 years old) has the necessary mental and physical accumen to die for his king and country"
Sips tea
Hell yeah, let's buckle some swash!
use the rifle spear from bloodborne
My downstairs neighbor fended off a home invader.
He used a gun.
He also has nine bullet scars (18, if you count entry and exit).
Turns out you can still crack off a round from the ground while nearly bleeding out.
oh my god, they ALL went through? that sucks
Better scars than a corpse.
@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong you would hope it went through and through, with bullets being made of lead (lead poisoning) and the bullet itself impeding the healing process
@@hunter121347 bullets going all the way through your body can actually be much worse, for a multitude of physics reasons. but mostly it makes it harder to patch up the wounds.
@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong you're either a really good troll or just uninformed because its the complete and utter opposite of what you just said , im not a doctor and i dont care to educate you, a simple google search can prove you wrong (or common sense)
When it comes to any fight, it's best to end it as soon as possible. So, no a fencing saber is not the right tool for the job. Especially since the metal will slide and bend and remain flexable. A baseball bat or a wooden stick of any kind is always the go to cause it's easy to use and can do a lot of damage
Hell, a solid plastic staff would work if you have nothing else. I would recommend a baseball bat or golf club but some people don't have those and also don't live in the woods so they don't have sticks.
I think he is assuming that the intruder is not wearing any armor is armed with gun
Shotguns work *great* in home defense situations. Only real downside is they usually start running as soon as they hear the pump cycle...
Attach a car battery to it and wear rubber gloves and you got a pretty good shock prod
You have more sense on self defense than most instructors on RUclips!
I literally had one of those dogwater holds right before this
@capvux I'm sorry but i don't understand what that means. Do you mind explaining?
The only self defense weapon you need is a lawyer to protect you in the court after injuring the buglar.
There was (at least) one guy who fended off a home invasion with a katana. I bet he was thinking, "Yes! Finally!"
And when I tried to find the story, I found multiple examples. So clearly there's multiple folks with the idea.
Things get rough if they got guns, but there would be no greater moment in life should you win
@@phil3751 Eh, battles have been won before with melee weapons against guns. Not the first time, not the last time.
@@phil3751That's why you gotta have sword and gun, no ruffian is getting close to someone who can kill from a distance or up close
@@elpirataretro8734 facts
Of the 3 swords, epees are the stiffest. Heck, part of the culture behind the development of epees was that sometimes friendly fencing escalated into first blood duels in which the combatants snapped the button off the tip.
If you put the blades on a gabrit test rig, however, sabre is the stiffest....it's allowed half a centimeter LESS deflection under the test weight than epee.
Why do people insist on looking at intentionally non-dangerous sports tools and going "is it good for home defense🤡"
EX: fencing swords, airport guns, nerf guns (not a joke)
Possibly similar to why so many people say "just use a gun." They don't understand self-defense and overall context in that situation.
This video is less asking the question, more educating.
Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.
Krauser would disagree
Who tf mentioned a gun? You are only assuming your attacker is armed specifically with a gun
@@illam9500
My man, it's the US.
Everyone has a gun.
@@DarkMatterX1 my dad never owned one and I only have one cause it was my grandpa's. Also, the U.S. is a very small part of the world. Maybe think outside your experience
@@illam9500
The US is the only part that matters.
Samurai did use bokken for home defense, some records even show that some prioritized a bokken over picking up one of their shirasaya, since they'd be fighting indoors and the most reliable attack in a home where you can't necessarily complete a full swing in a hall would be a stab. Samurai would be familiar with swords binding in cloth or flesh, and if their hands slip forward, their fingers are chiclets after that.
Not to mention their swords were often kept in nice latched or knot tied boxes in the home while bokkens would be left more accessible
If you were trained with either of those training swords and wanted something for home defense, why not just get the real version of the sword? I guess some places might outlaw swords, but yeah at that point just get a heavy stick lol
Yes, but what if they, too, enter your house with a fencing sword. Then you're in business 😂
Fencing longsword is a better choice imo. Without protective gear there’s a decent chance a committed strike can break weaker bones and if you hit the head a concussion is pretty likely.
"It looks like a sword so it could intimate somebody"
Typical home invader when they see someone wielding a sword: "Haha, nerd!"
I think you're underestimating the power of a steel whip that is stiff enough to poke out an eye or damage a laryx. Remember that fencers wear a steel helmet and padding for a reason. It's not the best, but it's far from harmless.
For general fencing safety, yeah. For self-defense, only having a small handful of small targets that will have any significant effect would not be ideal in high stress conditions.
I’ve watched at least one sword fight in a movie, so I’m pretty good with these things
As a saberist I could probably find some way to deal a tad more than bruises with a saber if need be. Also saber blades are like $25 to replace so don’t be afraid to make the tip sharp by breaking it. Watch out for metal splinters though
"break the tip"
You make armorer sad....
What's funny is a HEMA longsword feder would probably be pretty good for this.
Just break out a M1917 U.S. Navy cutlass. Not only does it have the stabby-stabby and slashy-slashy, but it keeps the full guard and much more manageable size for confined quarters like a hallway or living room.
And it is better suited for the job.
As long as we have Hornady Critical Defense, Liberty Civil Defense, that nasty Black Hills stuff, or whatever else like that, I think melee blunt force trauma might want to take a seat in the back. Now, taking outside of countries with firearms or pepper spray or something, I might opt for a frying pan simply because the surface area might be somewhat decent protection. Might be a bit heavy and strain the wrists though, but as far as heavily improvised weapons go that probably all households have (not everyone has a baseball bat), I don't know what else I'd pick.
A hema saber is better in this context, it will break hand, knees, collar bones and skulls, and I train with it against resistance often so an untrained dude with a bat would be easy pickins.
My grandfather gave me his romanian army sabre he got from HIS grandfather. Right after I left the romanian army (which was also when he was diagnosed with brain cancer) Both have shed some blood through home defense. Hopefully, I wont have to.
Spear
Very effective and back up claim
Works in the UK
Can be home made quite easily
Reach since the most common weapon criminals will more likely be a short knife
I never understand the idea of not escalating home invasion situation. Had such situations quite often, grew up in a rather not very safe country. Most burglars run at a sight of weapon. One that doesn't run, won't be respecting your rights, nor law, nor have mercy.
By the way, musket will not deter home invader that much. Bayonet does way better. Don't ask how I know.
A person I know explained to me how she used fencing training and a long stick to once keep an assailant at a distance, particularly in the context of how much I looked down on the sport of fencing.
At worst, it would work like a larger self-defense whip, a stiffer one with a hand guard, which can be held in reverse grip, and which can take out an opponent's eye, especially if armed with a shorter weapon like a knife.
Even if the assailant was armed with a gun, the fencing saber is quick, could catch them off guard, possibly knock the gun out of their hand if the hand is struck, and a quick blow to the throat might incapacitate.
Still, not as good as a long club or heavier stick.
Epee blade is thicker and easier to put a stiff point on. Right through the gizzard it will go.
You should get a 2-H Sword, longer and heavier, that is a good blunt weapon
I personally think its better to own a musket for home defence as that's what the founding fathers intended
Also black powder weaponry is scarily easy to procure
It’s better than nothing, but all these options have the severe disadvantage of requiring you to be close to your attacker. Meaning one mistake and you’re out of options. I understand it’s not an option for everyone, if you’re worried about self defense and can get a firearm, do that. It’s not as cheap as a baseball bat, and requires more training, but it’s perfectly attainable.
My uncle once beated a man who invaded his home. He jumped his wall and slept at his coutyard, probably drunk. However he did not use a saber or sword, but a belt! He shouted "Sir, don't hit me, please sir, don't hit me", and jumped the wall back to the street.
Aim for the eyes, throat, center mass just keep on jabbing
At my fencing club there’s a joke that the best weapon for a zombie apocalypse is epee because the guard is the heaviest and the blade is strongest making it the best mace
I was playing this loud in the kitchen, then my shotgun down the hall laughed out loud and said na bruh.
Fencing sabers do hurt like hell even with protective gear. They're also pretty difficult to block effectively, because they're ridiculously flexible and often bend around a parrying or blocking weapon to still strike the target. But yeah, a bokken or shinai is definitely a better choice; there's a good reason kendo/kenjutsu protective equipment is so heavy and thorough. You can absolutely bust heads with those practice swords.
Musashi heard u call it a training sword and said: hold my saki.....
Remember watching a video where a guy used a machete as home defense against his neighbor’s crazy ex. The assailant was deterred and in fact slapped aside the blade, knocking it out the machete out the man’s (seriously, the dude had a poor stance and grip). So like with firearms, a sword should be maintained, the owner well trained, and lethal. Cause even though no one (well rational) wants to take a life, one shouldn’t rely on the threat of violence for someone will answer the call.
On a side note, you should look up Sir Trude, first female knight of the SCA (the combat) who also whipped out a sword and scared away four would be muggers. (She was decently trained with a sword and was wearing chain mail armor. The Snappy one liner was just the icing.
There’s even a song about it called “I See Your Six”. The song is worth a listen.
Hilt strikes would be lethal regardless
If this home or self defense then the situation has been elevated to a point where your life is possibly in danger. I don't think it matters what they're thinking pull out a damn weapon.
Long swords in houses aren't very ideal because of the limited space of area. You might hit the sofa or wall or tv. I would think of a short sword or anything more than 12 inches to 18 inches. In a scenario, do not provoke but hide & call authorities. If your cover is blown, it's too late because you're too close.
A Rapier, got it! THE THREE MUSKETEERS
We discussed this at my HEMA group and the immediate answer is that you'd get arrested for threatening a home intruder with a dangous weapon and would most likely have all your swords and more confiscated by the cops. Just use your fists!
Think it's too long to use effectively inside a building. With the blade cut short, might make a decent trench spike type of thing, or the guard alone as one heck of a brass knuckle?
I mean you could punch them with the guard. Thats been a tactic
At that point, a stick would be better because it already increases Bonking ability.
@@TheSteam02 nearly anything really. But compared to those dumb self defense magic sticks....a real stick, that saber... a wheel gun.
Sabre guards are aluminum....a punch to the face would collapse it.
Four Ruffians break into my house...
Interesting topic, for sure a fun one to think about, but I'll stick to my 12 gauge
To everyone saying get a gun: you are statistically more likely to use it on yourself than an intruder.
Unless you're living somewhere that's like, guaranteed to have dangerous intruders, it's probably not worth increasing your risk of death so much for a possibility which might not ever happen.
I mean, it's a risk you can take, but it's not this magic cure-all solution that everyone should do regardless of their situation.
Okay, back to the video topic: A video about how best to use that bokken against an intruder (differences from how you'd use the sharp steel version especially, should you still bother with edge alignment?) would be interesting and potentially quite useful to a decent portion of your audience who probably have one lying around.
In the USA… never bring a knife to a gun fight.
dude you got the cold steel training katana too?!
Pain compliance is a terrible strategy. Never rely solely on less than lethal force.
I tbh would prefer a bonk stik more
I’d say If ur just using it to scare them and you have something that can genuinely hurt them like a firearm or some other sword then it’s alrigjt
I mean, a bayonet even without a gun to attach it to, would be a scary weapon.
I completely disagree. What matters is your skill level. That fencing sword can easily kill an invader into your home if you have the skill to attack the proper points.
If it is at night do NOT turn on your lights. That puts YOU at a disadvantage. You should know how to move around your house at night without lights.
I see you're more of an edge weapon man. I prefer them too. They've always been scarier and more effective in close quarters than guns. You're also less likely to accidentally kill a family member.
If the break in is at night, I have to assume the attack is more dangerous than during the day, when most break ins happen. So they've already escalated.
So, in the dark, with my sword i am going center of the belly. They are going to move, so unless you're very skilled, aiming for the head or neck is risky. But the belly is good for those who've never been blooded.
If they try to avoid, they run the risk of offering their spleen and kidney or the liver, kidney aorta and vena cava. If they don't turn, you can pierce their intestines, possibly stomach and heart if you angle up.
No matter what you hit, they are going to try to get away. And assuming they can make it, they're going to the hospital. Or they dīe. So, even if they get away, it's easier for cops to find them.
Happy hunting!
Jeff! ❤
I'd take a shinai over any of the fencing swords.
Longsword Feder go brrrrt
@@fencingleprechaun might actually kill the guy
Hold it from the other end and use it like a flail
If there is a bad guy threatening, he has ALREADY escalated the former normal situation! If you, the defender, sees no option but to face this sudden threat, you are JUSTIFIED to use whatever means to defend yourself! Of course, it all depends what type of weapon he has, but keep this in mind: bad guys are not looking for a FIGHT, they are looking for VICTIMS!!! If you put up a good fight they won't think you're worth it; have you seen vids of smaller animals standing up to predators in the wild? Same principle.
I have a katana, a rapier, and a falchion and a bokken. Not to mention the 38 in a drawer and a 22 in my bag 😂😂😂
Excellent point on escalation to many gloss over.
Same logic as using a non gun that looks like a real gun. Not a great idea, cuz now they think u have just pulled a gun and will respond accordingly. Never try to scare someone attacking u away by trying to trick them into having a more dangerous weapon than u have. Cuz they might ACTUALLY have a weapon to match what they think u have.
Buy a machete, they’re light, agile, flexible and very good in close quarters
12 gauge works pretty well though
So 1796 light cavalry model it is!
nah fr tho? i'm gonna have a greatsword and full plate (i'll most likely already be suited up) nothing more intimidating than seeing someone dressed in full plate armor and a greatsword ready to end you breaking in
If they get past the dogs, its not my sword collection they should worry about.
It works
You’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel with answering this question that no one was wondering
I have. 3 ft tall axe for anyone who breaks in.. intimidation factor is more than enough from that.
Lol a blunt sword. I think they should bring back the real rapiers.
I myself use the Yamato for home defense
I mean with the fencing sword, you might find someone like me, insane and doesnt really... Do the whole.. feeling pain thing
A basket on a sword, would that thing work as a brass knuckle?
Sword brass knuckles #history #weapons #martialarts #fight #selfdefense #blade
Remove cap, sharpen tip, now it will kill.
bullets, the simultaneous escalation and deescalation
My home is defended by mossberg colt and ruger
Depends on how much space you have in doors
a real sabre however
So don't bring a fencing saber to a rapier fight?
I use katana. Until I can get my rifle not swinging it just side of bed to stab stab.
TLDR: don't let your morality write a check your @$$ can't cash, get real weapon
Lol oh! It wasn't until you showed that it's not an actual sword that I understood
Its best not to rivet an attacker to your weapon and self.
I prefer using a chainsaw
Wait, aren't you the guy who also used to say firearms are too much for personal protection?
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but sounds like you're advocating for a defence weapon that can match escalation to begin deescalation. Like a gun.
Or go beyond a fencing saber and go for a real melee weapon that actually backs up the escalation.
I'm 100% certain I've never said firearms are too much for personal protection.
I've said that they're not ideal for 100% of the global population! But that's a tiny bit different.
@@MarcusVance as I said I very well could have been mistaken, haha.
My wife and I are disabled and have lived all around NY, commuting to Manhattan by train. I've always been a firm believer that firearms make all men tall.
Hope I didn't come off as condescending, the other reply makes me feel like it has. I enjoy the content, alongside hoping for a day that we are all made equal as possible.
My best to ya, mate.
Home de-fence
Wait why have a sword that's not sharpen for home defense?
I own a katana for home defense, because unlike a fencing saber it can dismember an attacker
I still say use a cutlass
Ok but what if it was sharp
I prefer an axe. Imagine when you broke into someone home and see a big guy wearing old-dirty t-shirt with an axe in his hands. Im gonna piss right there
Gun.
I carry a bayonet for self defense lol.
if I simply want to intimidate an intruder, without a fire arm. I'm thinking a bat with rebar lodged in it. the rustier the better.
Wouldn't the rusted rebar get you in trouble if the intruder survives since they will probably develop some kind of sickness from it? Because I think most courts would probably agree thats just overkill
kendo sword with a glock akimbo.
intimidate then blam
I mean....eye pokes.
Just get a gun for home defense.
Sincerely, someone who doesn’t like guns.
I really don't like "just get a gun." They are a significant investment in order to get to an ethical level of proficiency, and even then they are not a good fit for every situation.
Gun and sword is the best combination, 1, your functional against assailants with guns, 2, your dipped out like an 18th century officer, 3, you have options should someone close the distance on you
@@MarcusVance Agreed. But at the end of the day they’re the best force multiplier out there. I’m a woman who’s used a wheelchair from birth. I choose not to carry a gun for religious reasons, since I don’t believe my life is more valuable than anyone else’s. But for someone else in the same position, there’s not even going to be an intimidation factor if you’re wielding anything less.
@@MarcusVancejust get a shotgun, doesn't require much aiming so long as your vaguely pointing it in your targets direction and learning how to reload should be easy (tho odds are you most likely won't have to reload after the first shot or two)
I don't know if replies to specific people work, but don't "just get a shotgun and not worry about aim."
One of the first rules if guns is to know what's behind your target. If your entire plan is to just shoot in a general direction and hope, then you should not ethically have a gun.