Really good I hope your making $200,000 a year Your education and wisdom is that level of excellence in professional terms. Narcissism is the most powerful compelling force in our society. Example- the same who broke the law and murdered the Romanov family, are the same who made the tv show Dragnet , to show what happens to law breakers. Get it ? At this global stage, it’s difficult to imagine a God , however, God is needed and necessity is the mother of invention. Look up the definition of law and authority Extremely Narcissistic and God is Absent, they have power of attorney for an absent god If this is not global mass narcissism , what is ?
That is why I get upset about it openly in front of said person and ask them If they HAVE ever asked GOD for his real name? ITs in all of the readings about a personal relationship with GOD, and his Truerer name.
@@MegaCyberleader His name is Jesus Christ As said By no other name This is a spiritual war between human and non human entities that can and do take human form . It’s not my opinion nor desire that things are this way.
@@MeCynthiaAnn That’s good Tell him , I said happy birthday and new year However I’m mad about this tradition of elders and details it implies Tell him the pope is kissing the feet of isreali rabbi and business men in private sessions - tell him that Rothschilds is controlling the church Peter built and I’m mad about WW2 Now if kissing rings and feet is not narcissism I don’t know what is . Oh - they also have pope doing some strange pelvis thrusting on a Roman wall I think it’s an inside joke and mockery of him : Jesus and pope is only the representation for Christ So as you can imagine, this is very insulting and I wonder what his reaction would be? Thank you
My late husband claimed to be a Christian all his life. I only became a Christian halfway through our 30 year marriage. During his last couple years of being terminally ill he did everything he could think of to try to destroy my faith. It infuriated him that he couldn't. The harder he tried, just made me feel he was controlled by a demonic spirit. How could anyone be so horrible?
My God theory is we are all Good, not the God We are the image of a subprime being. We are all part Satan of course. Free will is the difference Using God against me A Catholic recovering. ❤😂🎉 Being kind and humble my works Kindness is my religion says the HHthe Dalai Lama
I have recently had to find this out the hard way in a pretty heartbreaking situation that's devastating to my life. Your comment is extremely helpful.
Narcissists not only abuse you physically, mentally and emotionally, they also abuse their victims spiritually. Getting closer to God is getting away of the narcissists. You can't serve God while serving a narcissist.
My narc ex used to weaponize God against me whenever he felt like he wasn’t getting what he wanted. He’d always say that God doesn’t hear my prayers because I’m being disrespectful to him, when it was actually him disrespecting me. I was fearful of my husband so kept my mouth shut a lot and did whatever he wanted me to. It’s definitely a demon for sure that’s doing these things. I hope God delivers him one day. He had a good woman who prayed for him, loved him, took care of him, put up with all of his garbage….but I eventually reached my breaking point and left. These types of relationships kill!
when demonic influences get exposed things can get really nasty and UGLY! scripture says we don,t wrestle against flesh and blood...... it,s against spiritual wickedness power,s in high places... the word of God has to be used on these people.. it,s a bad influence
Wow if this isn't what I experienced if not more. And to add more injury my ex Narc would also often say it's "God's will" we "stay together" and if I leave something bad will happen to me and the Devil will have his way with me smh. So glad I'm out of that and praying for the divine healing for all of us that experienced that buffonnery and lies.
My father in law was the overt religious kind. He would never cheat on my mother in law but he verbally abused her and shamed her constantly. When his children became grown most of them left him. One of them told me she left because he would preach one thing and live another. He would say he wanted his daughters married, but yelled at them and called them prostitutes if they so much as talked to a member of the opposite sex. He would preach on love and how husbands and wives should love each other, but then he would shame his wife and degrade her constantly. When my sister in law(the scapegoat) got married he said that God would/could not bless her marriage(give her children) because she defied him(her father). Nine or so months after she was married she announced to the family that she was pregnant. Her sister(covert and enabler of their father) was afraid the baby would be deformed because of her disobedience to their father, but the baby was born perfect. My father in law had no more to say about her after that. The Almighty had proved him wrong and there was no more he could say.
@negy2570 No, some people have tried to get me to believe this, but I don't. I have always tried to do what was right, and I have had a set of twins stillborn and a baby with a unilateral cleft palate(a few years after this story). I believe babies can be born defomed if the mother and/or father does drugs, or(more often) just because this is a fallen world with a mixture of good and evil. If it was the way God created it in the beginning, no one would be born with defects.
They use God and guilt, I grew up with this manipulation being dumped on me relentlessly! Imagine using the almighty to back up their abuse, when I think of it, it's even abuse towards God.
Thank you for such a helpful video. My MIL is a Christian narcissist. In fact the entire in-law family is super religious and narcissistic, superior and special all the way. I come from a different family background, which was a start of all the blames. When my side of family members got diagnosed with cancers, MIL said that it was because my family was under the control of Satan. She always felt and acted so superior and said she (and her family except me) was “specially chosen” and “specially loved” by God. She hurt me so much verbally and tried to control my husband. Husband had been in her control through his entire life, so he basically chose his mom over me and my child. And yet, every single sentence they spoke ended with god and Jesus. It made me so confused and doubtful. It took me years to finally realize that the god my in-laws relentlessly speak of is not the true god. So thankful that I realized the truth and did not turn away from the Savior.
The Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain. Only a narcissist can say "God told me" or "in the name of God" casually without extreme discomfort at the potential consequences of getting that wrong.
That's how you know the difference. Nothing is in alignment. All confusion. Agents of chaos. Very comfortable with lying. Nonstop lying. Whore behavior.
@@roxanadaciana1991 Oh the irony as God heard her say that. God gives life to everything and He is the one to whom the spirit returns. God hates boastful pride and killing of the innocent. She shouldn't be surprised when awful things happen in her life, such a disease. She shouldn't take God's longsuffering and patience as a sign of weakness but it looks like she is.
Both of my parents were Christians during my whole life, but it was my father who had the true understanding of Him versus my mother who sometimes used it to shame and manipulate. I'm thankful I learned who He really is and don't serve her version of him.
@@amandachilds5290 If you are anointed with the holy spirit and have the gift of discernment. I have my son has it. I see a lot of cold, prideful and arrogant, people in church, but there are people who truly follow Christ. I know to anyone that does not have the gift of discernment, they will be easily deceived.
Again, Danish Bashir, you have cracked this concept of narcissism! 😅😅😅You simply always know the right, and actually true, things to say. I salute you, sir 💐💐💐
I’ve told my kids that respect comes from trust and love. Those must be earned and treasured. If a person has earned your trust and love and treasure it then there can be mutual respect.
I respectfully disagree 🙏🏼 We show everyone respect including ourselves. If love was given freely instead of “earned,” the world would change. Trust needs to be earned. I learned that one the hard way. You shouldn’t have to do anything to earn respect, admiration maybe, but not respect. We should respect all life. Same as you shouldn’t have to do anything to deserve love, you already do. You already are.
My narc went to college to be a minister he ended up leaving. His grandfather was a preacher. He ended up taking philology so I think that's how he learned to be a better narcissist
My narcissist husband moved out and whenever he has tried to hoover me, he uses God to get to me.He told me not to let evil win and how it’s all a misunderstanding.omg when he was leaving he even said God showed you the fake FB account and I pray that He also showed you that I didn’t cheat and if he doesn’t I will lose my faith.Thank you for this video, it opened my eyes to how can a person stoop this low!
😮😢 Unbelievable. These people will stoop to anything to get their way. Like Dr. Clarke says, they become the next Billy Graham when you are leaving them.
I was told by an ex narc that walking into a church always made him extremely nauseous. I didn't know what that meant at the time, but now I know it is a sign of demonic oppression.
To be honest you're the best presenter when it comes to narcissist behavior, I have learnt a lot from you ever since I subscribed to your channel thumbs up 👍
This plays perfectly into personal revelation in my faith. God “revealing” to the narcissist anything and everything they want in the name of God. How many people have been manipulated by a narcissist in the name of God?
I experienced most everything you discussed. Spiritual Covert Narc Mother was even more damaging than Malignant Narc Father. Evil deadly combination. Excellent video!
My narcissistic mother was highly religious, always sitting on the first bench at church, going early to church to read from her multiple prayer books, praying at home, extra kind to outsiders, etc. But she was a wretched person to her own children. She lied, cheated, stole, gas-lighted, etc, and when confronted, she would say things like, "after all I've done for you", "I love all my children equally", etc. Her true self was revealed once she died. Her bank books gave all her lies up. She stored treasures on earth, and none Above
Happy New Year Danish! This past year has been hell. Thank you for all your videos. They have helped me to leave someone so evil. I start the new year in a new place and in peace. It's only been 10 weeks and I am struggling between hating him and grieving having to leave my hometown and my life there. I moved over 200 miles away. I am doing the work on myself, learning to love myself and I need to give my self time. Happy New Year everyone!
Danish, if possible, whenever you get the chance, you've got to write a book about religious narcissists. Narcissists are highly attracted to religion. By the way, excellent and insightful video. Thanks for all you do Danish.
This explains my relationship with my husband who I now recently separated from my own mother and other family members and my relationship with my inlaws since I was 15 years old. Lord have mercy 🙏🏽 it's because of the grace of God I did not kill myself or lose my mind 🙏🏽
Same here. My narc and narc family used bible to make it like they were pure and holy but sneaky wickedness was toxic as hell. They used the fake presence of God in their life to gaslight me.
I have experienced everything you say. Thank you for speaking the truth about these things. Something I've noticed (and been victimized because of) is the narcissist believing that he or she can control God or charm God in the same way they do people and they will never be held accountable by God.
just as a personal note, the intensity of the backlash from a narcissist when they use God as a way of trying to hurt you, it ranges anywhere from them looking completely silly and childish almost completely laughable, to it downright ruining your family levels of toxicity. God bless everyone, I wish you all well on your healing journey's and Happy New Year 2024!
A now former friend turned out to be a spiritual narcissist. I mentioned something about healing our shadow side in general, that everyone needs to do this to have a more pure walk with Spirit, this guy took what I said and quoted the ONE BOOK he read on spirituality 40 years before (he was 76), and then used that and also the fact that I told him that I communicate with Divine after reading the series Conversations with God by Neil Donald Walsh and he weaponized all of that against me with a 2 page email berating and belittling me, calling me a "know it all" (even though I would always phrase things like "as far as I know" or "at my current level of understanding this is the way I think things are", etc.), and also he called me other names and he said, " What you don't really know is that, you see, God sent me here to be your spiritual teacher!" After he spent two pages completely abusing me. But he only had the one book he could quote LOL spiritual what? Spiritual how? (Meanwhile I had put my spiritual knowledge in a podcast 1800+ hours or there in the public.. after attending mystery schools and reading hundreds of books.. sigh..😅) I was friends with this person for 17 years.. he kept that narcissist side hidden well until that email. My reply to him was, "WHATEVER!" And I never wrote to him again. He wrote me another probably scathng angry letter to me but I never even read it because I literally don't care anymore. I had to ghost him after that..
Just wait till they meet the real God they are in for a big surprise and it is not going to turn out very will. They deny God he will deny them and that's for eternity.
@@deltaradiance9034YeHoVaH God does apply Justice though because He is just. He cannot allow these evil things to continue to exist. One day, He will take care of all of it. This is why we need to turn to YHVH and repent, return to Him. He prefers compassion and mercy over punishment, but for those who choose willfully to be abusive and cruel, it can't continue, and that is where people need to realize He is good because He loves us and is not okay with others harming us or us harming others. The Torah is summed up in loving God, ourselves, and others in healthy ways that align with His commands. Religion abuse is real and keep people from knowing God.
After my narc ex finished AA in 6 weeks (yeah, it takes way longer than that), he told me that I needed to fix my relationship with God because I was the problem in our marriage, not him. Once I fixed my spiritual problem, then I could fix other relationships I had. He put himself on a pedastal and never once acknowledged his issues (alcoholism, Cheating, bullying, etc.). For you ladies going through what I did, run, don't walk, away. I've been over 20 years single and I've never been happier alone. The Lord is my focus and he provides me with everything I need.
I'm in recovery because of AA, the steps took a little over a year for me to walk through. Nothing counts but thoroughness and honesty. The steps taught me that I was the problem and to fix the problem I had to do the work on myself. It's been 14.5 years now and I'm still sober.
My mother became a Christian when they came to America, all she knew was the quran, she said I always thought God was a god of wrath and vengeance. I never knew he loved me until now.
LOL! Stop lying. Compare Jeremiah in the OT to anything in the Quran and tell me which is more psychotically violent. I suspect you have never read either book or have a mother from Pakistan who was Muslim. You are a narcissist because lying is a prominent trait amongst your kind. You people are not hard to spot.
I remember my mum coming to sit in front of me when i was praying.She just sat there and watched me.At that time i did not know what narcissism was.I was thinking she will find fault in my prayer.She sat there,stared at me,did not say one word,then a small crooked smile appeared from the corner of her mouth.This was over thirty years ago.I shudder when i think of it now.There so many red flags and i did not know how to read them.What you saying puts things into perspective for me.
I've wondered how Narcs could have a real relationship with God and so callously treat His servants. This makes a ton of sense. So their god is also an extension of themselves. My husband's god was the big policeman in the sky waiting to dole out punishment to the lawbreakers in our house. I lived in fear of that god. I even grew to hate him, because it didn't seem fair that he would bless my husband at my expense, leaving me guilt ridden for my resentments. That was over 30 years ago, and I've been holding on to the jealousy over God's blessing him with another marriage that suited him better than ours. Maybe I can finally let all that go, because I don't have to believe in his god anymore. Seeking God on my own has been a painful and lonely journey, but maybe now I can have the hope of finding true intimacy with Him.
My husband was like this. I finally divorced and couldn't be happier. Two years ago he attended church with the kids and I in the morning and murdered his former best friend that evening. Of course he claims self defense. He writes letters to our children and talks on the phone from prison about how God will punish the unrighteous, will destroy the evil one. The whole time he is insinuating that I am the unrighteous, evil one! He uses verses out of context against me a lot.😮
Yes Danish, God is love and I know it was HE who made a way for me to come out of the hellish life I was living with a pastor narc. I am now free. "Whom the Son has set free is free indeed."
Never consider a Narcissistic - a toddlers. Their Mind is fully adult .They make plans as per adults. They are only toddlers by heart. That too a stubborn toddler not a good boy or good girl. Behave like an adult with them. For that- we will also have to be adults (I am also working on it) Treating them like toddlers will give you reasons to forgive them.
Thank you for making this video Danish. May we all heal from the narc scars soon. Not to mention but I would like to say that I am a Muslim and in my religion there is this concept that Allah loves you 70 times more than your mother, so this summer when my narc mother wanted to hit me and I was able to stop that by practically holding her hands many times, she after days started screaming Allah 's affection is like a mothers so if He(Allah) can make you go through trials, why cant I (My mother). That was really an eye opening moment for me, because she thinks she is a God like Real God and can punish us or put us through trials ( not to mention those trials are episodes of intense abuse at times like hitting, and she abuses us all the time by tiring us).
So much truth..... Threats to cast me from home & disown me as a child if i ever did (something) again, which parents found out about. It was terrifying, because i wouldn't have had anywhere to go. I was surrounded by very religious extended family of whom many were highly narcissistic. (father's side) *I learned it wasn't safe to FEEL* . I blocked all feelings which could cause the casting out. Then father wanted me to join a strict cultish church which didn't take for five years, fortunately. But meanwhile, parents sent me to small private high school, to ensure i would be trained to marry a man. Father again tried and finally got me into the cultish church which increased the mind control and i became very religious. (That church was run by narcs as well, and it was a horrible experience that almost broke my mind.) At that point, i believed the "supreme father figure" would do even worse than my birth parent if i allowed myself to feel what i'd been punished for as a child, and he'd b*rn me forever. Fear became my warden. Parents pushed me to "marry" someone and it was all fake, because i wasn't in love & didn't know the truth of who he was. It wouldn't have mattered to them, as long as i had the appearance of being a person whom they found acceptable. The person i became trapped with was dangerous and covert narc, and i was almost crippled by DV, was secretly poisoned for years, treated with cruel cunning, and in truth he wanted to be rid of me and isolated towards that purpose. In his mind, women who were harmed were to blame for what happened to them. Once we saw a documentary in which a woman was rped by four men, and he was declaring loudly & repeatedly that she had a "tramp stamp" on her back. (tatoo) This seemed to justify what had happened to the woman in his thinking. To the outside world, he looked like a very religious person, involved in politics & church. It took years and so much trauma, but i was helped by my own wonderful higher mind to get away! Now i'm spiritual & happy, undoing religious bondage, and believe in treating others with love as we want to be. Thank you for this video, it's much needed
This is the best talk yet. Thank you for re-affirming what I have already learned to be true with all of the Narcissist I have had to deal with in my life. They refuse to believe in God, and any show of religiosity that comes from them is a lie. To weaponize God against you is the only interest they have in God. The lengths they will go to, to try and convince you they are Holy is profound.
I can tell from personal experience that a narcissist is not a true believer in Christianity. Jesus said if you love me, obey my commandments. If a person behaves contradictory to the faith they claim to be apart apart of, that person is not a true follower. They are literally playing with eternal fire. Jesus would say "depart from me I never knew you." They have a false sense of God because they don't know the real God, but rather act like the devil himself.
The one i was involved with asked me to pray that we could get together when i was ill. Later i found out he was married to another woman who is religious. i can only imagine how he is using this to manipulate her and other women😒
Oh my goodness! You described it so well, this video gives me chills. Yes, they throw Bible verses at you to keep you under their control. "Honour your mother and father..." >no matter what they do
When I confront my narcissistic husband, he says things like, "we're all sinners. Why are you judging me"? But I'm merely correcting him and telling him what he's doing wrong. If I say I've never heard him apologize once in our 26 years of marriage, he says, "Apologize to you? Why should I apologize to YOU? I apologize to God! He knows my heart. My apology is between me and Him." My husband has formed God in his own image!
My ex-husband claimed that God told him to leave me for a woman he committed adultery with. When I called him out on it, stating that God would never go again against His Word and encourage sin, he accused me of being a narcissist, and that became his new narrative. He had a total meltdown when I asked him if he projected much. I was a captive in my marriage, but God set the captive free!
Omg I recently dated someone who was like this always posting scriptures but doing the complete opposite. Asking for nude vids and images devaluing women being a hypocrite yet acting he was so holy and better than people
It was ONLY after 58 years that what I've experienced my entire life was not ALL the fault of my deceased father but was fully cosigned by my (Sadistically) CATHOLIC mother since my Friday the 13th birth. As a Christian my Mother weaponized her Love to be "Other Than" GOD'S love for me.
True Sir...💯 My mom weaponize astrology !😢 She says as per astrology you have bad time now, your marriage will destroy, fail in your job, etc..😔 I wish everyone knew about this! Thank you for sharing this sir. God bless you ❤ Happy New year
I’ve been watching a lot of your videos and find them very helpful. My mother was a very evil narcissist, but I hardly knew it until after she died and I had time to be away from her (I was 60 when that happened) The question that keeps bothering me is, does a narcissist KNOW what they are doing and make conscious choices to be the way they are, or are they driven by something beyond themself, such as a mental illness, or even the demons you mentioned in a video I found fascinating. I really appreciate your taking the time to make these videos. They are helping me, and many others I’m sure.
Thank you so very much for thus video. You have cleared up so much about my relationship with my mother. Especially because I myself was a very spiritual child, so that my mother was really able to use God to justify her abuse of me. She presented herself as a great saint, who had a special relationship with Jesus Christ, that no one loved God as much as she did. As a result, my childhood was a nightmare! Worst of all, my relationship with God was also harmed, as she caused me to see God as totally supporting all her actions - specifically her abuse of me, because I was an evil child who needed to be punished. I struggled for many years to finally come to know God and His love for me. I could never figure out how someone like my mother, who claimed to love God so much, could be so cruel and abusive. Your video finally explains and sheds light on this dilemma with which I have struggled a lifetime. Thank you 🙏
Perfect examples even though painful. A narcissist will project their sinful thoughts and behaviors on you to guilt and shame you. They sabotage the relationship and when there is trouble or the relationship fails they can blame you for leaving.
My ex-husband who is an ex Jehovah Witness (he was thrown out years before we met) is a clinically diagnosed covert and malignant narcissist. Whenever he accused me of not listening to him, or whenever he accused me for not following his rules and DEMANDS, he actually said, that I am going against God and Gods rules, and not listening to God and Gods wishes. In other words, that TWISTED AF grandiose narc thought and believed of himself as a "God". It never worked, so I became enemy number one. He actuality told me that I was an eneny of God, and I should and need to be punished. We were only married 2 weeks when he first told me that and started his punishments. His punishments were so SEVERE, I developed C-PTSD in only 11 months before I left him. I am POSITIVE, that if i did not leave him, I would have died; either by his hands or the SEVERE and EXTREME stress I was in.
Mine did the same, he crossed a boundary one time and I called him out on it and his reply was "you have to honor me because I'm your dad, if it wasn't for me you wouldn't be here". He bought his diploma from a seminary and then bought his robes and priestly garments to wear as he pretends to be a pastor or some great religious leader. He's pathetic. He's 86 and isolates himself from me, doesn't return happy birthday texts or Merry Christmas texts, doesn't recognize me on my birthday or my sobriety milestones. About a month ago I asked him if I could come over to visit and he shot me down. This has been a struggle to come to terms with the rejection but it is what it is, I can't change him.😢
you did an amazing job explaining this. literally everything you said i have personally experienced to the t. i’m sorry you had to grow up with these types of parents also.
Good grief! That kind of baloney reminds me of my dad and his youngest sister. They will gossip about and judge other people in the family right and left. But, say one peep about the absolute garbage they get up to and they come down on you like a ton of bricks for "judging them".
He cried and washed my feet with his tears proclaiming, "I have given you a sign." On another occasion and in a rage, he told me that I was not following the counsel of Paul in the New Testament regarding wives.
My malignant religious narcissistic mother abused and reinvented God's words. When she is raging it's "God will distroy you blah blah blah" and when she gets what she wants it's "God bless you blah blah blah" accompanied with her laying her hand on your head. It always shivers me. Last year I started telling her don't bless me bless yourself. (Karma is hitting herself hard and she doesn't see it, I do. She says it's an ordeal against worldly people who are attacking her because she's God's child. Nah woman it's karma.) She laid her hand om my head. I told her I do not want her to do that anymore. She does this s* with my Golden Child brother every freaking time and he's addicted to it. Now she says I hate God. Please woman. I hate YOU.
I have a family member that used to pray over me while "speaking in tongues." The last time she did it, it was followed immediately by her scapegoating and bashing my mother. She repeated a negative story about my mom. She had told me this story before. But, now she was changing events in the story in order to put my mom in a more negative light. This made me not only question the story, but start questioning the spiritual state of the person telling it.How can someone go from " communing with God and His Holy Spirit" straight into slander and emotional abuse? I wouldn't let her pray over me anymore because her behavior had totally icked me out. Of course, being the malignant narc she is, her conclusion was that I was this evil child of the devil who was such a reprobate apostate that I objected to prayer. Oh my! How could a person possibly object to prayer 😂😂😂!
I live with my father, one of the biggest headed 'christian' narcs on the planet and he loves going to church to get his rocks off. Its spooky as fuck growing up with dr.jekyll in public and who knows what personality at home. Great piece dude. You are carrying a much needed torch rn.
He would blow cold if he saw me connecting with GOD. The narcissist I know came in my life bringing God and rushing me to church and then as soon as his abuse started and I said we need to go to church he said "God may not exist" and never went to church again, just only when he felt forced for a very important event like a wedding. I was really shocked. I tried to bring God as well literally just suggest that we pray together and out of no where in response he snapped and went into a full blown rage which made me have a big panic attack that if I had a panic room I would have ran to it. I also found out while he was saying lets go to church snd hanging up crosses in the house, he was entertaining women in bars and spending our money them. If you treat them how they treat you they will make it like you are laughable when turn to your god to make it stop. I notice he never acknowledge that evil exist or manipulation, he would stonewall when i would bring it up
My husband is covered in Jesus tattoos and scripture. That's how we first connected through our love of Jesus. As the years have gone on I don't know if he really knows Jesus. He has attacked my faith for years but it made me stronger. I know Jesus is the only One I can trust. He showed me my husband was narcissistic. A wolf in sheep's clothing. He calls me evil. Used praying and reading the Bible as another derailing attempt. I found him on Ashley Madison and he said if I believed what I saw on the phone then I can't believe in God. Like, excuse me? I've seen the demonic side when we are fighting. Once his rage is so great that there is no reaching him. It's terrifying. Thank you Jesus for Your Faithfulness. Yesss! Similar to your mother. He says "God strike me dead if I did that."
Wow, chilling. I was on the fence for years, thinking that I had to honor my mother. Now, I know that it's all about her. My respect means nothing. I haven't seen my mother in two years. I communicate via text. That's the best I can do. I pray that she is delivered from evil and that she finds peace.
They can become addicted to religion. My narcissist ex acted like he could never miss a Sunday without going to church. It's so weird. Then, he would say we all have to answer one day to God. That's not why you go to church. I go because I love God in my heart and want to worship him.
When NM would rage at Me for whatever reason. Then she would look up to the ceiling and shake her fist and say "When I get up there you're going to tell me why I was given her", meaning Me. That scared Me the most. She was always getting awards from her church becaused she donated so much money to it. Always had to have a church announcement
You bring me so much hope. Being in a relationship with a narcissist who thinks in the manner that you tell is very hard to live with. We have a young preteen daughter, and I hope and pray she doesn't turn out like him. I often talk with her about how hypocritical her father is and try to explain things more correctly in that regard. Unfortunately, we're both stuck in this till she's at the age where we can both exit without legal problems. I pray that she's nothing like him as an adult. She's got such a beautiful heart, and I definitely make the effort in communicating with her on the wrongs of her father. Thank you for your advice. Happy New Year to you as well ❤
FYI when my mother keeps pointing out things about my father, it sets me up to hate men and have no respect for them. No matter how narcy your husband is, you are teaching your daughter to talk behind her father's back and to have no respect for men.
@MissModernprincess I get your point, but I'm not telling her indirectly to hate men or her father. I'm simply pointing out things that she needs to know are wrong. I'm not perfect, and she knows this. The interesting thing you say about hating males is not how she is. Honestly, she has more male friends than females. I could go on about that, but I'll refrain. Children today see way more than they should and are more aware in ways that past generations were. Don't jump to conclusions. She needs to know the rights and the wrongs.
I am just sharing that my mom used to do that and still does, and I didn't even know I hated men, until later, it becomes an unconscious belief. Just wanted to share what I lived with my mom, but you don't need to listen to me.@@christinadaily185
My narc ex husband was a fairly well known religious leader in the community. He absolutely uses religion to do his dirty work. He looks like a perfect worshipper and leader on the outside, people flock to him for his advice and knowledge, yet what he does in private behind closed doors would suggest he’s the LEAST righteous person on earth. but no one knows that except the ones who are unfortunate enough to get stuck behind closed doors behind him. And almost no one believes anyone who tries to sound the alarm about him. I tried to, but I gave up. Not worth my safety and peace, I tried and got threatened and now it’s out of my hands. He would force me to do things clearly against our religion, that I desperately did NOT want to do. He’d tell me I’ll go to hell for not obeying him and that it’s okay because my husband is telling me to do it, even though I knew it wasn’t true. I wasn’t allowed to watch Netflix because it’s secular. Yet he’d sit all day and watch secular television, he said it’s okay for him since he’s stressed out. 🙄🙄🙄 That’s just one small tame example. For more serious harmful sins I would ask him, aren’t you afraid of punishment for this?? To try to get him to stop trying to make me do it. I feared God, but my narc ex did not care one bit. I’d be crying begging him to have some fear of God if he didn’t care about me. He nearly destroyed my faith, I’m so glad he didn’t succeed. Though I wonder and worry about all the women before and after me, I hope they all okay and still holding onto faith 🥺
This is so true. My ex would use my faith to manipulate me throughout our relationship. Early on in our relationship, she dropped the “L” word and I told her that we should take it slow, since we’d only been dating three weeks at that point. She came at me a few days later and claimed “This is something that God put on my heart! I can’t be wrong about this!” And after that, she would always come at me and say things like “God said this” or “God said that” to get me to do things. I found out through a mutual friend that she had left Christianity shortly after we broke up. That told me everything I needed to know.
My late husband was a malignant narcissist. He had me in an all encompassing trauma bond. He told me he was wanting to go to Tenn. to see an old HS buddy from Italy (where he went to high school..Navy brat)He said he and 4 others were going to meet up because Tommy was dying of cancer. His wish was to see his HS Football buddies one last time. He had my complete trust. I made all of the arrangements. He was gone for a week and the stories he told were very true sounding. He got home and we went on about our way. 32 years of marriage at that point. Then one day he said I need to tell you something. I sat down and he said this is the most devious thing I've ever done. Ok.. He said the trip was all a lie. There was no Tommy, no cancer, no reunion, that he had gone to Tenn. to see a woman. He said other stuff but then said GOD told him to tell me. He had gotten clean away with it. I never would have known, but for the fact he HAD gotten away with. IE:No glory. I said NO! You cannot say God told you to tell me. The God I worship wouldn't tell you to destroy me. He said he never loved me. Much, much more. So that night I took about 35 Xanax, got into my favorite night clothes, and said leave me alone I want to go to sleep. I guess at some point he realized I was in bad shape and call 911. I woke up on life support 3 days later lashed to a bed in ICU. God did not want me to go because of that liar I guess.
When my ex walked out on me and three kids, he turned himself into a guru. He created a following, changed his name, and actually changed his religion three times. He was suddenly a musician and joined a spiritual band. He just wanted people to see him, adore him and see him as highly enlightened. He told me the spirits told him to walk out on us. It was creepy as heck!!
Loads of narcs in seminaries and religious universities. Loads of narcs in the pulpit and religious leadership. Terrible thing. May we see through their rhetoric and avoid them at every turn. Stay safe, dear people.
Wow, I just prayed for an answer on how to deal with my mother who too uses religion to control and manipulate. Now I know the God I worship is the true God, and he does not want me to be controlled and manipulated by my mother. Your video was the answer to my prayers. Thank you so very much this message, as it has given me peace. God bless you.
I‘ve once heard that narcissists are most common to find in positions like bosses, senior physicians and PREACHERS/PREASTS!!! Makes sense since these are all positions of power that make it easy to control people😕
You just blew my mind with this. It answered a question that I wanted answered so much. Thank you so much you're helping me get through an extremely recent break up with a narcissistic person.
Dear Danish, thank you for this. My family is not religiously strict and I've had numerous mystical experiences (and know god/dess as love), so I was surprised when in this energy healing of mine I'd heard frightened, "God will punish me!" ... a part of it is the dogma of heaven and hell in Christianity, but bigger part is that, when I'd confront my mum as a kid, and then accidentally bumped into sth, she'd always say, "You see, god's punishment!" ... Also, her special, secret (ah, so special that she can't say a word about it!) relationship with god gets on my nerves.
And I had already been wondering, after countless times of being emotionally abused, stating that such behavior is not favored by God and that there is justice, he just grinned evilly and said: 'Do you think God works for you and only listens to you?' I truly began to believe at some point that I was the narcissist, especially after you shared what your narcissistic mother had said and how she behaved. His mother and what I call her monster-in-law had a martyrdom attitude; she had no fear of death, believing herselve to be such wonderful woman with nothing to fear.
Happy New Year Danish. A beautiful perfect message! My Catholic mother with Munchhaussens was just like this. I would hear her say in Machiavellian form" not my will but thine be done" and still keep smoking when my brother has lung disease. Using Jesus as fodder.
Link to my best resources for healing:
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Really good
I hope your making $200,000 a year
Your education and wisdom is that level of excellence in professional terms.
Narcissism is the most powerful compelling force in our society.
Example- the same who broke the law and murdered the Romanov family, are the same who made the tv show Dragnet , to show what happens to law breakers.
Get it ?
At this global stage, it’s difficult to imagine a God , however, God is needed and necessity is the mother of invention.
Look up the definition of law and authority
Extremely Narcissistic and God is Absent, they have power of attorney for an absent god
If this is not global mass narcissism , what is ?
That is why I get upset about it openly in front of said person and ask them If they HAVE ever asked GOD for his real name? ITs in all of the readings about a personal relationship with GOD, and his Truerer name.
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His name is Jesus Christ
As said
By no other name
This is a spiritual war between human and non human entities that can and do take human form .
It’s not my opinion nor desire that things are this way.
I love Jesus Christ so much
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That’s good
Tell him , I said happy birthday and new year
However I’m mad about this tradition of elders and details it implies
Tell him the pope is kissing the feet of isreali rabbi and business men in private sessions - tell him that Rothschilds is controlling the church Peter built and I’m mad about WW2
Now if kissing rings and feet is not narcissism I don’t know what is .
Oh - they also have pope doing some strange pelvis thrusting on a Roman wall
I think it’s an inside joke and mockery of him : Jesus and pope is only the representation for Christ
So as you can imagine, this is very insulting and I wonder what his reaction would be?
Thank you
They always say "it's in the past" that's the narcs favorite thing to say instead of repenting and taking accountability.
For themselves, ABSOLUTELY has it been in the past! It's never in the past though when they trying to guilt trip you! 😂
My late husband claimed to be a Christian all his life. I only became a Christian halfway through our 30 year marriage. During his last couple years of being terminally ill he did everything he could think of to try to destroy my faith. It infuriated him that he couldn't. The harder he tried, just made me feel he was controlled by a demonic spirit. How could anyone be so horrible?
My God theory is we are all Good, not the God
We are the image of a subprime being.
We are all part Satan of course.
Free will is the difference
Using God against me
A Catholic recovering.
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Being kind and humble my works
Kindness is my religion says the HHthe Dalai Lama
Narcs LOVE the thrill of using, controlling, manipulating and discarding people. To me, they are predators.
Rubbish @@lindalou4858
Just like my late father. Been asking for many years how a father could be this cruel to their own child. Only those who are possessed by evil
He wasn’t a Christian
"For the Narcissists, GOD is nothing but an enabler/an extension of their false self."
Perfect definition, thank you soo much!
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I Agree 💯 !!!!!!!!!!
I have recently had to find this out the hard way in a pretty heartbreaking situation that's devastating to my life.
Your comment is extremely helpful.
Narcissists not only abuse you physically, mentally and emotionally, they also abuse their victims spiritually.
Getting closer to God is getting away of the narcissists. You can't serve God while serving a narcissist.
You can not serve God while serving a narcissist 🎯
Which country you live@@szedrielxo967
U cannot serve 2 master.. But i choose my GOD who deserves my praise and worship...
@@shirleybasilio7502 are u christian
Whew child! I learned the hard way.
Of all the things I have learned about the narcissist, this may be the most disturbing. And, it confirms my experience.
My narc ex used to weaponize God against me whenever he felt like he wasn’t getting what he wanted. He’d always say that God doesn’t hear my prayers because I’m being disrespectful to him, when it was actually him disrespecting me. I was fearful of my husband so kept my mouth shut a lot and did whatever he wanted me to. It’s definitely a demon for sure that’s doing these things. I hope God delivers him one day. He had a good woman who prayed for him, loved him, took care of him, put up with all of his garbage….but I eventually reached my breaking point and left. These types of relationships kill!
God delivered you from him. Praise God!!
when demonic influences get exposed things can get really nasty and UGLY! scripture says we don,t wrestle against flesh and blood...... it,s against spiritual wickedness power,s in high places... the word of God has to be used on these people.. it,s a bad influence
I feel you, my ex narc also said the same thing
Wow this hit so much I feel like I wrote every word . I’m Happy the Lord delivered you
Wow if this isn't what I experienced if not more. And to add more injury my ex Narc would also often say it's "God's will" we "stay together" and if I leave something bad will happen to me and the Devil will have his way with me smh. So glad I'm out of that and praying for the divine healing for all of us that experienced that buffonnery and lies.
My father in law was the overt religious kind. He would never cheat on my mother in law but he verbally abused her and shamed her constantly. When his children became grown most of them left him. One of them told me she left because he would preach one thing and live another. He would say he wanted his daughters married, but yelled at them and called them prostitutes if they so much as talked to a member of the opposite sex. He would preach on love and how husbands and wives should love each other, but then he would shame his wife and degrade her constantly. When my sister in law(the scapegoat) got married he said that God would/could not bless her marriage(give her children) because she defied him(her father). Nine or so months after she was married she announced to the family that she was pregnant. Her sister(covert and enabler of their father) was afraid the baby would be deformed because of her disobedience to their father, but the baby was born perfect. My father in law had no more to say about her after that. The Almighty had proved him wrong and there was no more he could say.
How sad.
Do you believe 0:11 the babies born with defect Is due to their parents' disobedience?
@negy2570 No, some people have tried to get me to believe this, but I don't. I have always tried to do what was right, and I have had a set of twins stillborn and a baby with a unilateral cleft palate(a few years after this story). I believe babies can be born defomed if the mother and/or father does drugs, or(more often) just because this is a fallen world with a mixture of good and evil. If it was the way God created it in the beginning, no one would be born with defects.
He is an equivalent of the Pharisees, an adversary of the Christ.
They use God and guilt, I grew up with this manipulation being dumped on me relentlessly! Imagine using the almighty to back up their abuse, when I think of it, it's even abuse towards God.
Say that again👏🏼💯 abusing God’s kids is like abusing Him.
Thank you for such a helpful video. My MIL is a Christian narcissist. In fact the entire in-law family is super religious and narcissistic, superior and special all the way. I come from a different family background, which was a start of all the blames. When my side of family members got diagnosed with cancers, MIL said that it was because my family was under the control of Satan. She always felt and acted so superior and said she (and her family except me) was “specially chosen” and “specially loved” by God. She hurt me so much verbally and tried to control my husband. Husband had been in her control through his entire life, so he basically chose his mom over me and my child. And yet, every single sentence they spoke ended with god and Jesus. It made me so confused and doubtful. It took me years to finally realize that the god my in-laws relentlessly speak of is not the true god. So thankful that I realized the truth and did not turn away from the Savior.
The Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain. Only a narcissist can say "God told me" or "in the name of God" casually without extreme discomfort at the potential consequences of getting that wrong.
Praise God for you to overcome the religious trauma with the truth of GOD! It must've been really tough 😢
Same in my ex in-law's family. One of the brothers is a pastor.
This is the exact way I was abused, and reclaiming God from the matrix of narcissistic abuse has been utterly horrifying. I needed to hear this.
You are not alone on your journey. I'm trudging along in fits and starts, too. It's worth it
Ugh. Narcissists are such hypocrites. It's annoying.
I know right?!?!?! It's super annoying indeed!!!!
That's how you know the difference. Nothing is in alignment. All confusion. Agents of chaos. Very comfortable with lying. Nonstop lying. Whore behavior.
Yes!! The worst hypocrite I've Ever met!
Heard so many of these in my narc family, starting with curses , "God doesn't sleep" or "God will punish you" ... well, I hope the same for them !
X narc told me he hoped God strike me down 😅
@@JesuisLord They're horrible ! My narcissist mother strike me down for real while she was repeating "I gave you the life, I'll take it from you" ...
@@roxanadaciana1991 Oh the irony as God heard her say that. God gives life to everything and He is the one to whom the spirit returns. God hates boastful pride and killing of the innocent. She shouldn't be surprised when awful things happen in her life, such a disease. She shouldn't take God's longsuffering and patience as a sign of weakness but it looks like she is.
Those went over my head.
Both of my parents were Christians during my whole life, but it was my father who had the true understanding of Him versus my mother who sometimes used it to shame and manipulate. I'm thankful I learned who He really is and don't serve her version of him.
Yes, in the bible it says you will know them by their fruit. That's how I know who I am around.
@@love4christ-hi5ql same here
@@love4christ-hi5qlyes but communal and altruistic narcissists can be very convincing
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If you are anointed with the holy spirit and have the gift of discernment. I have my son has it. I see a lot of cold, prideful and arrogant, people in church, but there are people who truly follow Christ. I know to anyone that does not have the gift of discernment, they will be easily deceived.
Again, Danish Bashir, you have cracked this concept of narcissism! 😅😅😅You simply always know the right, and actually true, things to say. I salute you, sir 💐💐💐
" name it and claim it" epitomizes spiritual narcissism. It's pervasive in usa metastasized even to Africa. 4 real.
Yes my narcissistic mother told me “god was watching”. She didn’t know THE TRUE GOD JESUS
It's true that God is watching
I’ve told my kids that respect comes from trust and love. Those must be earned and treasured. If a person has earned your trust and love and treasure it then there can be mutual respect.
I respectfully disagree 🙏🏼
We show everyone respect including ourselves. If love was given freely instead of “earned,” the world would change.
Trust needs to be earned. I learned that one the hard way.
You shouldn’t have to do anything to earn respect, admiration maybe, but not respect. We should respect all life.
Same as you shouldn’t have to do anything to deserve love, you already do. You already are.
My narc went to college to be a minister he ended up leaving. His grandfather was a preacher. He ended up taking philology so I think that's how he learned to be a better narcissist
😂😂😂 so he can lord others with his supreme intelligence.
Wow
And he's a famous country star ⭐
My narcissist husband moved out and whenever he has tried to hoover me, he uses God to get to me.He told me not to let evil win and how it’s all a misunderstanding.omg when he was leaving he even said God showed you the fake FB account and I pray that He also showed you that I didn’t cheat and if he doesn’t I will lose my faith.Thank you for this video, it opened my eyes to how can a person stoop this low!
😮😢 Unbelievable. These people will stoop to anything to get their way.
Like Dr. Clarke says, they become the next Billy Graham when you are leaving them.
The devil is a liar.
I was told by an ex narc that walking into a church always made him extremely nauseous. I didn't know what that meant at the time, but now I know it is a sign of demonic oppression.
I had the same experience with a narc nearly gf, but this was a red flag (among many) that led me to stop the development of the relationship.
A lot of people feel nauseous in churches especially when crowded. Not a reliable sign of possession.
I stand by what I said. Aversion to that which is Holy is a sign. He was an evil man.
@@melissacaunarreaux9119 yes
I got sick walking into a Catholic church because of all the idols. Never again! I worship God in Spirit and truth. No idols for me
To be honest you're the best presenter when it comes to narcissist behavior, I have learnt a lot from you ever since I subscribed to your channel thumbs up 👍
This plays perfectly into personal revelation in my faith. God “revealing” to the narcissist anything and everything they want in the name of God. How many people have been manipulated by a narcissist in the name of God?
I experienced most everything you discussed. Spiritual Covert Narc Mother was even more damaging than Malignant Narc Father. Evil deadly combination. Excellent video!
I'm going through that experience right now. I know the misery and agony fellow survivor.
My narcissistic mother was highly religious, always sitting on the first bench at church, going early to church to read from her multiple prayer books, praying at home, extra kind to outsiders, etc. But she was a wretched person to her own children. She lied, cheated, stole, gas-lighted, etc, and when confronted, she would say things like, "after all I've done for you", "I love all my children equally", etc.
Her true self was revealed once she died. Her bank books gave all her lies up.
She stored treasures on earth, and none Above
Happy New Year Danish! This past year has been hell. Thank you for all your videos. They have helped me to leave someone so evil. I start the new year in a new place and in peace. It's only been 10 weeks and I am struggling between hating him and grieving having to leave my hometown and my life there. I moved over 200 miles away. I am doing the work on myself, learning to love myself and I need to give my self time. Happy New Year everyone!
This is the year of break throughs not break downs ❤
@@mobilemandy8495 yes this!
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Danish, if possible, whenever you get the chance, you've got to write a book about religious narcissists. Narcissists are highly attracted to religion. By the way, excellent and insightful video. Thanks for all you do Danish.
Very true! They are drawn to it because of power.
Eye - opening. My narc fasts for 40 days, extremely religious and yet a narc
This explains my relationship with my husband who I now recently separated from my own mother and other family members and my relationship with my inlaws since I was 15 years old. Lord have mercy 🙏🏽 it's because of the grace of God I did not kill myself or lose my mind 🙏🏽
Same here. My narc and narc family used bible to make it like they were pure and holy but sneaky wickedness was toxic as hell. They used the fake presence of God in their life to gaslight me.
I have experienced everything you say. Thank you for speaking the truth about these things. Something I've noticed (and been victimized because of) is the narcissist believing that he or she can control God or charm God in the same way they do people and they will never be held accountable by God.
just as a personal note, the intensity of the backlash from a narcissist when they use God as a way of trying to hurt you, it ranges anywhere from them looking completely silly and childish almost completely laughable, to it downright ruining your family levels of toxicity. God bless everyone, I wish you all well on your healing journey's and Happy New Year 2024!
There Is Absolutely
No One And Nothing That Can Keep You From God Unless You Allow It ! ✝️🌿
A now former friend turned out to be a spiritual narcissist. I mentioned something about healing our shadow side in general, that everyone needs to do this to have a more pure walk with Spirit, this guy took what I said and quoted the ONE BOOK he read on spirituality 40 years before (he was 76), and then used that and also the fact that I told him that I communicate with Divine after reading the series Conversations with God by Neil Donald Walsh and he weaponized all of that against me with a 2 page email berating and belittling me, calling me a "know it all" (even though I would always phrase things like "as far as I know" or "at my current level of understanding this is the way I think things are", etc.), and also he called me other names and he said, " What you don't really know is that, you see, God sent me here to be your spiritual teacher!" After he spent two pages completely abusing me. But he only had the one book he could quote LOL spiritual what? Spiritual how?
(Meanwhile I had put my spiritual knowledge in a podcast 1800+ hours or there in the public.. after attending mystery schools and reading hundreds of books.. sigh..😅)
I was friends with this person for 17 years.. he kept that narcissist side hidden well until that email. My reply to him was, "WHATEVER!"
And I never wrote to him again. He wrote me another probably scathng angry letter to me but I never even read it because I literally don't care anymore. I had to ghost him after that..
Just wait till they meet the real God they are in for a big surprise and it is not going to turn out very will. They deny God he will deny them and that's for eternity.
May Almighty punsih them❗
Like I say apathy is when you know you re free.
@@justreviewedForYouThat's the fake God. The real God doesn't punish anyone.
@@deltaradiance9034YeHoVaH God does apply Justice though because He is just. He cannot allow these evil things to continue to exist. One day, He will take care of all of it. This is why we need to turn to YHVH and repent, return to Him. He prefers compassion and mercy over punishment, but for those who choose willfully to be abusive and cruel, it can't continue, and that is where people need to realize He is good because He loves us and is not okay with others harming us or us harming others. The Torah is summed up in loving God, ourselves, and others in healthy ways that align with His commands. Religion abuse is real and keep people from knowing God.
After my narc ex finished AA in 6 weeks (yeah, it takes way longer than that), he told me that I needed to fix my relationship with God because I was the problem in our marriage, not him. Once I fixed my spiritual problem, then I could fix other relationships I had. He put himself on a pedastal and never once acknowledged his issues (alcoholism, Cheating, bullying, etc.). For you ladies going through what I did, run, don't walk, away. I've been over 20 years single and I've never been happier alone. The Lord is my focus and he provides me with everything I need.
I'm in recovery because of AA, the steps took a little over a year for me to walk through. Nothing counts but thoroughness and honesty.
The steps taught me that I was the problem and to fix the problem I had to do the work on myself.
It's been 14.5 years now and I'm still sober.
My mother became a Christian when they came to America, all she knew was the quran, she said I always thought God was a god of wrath and vengeance. I never knew he loved me until now.
LOL! Stop lying. Compare Jeremiah in the OT to anything in the Quran and tell me which is more psychotically violent. I suspect you have never read either book or have a mother from Pakistan who was Muslim. You are a narcissist because lying is a prominent trait amongst your kind. You people are not hard to spot.
i am a child of God, above all else.
I remember my mum coming to sit in front of me when i was praying.She just sat there and watched me.At that time i did not know what narcissism was.I was thinking she will find fault in my prayer.She sat there,stared at me,did not say one word,then a small crooked smile appeared from the corner of her mouth.This was over thirty years ago.I shudder when i think of it now.There so many red flags and i did not know how to read them.What you saying puts things into perspective for me.
I've wondered how Narcs could have a real relationship with God and so callously treat His servants. This makes a ton of sense. So their god is also an extension of themselves. My husband's god was the big policeman in the sky waiting to dole out punishment to the lawbreakers in our house. I lived in fear of that god. I even grew to hate him, because it didn't seem fair that he would bless my husband at my expense, leaving me guilt ridden for my resentments. That was over 30 years ago, and I've been holding on to the jealousy over God's blessing him with another marriage that suited him better than ours. Maybe I can finally let all that go, because I don't have to believe in his god anymore. Seeking God on my own has been a painful and lonely journey, but maybe now I can have the hope of finding true intimacy with Him.
Very very true. My ex always threatens me by relating everything with God.
From Gods lips to the narcs ears --- sure !
My husband was like this. I finally divorced and couldn't be happier.
Two years ago he attended church with the kids and I in the morning and murdered his former best friend that evening. Of course he claims self defense. He writes letters to our children and talks on the phone from prison about how God will punish the unrighteous, will destroy the evil one. The whole time he is insinuating that I am the unrighteous, evil one! He uses verses out of context against me a lot.😮
Yes Danish, God is love and I know it was HE who made a way for me to come out of the hellish life I was living with a pastor narc. I am now free. "Whom the Son has set free is free indeed."
Never consider a Narcissistic - a toddlers. Their Mind is fully adult .They make plans as per adults. They are only toddlers by heart. That too a stubborn toddler not a good boy or good girl.
Behave like an adult with them. For that- we will also have to be adults (I am also working on it)
Treating them like toddlers will give you reasons to forgive them.
I recall my narcissist father-in-law pleaded out to God saying "why is this happening to me? Why am I dying." The narc was 87 years old.
Thank you for making this video Danish. May we all heal from the narc scars soon. Not to mention but I would like to say that I am a Muslim and in my religion there is this concept that Allah loves you 70 times more than your mother, so this summer when my narc mother wanted to hit me and I was able to stop that by practically holding her hands many times, she after days started screaming Allah 's affection is like a mothers so if He(Allah) can make you go through trials, why cant I (My mother). That was really an eye opening moment for me, because she thinks she is a God like Real God and can punish us or put us through trials ( not to mention those trials are episodes of intense abuse at times like hitting, and she abuses us all the time by tiring us).
From JANESVILLE, WISCONSIN USA
Thanks again so much for all your videos you put out.
God bless you ALWAYS.
❤🎉 Big amen to that brother Danish. And may the good Lord bless you for all that you do in the coming new year.😊
My narcissistic ex always uses unfortunate events as a warning sign from God to correct me..
So much truth..... Threats to cast me from home & disown me as a child if i ever did (something) again, which parents found out about. It was terrifying, because i wouldn't have had anywhere to go. I was surrounded by very religious extended family of whom many were highly narcissistic. (father's side)
*I learned it wasn't safe to FEEL* . I blocked all feelings which could cause the casting out.
Then father wanted me to join a strict cultish church which didn't take for five years, fortunately. But meanwhile, parents sent me to small private high school, to ensure i would be trained to marry a man.
Father again tried and finally got me into the cultish church which increased the mind control and i became very religious. (That church was run by narcs as well, and it was a horrible experience that almost broke my mind.) At that point, i believed the "supreme father figure" would do even worse than my birth parent if i allowed myself to feel what i'd been punished for as a child, and he'd b*rn me forever.
Fear became my warden.
Parents pushed me to "marry" someone and it was all fake, because i wasn't in love & didn't know the truth of who he was. It wouldn't have mattered to them, as long as i had the appearance of being a person whom they found acceptable.
The person i became trapped with was dangerous and covert narc, and i was almost crippled by DV, was secretly poisoned for years, treated with cruel cunning, and in truth he wanted to be rid of me and isolated towards that purpose.
In his mind, women who were harmed were to blame for what happened to them. Once we saw a documentary in which a woman was rped by four men, and he was declaring loudly & repeatedly that she had a "tramp stamp" on her back. (tatoo) This seemed to justify what had happened to the woman in his thinking. To the outside world, he looked like a very religious person, involved in politics & church.
It took years and so much trauma, but i was helped by my own wonderful higher mind to get away! Now i'm spiritual & happy, undoing religious bondage, and believe in treating others with love as we want to be.
Thank you for this video, it's much needed
This is the best talk yet. Thank you for re-affirming what I have already learned to be true with all of the Narcissist I have had to deal with in my life. They refuse to believe in God, and any show of religiosity that comes from them is a lie. To weaponize God against you is the only interest they have in God. The lengths they will go to, to try and convince you they are Holy is profound.
I feel like you grew up in my house. Thank you for your videos, they are helping me overcome a lifetime of trauma at the hands of my father.
I can tell from personal experience that a narcissist is not a true believer in Christianity. Jesus said if you love me, obey my commandments. If a person behaves contradictory to the faith they claim to be apart apart of, that person is not a true follower. They are literally playing with eternal fire. Jesus would say "depart from me I never knew you." They have a false sense of God because they don't know the real God, but rather act like the devil himself.
My thoughts entirely
That's one thing only God knows. Study the Book.
The one i was involved with asked me to pray that we could get together when i was ill. Later i found out he was married to another woman who is religious. i can only imagine how he is using this to manipulate her and other women😒
Oh my goodness! You described it so well, this video gives me chills. Yes, they throw Bible verses at you to keep you under their control.
"Honour your mother and father..." >no matter what they do
When I confront my narcissistic husband, he says things like, "we're all sinners. Why are you judging me"?
But I'm merely correcting him and telling him what he's doing wrong. If I say I've never heard him apologize once in our 26 years of marriage, he says, "Apologize to you? Why should I apologize to YOU? I apologize to God! He knows my heart. My apology is between me and Him."
My husband has formed God in his own image!
My ex-husband claimed that God told him to leave me for a woman he committed adultery with. When I called him out on it, stating that God would never go again against His Word and encourage sin, he accused me of being a narcissist, and that became his new narrative. He had a total meltdown when I asked him if he projected much. I was a captive in my marriage, but God set the captive free!
I'm glad you got free.
Omg I recently dated someone who was like this always posting scriptures but doing the complete opposite. Asking for nude vids and images devaluing women being a hypocrite yet acting he was so holy and better than people
It was ONLY after 58 years that what I've experienced my entire life was not ALL the fault of my deceased father but was fully cosigned by my (Sadistically) CATHOLIC mother since my Friday the 13th birth.
As a Christian my Mother weaponized her Love to be "Other Than" GOD'S love for me.
True Sir...💯
My mom weaponize astrology !😢
She says as per astrology you have bad time now, your marriage will destroy, fail in your job, etc..😔
I wish everyone knew about this!
Thank you for sharing this sir.
God bless you ❤
Happy New year
I’ve been watching a lot of your videos and find them very helpful. My mother was a very evil narcissist, but I hardly knew it until after she died and I had time to be away from her (I was 60 when that happened)
The question that keeps bothering me is, does a narcissist KNOW what they are doing and make conscious choices to be the way they are, or are they driven by something beyond themself, such as a mental illness, or even the demons you mentioned in a video I found fascinating.
I really appreciate your taking the time to make these videos. They are helping me, and many others I’m sure.
They know it's wrong or they would do it in front of everyone.
Yes, the demonic is involved. That is why it seems as though they all have the same playbook.
Thank you so very much for thus video. You have cleared up so much about my relationship with my mother. Especially because I myself was a very spiritual child, so that my mother was really able to use God to justify her abuse of me. She presented herself as a great saint, who had a special relationship with Jesus Christ, that no one loved God as much as she did. As a result, my childhood was a nightmare! Worst of all, my relationship with God was also harmed, as she caused me to see God as totally supporting all her actions - specifically her abuse of me, because I was an evil child who needed to be punished. I struggled for many years to finally come to know God and His love for me. I could never figure out how someone like my mother, who claimed to love God so much, could be so cruel and abusive. Your video finally explains and sheds light on this dilemma with which I have struggled a lifetime. Thank you 🙏
Perfect examples even though painful. A narcissist will project their sinful thoughts and behaviors on you to guilt and shame you. They sabotage the relationship and when there is trouble or the relationship fails they can blame you for leaving.
My ex-husband who is an ex Jehovah Witness (he was thrown out years before we met) is a clinically diagnosed covert and malignant narcissist. Whenever he accused me of not listening to him, or whenever he accused me for not following his rules and DEMANDS, he actually said, that I am going against God and Gods rules, and not listening to God and Gods wishes. In other words, that TWISTED AF grandiose narc thought and believed of himself as a "God".
It never worked, so I became enemy number one. He actuality told me that I was an eneny of God, and I should and need to be punished. We were only married 2 weeks when he first told me that and started his punishments. His punishments were so SEVERE, I developed C-PTSD in only 11 months before I left him. I am POSITIVE, that if i did not leave him, I would have died; either by his hands or the SEVERE and EXTREME stress I was in.
My father used to scream at me “I command respect!” Hahaha. Imagine the biggest example of a hypocrite claiming that
Mine did the same, he crossed a boundary one time and I called him out on it and his reply was "you have to honor me because I'm your dad, if it wasn't for me you wouldn't be here".
He bought his diploma from a seminary and then bought his robes and priestly garments to wear as he pretends to be a pastor or some great religious leader. He's pathetic.
He's 86 and isolates himself from me, doesn't return happy birthday texts or Merry Christmas texts, doesn't recognize me on my birthday or my sobriety milestones. About a month ago I asked him if I could come over to visit and he shot me down. This has been a struggle to come to terms with the rejection but it is what it is, I can't change him.😢
Money and control are their god.
😮 im in total awe at this revelation. Suddenly everything clicks.
you did an amazing job explaining this. literally everything you said i have personally experienced to the t. i’m sorry you had to grow up with these types of parents also.
My narc mother's favorite line to use on me when she wouldn't accept accountability was " I'm good with God, that's what matters."
Good grief! That kind of baloney reminds me of my dad and his youngest sister. They will gossip about and judge other people in the family right and left. But, say one peep about the absolute garbage they get up to and they come down on you like a ton of bricks for "judging them".
"the devil can quote scripture." 👉 Tell that to a narc. 🤣
😂.. that's a good one!
He cried and washed my feet with his tears proclaiming, "I have given you a sign." On another occasion and in a rage, he told me that I was not following the counsel of Paul in the New Testament regarding wives.
Omgoodness 😮!! Guilt tripper
My malignant religious narcissistic mother abused and reinvented God's words. When she is raging it's "God will distroy you blah blah blah" and when she gets what she wants it's "God bless you blah blah blah" accompanied with her laying her hand on your head. It always shivers me. Last year I started telling her don't bless me bless yourself. (Karma is hitting herself hard and she doesn't see it, I do. She says it's an ordeal against worldly people who are attacking her because she's God's child. Nah woman it's karma.) She laid her hand om my head. I told her I do not want her to do that anymore. She does this s* with my Golden Child brother every freaking time and he's addicted to it. Now she says I hate God. Please woman. I hate YOU.
I have a family member that used to pray over me while "speaking in tongues."
The last time she did it, it was followed immediately by her scapegoating and bashing my mother. She repeated a negative story about my mom. She had told me this story before. But, now she was changing events in the story in order to put my mom in a more negative light. This made me not only question the story, but start questioning the spiritual state of the person telling it.How can someone go from " communing with God and His Holy Spirit" straight into slander and emotional abuse?
I wouldn't let her pray over me anymore because her behavior had totally icked me out. Of course, being the malignant narc she is, her conclusion was that I was this evil child of the devil who was such a reprobate apostate that I objected to prayer. Oh my! How could a person possibly object to prayer 😂😂😂!
How dare you mocking God he said to me.They think they are gods.Thank you so much Danish
I live with my father, one of the biggest headed 'christian' narcs on the planet and he loves going to church to get his rocks off. Its spooky as fuck growing up with dr.jekyll in public and who knows what personality at home. Great piece dude. You are carrying a much needed torch rn.
⚡👍👍👍you are so absolutely correct about this 👍👍👍⚡
My narcissist ex husband would ONLY be Christian at Church. Complete hypocrite.
He would blow cold if he saw me connecting with GOD. The narcissist I know came in my life bringing God and rushing me to church and then as soon as his abuse started and I said we need to go to church he said "God may not exist" and never went to church again, just only when he felt forced for a very important event like a wedding. I was really shocked. I tried to bring God as well literally just suggest that we pray together and out of no where in response he snapped and went into a full blown rage which made me have a big panic attack that if I had a panic room I would have ran to it. I also found out while he was saying lets go to church snd hanging up crosses in the house, he was entertaining women in bars and spending our money them. If you treat them how they treat you they will make it like you are laughable when turn to your god to make it stop. I notice he never acknowledge that evil exist or manipulation, he would stonewall when i would bring it up
My husband is covered in Jesus tattoos and scripture. That's how we first connected through our love of Jesus. As the years have gone on I don't know if he really knows Jesus.
He has attacked my faith for years but it made me stronger. I know Jesus is the only One I can trust. He showed me my husband was narcissistic. A wolf in sheep's clothing. He calls me evil. Used praying and reading the Bible as another derailing attempt. I found him on Ashley Madison and he said if I believed what I saw on the phone then I can't believe in God. Like, excuse me? I've seen the demonic side when we are fighting. Once his rage is so great that there is no reaching him. It's terrifying. Thank you Jesus for Your Faithfulness.
Yesss! Similar to your mother. He says "God strike me dead if I did that."
Truth! My narcissistic father is this way and is obsessed with my being humbled because I’m not worshipping him like he is a deity.
Wow, chilling. I was on the fence for years, thinking that I had to honor my mother. Now, I know that it's all about her. My respect means nothing. I haven't seen my mother in two years. I communicate via text. That's the best I can do. I pray that she is delivered from evil and that she finds peace.
They can become addicted to religion. My narcissist ex acted like he could never miss a Sunday without going to church. It's so weird. Then, he would say we all have to answer one day to God. That's not why you go to church. I go because I love God in my heart and want to worship him.
You go to church a real one to study and learn. Theee s a few. You can worship driving or the woods.
The last part maam is virtue signaling. Go into a closet and pray where my Father hears you. Kjv
Oh wow! You just explained my mother! I never understood what was going on with all the contradictions until now! Thank you!
Not to be confused w romans 7. We all fall ....
Pure logic 👍 💯💯💯🧠🧠💯 keep sending more videos like this 💯🧠💪👏😎
When NM would rage at Me for whatever reason.
Then she would look up to the ceiling and shake her fist and say
"When I get up there you're going to tell me why I was given her", meaning Me.
That scared Me the most.
She was always getting awards from her church becaused she donated so much money to it.
Always had to have a church announcement
Just know there are a few remnant churches. Find one.
You bring me so much hope. Being in a relationship with a narcissist who thinks in the manner that you tell is very hard to live with. We have a young preteen daughter, and I hope and pray she doesn't turn out like him. I often talk with her about how hypocritical her father is and try to explain things more correctly in that regard. Unfortunately, we're both stuck in this till she's at the age where we can both exit without legal problems. I pray that she's nothing like him as an adult. She's got such a beautiful heart, and I definitely make the effort in communicating with her on the wrongs of her father. Thank you for your advice. Happy New Year to you as well ❤
FYI when my mother keeps pointing out things about my father, it sets me up to hate men and have no respect for them. No matter how narcy your husband is, you are teaching your daughter to talk behind her father's back and to have no respect for men.
@MissModernprincess I get your point, but I'm not telling her indirectly to hate men or her father. I'm simply pointing out things that she needs to know are wrong. I'm not perfect, and she knows this. The interesting thing you say about hating males is not how she is. Honestly, she has more male friends than females. I could go on about that, but I'll refrain. Children today see way more than they should and are more aware in ways that past generations were. Don't jump to conclusions. She needs to know the rights and the wrongs.
I am just sharing that my mom used to do that and still does, and I didn't even know I hated men, until later, it becomes an unconscious belief. Just wanted to share what I lived with my mom, but you don't need to listen to me.@@christinadaily185
My narc ex husband was a fairly well known religious leader in the community. He absolutely uses religion to do his dirty work. He looks like a perfect worshipper and leader on the outside, people flock to him for his advice and knowledge, yet what he does in private behind closed doors would suggest he’s the LEAST righteous person on earth. but no one knows that except the ones who are unfortunate enough to get stuck behind closed doors behind him. And almost no one believes anyone who tries to sound the alarm about him. I tried to, but I gave up. Not worth my safety and peace, I tried and got threatened and now it’s out of my hands.
He would force me to do things clearly against our religion, that I desperately did NOT want to do. He’d tell me I’ll go to hell for not obeying him and that it’s okay because my husband is telling me to do it, even though I knew it wasn’t true. I wasn’t allowed to watch Netflix because it’s secular. Yet he’d sit all day and watch secular television, he said it’s okay for him since he’s stressed out. 🙄🙄🙄 That’s just one small tame example. For more serious harmful sins I would ask him, aren’t you afraid of punishment for this?? To try to get him to stop trying to make me do it. I feared God, but my narc ex did not care one bit. I’d be crying begging him to have some fear of God if he didn’t care about me. He nearly destroyed my faith, I’m so glad he didn’t succeed. Though I wonder and worry about all the women before and after me, I hope they all okay and still holding onto faith 🥺
This is so true. My ex would use my faith to manipulate me throughout our relationship. Early on in our relationship, she dropped the “L” word and I told her that we should take it slow, since we’d only been dating three weeks at that point. She came at me a few days later and claimed “This is something that God put on my heart! I can’t be wrong about this!”
And after that, she would always come at me and say things like “God said this” or “God said that” to get me to do things. I found out through a mutual friend that she had left Christianity shortly after we broke up. That told me everything I needed to know.
My late husband was a malignant narcissist. He had me in an all encompassing trauma bond. He told me he was wanting to go to Tenn. to see an old HS buddy from Italy (where he went to high school..Navy brat)He said he and 4 others were going to meet up because Tommy was dying of cancer. His wish was to see his HS Football buddies one last time. He had my complete trust. I made all of the arrangements.
He was gone for a week and the stories he told were very true sounding. He got home and we went on about our way. 32 years of marriage at that point. Then one day he said I need to tell you something. I sat down and he said this is the most devious thing I've ever done. Ok.. He said the trip was all a lie. There was no Tommy, no cancer, no reunion, that he had gone to Tenn. to see a woman. He said other stuff but then said GOD told him to tell me. He had gotten clean away with it. I never would have known, but for the fact he HAD gotten away with. IE:No glory. I said NO! You cannot say God told you to tell me. The God I worship wouldn't tell you to destroy me. He said he never loved me. Much, much more. So that night I took about 35 Xanax, got into my favorite night clothes, and said leave me alone I want to go to sleep. I guess at some point he realized I was in bad shape and call 911. I woke up on life support 3 days later lashed to a bed in ICU. God did not want me to go because of that liar I guess.
When my ex walked out on me and three kids, he turned himself into a guru. He created a following, changed his name, and actually changed his religion three times. He was suddenly a musician and joined a spiritual band. He just wanted people to see him, adore him and see him as highly enlightened. He told me the spirits told him to walk out on us. It was creepy as heck!!
Loads of narcs in seminaries and religious universities. Loads of narcs in the pulpit and religious leadership.
Terrible thing. May we see through their rhetoric and avoid them at every turn. Stay safe, dear people.
Thumbs up 👍 regardless, Keep learning. Don't stay complacent in ignorance. Cheers ❤
Wow, I just prayed for an answer on how to deal with my mother who too uses religion to control and manipulate. Now I know the God I worship is the true God, and he does not want me to be controlled and manipulated by my mother. Your video was the answer to my prayers. Thank you so very much this message, as it has given me peace. God bless you.
Or controlled or manipulated by anyone.
I‘ve once heard that narcissists are most common to find in positions like bosses, senior physicians and PREACHERS/PREASTS!!! Makes sense since these are all positions of power that make it easy to control people😕
“May God strike me down right now!’
Supreme level of gaslighting.
Danish!! We had the same mother. Nice to meet you my brother. 🤣
You just blew my mind with this. It answered a question that I wanted answered so much. Thank you so much you're helping me get through an extremely recent break up with a narcissistic person.
Dear Danish, thank you for this. My family is not religiously strict and I've had numerous mystical experiences (and know god/dess as love), so I was surprised when in this energy healing of mine I'd heard frightened, "God will punish me!" ... a part of it is the dogma of heaven and hell in Christianity, but bigger part is that, when I'd confront my mum as a kid, and then accidentally bumped into sth, she'd always say, "You see, god's punishment!" ... Also, her special, secret (ah, so special that she can't say a word about it!) relationship with god gets on my nerves.
And I had already been wondering, after countless times of being emotionally abused, stating that such behavior is not favored by God and that there is justice, he just grinned evilly and said: 'Do you think God works for you and only listens to you?' I truly began to believe at some point that I was the narcissist, especially after you shared what your narcissistic mother had said and how she behaved. His mother and what I call her monster-in-law had a martyrdom attitude; she had no fear of death, believing herselve to be such wonderful woman with nothing to fear.
Like that episode of Firefly when Malcolm Reynolds said "There is no one more dangerous than a psychopath who thinks he's right with God."
Happy New Year Danish. A beautiful perfect message! My Catholic mother with Munchhaussens was just like this. I would hear her say in Machiavellian form" not my will but thine be done" and still keep smoking when my brother has lung disease. Using Jesus as fodder.
My mom used God to shame, guilt, control , threaten and even try to manifest curses on me and others. Spiritual abuse is so awful.
Thank you. A kind word after such toxic abuse still has the power to surprise me.
Inspirational what you have overcome and able to help others with awareness from your own expansion. Thank you
God help me I thought I was the only suffering for narcissist people Agape lord help me happy new year
This is reminder to decide how I view God instead of listening to someone else toxic view of God.