As cloak and Dagger main with 63 hours of playtime just on them I wanna give some tips, 1. When teammates get rooted by Groot even if u urself get rooted u can still use ur ult to get out of it and by doing that u also save whoever got rooted also. 2. U can bounce ur basic attacks to heal teammates so u don't even need line of sight and I can't tell u enough how much of a difference it makes. 3. When u get dived by whatever damage character please bubble yourself in a 1v1 u will never lose if u play right but u could also just go invisible if it doesn't go right and by the time this happens your teammates will be helping u (if their good xD). 4. U can evade Jeff's ult by doing ur ult at the same time so that means C&D has 2 ways to evade Jeff which the other is to just go invisible. Also u can just evade every single 1 shot ult or cc ult in the game by just going invisible. 5.This one is for the teammates If u know a C&D will go invisible next to u don't shot or do anything so u stay invisible to get saved. I evade so many ults its crazy but so many times I could have saved so many people but they decide to shot, and that's all I got, hope it was helpful. My main language is not english so if u see any errors sorry. (Edited) Also if u need heals but don't have bubble u can get close to allies and heal yourself also since basic attacks heals actually heal aoe , u can do this even if ur allies don't need healing. and u only get healing by hitting enemies when u are close to them because of what I said earlier.
i literally hate that it makes them come out of invis when they shoot, its not like the ability lasts 20000 seconds or something, i would rather it be hard invis than something that gets u out if you shoot
The biggest thing with cloak and dagger is using here bubble well and then of course your teammates actually using the bubble. Like people if you are fighting on the pojnt and i throw the bubble on you STAY IN IT cause the healing wall is coming too and im locked in on healing you to win the fight
@zerodgrsc exactly. Too many people play this game that don't have knowledge of how the other characters work amd such. They know nothing about positioning, target priorities, etc. They just pick a duelists and run in Leroy Jenkins style with the mentality that a healer is suppose to keep them alive while they play like an idiot
Cloak and Dagger got me to Plat 2. I dont stack Cloak and Dagger ult because teammates don't know how the characters ult work and they just run out of the mist so I try to use it everywhere 🤣
It's so annoying how many people step out of the ult or don't even know how it works at this point. It might also be a little confusing cause it just looks like purple shit on the ground, doesn't look like some blue healing effect like lunas ult which would obviously indicate healing
@mrscyz I would think seeing me just stand there and tank Punisher's ult would clue my team in, but no. They all actively avoid my heals then call me a bad healer.
@@mrscyz I think they need to visually add a light aura on the ult as well so people will know it heals. They also need to update the visual effect of daggers bubble. Alot of games I play, people can't tell if it Thor's bubble or daggers.
I dunno, the only tanks who ever give me trouble are Cap because of that damn sprint and Peni because of her web snare; Thor, Magneto, Venom, Hulk, Groot, I just blind them and melt away while keeping my distance. 9 times out of 10 Venom runs, but the others always try to outlast me and it doesn't work out well for them. Dr. Strange is usually the only one that can survive a 1 v. 1 against me, but he rarely does enough damage to kill me before someone else steps in.
@@fizzywhizzbanger5610 it's not about killing the tanks, it's about staying focused. Going after tanks takes time if they're full HP or about so. Valuable time in which a teammate could use healing. And if its a good tank, it would take even longer or you won't even get the kill, which is more time wasted. I only fight tanks if the whole team focusing them and no one needs healing atm. if they come for me alone, i fight back but with the view to escape and regroup while doing enough dmg to make them back off.
@@mosquitohunter8711 Generally, I should have another healer on my team; if they can't keep people alive for the second and a half it takes to destroy Thor, that's not my fault. I don't hunt tanks, but they always make the mistake of coming for me. If a tank dives, gets burned and backs off, that's not time wasted. Every second a tank spends fighting me when they could go after someone they might actually kill is a gift to my team. See, I understand it's a team based game, so I don't try to play it like I'm the main character, as so many DPS players do. Imagine thinking a support class fighting and not getting kills is a waste of time.
The only thing that needs changing is the dark dimension skill needs to hide and not break if someone shoots or reloads.. it could prevent shooting as a middle ground solution
Ngl I'm a cloak main and I'm always abt 50/50 but sometimes I'll be abt 70/30 so this is good advice I think it's situational depending on the team makeup and the other healers on your team
In your quest to DPS as Cloak and Dagger you lost your healing potential, you could have put down your healing bubble down to give healing while you switched to Cloak to damage effectively having the skills in cooldown while doing both . You actively shot tanks that take little ticks of damage while your team is running around looking for heals, your ult could be a zoning damage or a zoning sustain field no use zoning the middle of the map unless it’s overtime imo so I’d probably use that for sustain most of the time in fights
@HyienUnmistkble agreed. One of the best tricks with CandD to master is like you said. If you are going to damage burn your dagger abilities, get in your healing bubble as dagger, throw void wall, dps, invis out swap back into dagger
I think people overlook cloak and dagger because of mantis and Luna but she’s just as good. I think it’s really close on who’s the best strategist, which is a good thing, any combination of the those 3 is great, I personally think the best combination is mantis and cloak, the damage your teammates will be doing is crazy, mantis can buff teammates so they can do more damage and cloak can debuff multiple enemies so they take more damage, both happening at the same time just melts everything
White wall does healing on contact and boosts healing from all sources for a short duration. Purple wall near-sighted blinds enemies so they can't see past 10m in front of them and they also take bonus damage from all sources. Wolverine's damage is based on your max HP. He's a tank buster.
The getting self-healing from Daggers attacks you mention at 00:22 , you neglected to say why. Her heals are an AOE. You can see the blue ring from the aoe on the ground if you look carefully, it's even in this vid.
Thank you🎉 I was about to say bro only received healing when he walked into the faint, white AoE circle that appears on successful hits. The first few hits did no healing. Hope people don't think she's just a single target, pocket kind of strategist.
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I thought I heard Joji in the background at the beginning but now i'm certain once I heard "Your Man" at the end there. Great video!
auto aim, what do you mean? You have mostly great matchups because youre the strongest duellist character wearing a strategist symbol, you can even stall 6 people or bait ults at the same time while you are standing in your souce and you can even get away.
Cloack and dagger otp here i can say after playing them for 71 hours and reaching grandmaster they are indeed op, oh yea and a tip i didnt realize till i reahced high rank to switch faster between them use your mouse scroll its faster than shift was faster in game deciding situations
I feel like there is a few pointers I could suggest for you, this is a great video! If your dps need healing and it is only one try using your basic healing instead of the dome. I noticed you use the dome and put it on cooldown, then a few seconds later actually need the dome more for your tanks or groups of allies that are crit compared to a solo dps. I also feel like you are choosing who to dps at the wrong time. You are focusing tanks to dps when 1: multiple people needed healing at 5:30 when you were doing dmg as well as that you should honestly have not been dpsing Penni. She was ulting and you did not have support to follow your dmg, as well as her supports were still alive to keep her up. If you are going to dps you should look for a support first, then dps, then tank if you need to dps them. You also have been dpsing quite literally when it doesn't do anything, Luna ults and you decide to dps the whole team covered by her healing, and let your team die. Also Penni heals herself when she is standing on webs/ulting. Also throwing your healing dome slightly in front of your tanks lets them be more aggressive while getting healed. Also if you need to dps please switch to cloak he does significant more dmg than dagger by a lot pls only reason you should dps as dagger is if they are too far out of cloaks range to hit. Also when mantis sleeps your team there is a purple mantis behind teammates u can shoot to get them out of sleep quicker. Also for the love of everything if everyone is full and there isnt dmg to be done why are you wasting your ammo and will have to reload mid fight, which could cause you to get someone killed cause u cant heal. Sorry if this seems like a lot, but tbh I wanted to be helpful. Also cloak and daggers ult does 220 healing per line you draw, if you overlap your ult lines it goes up to 660 healing per second. Sometimes like another user said it would be better to keep your ult all in one place vs spreading it out.
Love your videos , man . Your streams are always entertaining to watch and your personality is amazing. I hope you grow as a channel fast ❤. Thank you for this guide. I am trying to pick them up but it's pretty hard to master
The most annoying thing playing C&D is people not using your bubble. I try to use it as a pushing tool and no one ever stays in it instead dps decide to run off by themselves getting ganked and tanks dance around it thinking they will be fine 😆
SAME! been stuck in gold 1 for 4 days now, Im learning different tanks to hopefully move on from Gold so far its been working but I rather play support.
@@fizzywhizzbanger5610 and also bans Arnt for children it’s a feature they made. You have to be strategic on who you ban based on how strong or annoying a character is. If you have support plays in a 6 stack that get dove a lot ban the main dive characters to help you supports live or maybe one of the up coming hero’s are op and hard to fight against then ban them it’s not for children it’s a strategy
Can u try do another mantis video, I've played mantis for a bit now but sometimes struggle on the healing aspect of her and my friends may or may not make fun of me for only having like 10k heals. I think I just play too aggressive cus i do normally get quite a few kills with her.
you talk about people not prioritizing pennis spider nest while you are using dagger shots on the full hp tank instead of debuffing and melting the sup... then talk about needing to do more dps and that working out well while you watch a team mate die to a Penni...the title talks about secret tech but are very new to the game, role, and character A lack of DPS is one of the biggest mistakes I see healers make. Can't heal dead, can't take damage if the enemies dead or running, and damage charges ults which most often cannot be out healed or out valued by healing.
best cake in the game, freakin dps never kills anks and traps, its crazy how people in silver and gold still over commit, never reset and stagger.. have they learn nothing from overwatch
I hate cloak and dagger. compared to other supports she feels lackluster, as a tank player in diamond. it feels like it takes her forever to get healed up by her unless she drops all her abilitys on you
Same with rocket, although in my experience cloak players seem yo be way more dos brained and less healing focused. When I c Vanguard I hope for Mantis and luna, but when I support I like cloak and dagger because she can change solo runs around in ways that other units aren't really able to imo
@@LoachAo so your using cloak and dagger because of survivability it makes sense but again I personally don't like them. I personal still like adem and Luna & Jeff just because of the burst heals it actually feels like you have time to do try to make a play vs other supports
@justachillgamer7698 Yeah, i see where you're coming from. When i play Vanguard I personally like luna and Mantis because one sustains you and maybe buffs you, and the other just pumps out crazy heals, plus they've both got cc. I should mention that my go-to vanguard is Captain America, so Jeff has a really hard time keeping the beam on me. A good cloak and dagger is great, though, as they have an aim assist on heals, so even the most spastic tanks can be healed easily. When I play support, I like Cloak because I have options if my dps aren't protecting me properly or if my tank is overextended.
5:29 this is a definition of a moira play 😂 you could have healed and saved him but the moira decided to boost their damage stats instead of winning the game 😂 anyway came across your channel and im absolutely in love, subscribed ❤❤
@ yeah but you don’t have to really aim and it’s long range. I feel like it’s even more aiming required with cloak and You gotta be kinda close with and you can’t 1v1
@@ZenYaga. it’s really easy to outheal. It’s good for pressuring enemies like fliers or enemies off of a position, but it won’t do much to enemies that aren’t already health or in addition to your teammates damage. Cloak does 75 damage + 20% with his veil, it’s good for when you’re brawling with your team
Peni parker is not a good counter to c&d, c&d is a good counter to peni parker. Bait her in a line then run your ult down the same path, wipes out her mines and any that are left you can cloak bait 👍🏼 Edit: not to mention, most of the time they will try to start their ult near the nest, so if you get backlines from their start when they are pushing forward you can kill the nest too then go back way back around to your team
Her ult doesnt destroy the minefield, you cant aim at her mines like scarlet witch which her auto aim does. And destroying the mine producing thing will most likely kill you because of how much health that thing has, i wouldnt waste a second of my ult doing that. Range Characters can counter that. Penny is one of the strongest picks holding a point period, as a somewhat melee ranged fighter, the matchup is rather even as long as you dont step on mines, the burst damage can easily kill anybody.
Yeah no you have to be very careful ulting into Peni’s mines or you’ll get 1-shot in the middle of your ult. My first few games I learned that the hard way
As someone who plays both Peni and C&D... only the scrubbiest of Peni players would ever fall for that bait. It's not even "knowing what a CD wants to do", it's just knowing basic Peni strats and not overextending.
@@__-fi6xglol you arent trying to destroy the minefield aka web, just the mines… you proc the mines by going over them… and didnt say to use ult on the nest, just for the mines. Cloak for nest… ez
@@ShangTheHomeless if 4 or 5 mines trigger at the same time, i think you would die. the ult doesnt make you invulnerable, it only heals you. high burst damage can still take you out
As cloak and Dagger main with 63 hours of playtime just on them I wanna give some tips,
1. When teammates get rooted by Groot even if u urself get rooted u can still use ur ult to get out of it and by doing that u also save whoever got rooted also.
2. U can bounce ur basic attacks to heal teammates so u don't even need line of sight and I can't tell u enough how much of a difference it makes.
3. When u get dived by whatever damage character please bubble yourself in a 1v1 u will never lose if u play right but u could also just go invisible if it doesn't go right and by the time this happens your teammates will be helping u (if their good xD).
4. U can evade Jeff's ult by doing ur ult at the same time so that means C&D has 2 ways to evade Jeff which the other is to just go invisible.
Also u can just evade every single 1 shot ult or cc ult in the game by just going invisible.
5.This one is for the teammates
If u know a C&D will go invisible next to u don't shot or do anything so u stay invisible to get saved. I evade so many ults its crazy but so many times I could have saved so many people but they decide to shot, and that's all I got, hope it was helpful.
My main language is not english so if u see any errors sorry.
(Edited) Also if u need heals but don't have bubble u can get close to allies and heal yourself also since basic attacks heals actually heal aoe , u can do this even if ur allies don't need healing.
and u only get healing by hitting enemies when u are close to them because of what I said earlier.
oh so that's why sometimes i only get 1 or two teammates with my right click, so when they shoot it cancels the shroud thing good to know
i literally hate that it makes them come out of invis when they shoot, its not like the ability lasts 20000 seconds or something, i would rather it be hard invis than something that gets u out if you shoot
@@saladmanperson OMGG I WAS THINKING IT WAS TIMING ERROR BUT THATS WHY. OML
and how the heck do u have SOO MANY HOURS ON JUST THEM ALREADY DO U PLAY LIKE 12 HOURS A DAY? drop ur rank pls and ty for the tips
This comment is a copy paste comment. I saw the exact comment a few days ago on another video.
The biggest thing with cloak and dagger is using here bubble well and then of course your teammates actually using the bubble. Like people if you are fighting on the pojnt and i throw the bubble on you STAY IN IT cause the healing wall is coming too and im locked in on healing you to win the fight
But our teammates are too dumb to realise that staying in the healing bubble while 1hp of better then running out to nowhere
@zerodgrsc exactly. Too many people play this game that don't have knowledge of how the other characters work amd such. They know nothing about positioning, target priorities, etc. They just pick a duelists and run in Leroy Jenkins style with the mentality that a healer is suppose to keep them alive while they play like an idiot
might be because thor bubble looks exactly the same
Yeah it's crazy how.many people straight up IGNORE her bubble allllll the time
Thank God im not alone with that Problem 😂😂😂🙈
Cloak and Dagger got me to Plat 2. I dont stack Cloak and Dagger ult because teammates don't know how the characters ult work and they just run out of the mist so I try to use it everywhere 🤣
I like to stack it on the objective then tank for a few seconds; so much fun making Punisher rage when I calmly sip tea while he unloads with his ult
I SWEAR, you try to save your tanks or something and they just run away from you while ulting towards them kek
It's so annoying how many people step out of the ult or don't even know how it works at this point. It might also be a little confusing cause it just looks like purple shit on the ground, doesn't look like some blue healing effect like lunas ult which would obviously indicate healing
@mrscyz I would think seeing me just stand there and tank Punisher's ult would clue my team in, but no. They all actively avoid my heals then call me a bad healer.
@@mrscyz I think they need to visually add a light aura on the ult as well so people will know it heals. They also need to update the visual effect of daggers bubble. Alot of games I play, people can't tell if it Thor's bubble or daggers.
Going after tanks with C&D is a waste of time..your most likely gonna die first or get jump trying to focus them
I dunno, the only tanks who ever give me trouble are Cap because of that damn sprint and Peni because of her web snare; Thor, Magneto, Venom, Hulk, Groot, I just blind them and melt away while keeping my distance. 9 times out of 10 Venom runs, but the others always try to outlast me and it doesn't work out well for them. Dr. Strange is usually the only one that can survive a 1 v. 1 against me, but he rarely does enough damage to kill me before someone else steps in.
@@fizzywhizzbanger5610 it's not about killing the tanks, it's about staying focused. Going after tanks takes time if they're full HP or about so. Valuable time in which a teammate could use healing. And if its a good tank, it would take even longer or you won't even get the kill, which is more time wasted. I only fight tanks if the whole team focusing them and no one needs healing atm. if they come for me alone, i fight back but with the view to escape and regroup while doing enough dmg to make them back off.
@@mosquitohunter8711 Generally, I should have another healer on my team; if they can't keep people alive for the second and a half it takes to destroy Thor, that's not my fault. I don't hunt tanks, but they always make the mistake of coming for me. If a tank dives, gets burned and backs off, that's not time wasted. Every second a tank spends fighting me when they could go after someone they might actually kill is a gift to my team.
See, I understand it's a team based game, so I don't try to play it like I'm the main character, as so many DPS players do. Imagine thinking a support class fighting and not getting kills is a waste of time.
If yoy se they are lower than half health throw a dark veil on them then go back to healing if your team is competent they are going down
@@austinfinch3668 If your team is competent, you should be able to play as Cloak about half the time.
The only thing that needs changing is the dark dimension skill needs to hide and not break if someone shoots or reloads.. it could prevent shooting as a middle ground solution
Ngl I'm a cloak main and I'm always abt 50/50 but sometimes I'll be abt 70/30 so this is good advice I think it's situational depending on the team makeup and the other healers on your team
I have almost 50 hrs on cloak and dagger btw
In your quest to DPS as Cloak and Dagger you lost your healing potential, you could have put down your healing bubble down to give healing while you switched to Cloak to damage effectively having the skills in cooldown while doing both . You actively shot tanks that take little ticks of damage while your team is running around looking for heals, your ult could be a zoning damage or a zoning sustain field no use zoning the middle of the map unless it’s overtime imo so I’d probably use that for sustain most of the time in fights
@HyienUnmistkble agreed. One of the best tricks with CandD to master is like you said. If you are going to damage burn your dagger abilities, get in your healing bubble as dagger, throw void wall, dps, invis out swap back into dagger
I think people overlook cloak and dagger because of mantis and Luna but she’s just as good. I think it’s really close on who’s the best strategist, which is a good thing, any combination of the those 3 is great, I personally think the best combination is mantis and cloak, the damage your teammates will be doing is crazy, mantis can buff teammates so they can do more damage and cloak can debuff multiple enemies so they take more damage, both happening at the same time just melts everything
White wall does healing on contact and boosts healing from all sources for a short duration.
Purple wall near-sighted blinds enemies so they can't see past 10m in front of them and they also take bonus damage from all sources.
Wolverine's damage is based on your max HP. He's a tank buster.
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Well yes, but you have to be 8m or closer or it won’t heal you.
That and nullifying ults with the cloak ability is amazing.
Cloak and dagger mains, salute to you for helping them teamates. I just have problem with CLOAK main
i just realise that the skills of both cloak and dagger do not share the same cooldown !!!! this is so powerful yo !!!!!
It even shows the cooldown of the other form's abilities, so you know when to switch and pop off a blinding wall for instance.
i find it easier on dagger to use the wall to heal teammates because it increases teammates and dome only to save yourself from dives
When you use the dark teleportation to raise yourself up, you can ult over everyone's heads
The getting self-healing from Daggers attacks you mention at 00:22 , you neglected to say why.
Her heals are an AOE. You can see the blue ring from the aoe on the ground if you look carefully, it's even in this vid.
Thank you🎉
I was about to say bro only received healing when he walked into the faint, white AoE circle that appears on successful hits.
The first few hits did no healing.
Hope people don't think she's just a single target, pocket kind of strategist.
I thought I heard Joji in the background at the beginning but now i'm certain once I heard "Your Man" at the end there. Great video!
I do listen to Joji! glad you liked it cheers
White wall adds heal boost, purple add dmg boost on hit nmes
Cloak & Dagger are my main Strategist. They aren't very easy but really fun to play
As someone who played alot of mora on overwatch i find c&d actually easy to play
They are very easy to play
auto aim, what do you mean? You have mostly great matchups because youre the strongest duellist character wearing a strategist symbol, you can even stall 6 people or bait ults at the same time while you are standing in your souce and you can even get away.
I just downloaded this game and tried pretty much every character but cloak and dagger was by far my favorite.
Don’t forget dark teleportation (cloaks invisibility) can save your entire team from many ults, like jeff, iron man, scarlet, Thor, magneto, etc
Cloack and dagger otp here i can say after playing them for 71 hours and reaching grandmaster they are indeed op, oh yea and a tip i didnt realize till i reahced high rank to switch faster between them use your mouse scroll its faster than shift was faster in game deciding situations
Thanks! I learned a lot!
OMG YES THE STACKING IS SO FUCKING IMPORTANT
Insane tech: stop staring at the
People dont know how the ult works. I was in a game where I ulted against a storm tornado and my team was like, "How come I wasn't taking damage?"
I feel like there is a few pointers I could suggest for you, this is a great video! If your dps need healing and it is only one try using your basic healing instead of the dome. I noticed you use the dome and put it on cooldown, then a few seconds later actually need the dome more for your tanks or groups of allies that are crit compared to a solo dps. I also feel like you are choosing who to dps at the wrong time. You are focusing tanks to dps when 1: multiple people needed healing at 5:30 when you were doing dmg as well as that you should honestly have not been dpsing Penni. She was ulting and you did not have support to follow your dmg, as well as her supports were still alive to keep her up. If you are going to dps you should look for a support first, then dps, then tank if you need to dps them. You also have been dpsing quite literally when it doesn't do anything, Luna ults and you decide to dps the whole team covered by her healing, and let your team die. Also Penni heals herself when she is standing on webs/ulting. Also throwing your healing dome slightly in front of your tanks lets them be more aggressive while getting healed. Also if you need to dps please switch to cloak he does significant more dmg than dagger by a lot pls only reason you should dps as dagger is if they are too far out of cloaks range to hit. Also when mantis sleeps your team there is a purple mantis behind teammates u can shoot to get them out of sleep quicker. Also for the love of everything if everyone is full and there isnt dmg to be done why are you wasting your ammo and will have to reload mid fight, which could cause you to get someone killed cause u cant heal. Sorry if this seems like a lot, but tbh I wanted to be helpful. Also cloak and daggers ult does 220 healing per line you draw, if you overlap your ult lines it goes up to 660 healing per second. Sometimes like another user said it would be better to keep your ult all in one place vs spreading it out.
Love your videos , man . Your streams are always entertaining to watch and your personality is amazing. I hope you grow as a channel fast ❤. Thank you for this guide. I am trying to pick them up but it's pretty hard to master
The most annoying thing playing C&D is people not using your bubble. I try to use it as a pushing tool and no one ever stays in it instead dps decide to run off by themselves getting ganked and tanks dance around it thinking they will be fine 😆
im literally gold 1 with just cloak and dagger, i want to hit plat but man its so hard
SAME! been stuck in gold 1 for 4 days now, Im learning different tanks to hopefully move on from Gold so far its been working but I rather play support.
Diamond 3 on cloak and dagger here. Jus keep grindin
I got out of gold on the second day but man was it hell I’m diamond 2 rn and the bans are really nice
Bans are for children. "YoU cAn'T uSe ThAt ChArAcTeR 'cUz I cAn'T bEaT tHeM!" Learn to counter.
@ are you a Hawkeye main bye chance??
@@DeathhYk Cloak and Dagger
@@fizzywhizzbanger5610 Sames I love them
@@fizzywhizzbanger5610 and also bans Arnt for children it’s a feature they made. You have to be strategic on who you ban based on how strong or annoying a character is. If you have support plays in a 6 stack that get dove a lot ban the main dive characters to help you supports live or maybe one of the up coming hero’s are op and hard to fight against then ban them it’s not for children it’s a strategy
I don’t cloak unless I get pushed
I was under the impression that you could not stack the ult
Can u try do another mantis video, I've played mantis for a bit now but sometimes struggle on the healing aspect of her and my friends may or may not make fun of me for only having like 10k heals. I think I just play too aggressive cus i do normally get quite a few kills with her.
She’s a great pocket healer. You can maybe try being aggressive BEHIND another teammate and keep them and yourself life orbed.
you talk about people not prioritizing pennis spider nest while you are using dagger shots on the full hp tank instead of debuffing and melting the sup... then talk about needing to do more dps and that working out well while you watch a team mate die to a Penni...the title talks about secret tech but are very new to the game, role, and character
A lack of DPS is one of the biggest mistakes I see healers make. Can't heal dead, can't take damage if the enemies dead or running, and damage charges ults which most often cannot be out healed or out valued by healing.
C&D and rocket too lol yaaas
best cake in the game, freakin dps never kills anks and traps, its crazy how people in silver and gold still over commit, never reset and stagger.. have they learn nothing from overwatch
I hate cloak and dagger. compared to other supports she feels lackluster, as a tank player in diamond. it feels like it takes her forever to get healed up by her unless she drops all her abilitys on you
Same with rocket, although in my experience cloak players seem yo be way more dos brained and less healing focused. When I c
Vanguard I hope for Mantis and luna, but when I support I like cloak and dagger because she can change solo runs around in ways that other units aren't really able to imo
@@LoachAo so your using cloak and dagger because of survivability it makes sense but again I personally don't like them. I personal still like adem and Luna & Jeff just because of the burst heals it actually feels like you have time to do try to make a play vs other supports
@justachillgamer7698 Yeah, i see where you're coming from. When i play Vanguard I personally like luna and Mantis because one sustains you and maybe buffs you, and the other just pumps out crazy heals, plus they've both got cc. I should mention that my go-to vanguard is Captain America, so Jeff has a really hard time keeping the beam on me. A good cloak and dagger is great, though, as they have an aim assist on heals, so even the most spastic tanks can be healed easily. When I play support, I like Cloak because I have options if my dps aren't protecting me properly or if my tank is overextended.
hey Jae im trynna get outta gold too. lmao solo q is horrible lmao.
5:29 this is a definition of a moira play 😂 you could have healed and saved him but the moira decided to boost their damage stats instead of winning the game 😂 anyway came across your channel and im absolutely in love, subscribed ❤❤
thanks!
There’s times where it’s better to dps and alleviate pressure. This was not one of them
I think cloak needs to do more damage cause dagger is more reliable when it comes to DPS imo
She only does 15 dmg per dagger
@ yeah but you don’t have to really aim and it’s long range. I feel like it’s even more aiming required with cloak and You gotta be kinda close with and you can’t 1v1
@@ZenYaga. it’s really easy to outheal. It’s good for pressuring enemies like fliers or enemies off of a position, but it won’t do much to enemies that aren’t already health or in addition to your teammates damage. Cloak does 75 damage + 20% with his veil, it’s good for when you’re brawling with your team
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Peni parker is not a good counter to c&d, c&d is a good counter to peni parker. Bait her in a line then run your ult down the same path, wipes out her mines and any that are left you can cloak bait 👍🏼
Edit: not to mention, most of the time they will try to start their ult near the nest, so if you get backlines from their start when they are pushing forward you can kill the nest too then go back way back around to your team
Her ult doesnt destroy the minefield, you cant aim at her mines like scarlet witch which her auto aim does. And destroying the mine producing thing will most likely kill you because of how much health that thing has, i wouldnt waste a second of my ult doing that. Range Characters can counter that.
Penny is one of the strongest picks holding a point period, as a somewhat melee ranged fighter, the matchup is rather even as long as you dont step on mines, the burst damage can easily kill anybody.
Yeah no you have to be very careful ulting into Peni’s mines or you’ll get 1-shot in the middle of your ult. My first few games I learned that the hard way
As someone who plays both Peni and C&D... only the scrubbiest of Peni players would ever fall for that bait. It's not even "knowing what a CD wants to do", it's just knowing basic Peni strats and not overextending.
@@__-fi6xglol you arent trying to destroy the minefield aka web, just the mines… you proc the mines by going over them… and didnt say to use ult on the nest, just for the mines. Cloak for nest… ez
@@ShangTheHomeless if 4 or 5 mines trigger at the same time, i think you would die. the ult doesnt make you invulnerable, it only heals you. high burst damage can still take you out