Goofy we lost with the passer rating being good and our defense losing games along with our kicker , if Justin doesn't miss 22 points worth of field goals , we're literally 13-1
@@TwanJohnson-w6jyou totally missed his point. He’s saying Allen can win while having a bad game because his team stepped up. Lamar has to play perfect pretty much every game to win
@RavensTheNextDynasty didn't miss anything I understood how he meant it and if he meant it any other way he can debate or explain it himself it could go either way
@@TwanJohnson-w6jyou did misunderstand it. I’ve used his same argument to make Lamar’s case for MVP. It’s not a slight. It’s simply saying Lamar has to play GREAT or the ravens will lose & Allen can play TRASH and the bills still win. It implies Allen has the better team, which completely debunks their narrative.
The media Is working overtime to make Josh Allen’s MVP case. His numbers aren’t better plain and simple. How is he more worthy even if he has more wins if the stats aren’t the best?
Yeah his Numbers are Not Better but the MVP isn't about Numbers they say cause if it was by Stats and Numbers Josh Allen had almost twice the Touchdowns then Lamar did last year! Allen killed Lamar in STATS Last Year so instead of Lamar having MVP Last year Allen should of had it right if you go by the Numbers lmao
Ravens record when Lamar has under 110 qbr 0-5 Bills record when Allen has qbr under 110 4-2 Lamar leads in TDS Passing yards Rushing yards Yards per game Yards per attempt Rushing yards per game Rushing yards per attempt Less interceptions Higher completion percentage Higher qbr If you want to hold Lamar having derrick henry against him thats fine but lets hold allens easy schedule and his weaker division against him too. Ravens have the 2nd hardest schedule only behind the steelers. Everyone says josh allen beat the lions and chiefs but against the chiefs go look at Lamars numbers and then look at allens yet allen won, why? Because he can afford to not have a perfect game. For example, allen going 9/30 and still having a chance to win at the end only losing in the last few seconds. Lamar deserves it and its not close his numbers are just as good as 2 other players who had historic seasons and won mvps those seasons. Brady and rodgers. Lamar has had 2 5 TD games this season and 3 games with basically a perfect qbr. However, the real mvp will be whoever wins the superbowl. Whether its mahomes, lamar, goff, hurts or allen
Josh gets slack for his defense losing him games, where is this energy for Lamar when he had the 32nd worst passing defense 27th overall for the first 10-12 weeks?
Ravens record when Lamar has under 110 qbr 0-5 Bills record when Allen has qbr under 110 4-2 Lamar leads in TDS Passing yards Rushing yards Yards per game Yards per attempt Rushing yards per game Rushing yards per attempt Less interceptions Higher completion percentage Higher qbr If you want to hold Lamar having derrick henry against him thats fine but lets hold allens easy schedule and his weaker division against him too. Ravens have the 2nd hardest schedule only behind the steelers. Everyone says josh allen beat the lions and chiefs but against the chiefs go look at Lamars numbers and then look at allens yet allen won, why? Because he can afford to not have a perfect game. For example, allen going 9/30 and still having a chance to win at the end only losing in the last few seconds. Lamar deserves it and its not close his numbers are just as good as 2 other players who had historic seasons and won mvps those seasons. Brady and rodgers. Lamar has had 2 5 TD games this season and 3 games with basically a perfect qbr. However, the real mvp will be whoever wins the superbowl. Whether its mahomes, lamar, goff, hurts or allen
@ they are 3-3 against teams above .500. They play in a weak division feasting on bad teams barely beating them. Anytime they play a real team they aren’t the same team Josh isn’t looking like an mvp. Lamar has beaten more teams above .500. In a harder division. The bills team by PFF and pro bowlers this year are better but they only two games better.
@ What about Zero TDs and got benched for trubisky against the ravens? What about 9-30 vs texans? What about zero TDs and 2 ints vs colts? Don't act like he's only had 1 bad game. He's had atleast 4 but they got swept under the rug. Lamar was the mvp frontrunner until he had a bad game against the steelers (in the 1st meeting) and they couldn't wait to drop Lamar from down from the top spot. Allen has a bad game and now all of a sudden "it's just 1 game" yall not keeping that same energy.
He be lying on national tv. Josh Allen passed for 139 yards the first time they beat the dolphins. Did nothing. 148 against the 49ers. Did nothing but get carried. This last game he didn’t play nothing. Colts game three 2 picks no tds. They won that game some how. Then he wet the bed against the ravens and Texans in back to back weeks. That’s when the ravens were allowing 300yds passing to mfs off the street.
Mvp...look at team retro...change qb..kc has andy reid so theyll win reguardless of mediocre qb play. Baltimore has one of the most elite offenses with king henry as well so theyll win. Id like to say bills would win with offense playing the way they are but i dont think so. The reason bills won against elite teams this year has been josh allen putting on his cape and creating plays when needed. Not saying the other two havent as well but i do think it is a far worse cry..maybe bills 7-8
Buffalo has had one of the easiest schedules in the league. Ravens have had the hardest. Vegas still had Buffalo favored to win their division when the season started so it’s a false narrative acting like “no one” expected anything out of them. Ravens also beat the brakes off of Buffalo earlier this year.
I'm going to be honest with everybody on this chat. We the fans know that there is no way that Josh Allen is the MVP. Nobody in the whole chat thinks that Josh Allen is an mvp. Everybody in this chat is not from Baltimore. So this is not a biased opinion. It's just that people who watch football know there's no way in hell that Josh Allen is the mvp. But they keep Force feeding this guy on us. (No Diddy) Nobody other than Buffalo bills fans wakes up on Sunday and says let's see what Josh Allen is going to do today. Nobody even wants to see him play. Statistically he's not beating Lamar Jackson and anything other than rushing touchdowns. If we start to go game for game week by week who had the better game who had the better week there is no comparison between the two. Lamar Jackson is the only player this year with 12 100 passer rating games. And he still has two games to go. He has one game with a perfect passer rating and another game where he just missed another perfect passer rating by a fraction of a point.
I can't believe just how much the media is downplaying Lamar's performances. He schooled Josh Allen head to head, how can Stephen A say that one week it's Lamar played well, the next week it's Henry. James Cook ran for over 100 yds and got 2 tds against the Lions and carried the Bills to a victory over the 3-12 Patriots despite Josh Allen having a stinky game. BUT SURE JOSH ALLEN HAS NO HELP!
They are just always going to judge LJ more critically. He is that good. I really hope he win the Superbowl this year...to shut everyone up. It is interesting, though, how Dan Marino is looked at as a great QB, but he didn't win Superbowl.
The way the media is pretending that Allen had some huge lead for MVP after 3 good games is crazy. And them constantly bringing up Henry is funny because last season he won 6 games with Ryan Tannehill while Lamar won 13 games with Gus Edwards.
Bro James Cook is filthy good. Henry is benefiting from Lamar not vise versa. Zay flowers and Bateman have developed and their play is where it is because of Lamar.
Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen came into the NFL in the same year, but some how it is only Lamar who gets dissed for not having won a Super Bowl yet.. How is this an argument against him not winning his third MVP this year when he is clearly the best player of the two?
Also not true. Everytime the bills beat kc in regular season...it is brought up about bills in post season and how they have lost. But again not josh fault, buffalo defense couldnt get stops. Are we going to really say josh didnt play lights out in the infamous 21 second game where he loses where this game will forever be in nfl history...or a game where tied and bills couldnt defend after kc won coin toss in overtime, (where rule was changed after that game)
I really like to know what does Stephen A have against Lamar. The conversation, “who is your league MVP right now”. Shannon says Lamar, Stephen A. follows him up bringing up Lamar’s playoff success… sir, WHO IS YOUR MVP?! When has playoff success been a measure for MVP? Then he mentions the ravens losing to 2 last place teams and Jeff Saturday counters and says how Josh Allen plays the dolphins, jets, and patriots 6 times. Stephen A’s reply, “well it is any given Sunday”. Last I checked the ravens and raiders were both 0-1 at the time they played and then 2 weeks after, the Ravens smacked the Bills 35-10. Lastly, Josh Allen suppose to be in playoff/MVP form and struggled vs. a 3 win patriots team and was outplayed by a rookie Drake Maye
Well I don't see how you can say Lamar Jackson is MVP when he's lost 5 games and finally in the last 3 games is playing pretty good. But Josh Allen has played lights out in the middle of the season this MVP thing isn't how plays better at the end of the Season! Allen has way More MVP Moments this year playing I think!!
Lamar is 6-3 against playoff teams. Josh is 2-3. Josh has 6 games under a 90 rating. Lamar only has 2. When Lamar has a game under 114 they're 0-5. Above 114 they're 10-0. If Lamar isn't playing damn near perfect the Ravens lose. Strength of schedule matters. Lamar isn't racking up TD's from one yards runs at the goal line either. I'm not trying to talk down on Josh Allen to big up Lamar. Josh is a great player. Just trying to state the facts..and what separates Lamar. And if Henry is so crucial to the Ravens how come last year when they didn't have him Ravens were almost undefeated and #1 in the AFC? Also, last game James Cook ran for 100 yards with a TD. And he caught a receiving TD and had 26 yards. Allen doesn't have a bum in his backfield.
Lamar better surrounding talent Allen better overall numbers and more wins. Common sense tells you Allen is MVP favorite. No more DEI awards for Lamar.
Well I thought MVP Meant the Most Valuable Player on a Team ?? I Believe that's Allen the Buffalo Bills where supposed to have a Rebuild Season this year and where are they? In the Playoffs Again!!
Mvp winner is the top 2 people that play head to head the winner is the mvp which is lamar he won the josh allen buffalo bill head to head congrats lamar if they dont want you to win but you are the peoples champ
So every year other than this year, it was 100% Lamar. The first time he has actual talent around him he gets punished for it? When the hell did lamar have a diggs, a hill, an Adams? Other than Andrews, name one single player on the ravens that is big time. You can't. Lamar won MVP with Willie snead, Myles boykin, and a fastly overrated Hollywood brown. Talk about Henry of you want but raven's been running in everyone the whole time. Ingram, Gus, a washed bell, basically an RB they lined up. As much as Henry helps Lamar, Lamar helps Henry. Watch the Steelers game. All those giant holes were because they were scared Lamar was going to keep it
Loss to raiders as well. Everyone is talking about easy teams. Multiple offensive key players out almost every single game. Allen also has passing touchdowns even when he doesnt get personal one to the person who said 0 touchdowns to colts. Bills still have two games against division opponents. Also saying balt def isnt holding up, and bills secondary is? Bills pass rush is one of worst in league hence is why balt smoked bills. Also didnt have cooper in that game in fact not til game 7..possibly changes the whole game? And it wasnt so much lamar that smoked the bills, it was king henry. He could not be stopped in that game. If you also look at time of games allen sat out not just against balt, but other games when bills were smoming other teams thats somewhere in the line of a whole game not played. Had he played, maybe add another 3 to 4 total touchdowns. Miami only has a losing record because an injury to tua against the bills in week 2. With cooper bills would have definately beat texans. And josh has broken more records as of lately than most qbs can say in a single year. In fact he just tied another record with that game against ne. Most wins for a qb in first 7 years of play ever. And he still has ny jets and ne pats to go. So hell break another record. Lamar is behind him on that record as well... just food for thought
Why did the bills losing diggs take away expectations but us losing multiple defensive pieces key pieces doesn’t work in our argument and the fact the offense is low key over achieving based on how Lamar is viewed 😊
Bills lost more than diggs. They literally traded 4 of 6 captains on both offense and defense. Did everyone forget about the tre white, poyer and a few others
Damn the raiders were 1-1 at the point they beat the ravens with Devante Adams’s and Max Crosby Devante beat B Stephen’s for 2 tuddies to win that’s on Lamar 😂
Super bowl is a win for Lamar my team this is our year all the refs who😅 look the other way with chiefs and b others make calls on Ravens not always correct even the commentary seems to never praise my Ravens love my team this is our year long over due GO RAVENS ❤!!!!!!
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Okay we loss to two bad record teams we all know it’s any given Sunday like stfu Steven A I swear I hate his bs he be talking.. he just dislikes Lamar anytime he get a chance to not give him props he takes it. And with us losing to bad teams we sure as hell beat the 💩💩 outta Josh Allen and the bills like cut it tf out
The bills JUST won with allen being pathetic wtf???😂😂😂😂 See this is what irritates me man lol. Josh team good enough to win when he SUCKS. but because they don’t have big names it don’t matter lol stupid man
Why didn't he mention The 35-10 loss Lamar put on Josh had him on the sideline with his head down and took out the game
They benched Allen he played so bad lol.
@@pj_tha_saint literally lmao
Lmao Yoo! He literallly said everything but that 35-10 loss😂 Lamar mvp 🦾🦾
Because Lamar is dark skin and Josh is white
Because Stephen A loves his white qbs
Bills can win games when allen has a below 100 rating. Ravens havent won without lamar playing at a 114 rating or higher
Goofy we lost with the passer rating being good and our defense losing games along with our kicker , if Justin doesn't miss 22 points worth of field goals , we're literally 13-1
@@TwanJohnson-w6jyou totally missed his point. He’s saying Allen can win while having a bad game because his team stepped up. Lamar has to play perfect pretty much every game to win
@RavensTheNextDynasty didn't miss anything I understood how he meant it and if he meant it any other way he can debate or explain it himself it could go either way
@@TwanJohnson-w6jyou did misunderstand it. I’ve used his same argument to make Lamar’s case for MVP. It’s not a slight. It’s simply saying Lamar has to play GREAT or the ravens will lose & Allen can play TRASH and the bills still win. It implies Allen has the better team, which completely debunks their narrative.
@Therealestndagalaxy ohhh understood . Prospective is everything
The media Is working overtime to make Josh Allen’s MVP case. His numbers aren’t better plain and simple. How is he more worthy even if he has more wins if the stats aren’t the best?
Yeah his Numbers are Not Better but the MVP isn't about Numbers they say cause if it was by Stats and Numbers Josh Allen had almost twice the Touchdowns then Lamar did last year! Allen killed Lamar in STATS Last Year so instead of Lamar having MVP Last year Allen should of had it right if you go by the Numbers lmao
Ravens record when Lamar has under 110 qbr
0-5
Bills record when Allen has qbr under 110
4-2
Lamar leads in
TDS
Passing yards
Rushing yards
Yards per game
Yards per attempt
Rushing yards per game
Rushing yards per attempt
Less interceptions
Higher completion percentage
Higher qbr
If you want to hold Lamar having derrick henry against him thats fine but lets hold allens easy schedule and his weaker division against him too. Ravens have the 2nd hardest schedule only behind the steelers. Everyone says josh allen beat the lions and chiefs but against the chiefs go look at Lamars numbers and then look at allens yet allen won, why? Because he can afford to not have a perfect game. For example, allen going 9/30 and still having a chance to win at the end only losing in the last few seconds.
Lamar deserves it and its not close his numbers are just as good as 2 other players who had historic seasons and won mvps those seasons. Brady and rodgers. Lamar has had 2 5 TD games this season and 3 games with basically a perfect qbr. However, the real mvp will be whoever wins the superbowl. Whether its mahomes, lamar, goff, hurts or allen
Fucking facts bro. God bless you man.
I hope you have a merry xmas brother❤
Bro put some respect on James Cook 😂😂 they literally won last game because of him
Josh gets slack for his defense losing him games, where is this energy for Lamar when he had the 32nd worst passing defense 27th overall for the first 10-12 weeks?
These clowns forget it cause defense been cooking the last 3 weeks smfh recency bias like a mf
10 weeks ever since 1st
Exactly
@@JamahSassafras-ke6sfwe haven’t played an above average QB since then.
@@GoddeKnows before average QB's were torching us though
Stephen A is a clown, steady throwing dirt at Lamar and the Ravens. He cant even hide his hate
Ravens record when Lamar has under 110 qbr
0-5
Bills record when Allen has qbr under 110
4-2
Lamar leads in
TDS
Passing yards
Rushing yards
Yards per game
Yards per attempt
Rushing yards per game
Rushing yards per attempt
Less interceptions
Higher completion percentage
Higher qbr
If you want to hold Lamar having derrick henry against him thats fine but lets hold allens easy schedule and his weaker division against him too. Ravens have the 2nd hardest schedule only behind the steelers. Everyone says josh allen beat the lions and chiefs but against the chiefs go look at Lamars numbers and then look at allens yet allen won, why? Because he can afford to not have a perfect game. For example, allen going 9/30 and still having a chance to win at the end only losing in the last few seconds.
Lamar deserves it and its not close his numbers are just as good as 2 other players who had historic seasons and won mvps those seasons. Brady and rodgers. Lamar has had 2 5 TD games this season and 3 games with basically a perfect qbr. However, the real mvp will be whoever wins the superbowl. Whether its mahomes, lamar, goff, hurts or allen
His favorite team is Steelers. It's just natural.
The bills have a losing record against winning teams they have 12 wins because of the easy schedule.
They beat the lions and Kansas City this year what are you talking about? Not to mention how bad can their record be they are 12-3 homey
@rucker6666 they got belt to ass by the ravens literally packed them out they sat Josh Allen 😂
@ they are 3-3 against teams above .500. They play in a weak division feasting on bad teams barely beating them. Anytime they play a real team they aren’t the same team Josh isn’t looking like an mvp. Lamar has beaten more teams above .500. In a harder division. The bills team by PFF and pro bowlers this year are better but they only two games better.
@ What about Zero TDs and got benched for trubisky against the ravens? What about 9-30 vs texans? What about zero TDs and 2 ints vs colts? Don't act like he's only had 1 bad game. He's had atleast 4 but they got swept under the rug. Lamar was the mvp frontrunner until he had a bad game against the steelers (in the 1st meeting) and they couldn't wait to drop Lamar from down from the top spot. Allen has a bad game and now all of a sudden "it's just 1 game" yall not keeping that same energy.
@@TwanJohnson-w6j they lost
He be lying on national tv.
Josh Allen passed for 139 yards the first time they beat the dolphins. Did nothing.
148 against the 49ers. Did nothing but get carried.
This last game he didn’t play nothing.
Colts game three 2 picks no tds. They won that game some how.
Then he wet the bed against the ravens and Texans in back to back weeks. That’s when the ravens were allowing 300yds passing to mfs off the street.
Josh Allen looks more of running back then Lamar 😂😂😂😂
How is Allen the MVP? Lamar has the better stats Mahomes has the most wins by a QB So what criteria gives Allen the MVP lead ???
Good point
Mvp...look at team retro...change qb..kc has andy reid so theyll win reguardless of mediocre qb play. Baltimore has one of the most elite offenses with king henry as well so theyll win. Id like to say bills would win with offense playing the way they are but i dont think so. The reason bills won against elite teams this year has been josh allen putting on his cape and creating plays when needed. Not saying the other two havent as well but i do think it is a far worse cry..maybe bills 7-8
He 27 years old like wtf
Stephen a acting like his career over or sum lol
Buffalo has had one of the easiest schedules in the league. Ravens have had the hardest. Vegas still had Buffalo favored to win their division when the season started so it’s a false narrative acting like “no one” expected anything out of them. Ravens also beat the brakes off of Buffalo earlier this year.
Not too mention Allen was 2nd in mvp odds opening the season and Lamar was 5th. So who’s really outperforming expectations??
I'm going to be honest with everybody on this chat. We the fans know that there is no way that Josh Allen is the MVP. Nobody in the whole chat thinks that Josh Allen is an mvp. Everybody in this chat is not from Baltimore. So this is not a biased opinion. It's just that people who watch football know there's no way in hell that Josh Allen is the mvp. But they keep Force feeding this guy on us. (No Diddy) Nobody other than Buffalo bills fans wakes up on Sunday and says let's see what Josh Allen is going to do today. Nobody even wants to see him play. Statistically he's not beating Lamar Jackson and anything other than rushing touchdowns. If we start to go game for game week by week who had the better game who had the better week there is no comparison between the two. Lamar Jackson is the only player this year with 12 100 passer rating games. And he still has two games to go. He has one game with a perfect passer rating and another game where he just missed another perfect passer rating by a fraction of a point.
I can't believe just how much the media is downplaying Lamar's performances. He schooled Josh Allen head to head, how can Stephen A say that one week it's Lamar played well, the next week it's Henry. James Cook ran for over 100 yds and got 2 tds against the Lions and carried the Bills to a victory over the 3-12 Patriots despite Josh Allen having a stinky game.
BUT SURE JOSH ALLEN HAS NO HELP!
They are just always going to judge LJ more critically. He is that good.
I really hope he win the Superbowl this year...to shut everyone up.
It is interesting, though, how Dan Marino is looked at as a great QB, but he didn't win Superbowl.
He gon win that shit this year watch ! 🫡
The way the media is pretending that Allen had some huge lead for MVP after 3 good games is crazy.
And them constantly bringing up Henry is funny because last season he won 6 games with Ryan Tannehill while Lamar won 13 games with Gus Edwards.
I just skip Stephen A talking
Did you say Skip 👀
Russell Wilson “ forgot to slide “ is crazyyy
This was a good segment without Molly just guys being guys😂
He is still in the league. No one has carried a team like Lamar. We will be in the Superbowl this year. Take that to the bank.
Bro James Cook is filthy good.
Henry is benefiting from Lamar not vise versa. Zay flowers and Bateman have developed and their play is where it is because of Lamar.
Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen came into the NFL in the same year, but some how it is only Lamar who gets dissed for not having won a Super Bowl yet.. How is this an argument against him not winning his third MVP this year when he is clearly the best player of the two?
And Lamar is younger than Allen 😭😭 I don’t see any videos about Josh Allen’s career being a failure… weird
Also not true. Everytime the bills beat kc in regular season...it is brought up about bills in post season and how they have lost. But again not josh fault, buffalo defense couldnt get stops. Are we going to really say josh didnt play lights out in the infamous 21 second game where he loses where this game will forever be in nfl history...or a game where tied and bills couldnt defend after kc won coin toss in overtime, (where rule was changed after that game)
I really like to know what does Stephen A have against Lamar. The conversation, “who is your league MVP right now”. Shannon says Lamar, Stephen A. follows him up bringing up Lamar’s playoff success… sir, WHO IS YOUR MVP?! When has playoff success been a measure for MVP? Then he mentions the ravens losing to 2 last place teams and Jeff Saturday counters and says how Josh Allen plays the dolphins, jets, and patriots 6 times. Stephen A’s reply, “well it is any given Sunday”. Last I checked the ravens and raiders were both 0-1 at the time they played and then 2 weeks after, the Ravens smacked the Bills 35-10. Lastly, Josh Allen suppose to be in playoff/MVP form and struggled vs. a 3 win patriots team and was outplayed by a rookie Drake Maye
I’m so glad they all agree that Dan Orlovsky is high out of his mind😂😂
What does MVP have to do with the post season?
When the black QB gets players, it's held against him.
What was the score when they played Buffalo?
Lamar Jackson is the greatest player in the league. If Lamar don't win Superbowl? Let's talk coaching and referees.
I thought everyone said Henry was slowing down
Stephen A. the fact Baltimore already beat Buffalo kills your argument! This season LJ is 1-0 head to head against JA! I'M JUST SAYING! 😂😂😂
Well I don't see how you can say Lamar Jackson is MVP when he's lost 5 games and finally in the last 3 games is playing pretty good. But Josh Allen has played lights out in the middle of the season this MVP thing isn't how plays better at the end of the Season! Allen has way More MVP Moments this year playing I think!!
Wow I'm surprised at Jeff Saturday
Lamar is 6-3 against playoff teams. Josh is 2-3. Josh has 6 games under a 90 rating. Lamar only has 2. When Lamar has a game under 114 they're 0-5. Above 114 they're 10-0. If Lamar isn't playing damn near perfect the Ravens lose. Strength of schedule matters.
Lamar isn't racking up TD's from one yards runs at the goal line either. I'm not trying to talk down on Josh Allen to big up Lamar. Josh is a great player. Just trying to state the facts..and what separates Lamar.
And if Henry is so crucial to the Ravens how come last year when they didn't have him Ravens were almost undefeated and #1 in the AFC? Also, last game James Cook ran for 100 yards with a TD. And he caught a receiving TD and had 26 yards. Allen doesn't have a bum in his backfield.
Saturday finally saying some real ish now.
Last count Lamar performance has been steady the majority of the year Josh has had some lows
Come on Steven. Bills have a 6 game lead just from their division.
So if Josh Allen is the reason for the MVP and Lamar Jackson Beat them then how can Allen be better
I cant wait for us to put 40 points against Houston so people can shut their mouths on josh winning mvp
Lamar is 27 some of these mfs talk like he's almost out of his prime
Can you imagine Jordan coming up in this era losing to the Pistons
Beat the breaks off Allen 35-10
Name a player he had besides dh
But what you cannot forget Buffalo also lost to the Baltimore Ravens
Lamar better surrounding talent Allen better overall numbers and more wins. Common sense tells you Allen is MVP favorite. No more DEI awards for Lamar.
Lamar winning a ring is inevitable S.A
Well I thought MVP Meant the Most Valuable Player on a Team ?? I Believe that's Allen the Buffalo Bills where supposed to have a Rebuild Season this year and where are they? In the Playoffs Again!!
MVP with no SB !😂😂😂
Stephen A brings up an injured steelers team but dont bring up a horrible pats team that allen just did horrible against 😭
Or the Lions whole team being hurt
So won the game against the Patriots. Damn sure wasn’t Josh Allen.
Lamar benched Josh Allen
Can we please get cam newton on the show. Someone with a brain please!!
Mvp winner is the top 2 people that play head to head the winner is the mvp which is lamar he won the josh allen buffalo bill head to head congrats lamar if they dont want you to win but you are the peoples champ
I think Josh gets it because Lamar has 2 and out the nfl big 3 he’s the only one with no hardware
S/o to my nigga Ray for the upload!!
They all won super bowls late in career
So every year other than this year, it was 100% Lamar. The first time he has actual talent around him he gets punished for it? When the hell did lamar have a diggs, a hill, an Adams? Other than Andrews, name one single player on the ravens that is big time. You can't. Lamar won MVP with Willie snead, Myles boykin, and a fastly overrated Hollywood brown. Talk about Henry of you want but raven's been running in everyone the whole time. Ingram, Gus, a washed bell, basically an RB they lined up. As much as Henry helps Lamar, Lamar helps Henry. Watch the Steelers game. All those giant holes were because they were scared Lamar was going to keep it
Loss to raiders as well. Everyone is talking about easy teams. Multiple offensive key players out almost every single game. Allen also has passing touchdowns even when he doesnt get personal one to the person who said 0 touchdowns to colts. Bills still have two games against division opponents. Also saying balt def isnt holding up, and bills secondary is? Bills pass rush is one of worst in league hence is why balt smoked bills. Also didnt have cooper in that game in fact not til game 7..possibly changes the whole game? And it wasnt so much lamar that smoked the bills, it was king henry. He could not be stopped in that game. If you also look at time of games allen sat out not just against balt, but other games when bills were smoming other teams thats somewhere in the line of a whole game not played. Had he played, maybe add another 3 to 4 total touchdowns. Miami only has a losing record because an injury to tua against the bills in week 2. With cooper bills would have definately beat texans. And josh has broken more records as of lately than most qbs can say in a single year. In fact he just tied another record with that game against ne. Most wins for a qb in first 7 years of play ever. And he still has ny jets and ne pats to go. So hell break another record. Lamar is behind him on that record as well... just food for thought
U get up here an start believing your own press 😂😂😂😂😂🤦🏾
Why did the bills losing diggs take away expectations but us losing multiple defensive pieces key pieces doesn’t work in our argument and the fact the offense is low key over achieving based on how Lamar is viewed 😊
Bills lost more than diggs. They literally traded 4 of 6 captains on both offense and defense. Did everyone forget about the tre white, poyer and a few others
@ I’m with you but the narrative is for both
Weak ass division
Stephen A. is clown, nitpicking every small situation against Lamar is laughable!!!
As much as I want lamar to win it..I pray Josh get it so we can witness the hypocrite in Stephen a and the rest of these clowns
Damn the raiders were 1-1 at the point they beat the ravens with Devante Adams’s and Max Crosby Devante beat B Stephen’s for 2 tuddies to win that’s on Lamar 😂
Steven A definitely is a bottom for white boys😂 he fights hard for zaddy
He just got in the league.....Always a Hater
Look at the disgust on Django Stephen A face 😂😂fn clow🤡
Super bowl is a win for Lamar my team this is our year all the refs who😅 look the other way with chiefs and b others make calls on Ravens not always correct even the commentary seems to never praise my Ravens love my team this is our year long over due GO RAVENS ❤!!!!!!
All these guys are “MVP’s” bro lol like it’s not that serious. They are all dogs
Q.B position isnt about stats but for the sake of 📺 and agument is why "they,them,us,we"make it about...don't believe me believe G.O.A.T-HIMSELF T.B-12 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐_😔🐐🐐🐐😔
Stephen a need to cut his hair that shit is crazy looking 😊
Okay we loss to two bad record teams we all know it’s any given Sunday like stfu Steven A I swear I hate his bs he be talking.. he just dislikes Lamar anytime he get a chance to not give him props he takes it. And with us losing to bad teams we sure as hell beat the 💩💩 outta Josh Allen and the bills like cut it tf out
The bills JUST won with allen being pathetic wtf???😂😂😂😂 See this is what irritates me man lol. Josh team good enough to win when he SUCKS. but because they don’t have big names it don’t matter lol stupid man