I imagine an Indian Matt Easton in an alternate timeline explaining that while we all know that the European "sword" is a straight bladed, one-handed, double-edged, cross-hilted weapon used with a small shield you need to understand that Europe was home to many other weapons called "swords". There are ones called "rapiers" and "messers" and "Zweihanders" and even curved "sabers", many of which evolved from contact with Central Asian cultures such as the Mongols or Tatars....
@Phanitej Kanchu I'm familiar with this and with the exceptions to that rule which Matt pointed out as well as others. Been collecting Indian weapons for many years. It was a joke meant to illustrate the perils of using an over-broad term without an understanding of what it means to people where the term originated
There are sooo many different types of Tulwar & each type has its own unique system. Some are straight, some are curved a lot & are narrow w/ a slanted hilt, some curve just a little w/ a broad blade etc. Really fascinating stuff.
A sword can serve as an umbrella, if you are able to bat away every drop of rain using the flat of the blade.😀 Or you could throw the pommel to end the rain rightly.😂
The blade itself was called patta due to its resemblance to a sleek long belt. The hilt and the blade combined was called dandpatta. Commonly welded by the Rajputs in the north and the Marathas in south west. Rajputs used it as a cavalry sword. Where as the Marathas used this blade predominantly in the infrantry and always in a pair as a result enhancing its ability of a helicopter like motions. This type of weapon was very useful to the Maratha dynasty because of its location in the western ghats typically a very hard terrain.
As a French it's wired to me to make a distinction between "spear" and "lance" because lance is just the french translation of spear. Go home terminology, you're drunk.
@@Paid2Win That's most people's brain, but to me it's the same thing BECAUSE THAT'S THE TRANSLATION x) Because of that I feel like englophones are stupid, which is wrong in most caces (or is it? I still hold a grudge against British people for the 100 years war)
I too hate indiscriminate peoples for higher political moves of the higher classes. Fuck the french, for the period of baroque royalty and allowing usury to destroy their own people in their own greed.
@@Paid2Win I'm joking stop bulliying me, I can't hold a grudge for an event 700 years old, I wasn't even in europe at the time (this also humour, I wasn't born in case you didn't understand that one either)
I love this exact type of tulwar(curved one). Really beautiful sword. I would love to see a Katana or Naginata with a blade profile like that. Broad blades are just so beautiful.
Fulwa, tulwar, and we indian bengali call a sword = toroal & tolowar ..( which is =tulwar= toroal= tolowar) Butallthough there is 'war" in tulwar = toroal= tolowar.. I love youer vedios, I wish oneday we could meet.. I am not good in English..
@@toddellner you are a verry good person todd ellner.. please do research more about Indian sword and our aincent gods weapons, which all are similar to greek god, roman god, sintho god weapons...
Talwars are sometimes recurve ,foreward curved- (sosun patta), straight blade-kirach, serrated blade -(arra), snake blade -(nagina),and sometimes zulfiqar blade,and even khanda like blade😅
@Colin Cleveland good idea my friend ,but as I live in India it's easier to find antique swords ,so I am trying to get my hand on a khanda besides the catalogue would just make me want more and spend more which I can't afford right now😅
Talwars with straight blades were preferred by Marathas and in Karnataka. The Marathi word for such swords is Karnataki Dhop. The Peshwa Bajirao I is often represented on horseback carrying a Dhop.
@@sameerthakur720 Still giberish. For future reference, when you're using foreign words, try to explain it. I don't say "a tulwar is like a lovassági kard, with hajlított penge as one could see on the Feszti Körkép. Meanwhile firangis are like a hosszú kés, which come from német területek". If you didn't understand that, welcome to the club, that's how I feel about your comment. I get it, Indians are REALLY proud of their culture, for some inexplicable reason, but that doesn't mean we understand what you say.
@@sameerthakur720 Yes, that's literally my point, you imbecile. Most of the people watching these videos - shocker - aren't Indian. So maybe, JUST FUCKING MAYBE explain the Indian words you write down. God, no wonder India has such a low average IQ.
Hey, Matt. Not sure you'll ever see this, but I occasionally come across pictures of Indian swords that are basically tulwars but don't have the characteristic disk pommel. Instead they have strongly forward curved pommels in the style you usually see on Indian daggers, resulting in a look closer to that of other middle eastern swords. (Shamshirs, etc.) These pommels tend to be shaped like animal heads - tigers seem very common but I've also seen horses and elephants. Haven't found out anything particular about them so far, but I find them interesting since this shape seems to go for the complete opposite philosophy to that of standard tulwars. If the disk is meant to keep wrist movements to a minimum and ensure the sword is held at an angle to the arm, this other breed of hilt style seems intended to allow maximum forward tilt and wrist freedom. (As such I expect someone trained in most other saber styles would find them considerably more comfortable to use.) Hence why they strike me as a bit peculiar. Were they just an odd variation some Indians happened to prefer, characteristic of a particular region/cultural faction/period, intended for a different fighting style, or is there some other deeper context I'm missing? Just thought it might be an interesting topic since you bring up tulwars quite a lot.
2:50 Just because it is the same word in a different language doesn't mean it designates the same item. Look at the differences between American and British English. Biscuits, chips, lemonade, all of these are markedly different things from one place to the other.
re. "tulwar" = "sword". The same is (kinda) true of Japanese. "Tsurugi" means sword - even if it's generally applied to straight double-edged swords, and "katana" means a curved single-edged sword. The japanese wiki page for "katana" has a picture of a french cavalry saber at the top.
直刀 - tyokutou - straight sword 刀 - katana - single-edged curved sword Notice it's the same character. 銃剣 - zyuuken - bayonet 剣 - turugi - sword Likewise. So what you say is true but things get messy when we look at writing. Colloquially you could call a European longsword a katana in Japanese, and as long as there was some contextual indication of what you're referring to, nobody would be confused.
@@WiggaMachiavelli Why does Japanese have so many seemingly unrelated words for a sword / different kind of swords? Do you know the etymology behind them? With English it is easy to understand, because they simply borrowed words whenever they encountered a new type of design they wanted to distinguish from other types of swords. Saber, rapier, epee, cutlass and so on. Endemic terminology on the other hand is based almost solely on compound words and "sword", like broadsword, smallsword and so on. Even in my native language the different words for simply a 'sword' are explained by borrowing, language and culture contact. säilä - Original Uralic word. kalpa - Baltic loanword. miekka - Germanic loanword, also preserved in Polish (miecz) and Czech (meč)
@@taekatanahu635 It's basically the same as what's being discussed in the video. There's various reasons, different types and lengths, different periods in history, etc.
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7:26 to actually get to the point of the video. Classic Matt Easton.
A few points on this video: - Tulwar is Sanskrit for 'One Edged Sword'. Basically it means Sabre, not Sword. The word for Sword may vary by region, in Punjab the word is 'Tegh', which refers to a blade of 3 feet in length AKA a Sword. - The Curved Sword wasn't a product of Islamic invasion. It was a product of Central Asian Nomadic culture spreading throughout the East and adopting Islam. The swords of India, Persia and Arabia were ORIGINALLY straight (although India also had Recurve as you mentioned). Muslim influence in the Indian Subcontinent was around since 700 AD, but the Tulwar was only in existance since the 1300's. - A lot of blades were probably traded into India due to the suppressing of Indian industry after colonialism, after all Wootz/Damascus Steel is FROM India. This was also the case for India's textile industry, historically the Sub-continents largest export.
Curved swords became popular because of the Mughals. Before the Mughal ruling they were curved swords elsewhere in the world (e.g. Turkey, Persia), yes, and they originated from East Asia ORIGINALLY, indeed, but it was the Muslim rulers who made it particulary popular. That's because the Mughals had a "persian culture" : the tulwar resembles the shamshir, the dhal resembles the Persian shield, the Mughal (composite) bow resembles the Persian one, etc. Even the architectural style of the Taj Mahal is (obviously) influenced by Persian architecture.
Thanks Mr. Wikipedia. No, "Tulwar" is a Hindi word NOT a Sanskrit word. Because I actually studied Sanskrit, I checked the Monier Williams Sanskrit dictionary. Some Sanskrit words for sword are khaḍga from the root khaND - to divide or kRpANa - knife / sword from the original Sanskrit grammar. According to Sir Moneir Williams, the actual masculine noun from which tulwar/talwar derived is tara-vaari "one edged sword" which he did trace back to a 7th C ce panegyric court poem Harṣa-carita "The Deeds of Harṣa", who was a king of the Pushpabhuti aka Vardhana dynasty in north India. Unlike the two examples above, there is no additional information given for this word's origin and it is possibly a non-Sanskrit loan-word.
@@Michael-yf1wo You do realise you're not ACTUALLY disagreeing with me right? Also, what on earth do you think they spoke in the 7th Century? HINT: IT WAS SANSKRIT. Hindi is actually a fairly modern language, a mix of highly corrupted Sanskrit and Persian, which developed in the Hindi Belt around Delhi, where the Delhi Sultanate and Mughal Empire had the greatest influence. Urdu (the official language of Pakistan) is basically Hindi with less Sanskrit and even more Persian/Arab loanwords. You're calling me Mr. Wikipedia yet you're copying text from an online dictionary? Lol Sure... Okay Professor. The Khanda (Divider) is already a type of Indian straight sword. And the term Kirpan refers to a weapon of religious value, and only Sikhs use that term. These two words do not mean 'Sword'.
@@xllab1 Have you known waht are you saying . Curved swords presence in Indian battles dated *BCE* 😒 Mughal😒 Curved swords talwaar already in intensive use during 12 century onwards. .
The original Sanskrit word is not talvāra but taravāri, and that's where talvāra as it's called, was derived from. Talvāra did become popular in Indian subcontinent through both the Central Asian influence as well as the invasions it faced. However there have been a variety of indigenous swords other than talvāra, that have both curved and straight forms. Both straight and curved swords (inward or outward) (indigenously made) have existed in India since before Iron Age. These have been mentioned in various Sanskrit epics as well, khaḍga for eg. has been mentioned in several jain, buddhist scriptures too.
Im quite smitten with that straight bladed tulwar......Its interesting and pleasing to the eye. I know its a antique but I would want to cut tatami with it to get a feel for its handling. Great find!
In Albanian their word for sword (shpata) comes from the roman spata and their word for knife is thika which I assume comes from the sika knife used in that region anciently.
Matt One of my favorite blades in my collection is a Euro bladed tulwar just like your curved one there ..Really awesome blade .. I do not like the small handle or the disk however .. I'd love to find a dismounted blade and mount it to a 1796 LC type guard, and back strap and handle ..
You are absolutely right in this case. The firangi blades were used by Indians and specially Marathas because when they fought against Mughals for survival, i.e around the end of the 17th century and the start of the 18th century, it was much easier to import firangis than invest in a huge forge and lose it to the Mughals. Later when the Marathas actually established their supremacy in India you will find the firangis were imported less and less from around the mid 18th century. Anyhow, India did have the political influence of Portuguese since 1500 right up to 1590s after which they lost the momentum and lost numerous battles in India. Dutch had the trade influence but they were never a political influencer of the note after losing to the native ruler in the battle of colachel. French actually started or showed the process of "colonizing" India when they influenced nizam and started recruiting local sepoys. It was this trend that will be bettered by the British and eventually political disunity among native ruler and crafty British diplomacy coupled with better institutionalism that will colonize India.
My notification settings for your channel were set to 'Personalized' automatically. I came upon this video while skimming through my Home feed. Thanks for the inconvenience, RUclips.
India was a country since long ago , the traditional name was bharat . Also the curved blade wasn't derived from Islamic culture , kalaripayatu and some old northeastern martial arts used curved blades for ages as such even in the 16th century many types of blades were used by the Sikhs denoting the multiple style of Indian blades .
It became a country after gaining independence in 1945 before that the term "india" generally refers to the indian subcontinent ( including Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan and Sri Lanka ) And Bharat is what Indians called the subcontinent
Recently rewatched your videos "Smallswords which can cut" where you show us a dress smallsword with a ridge that is closer to the back of the blade rather than being centred like most are. While it could cut it the compromise had also made it more flexible. Do you think you'd be able to get a more rigid cut and thrust hybrid if you had a typical smallsword blade for half of the blade but from the centre of percussion and up it's flattened diamond cross-section?
Talwar comes from sanskrit word tarwari which basically means sword so a khanda is also talwar so is shamshir and have diff name acc to region ex khadga is also a word for sword yes many blade were imported into india but you got firangi wrong it is exactly the second sword which you shown with a straight sword which is called dhop in marathi and was the idea of shivaji to mount those on talwar hilt to have a reach advantage also only blade were imported without hilt and what is interesting it is that it was used to cut rather than stab so is khanda which tells us that indian martial art was heavily based on cuts rather than stab also talwar word if you split it then we get two words tal=base war=to attack,also many people doesnt know that before the persian or islamic conquest the culture of afg and india was almost same therefore pulwar splitting into phool =flower ,war=attack due to the presence of flowers on its hilt.
Something I'd like to hear about that I don't remember you ever addressing: How were curved swords used, and what role did they play, in cultures and eras where significant amounts of armor were common? It seems like straight thrusting blades would be more effective against an armored opponent, so why did some cultures primarily use curved cutting swords?
Uuuuuh thats pretty. Straight bladeweapons are most often so much more pretty to me then curved ones ^^ slight curves like many japanese bladeweapons, messer or some sabres are cool but hey... ^^ Love that "Indian backsword".
Do ferengi and foreign have the same root? Who called the East India Company "honourable" and why? This seems like a very odd combination given what you already said about the tulwar grip. It seems likely that John Nicholson had many swords if not nearly as many swords as Matt does. Maybe this combination of blade and hilt was just an experiment?
Firangi is a distorted version of word FRANKS ,Arabs used to refer crusaders as firangi I think it's not at all odd ,as we already had kirachs which are straight blade talwars Yes there are more than 16 types of talwars
@@rishabhsharma6112 I looked up the etymology of "foreign" and this site* gives a derivation from Latin via the French language. It also fails to explain why the word is spelled with a g, just that the spelling changed in the 17th century. Maybe the spelling was influenced by the Indian or Arabic use. * www.etymonline.com/word/foreign Thank you for the information on talwars. I know next to nothing about indian swords.
Kinda looks like a Viking sword, except I've tried and you can't really hold them the same way. I wonder what the point of a thin straight blade is if you can't actually thrust with it.
Does that mean that, in period, any sword not of an Indian type (specifically those not mounted on an Indian hilt, either) would also have been called a Firangi?
Matt, when you say "Germans" who, specifically, are you speaking of? Germany didn't exist as a country until something like 1871 or so. Before then, it was 30-odd ( or more ) kingdoms or principalities, spread over a good-sized chunk of central Europe. So where were all these swords being made, and by whom?.
The Islamic part makes sense. Curved blades are better at slicing off limbs and heads as this is a common punishment in the Quran for non Muslims who fight against Islamic expansion. That's why marines are called leathernecks because corsairs always aimed for the neck, thus the leather neck covering
@@rainsmith4460 they took a lot of things and claimed it as they're own invention. That's my point there's a reason they favored it. I'm also talking about corsairs as well, you know pirates in a 700 year long slave trade.
I imagine an Indian Matt Easton in an alternate timeline explaining that while we all know that the European "sword" is a straight bladed, one-handed, double-edged, cross-hilted weapon used with a small shield you need to understand that Europe was home to many other weapons called "swords". There are ones called "rapiers" and "messers" and "Zweihanders" and even curved "sabers", many of which evolved from contact with Central Asian cultures such as the Mongols or Tatars....
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@Phanitej Kanchu I'm familiar with this and with the exceptions to that rule which Matt pointed out as well as others. Been collecting Indian weapons for many years. It was a joke meant to illustrate the perils of using an over-broad term without an understanding of what it means to people where the term originated
Haha yes cosplay
Lol
Madin Estandari talking about European weps.
There are sooo many different types of Tulwar & each type has its own unique system. Some are straight, some are curved a lot & are narrow w/ a slanted hilt, some curve just a little w/ a broad blade etc. Really fascinating stuff.
I keep being amazed that you can do these stories in one take.
Thank you for making these always interesting videos.
I love the umbrella stand doing duty as a sword stand in the background.
A sword can serve as an umbrella, if you are able to bat away every drop of rain using the flat of the blade.😀
Or you could throw the pommel to end the rain rightly.😂
Umbrella stands ALWAYS serve as stands for sabres in a sword collector's house ;)
i also use every corner and large shells from tanks and large cannons too. under furniture and off course all of the walls.
@@sameerthakur720 That really only works if you have a katana, though.
@@harjutapa Only if the holy and revered Katana has a pommel which can be unscrewed.
The blade itself was called patta due to its resemblance to a sleek long belt. The hilt and the blade combined was called dandpatta. Commonly welded by the Rajputs in the north and the Marathas in south west. Rajputs used it as a cavalry sword. Where as the Marathas used this blade predominantly in the infrantry and always in a pair as a result enhancing its ability of a helicopter like motions. This type of weapon was very useful to the Maratha dynasty because of its location in the western ghats typically a very hard terrain.
It's simply called Saif a Mughal weapon😏
You're the best sword guy on YT!
That sword is beautiful!
I'm high on caffeine!
Marvelously relatable, but alas, not today...
As a French it's wired to me to make a distinction between "spear" and "lance" because lance is just the french translation of spear.
Go home terminology, you're drunk.
Lance to me is the charging/jousting variety while a spear is for ground units.
That's just my brain
@@Paid2Win That's most people's brain, but to me it's the same thing BECAUSE THAT'S THE TRANSLATION x)
Because of that I feel like englophones are stupid, which is wrong in most caces (or is it? I still hold a grudge against British people for the 100 years war)
@@atrior7290 damn your life must be hard
I too hate indiscriminate peoples for higher political moves of the higher classes.
Fuck the french, for the period of baroque royalty and allowing usury to destroy their own people in their own greed.
@@Paid2Win I'm joking stop bulliying me, I can't hold a grudge for an event 700 years old, I wasn't even in europe at the time (this also humour, I wasn't born in case you didn't understand that one either)
That straight double edge talwar is typically not a talwar. Talwar literally means Single edge sword.
U can call it as Short Jagdamba sword.
I love this exact type of tulwar(curved one). Really beautiful sword.
I would love to see a Katana or Naginata with a blade profile like that. Broad blades are just so beautiful.
Fulwa, tulwar, and we indian bengali call a sword = toroal & tolowar ..( which is =tulwar= toroal= tolowar)
Butallthough there is 'war" in tulwar = toroal= tolowar..
I love youer vedios, I wish oneday we could meet..
I am not good in English..
Your English is much, much better than my Bengali. You do not need to apologize
@@toddellner you are a verry good person todd ellner.. please do research more about Indian sword and our aincent gods weapons, which all are similar to greek god, roman god, sintho god weapons...
Talwars are sometimes recurve ,foreward curved- (sosun patta), straight blade-kirach, serrated blade -(arra), snake blade -(nagina),and sometimes zulfiqar blade,and even khanda like blade😅
@Colin Cleveland good idea my friend ,but as I live in India it's easier to find antique swords ,so I am trying to get my hand on a khanda besides the catalogue would just make me want more and spend more which I can't afford right now😅
Indians itself know nothing about weapons😂😂😂😂
Talwars with straight blades were preferred by Marathas and in Karnataka. The Marathi word for such swords is Karnataki Dhop. The Peshwa Bajirao I is often represented on horseback carrying a Dhop.
This sounds like you made up a bunch of random words and mixed them together.
Check for images of Bajirao I. Also, the firangi is called the Dhop in Maharashtra.
@@sameerthakur720
Still giberish. For future reference, when you're using foreign words, try to explain it. I don't say "a tulwar is like a lovassági kard, with hajlított penge as one could see on the Feszti Körkép. Meanwhile firangis are like a hosszú kés, which come from német területek".
If you didn't understand that, welcome to the club, that's how I feel about your comment.
I get it, Indians are REALLY proud of their culture, for some inexplicable reason, but that doesn't mean we understand what you say.
The words may be foreign to you. Not to me. I am from Maharashtra and I've seen such swords.
@@sameerthakur720 Yes, that's literally my point, you imbecile. Most of the people watching these videos - shocker - aren't Indian. So maybe, JUST FUCKING MAYBE explain the Indian words you write down.
God, no wonder India has such a low average IQ.
Hey, Matt. Not sure you'll ever see this, but I occasionally come across pictures of Indian swords that are basically tulwars but don't have the characteristic disk pommel. Instead they have strongly forward curved pommels in the style you usually see on Indian daggers, resulting in a look closer to that of other middle eastern swords. (Shamshirs, etc.) These pommels tend to be shaped like animal heads - tigers seem very common but I've also seen horses and elephants.
Haven't found out anything particular about them so far, but I find them interesting since this shape seems to go for the complete opposite philosophy to that of standard tulwars. If the disk is meant to keep wrist movements to a minimum and ensure the sword is held at an angle to the arm, this other breed of hilt style seems intended to allow maximum forward tilt and wrist freedom. (As such I expect someone trained in most other saber styles would find them considerably more comfortable to use.) Hence why they strike me as a bit peculiar.
Were they just an odd variation some Indians happened to prefer, characteristic of a particular region/cultural faction/period, intended for a different fighting style, or is there some other deeper context I'm missing? Just thought it might be an interesting topic since you bring up tulwars quite a lot.
the muslims carried the variants without the disk in the hilt.
Samsher is different and talwar is different
2:50 Just because it is the same word in a different language doesn't mean it designates the same item. Look at the differences between American and British English. Biscuits, chips, lemonade, all of these are markedly different things from one place to the other.
Tea -> No American equivalent
Ice -> No British equivalent
re. "tulwar" = "sword". The same is (kinda) true of Japanese. "Tsurugi" means sword - even if it's generally applied to straight double-edged swords, and "katana" means a curved single-edged sword. The japanese wiki page for "katana" has a picture of a french cavalry saber at the top.
直刀 - tyokutou - straight sword
刀 - katana - single-edged curved sword
Notice it's the same character.
銃剣 - zyuuken - bayonet
剣 - turugi - sword
Likewise.
So what you say is true but things get messy when we look at writing. Colloquially you could call a European longsword a katana in Japanese, and as long as there was some contextual indication of what you're referring to, nobody would be confused.
@@WiggaMachiavelli Why does Japanese have so many seemingly unrelated words for a sword / different kind of swords? Do you know the etymology behind them?
With English it is easy to understand, because they simply borrowed words whenever they encountered a new type of design they wanted to distinguish from other types of swords. Saber, rapier, epee, cutlass and so on. Endemic terminology on the other hand is based almost solely on compound words and "sword", like broadsword, smallsword and so on.
Even in my native language the different words for simply a 'sword' are explained by borrowing, language and culture contact.
säilä - Original Uralic word.
kalpa - Baltic loanword.
miekka - Germanic loanword, also preserved in Polish (miecz) and Czech (meč)
@@taekatanahu635 It's basically the same as what's being discussed in the video.
There's various reasons, different types and lengths, different periods in history, etc.
7:26 to actually get to the point of the video. Classic Matt Easton.
A few points on this video:
- Tulwar is Sanskrit for 'One Edged Sword'. Basically it means Sabre, not Sword. The word for Sword may vary by region, in Punjab the word is 'Tegh', which refers to a blade of 3 feet in length AKA a Sword.
- The Curved Sword wasn't a product of Islamic invasion. It was a product of Central Asian Nomadic culture spreading throughout the East and adopting Islam. The swords of India, Persia and Arabia were ORIGINALLY straight (although India also had Recurve as you mentioned). Muslim influence in the Indian Subcontinent was around since 700 AD, but the Tulwar was only in existance since the 1300's.
- A lot of blades were probably traded into India due to the suppressing of Indian industry after colonialism, after all Wootz/Damascus Steel is FROM India. This was also the case for India's textile industry, historically the Sub-continents largest export.
Curved swords became popular because of the Mughals. Before the Mughal ruling they were curved swords elsewhere in the world (e.g. Turkey, Persia), yes, and they originated from East Asia ORIGINALLY, indeed, but it was the Muslim rulers who made it particulary popular. That's because the Mughals had a "persian culture" : the tulwar resembles the shamshir, the dhal resembles the Persian shield, the Mughal (composite) bow resembles the Persian one, etc. Even the architectural style of the Taj Mahal is (obviously) influenced by Persian architecture.
Thanks Mr. Wikipedia. No, "Tulwar" is a Hindi word NOT a Sanskrit word. Because I actually studied Sanskrit, I checked the Monier Williams Sanskrit dictionary. Some Sanskrit words for sword are khaḍga from the root khaND - to divide or kRpANa - knife / sword from the original Sanskrit grammar. According to Sir Moneir Williams, the actual masculine noun from which tulwar/talwar derived is tara-vaari "one edged sword" which he did trace back to a 7th C ce panegyric court poem Harṣa-carita "The Deeds of Harṣa", who was a king of the Pushpabhuti aka Vardhana dynasty in north India. Unlike the two examples above, there is no additional information given for this word's origin and it is possibly a non-Sanskrit loan-word.
@@Michael-yf1wo You do realise you're not ACTUALLY disagreeing with me right?
Also, what on earth do you think they spoke in the 7th Century? HINT: IT WAS SANSKRIT. Hindi is actually a fairly modern language, a mix of highly corrupted Sanskrit and Persian, which developed in the Hindi Belt around Delhi, where the Delhi Sultanate and Mughal Empire had the greatest influence. Urdu (the official language of Pakistan) is basically Hindi with less Sanskrit and even more Persian/Arab loanwords.
You're calling me Mr. Wikipedia yet you're copying text from an online dictionary? Lol Sure... Okay Professor.
The Khanda (Divider) is already a type of Indian straight sword. And the term Kirpan refers to a weapon of religious value, and only Sikhs use that term. These two words do not mean 'Sword'.
@@xllab1 Have you known waht are you saying .
Curved swords presence in Indian battles dated *BCE* 😒 Mughal😒
Curved swords talwaar already in intensive use during 12 century onwards. .
The original Sanskrit word is not talvāra but taravāri, and that's where talvāra as it's called, was derived from. Talvāra did become popular in Indian subcontinent through both the Central Asian influence as well as the invasions it faced. However there have been a variety of indigenous swords other than talvāra, that have both curved and straight forms. Both straight and curved swords (inward or outward) (indigenously made) have existed in India since before Iron Age. These have been mentioned in various Sanskrit epics as well, khaḍga for eg. has been mentioned in several jain, buddhist scriptures too.
1) That pommel swell might be a good trait as well. Did many Europeon hilts have that large swell?
2) where did you get that T-shirt?
Brazil nut. Viking. Some dussacks and broadswords.
Im quite smitten with that straight bladed tulwar......Its interesting and pleasing to the eye. I know its a antique but I would want to cut tatami with it to get a feel for its handling. Great find!
In Albanian their word for sword (shpata) comes from the roman spata and their word for knife is thika which I assume comes from the sika knife used in that region anciently.
* Sosun Pattah (not Susan Pata) Google is probably thinking I'm a stalker now, but at least I found a new favorite sword.
Good choice it's my favourite too, I find easier to stab with it and it's quite popular in south India( it was)
Matt
One of my favorite blades in my collection is a Euro bladed tulwar just like your curved one there ..Really awesome blade .. I do not like the small handle or the disk however ..
I'd love to find a dismounted blade and mount it to a 1796 LC type guard, and back strap and handle ..
My dream job/hobby is to have a shop with equipment to make and modify stuff like this. Maybe once I retire and am rich, right?
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It's a source of peace to restore swords to the best of one's abilities yes
You are absolutely right in this case. The firangi blades were used by Indians and specially Marathas because when they fought against Mughals for survival, i.e around the end of the 17th century and the start of the 18th century, it was much easier to import firangis than invest in a huge forge and lose it to the Mughals. Later when the Marathas actually established their supremacy in India you will find the firangis were imported less and less from around the mid 18th century. Anyhow, India did have the political influence of Portuguese since 1500 right up to 1590s after which they lost the momentum and lost numerous battles in India. Dutch had the trade influence but they were never a political influencer of the note after losing to the native ruler in the battle of colachel. French actually started or showed the process of "colonizing" India when they influenced nizam and started recruiting local sepoys. It was this trend that will be bettered by the British and eventually political disunity among native ruler and crafty British diplomacy coupled with better institutionalism that will colonize India.
Hi, I like Bengalis ,they are smart ,looks like you are a history student
This rate of new video upload is curving my tulwar!
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It’s like places selling chai tea, when chai just means tea
India was a country since long ago , the traditional name was bharat . Also the curved blade wasn't derived from Islamic culture , kalaripayatu and some old northeastern martial arts used curved blades for ages as such even in the 16th century many types of blades were used by the Sikhs denoting the multiple style of Indian blades .
It became a country after gaining independence in 1945 before that the term "india" generally refers to the indian subcontinent ( including Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan and Sri Lanka )
And Bharat is what Indians called the subcontinent
Using talwar Maharana Pratap cut Mughal opponent Bahlol Khan into two pieces in battle of Haldighati
😂😂😂
Who , one the ran away from Battlefield in fear of Akbar the Great Mughal Emperor or hindustan
That is a Mughal hilt which is on the straight European sword.. We would call it a Firangi (also means white men)
There is a straight style blade in India.. It's called Saif.. but its thinner blade
Very nicely described in details.....really amazing....
Recently rewatched your videos "Smallswords which can cut" where you show us a dress smallsword with a ridge that is closer to the back of the blade rather than being centred like most are. While it could cut it the compromise had also made it more flexible. Do you think you'd be able to get a more rigid cut and thrust hybrid if you had a typical smallsword blade for half of the blade but from the centre of percussion and up it's flattened diamond cross-section?
Did you hear about those warriors from Hammerfell?
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Brilliant video really loved it cleared up a few questions I had
"Pala, palas" is probably Hungarian word for a straight blade with "pistol" (curved, aka sabre) grip
14:04 are the great Sword of The Grand Nagis
@ Ano N Ymus. In german language ,mogeln' means means to do a ,soft/small' lie or unfine trick to get an advantage, for example in a game.
for the longest time i thought a tulwar was the beaked mace carried by bombata in conan the destroyer lol
I want to see you do something on the Kirach and the Sosun Patta.
Talwar comes from sanskrit word tarwari which basically means sword so a khanda is also talwar so is shamshir and have diff name acc to region ex khadga is also a word for sword yes many blade were imported into india but you got firangi wrong it is exactly the second sword which you shown with a straight sword which is called dhop in marathi and was the idea of shivaji to mount those on talwar hilt to have a reach advantage also only blade were imported without hilt and what is interesting it is that it was used to cut rather than stab so is khanda which tells us that indian martial art was heavily based on cuts rather than stab also talwar word if you split it then we get two words tal=base war=to attack,also many people doesnt know that before the persian or islamic conquest the culture of afg and india was almost same therefore pulwar splitting into phool =flower ,war=attack due to the presence of flowers on its hilt.
Something I'd like to hear about that I don't remember you ever addressing: How were curved swords used, and what role did they play, in cultures and eras where significant amounts of armor were common? It seems like straight thrusting blades would be more effective against an armored opponent, so why did some cultures primarily use curved cutting swords?
With such a flexible foible does it still count as a cut & thrust sword? Is it a good thruster?
I suspect this sword would work well with an Indian style buckler.
Then what do you think it'll work better with?
Sir plz reply how much should be real talwar weight used in battles???
Uuuuuh thats pretty.
Straight bladeweapons are most often so much more pretty to me then curved ones ^^ slight curves like many japanese bladeweapons, messer or some sabres are cool but hey... ^^
Love that "Indian backsword".
I missed the "when" in the title on first read and all I could think was "uh you wanna fuckin try again m8"
Another superb video. Thanks.
Please make a vdo on forward curved indian blades
I agree, the Tulwar is in fact SO FLAT that its flatness has become negative! Thereby giving the illusion of it being curved
Think you are going to like this video:
How Did War Become a Game?
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Do ferengi and foreign have the same root?
Who called the East India Company "honourable" and why?
This seems like a very odd combination given what you already said about the tulwar grip. It seems likely that John Nicholson had many swords if not nearly as many swords as Matt does. Maybe this combination of blade and hilt was just an experiment?
Firangi is a distorted version of word FRANKS ,Arabs used to refer crusaders as firangi
I think it's not at all odd ,as we already had kirachs which are straight blade talwars
Yes there are more than 16 types of talwars
@@rishabhsharma6112 I looked up the etymology of "foreign" and this site* gives a derivation from Latin via the French language. It also fails to explain why the word is spelled with a g, just that the spelling changed in the 17th century. Maybe the spelling was influenced by the Indian or Arabic use.
* www.etymonline.com/word/foreign
Thank you for the information on talwars. I know next to nothing about indian swords.
In India any kind of sword is called talwar
If you don't know now you know nigah -Biggie Smalls
That is a super sexy sword and I'm totally going to use that design in my writing
India has 23 language officially
What a nice T-shirt. Now that TankFest is on away at the moment!
In India there were copies of european style blades
Are there Wootz steel made talwars?
Yes
Kinda looks like a Viking sword, except I've tried and you can't really hold them the same way. I wonder what the point of a thin straight blade is if you can't actually thrust with it.
Why would someone downgrade a hilt?
It looks awesome. That's for sure.
Did he say 'moogle'? As in those cute, fluffy things from Final Fantasy?
Yes. Who can forget the famous Moogle invasion of 1556. Kupo!
@@Immopimmo Truly, there has never been a more infamous tyrant, nor a more skilled breakdancer, than Emperor Mog I.
Thank you sir!
loved the video also whats that thing hanging on the wall behind you ?
Talwar blade how many inches
I picked up a couple of "Tulwars" at a car boot some time ago. No Idea if they're real. need to get someone to look at them really.
look at that sword with bone white grip in the back
The shamshir?
Matt,
How do you spell that forward-curved sword? Closed-Caption rendered it "Susan Putter."
I'd like to look up some examples.
Thanks.
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Susan-/sujanpatta
Sousun patta -> "so-soon-put-ahh"
I want a (curved) Tulwar for my collection.
I also
Does that mean that, in period, any sword not of an Indian type (specifically those not mounted on an Indian hilt, either) would also have been called a Firangi?
wouldnt a straight tulwar be called a vaal (by tamils/nairs) or would it be a firangi (mughals and rest of india)
Firangi are actually foreign swords
Are you going to do a video on that "patu" you have on the wall?
What a beautiful sword... will this one be up for acquisition in your shop anytime soon, or are you keeping it?
Cool t-shirt!!
Next :a thowar with katana blade
it's called ''tega'' mostly used by sikh warriors in wars with mugals and other armies.
Speaking of Indian words that we use wrong . . . 'chai tea'. Chai means tea. Sounds like baby talk. Grrrrrrr . . .
Not enough info on distal taper!
Where did you get that shirt? I want it..
Talwar means sword and the talwar you are showing named "tega talwar"🙏
Is that firangi for sale?
Did the homie Matt Easton just quote Biggie?
Matt, when you say "Germans" who, specifically, are you speaking of? Germany didn't exist as a country until something like 1871 or so. Before then, it was 30-odd ( or more ) kingdoms or principalities, spread over a good-sized chunk of central Europe.
So where were all these swords being made, and by whom?.
He means city states like solingen.
I have same talwar
Pretty sure I went to school with a Susan Pata...
Talwar was the basic weapon of Rajputs
The Islamic part makes sense. Curved blades are better at slicing off limbs and heads as this is a common punishment in the Quran for non Muslims who fight against Islamic expansion. That's why marines are called leathernecks because corsairs always aimed for the neck, thus the leather neck covering
At the time of the Arab expansion they mostly used straight single handed single edged swords.
@@rainsmith4460 they took a lot of things and claimed it as they're own invention. That's my point there's a reason they favored it. I'm also talking about corsairs as well, you know pirates in a 700 year long slave trade.
The "curvation" of the sword could be moreTurco-Mongol tradition than islamic.
Why does sword 2 have a black blade?
Patina - it happens to all carbon steel if left uncleaned for a long time. It's the natural oxidization.
Just like gladius
Interesting, thanks.
Its called SAIF
This is Nice 💗
The last time I hit something this fast, I got cited for sexual assault and public exposure.
TALWAAR
Sir it's not tulwar it's a talwar
Could you make videos about talwar before islamic invasion of india
Tawa its talvar
Firangi means French
It means Frankish, though the term Frankish was used by the Persians to refer to all Europeans.
Its Pronounced as "TAL-WAR"
Tal meaning palm and war meaning attacking.. that's how it got the name..
You don't know more about it ok it from more century not from 15 to 16 century