The "Would you kindly" in Bioshock took be by complete suprise. Also the ending of Bioshock Infinite, never saw that coming. You can never forget the part where Arith is killed in FF VII, that has haunted me my whole life.
That was just straight murder! I played out with my son, and he bawled his eyes out having to kill her . I won't lie had tears in my eyes too @mikeaina386
Shepherds betrayal isn't really out of nowhere. Like at first glance and on the surface, sure. But if you really listen to his dialog and his actions, it really shows that it builds up to his betrayal.
I honestly think that even if a video game has a big reveal with no foreshadowing, it WILL have foreshadowing, but the hints are very subtle so that players don’t catch it the first time. Case in point, the big twist of Bioshock with three simple words: Would You Kindly? That phrase is said a lot in Bioshock, and even in the intro, it is written on a letter. That phrase obviously has to mean something, but until the big reveal, we aren’t aware that it is a trigger phrase to control the main protagonist.
Like the the mission where you go to a Safe Room and grab a briefcase on Shepherd’s direct orders, and your team comments on the tattoos on the dead bodies, pretty sure this was a hint towards Shadow Company
@@chaseperkins6949In my opinion, the reason why Bioshock’s big twist of Would You Kindly works so well is that at the times where it is told to you, you have to do it. Like when you first enter Rapture and after a Splicer is driven away, a voice asks you this: “Would You Kindly pick up that shortwave radio?” And you do it. And then when Andrew Ryan destroys the sub with Atlas’ wife and child on it, Atlas asks you: “Would You Kindly head to Ryan’s office and kill that SOB? It’s time to end this.” And guess what, you are now heading towards to Andrew Ryan’s office to do just that. It also works on the player, as the player is so used to taking orders from an NPC in-game they don’t suspect that something is off.
I trigged on to Shattered Menories "twist" very early on. It was just a matter of connecting the, admittedly, very subtle hints laid out by the therapy sessions.
To be fair you can inadvertently get hints that Master Miller is Liquid at a couple of points in the game by tying to call him on the codec (and him not answering) whenever Liquid is around. IIRC there's also a couple of moments where he's happy / upset about things he shouldn't be, or where he has knowledge he shouldn't have (such as Snake's half-japanese heritage). But these are mostly obvious in hindsight rather than obvious at the time.
Often there's an expected twist but with a totally unforeseen element. In Bioshock, everyone playing for the first time expected SOME type of betrayal along the way, but the "Would You Kindly?" connection tended to come as a real shock.
How about the appearance of the Flood in the first Halo game? And this was back in the days when games came with manuals that often described all the enemies you'd be facing. The zombie-like Flood infection was a complete surprise that completely changed the entire seemingly simple Human-Covenant battle we were told was the focus of the game.
Liquid being Miller has subtle build up from how he reacts to certain things, his disappearance during the Hind D fight, and even how hard he tries to put a wedge between Snake and his support team.
Does it count if you actually are just learning another language? Like Tunic and Chants of Sennaar and Heaven's Vault? Okay, okay, but seriously: Baba Is You is like this as far as I've heard... There's also Noita.
#4 reminds me of a crazy plot twist in an old game called "Enclave". that game has a "light" campaign and a "dark" campaign. every level of the "dark" campaign ends with you stepping into a magical portal to go back to HQ. BUT, at the end of one level, AFTER stepping through the portal, the leader says "i don't need you anymore" and straight-up kills your character! BUT, that's not the end of the game, it counts as FAILING THE MISSION, forcing you to play it ALL over! to continue the story, you have to step into a DIFFERENT magical portal at the end that takes you somewhere else!
PS5, through 9 as sequels while skipping PS8. But being Peckthesda; you know there will be glitches from the NPC's. But to add onto the Samus surprise ending; it also depended on how well you played. The better you did the more that would have been revealed as Samus being a woman. I had to play through the game twice after beating once and never got that ending. My buddy had to show me when I went over to his place because I didn't believe him one day and he put the game in.
Big Pidge Forever came out on the PS8! Most people forget it because it was the one where Big Pidge tried bring back mid-2000s grey and brown edgy gaming and it just didn't work...
I liked Silent Hill: Shattered Memories. Granted I too was disappointed about No combat or the horror was regulated to specific sections, I got over it and enjoyed the story!
Games where the end game lasts for 5+hours. Has the final conversation with everyone before the “final” battle but then it’s a new area and 4 more “final” battles.
Yeah right, I’m pretty sure for most of these games, the big reveal was being built up, but the game is so subtle with these reveals it looked like the reveal came out of nowhere. And sure, with Metroid, the reveal did come out of nowhere, but we didn’t know Samus was a girl at that time. Like let’s say you didn’t play the original Metroid, but played, let’s say, its GBA remake Zero Mission first, where after defeating Mother Brain, Samus removes her Power Suit. That would reveal that Samus is a girl, and if you played the original Metroid after Zero Mission, you will know that Samus is a girl. Plus, Samus is not a male name, so Samus being female is very possible if you know your male and female names.
The Liquid Snake one is so wrong I can't even compose myself. There's SO MUCH subtle foreshadowing, from the moments when you can't call Miller on the codec, to the things Liquid occasionally says during cutscenes, the fact that you can't call him during the Hind fight, but there's also a parachute indicating that Liquid most definitely survived, all of his not-so-subtle nudges about Naomi. The master plan is also foreshadowed way before it happens. People just don't see it the first time they're playing. Most important piece of the puzzle comes when Vulcan Raven tells Snake that DARPA chief wasn't actually DARPA chief. That's all you need to know to understand you're being played.
Liquid Snake and Shepherds Betrayal are the biggest ones that are wrong. And I’m also sure there is subtle foreshadowing in the big reveal of Silent Hill Shattered Memories, like the biggest clue is the game’s title itself, Shattered Memories. Now whose memories are shattered in the game? And another reveal that is wrong is the reveal of Samus being a girl. If you didn’t play the original Metroid first but played other Metroid games first, like Zero Mission where Samus is revealed to be female after defeating Mother Brain before the forced stealth section and then played the original Metroid, you will know that Samus is a girl. Plus, Samus isn’t a male name, so being a female is very much possible.
As a kid I didn't have Xbox Live for a bit so I would just play the MW2 campaign over and over. When you do you start seeing very subtle things Shepherd does and says that imply he has other plans.
First time giving a recommendation, how about games that didn't need multiple endings, this is coming off the back end of playing Nine Sols and getting the "good ending" when in my opinion it should just be the ending, the same goes for Red Dead Redemption 2, if you got anything but the good one you're a monster and missed the entire point of the game. I understand player agency is extremely important in video games but sometimes the requirement for multiple endings is not necessary to the narrative the game is pushing.
How about a list of the best video games based on books? What about KOTOR? The plot twist that you are Revan was so far out of left field, it has stayed with me as my favorite video game moment for over 21 years.
Glad for the Conduit 2 deep cut. Shame it never got a third game. Oh wow. Shattered memories also. Only one I have ever touched as we got it for the Wii. Eating real good on memory lane.
So infamous second son who is that. The future past baby of a the past future you while the now you stops the future you stopping past future you make said baby to be your second son infamously making no sense at all hahaha
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Honorable mention: Mass Effect. Sovereign is not a Reaper's flagship, he is a reaper. That got me by surprise.
The "Would you kindly" in Bioshock took be by complete suprise. Also the ending of Bioshock Infinite, never saw that coming. You can never forget the part where Arith is killed in FF VII, that has haunted me my whole life.
Just here to say that the Laurel and Hardy joke was awesome; more of that, Sir 👌🏾
Platinum trophies on primarily single player games that are blocked by ridiculously hard/ time consuming multiplayer achievements.
Metal gear 5....cough cough...
ac4. got everything except the online trophies
i’m stuck on arkham asylum’s combat challenge maps, they’re ridiculously hard 😅
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Who says twists have to come at the end…AC3’s reveal that Haytham is a Templar, not an Assassin, still gets me
8 Cutest Video Game Enemies Who Did Nothing Wrong.
I.e the Waddle-Dees from the Kirby Franchise.
Cactuar should be on that list
Cutie from It Takes Two as #1
That was just straight murder! I played out with my son, and he bawled his eyes out having to kill her . I won't lie had tears in my eyes too @mikeaina386
Jeff is not safe
Bioshock's - "Would you Kindly"- was such a huge twist. I'm so surprised it's not on this list.
But it’s a smart surprise, so not out of nowhere
Big Pidge!!! High five!
Shepherds betrayal isn't really out of nowhere. Like at first glance and on the surface, sure. But if you really listen to his dialog and his actions, it really shows that it builds up to his betrayal.
I honestly think that even if a video game has a big reveal with no foreshadowing, it WILL have foreshadowing, but the hints are very subtle so that players don’t catch it the first time. Case in point, the big twist of Bioshock with three simple words: Would You Kindly? That phrase is said a lot in Bioshock, and even in the intro, it is written on a letter. That phrase obviously has to mean something, but until the big reveal, we aren’t aware that it is a trigger phrase to control the main protagonist.
@@krvgames9258before I read the rest of your comment I was already thinking of BioShock
Like the the mission where you go to a Safe Room and grab a briefcase on Shepherd’s direct orders, and your team comments on the tattoos on the dead bodies, pretty sure this was a hint towards Shadow Company
@@chaseperkins6949In my opinion, the reason why Bioshock’s big twist of Would You Kindly works so well is that at the times where it is told to you, you have to do it. Like when you first enter Rapture and after a Splicer is driven away, a voice asks you this: “Would You Kindly pick up that shortwave radio?” And you do it. And then when Andrew Ryan destroys the sub with Atlas’ wife and child on it, Atlas asks you: “Would You Kindly head to Ryan’s office and kill that SOB? It’s time to end this.” And guess what, you are now heading towards to Andrew Ryan’s office to do just that. It also works on the player, as the player is so used to taking orders from an NPC in-game they don’t suspect that something is off.
No-one was checking on Master Miller as everyone thought he was still alive, right?
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"I even wore three belts." 😂
10 Gaming Instincts we've picked up over the years. Not Following a quest marker. Big Open area = Boss Fight.
How about always checking BEHIND YOU at the start of a level (especially a side scroller)
8 video game final bosses who weren’t really the final bosses.
I trigged on to Shattered Menories "twist" very early on. It was just a matter of connecting the, admittedly, very subtle hints laid out by the therapy sessions.
To be fair you can inadvertently get hints that Master Miller is Liquid at a couple of points in the game by tying to call him on the codec (and him not answering) whenever Liquid is around. IIRC there's also a couple of moments where he's happy / upset about things he shouldn't be, or where he has knowledge he shouldn't have (such as Snake's half-japanese heritage). But these are mostly obvious in hindsight rather than obvious at the time.
Here for the Simon Miller shared universe with Triplejump.
How about games that seem stupid until one piece of information is revealed, either in game or out, that changes your perception of it completely.
Often there's an expected twist but with a totally unforeseen element. In Bioshock, everyone playing for the first time expected SOME type of betrayal along the way, but the "Would You Kindly?" connection tended to come as a real shock.
Psy's editing continues to be top tier
Best celebrity casting in video game history.
"Only You Can Help This Pidge" 😂😂😂
Nah we don't get enough Laurel & Hardy references.😂
How about the appearance of the Flood in the first Halo game? And this was back in the days when games came with manuals that often described all the enemies you'd be facing. The zombie-like Flood infection was a complete surprise that completely changed the entire seemingly simple Human-Covenant battle we were told was the focus of the game.
Liquid being Miller has subtle build up from how he reacts to certain things, his disappearance during the Hind D fight, and even how hard he tries to put a wedge between Snake and his support team.
gaming predictions / gadgets of the future that came true.
Thank you for the break! Keep doin what you doin!
8 video games so complex it's like learning another language
Kerbal space program
That a good one
Dwarf Fortress
Hell even something as simple as little big planet 2 can get complex when you're trying to figure out the full extent of the level creator
Does it count if you actually are just learning another language? Like Tunic and Chants of Sennaar and Heaven's Vault?
Okay, okay, but seriously: Baba Is You is like this as far as I've heard... There's also Noita.
Pretty sure jules was playing his rendition of God of War. The end begins to rock on the kazoo on the intro? LOVE IT!!!!!
12 minutes' ending is gut wrenching 😢. I would love to see more coverage of this amazing story
#4 reminds me of a crazy plot twist in an old game called "Enclave".
that game has a "light" campaign and a "dark" campaign.
every level of the "dark" campaign ends with you stepping into a magical portal to go back to HQ.
BUT, at the end of one level, AFTER stepping through the portal, the leader says "i don't need you anymore" and straight-up kills your character!
BUT, that's not the end of the game, it counts as FAILING THE MISSION, forcing you to play it ALL over!
to continue the story, you have to step into a DIFFERENT magical portal at the end that takes you somewhere else!
PS5, through 9 as sequels while skipping PS8. But being Peckthesda; you know there will be glitches from the NPC's. But to add onto the Samus surprise ending; it also depended on how well you played. The better you did the more that would have been revealed as Samus being a woman. I had to play through the game twice after beating once and never got that ending. My buddy had to show me when I went over to his place because I didn't believe him one day and he put the game in.
Big Pidge Forever came out on the PS8! Most people forget it because it was the one where Big Pidge tried bring back mid-2000s grey and brown edgy gaming and it just didn't work...
Fate Stay Night already did that "I'm you, but from the future and now I'm here to kill you"
Didn't realize you were such a talented musician - sick slick kazoo master!
Jade Empire made me want a list of 8 Best Fighting Styles in Video Games.
8 big tearjerking moments in video games
Heck yes for Conduit 2 loved it
The Samus body suit reveal was a time limit thing? I had no idea, I just thought it was a regular part of the game after beating once before.
Stop bragging lol it took me a lot of tries as a kid to see Samus like that on the og metroid.
Josh Brown need his own show!!! His developer interview was great
I liked Silent Hill: Shattered Memories. Granted I too was disappointed about No combat or the horror was regulated to specific sections, I got over it and enjoyed the story!
Games where the end game lasts for 5+hours.
Has the final conversation with everyone before the “final” battle but then it’s a new area and 4 more “final” battles.
10 funniest death animations in gaming history.
8 Criminally underrated unknown games. (Azure Dreams)PS1
That Hardy Boy's got me good.
idk Pidge is so cool I think we're the ones that need him in order to survive
Yeah right, I’m pretty sure for most of these games, the big reveal was being built up, but the game is so subtle with these reveals it looked like the reveal came out of nowhere. And sure, with Metroid, the reveal did come out of nowhere, but we didn’t know Samus was a girl at that time. Like let’s say you didn’t play the original Metroid, but played, let’s say, its GBA remake Zero Mission first, where after defeating Mother Brain, Samus removes her Power Suit. That would reveal that Samus is a girl, and if you played the original Metroid after Zero Mission, you will know that Samus is a girl. Plus, Samus is not a male name, so Samus being female is very possible if you know your male and female names.
Lol dies he say the boy like that 😂😂😂
11:29 something going back and forth is not pinballing, it's pingponging. Pinballing describes something much more frantic and random.
In MW2 the player is Roach during the betrayal, so, as Roach, you watch Shepard shoot you and set you on fire.
Just in time for all of the holidays: 8 great games for families; not co-op nor party play but specifically fams.
8 games that you hated as a child but love as an adult, or vice versa, 8 games you loved as a child but hate as an adult
Video game bosses that you have to fight multiple times in a game
i add Grumpos from Anachronox,the only clue i saw was his refusal to go to Limbus otherwise there wasn't any other clue
I love Jules and Psy so much lol
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8 best games in the warhammer franchise
Baten kaitos and magna Carta tears of blood have great plot twist!
They threw the hints in your face and you realize later those facts
I disagree on the twist in Jade Empire. Your "wise old mentor" didnt die?!? He had to therefore be the villain.
The Liquid Snake one is so wrong I can't even compose myself. There's SO MUCH subtle foreshadowing, from the moments when you can't call Miller on the codec, to the things Liquid occasionally says during cutscenes, the fact that you can't call him during the Hind fight, but there's also a parachute indicating that Liquid most definitely survived, all of his not-so-subtle nudges about Naomi. The master plan is also foreshadowed way before it happens. People just don't see it the first time they're playing. Most important piece of the puzzle comes when Vulcan Raven tells Snake that DARPA chief wasn't actually DARPA chief. That's all you need to know to understand you're being played.
Liquid Snake and Shepherds Betrayal are the biggest ones that are wrong. And I’m also sure there is subtle foreshadowing in the big reveal of Silent Hill Shattered Memories, like the biggest clue is the game’s title itself, Shattered Memories. Now whose memories are shattered in the game? And another reveal that is wrong is the reveal of Samus being a girl. If you didn’t play the original Metroid first but played other Metroid games first, like Zero Mission where Samus is revealed to be female after defeating Mother Brain before the forced stealth section and then played the original Metroid, you will know that Samus is a girl. Plus, Samus isn’t a male name, so being a female is very much possible.
I think that COD 2 twist came at the end of a level I gave up on as I just couldn't beat it
Top 8 JRPGs where you fight a god, but not God.
8 Best Games By Obsidian Entertainment
Honorable mention Rainbow Six Vegas 2
8 great OST's trapped in bad/mediocre games
Ed Woodward keeping busy since leaving Man Utd, writing into What culture.
I keep seeing the one per list bit, but when's the last time there was one to be one per list?
Top 8 physical arcades from the '80s and early 90s
That damn caterpillar game would always pinch my palm with its roll ball
10 best double agents
Top 8 secret vehicles in gaming
Vigilante 8 the ufo was amazing
7 games where you can join the opposition and continue playing.
As a kid I didn't have Xbox Live for a bit so I would just play the MW2 campaign over and over. When you do you start seeing very subtle things Shepherd does and says that imply he has other plans.
8 video games that are overhyped what’s that you say it would be nothing but fromsoft games fair point
8 Most Difficult 8 Bit Video Games
First time giving a recommendation, how about games that didn't need multiple endings, this is coming off the back end of playing Nine Sols and getting the "good ending" when in my opinion it should just be the ending, the same goes for Red Dead Redemption 2, if you got anything but the good one you're a monster and missed the entire point of the game. I understand player agency is extremely important in video games but sometimes the requirement for multiple endings is not necessary to the narrative the game is pushing.
8 great video games with no spoken dialogue
PHUCK Big Pidge, I'm a SLIME JESUS kinda guy!!!
Browser/flash games Jukes. Do it so I can stop bothering you
What is Simon Millar doing nowadays?
Edward Woodward?
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The Adoring Fan. In _any_ incarnation.
How about a list of the best video games based on books?
What about KOTOR? The plot twist that you are Revan was so far out of left field, it has stayed with me as my favorite video game moment for over 21 years.
Bro why wasn't a Eragon game ever made
@@marcussimmons4122would have made a great game.
why does he look like he was beaten up
8 ways indie games are better than AAA games
8 beautiful video game worlds in terrible games.
Top bald characters.
You just watched one
@@ThePman007 Right, now we just need 7 more.
I actually really liked Shattered Memories so much, that I think I finished the game about 3 times
8 fan favorite character that you just despise
if Drawn To Life: The Next Chapter isn't here then what's the point of the list?
What was the twist? I never played it 😅
I suggest the top eerily uncanny moments in otherwise unimmersive games.
Glad for the Conduit 2 deep cut. Shame it never got a third game.
Oh wow. Shattered memories also. Only one I have ever touched as we got it for the Wii.
Eating real good on memory lane.
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Ayee got an episode on my birthday 😊
Infamous only copy the story of emiya shiro and archer and made it way more shi.....er
So infamous second son who is that. The future past baby of a the past future you while the now you stops the future you stopping past future you make said baby to be your second son infamously making no sense at all hahaha
Jokes on both of you, I already follow both of you on Bluesky, and I've even talked to both of you!
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*8 video game bosses who tried to seduce you!!*
Damn Simon looking like the rock!