To answer those who might be mildly frustrated with me for starting up new what-if stories rather than continuing my existing ones: My intention was never to neglect certain stories - but simply to give my viewers a small and varied selection to enjoy, before continuing with others. Rest assured, I intend to finish *each* and every one of my what-if's. Please see the poll I've just put up on my channel's community-tab to vote for the next Sonic What If you wish to see. Thank you! 💚
Just curious, will there be a third what if about if Sonic never lost his werehog form? I felt like the ending to the 2nd one was an ending but I swear I read somewhere that there was a 3rd. I am really liking your what if series though.
The most interesting thing that could happen past this point to me is how this new development might impact the creation of E-123 Omega? After all, Omega was made with Gamma's betrayal completely unknown, and he ended up being too unruly and was locked away with Shadow. But now that Gamma is alive with his betrayal laid bare to Eggman, how might that new info influence Omegas creation? Perhaps he was made as a direct counter to Gamma? How would his turn against Eggman work this time, if Eggman doesn't ensure undying loyalty when programming him, preventing said turn? Could this first betrayal clue him in on other possible betrayals, nipping Metal Sonics plan in the bud? Sonic Heroes will probably get a whole lot more interesting now.
the comics actually go in depth on this. Gamma having a sniperesque showdown in the snowy hills while shadow searches for gamma to recruit to G.U.N, They end up taking Omega back after Gamma transfers his metallic soul to Omega and that's how they justify Sonic Heroes never being a plot in archie sonic
What if Sonic and Blaze switched dimensions at the end of Sonic Rush? Blaze would be stuck in Sonic's world and Sonic would be stuck in Blaze's dimension.
To this day, E-102 Gamma is still my all-time favorite robot in the Sonic series, with Omega taking up 2nd place. I just loved Gamma's story arc, his road to redemption, and like most of us, I really did break down in tears when he died. It's by far the most emotional piece of Sonic lore ever, and to this day.... I wish there was a way for the true Gamma to return... So seeing this new "What-If" has really gotten me excited, I cannot wait to see where this goes!
I kinda like the idea of them maybe belonging to Cream or Vanilla, as they’re both very caring people and I feel like Cream would be the kind of girl to sentimentally take pictures of her little bird family. Plus (as per the DX versions) Cream is seen in the area so she and Vanilla could possibly live nearby? I dunno, could add another layer to the story especially if Eggman plans on taking revenge on the traitor. We already know he’s done things when other robots have gone rogue like Metal in Heroes to Rivals/Rivals 2
Thank you for staying true to Amy's compassionate side. Most people just think she is just Sonic obessed. NO! She has gone out of her way to help others. And she can see the good in people.
Yeah good point but besides that I mainly see her as sonic Abscessed I never heard of that story until I saw it on sonic X it’s an anime by the way just telling you if you don’t know that and I just found This series now
@@lisaandethanc4284 I just looked up the word "abscess." Ew! The stories are based off the two Sonic Adventure games. Amy shows compassion to a Flicky, Gamma, and even Shadow. However, Chris took her place in Sonic X.
@@BlackFlash09 I never knew that but I still like Chris A little bit more than Amy but then again that’s just my opinion if your opinion is different I’m not gonna Judge nobodies opinion is right or Wong it’s completely up to you on how you want to View something
@@lisaandethanc4284 Yeah. Sorry, I do resent Chris a lot for stealing scenes from both Amy and Rouge. Amy never got to give her speech to Shadow because of Chris. Chris was given Shadow's inhibitor ring, instead of Rouge. And Shadow only chooses to save Rouge because of Chris on Prison Island.
@@BlackFlash09 good point but I honestly first saw Chris do that stuff first so I honestly perfer Chris prefer speaking instead of Amy or cream because I grew up with knowing that before I knew of what I know now but than again that is just my option
Ideas for Sonic: What If? the Echidna Tribe survived Tails never saved himself in Sonic Lost World Shadow never saved the world in Shadow The Hedgehog E-102 Gamma never rebelled against Eggman
The story we needed to know from one of the most interesting characters out of all Sonic cast. I admit I am one of those who cried at the end of Gamma story. Its new directive: find home. A journey that could lead Gamma to new places. I can only think of Gamma as a lone protector of the weak, working in the shadows to avoid Eggman's scanning. As for the owner of the birds, Vanilla is probably the best option, giving the background of the photo, but honestly I want a new character in this scenario: something like the new characters we saw in the comics - both IDW series, and Archie's Post-Genesis Wave; how about a family of wolf or pika-like critters?
Some excellent ideas, Miles! I also love that description of "lone protector of the weak" - that really suits the narrative I'm trying to paint for Gamma going forward!
I got some ideas: *Which gemstones are the most powerful *Are Bean & Jet related? *Perfect Chaos vs Biolizard *Are Tikal & Chaos 0 guarding the Master Emerald *Seaside Hill/Ocean Palace
@@liamclaydon3780 that's because the power of the chaos emeralds neutralized chaos. That's not an indication of its standard combat abilities Edit: plus, the Biolizard's threat was that of the ARK, not of its own power. Shadow could easily handle it alone, as seen ingame.
Personally Gamma's story was my favorite from sonic adventure because it was so different from all the others. I do believe the poor guy should've gotten a better ending and now you've given me the perfect story for Gamma. Thank you so much.
Holy shoot! I didn’t even think about who made that locket! That’s amazing! On the topic of the bird’s owner, I have an interesting idea. I envision the owner as someone who is one with nature and loves animals, with a calming personality and a soothing voice. As for the birds names, I like the idea of naming them after plants. The white one could be named Snowdrop, The blue one, since he’s a male in the games, could be named Aster, and the pink one named Camellia.
What if idea: What if Blaze and Sonic swapped roles? I saw fan art of this scenario before, but I really hope you can delve into it further. How would Blaze’s serious personality affect those around her, especially Tails? How would Amy behave without Sonic to obsess over? Would she fall in love with Shadow? And what about Silver? Assuming Blaze is labeled as The Iblis Trigger, would Silver hesitate to kill out of romantic feelings? And Sonic definitely doesn’t seem like prince or sacred gem guard material. Perhaps he would run off and try to dodge responsibility?
I was watching one of your what ifs and then this happened yeeeeeeeeesssss also I have an ideas 1. What if Maria survived 2. What if Shadow actually was an android 3. What if Sonic never met knuckles 4. What if Shadow Died at the end of SA2
lmao if shadow actually DIED in sa2 literally nothing would happen other then heroes having much less of an impact and mephiles taking the form of a different character instead of shadow.
Then there would be another character added on the list of Sega's characters with potential who sadly, only show up once (Emerl/Gemerl, yellow Shadow Android, Shade the Nocturnus, Illumina, Void, Lumina, Tikal, Marine, Bean, Fang, Bark, Infinite, Emperator Ix, the Deadly Six (all of them) , Neo Metal Sonic...)
The owner could be named Nick, he would be caring, kind and would always try to help/heal his fellow animals, but also plant, he would first be a little afraid of Gamma and would warm up to him, seeing his as caring and kind as him, but also a little clumsy Why Nick: this is a reference of the name of the prototype of sonic, he was named nick and his love interests was named Emy, which was prononce Amy
I think the birds could've belonged to Professor Pickle (i.e. excuse to be in Unleashed and/or why Eggman was so tame with the Professor when he kidnapped him), Ray, Mighty or someone close to where the birds could've been abducted. (However, Eggman had kangaroos and other exotic animals in the robots, so they could've been taken from anywhere). If I were to name the birds, I'd take inspiration from the parakeets I used to have: (Sweet, Sour, Spicy (the birds were bought in pairs)) Blue- Razz (Blue Raspberry) or Mizu/Mochi White- Parfait or Daifuku Pink- Uirō I guess you would want to have a theme with them, Sonic X suggested flowers bc Amy named 'Lily.' I'd assume their names would be indicative of where they came from.
This is great! Gamma was always one of my favorite parts of SA1 so its cool seeing him get some more spotlight. I'm excited how Gamma reacts to seeing Omega once this What-If gets to Sonic Heroes!
I don’t know how long "What If" series is going to be in the future, but hopefully I can find some time to make some artwork for this projects as well, because I love these videos so much c:
Dude, you're one of the best "what if" theorist I've ever seen! Seriously, this theory makes so much sense and if that would be the ending to Gamma story, we could get a separate game, where our favourite robot is a main character! Also, for a second I thought that Tails will rebuild Beta, so the bird could be transferred to him. Then he would create different power source for Gamma and we would have both of them alive. But you explained this very well and I think that Beta's remains was too damaged to rebuild him. Oh, and I would LOVE to see part 2 of it and what impact on history of later games Gamma would have. Especially in Sonic Battle, where he would met his another version: Chaos Gamma. Sorry for such a long comment, but I could not stay silent. You did such a good job with it. Thank you for creating this "what if" that bringed one of my favourite characters of all time back to life. Sorry if I made any language mistakes in this comment and have a nice day!
Thank you for the kind words of motivation, Exenom! I'm glad you enjoyed this Gamma story as much as I did writing it! Rest assured, Part 2 will be very unexpected and exciting 😊
Just one Correction: Chaos Gamma would not exist since that it is confirmed that Eggman assembled him with disassembled E-100 Series' remains(Gamma's) and was planning to build 'entirely' different Robots as we saw on Gimmet Shelter, and that is probably where E-123 Omega was created too. But if Chaos Gamma were to be assembled, Eggman would Use Parts From the Other Destroyed E-100 Series Robots.
SEGA really should have you be the voice of Eggman in the Sonic Adventure remake, because you do an excellent impression of his voice actor from SA1, SA2, Sonic Heroes, and Sonic Advance 3!
Admittedly I wanted the next what if to be a continuation of What if Sonic kept the Warehog form. But as a huge fan of Gamma I won't deny that this has caught my attention and you've really helped me to be engaged. This is also the first what if that starts at the beginning of the 3d francize where story centric Sonic games took place. I'm most certainly looking forward to his role in Sonic Adventure 2 and his possible interaction with Omega.
@@segascourge I see, that is nice to hear. I just hope you'll be able to figure out a way to get these what ifs out faster without sacrificing the quality. Cause waiting a month per what if is pretty hard given how good you make them.
@@golork3267 That's the problem, I'm only one guy. :'( Scripting takes the longest - so perhaps I could find stand-in scripters to help with future episodes; whilst I work on editing. I'm considering all kinds of things to help boost the speed and high-quality production of this Sonic What If series!
Yes!!! Another what if bringing back an underrated robot for SEGA. To me, gamma is such a robot some can relate to. Choosing between doing what's right even if it may cost him he's life. Not only that it almost destroyed me to see him return as a enemy again when I was younger. I happy to see if possible. Gamma would be a part of your other what if series. Like, him interacting with emerl, or sonic losing his memory, or even seeing sonic turn into a werehog. There's a ENDLESS amount of POSSIBLITYLIES for this beloved character revival. Oh yeah, one thing that almost slipped my mind is him encountering another one of eggman's robots turn good, he's younger brother omega.
Quartz the Gray Bird. The very first thing that got in my head. I'll update this post if i come up with the names for the others. Update: Dawn the Pink Bird and Aurora the Blue Bird. I really love giving names to characters. I usually spend quite a lot of time doing this. And about the video. While i didn't read how Archie revived Gamma, i can see that you did a great job at creating your own au that even makes sense to be canon. Theorycrafting is my other favourite thing to do besides giving names to things, and watching your videos before sleep really helps. BRB, gonna sub.
All right I have a bunch of great ideas for Sonic rewrites, but I’m just gonna list ten. 1: what if Eggman died in Sonic Lost World? 2: what if Silver died at the end of 06? 3: what if Chaos never turned evil? 4: what if Metal Sonic rebelled against Eggman, but in a good way? 5: what if the commander died in Shadow the Hedgehog? 6: what if Infinite redeemed himself in Forces? 7: what if Mephiles was the villain in Generations? 8: what if Rouge went with Knuckles to angel island after Adventure 2 (knuckles x rouge) 9: what if Shadow came back, but with his memory still intact? And finally 10: what if Sonic and or Shadow never came back after Adventure 2? (You can do both if you want)
I like 4 6 and 7 if mephiles was the villain they need to explain why he is backing mephiles was the main villain of sonic generation. And if infinite redeem himself then he would reveal to the whole cast that he is tails not the same tails from the whole series but mania tails from sonic mania.
I wouldn't even be able to imagine their owner in-depth (though an elderly woman comes to mind, for some reason) but as for their names, knowing the Sonic universe the way I do, their names likely have a theme for all three collectively. Like, they'd be named after colors; specifically related to their plumage. That's all I got 🤷♀️
Gamma should like fuse their bodies with Omega and commit its life freeing all of eggman robots (and stopping Eggman). Becoming the mighty "Gamega", a fused E-Series. Having the determination of Omega and the kindness of Gamma, he won't I feel like he could help shadow during his "Am I the real shadow?" phase in heroes by telling him (or Rouge) he is the real shadow earlier on when they first see a shadow android.
I kinda have a suggestion. What if metal sonic turned good? It could possibly take place after sonic heroes where after metal's defeat, when omega and shadow exchange looks, they decided to take metal to fix him and see if they could join G.U.N. After metal's fixed, he tried to destroy everyone, but omega stopped him. Then omega is tasked to watch metal. During their time together, omega would try to teach metal right and wrong. Metal learns over time and slowly becomes a better bot. He would still hate sonic, but he would want to defeat eggman as his main priority. And his abilities would have been useful during some of the future games.
Here's an idea: What if Sonic Forces never happened. Like really what if the Resistance never formed, and Eggman conquered the remaining 1% of the world?
I love all your what if’s so far there amazing I always wondered what if the echidnas tribe survived and how it would changes knuckles through out the series.
This is actually really pleasant. Gamma is such a well written character and despite only ever playing SADX his story always make's me feel. -When playing Lonesome Road was the second time I felt for a machine.- Now question is, what would Gamma think of his other Brother. Would he challenge Omega as they are a member of his Series.
This might be a long shot, but maybe in subsequent parts of this we could actually see more of the E-Series robots, Eggman specifically making them to either capture or destroy Gamma, culminating in Omega,perhaps being even more powerful than what we got. Idea for the Werehog what-if: Perhaps Amy could play a larger role in Sonic's life? I was wondering what would happen if Amy saw Sonic in such a state when playing Unleashed. Maybe ironically Sonic's best help will come from the one he's always pushed away?
I'm really glad that someone, especially a youtube user, remembers E-102 Gamma recognizing him as a character that does belong to the official Sonic chronology, and I'm also glad that he used a little of his time to create this video, That for me was something that surprised me and at the same time it surprised me since it shows Gamma's life if he had survived and your anecdote was very well constructed, thank you very much for taking this undervalued character into account: ')
Thank god your doing this theory gamma is kinda like my favorite being a robot who rebel against egg man and became good and save his fellow robots and the animals powering them up. I'm glad your doing Sega Scourge thank you Edit: since your doing a what if theory of "what if E-102 Gamma survive" could you think that if the bird inside of gamma finally heals and leaves gamma, gamma will still operate because it manages to scan a bit of memories from the bird and gamma doesn't need any power source to live because gamma's own free will has given him the exact unlimited power source that he needed it to survive think about it
I really love this story. Gamma was the first story mode i finished in Sonic Adventure, and he's always been on my favorite characters. However i have a suggestion based on a hypothesis i made about E-123 Omega. If you're intrested that is, Mr. Scourge.
i loved this one not only does my favorite sonic character survive but he has more development and i can't wait to see what happens next keep up the good work
Now I wish this was canon. I use not to fully understand his story as a kid, as a swedish kid at age 8 and didnt know any english. I was always confused by the whole bird thing. I played Sonic again and become my favorutie again. This is amazing!
anyone remember the girl that sonic interacts with on the beach after falling from the sky? what if that girl is the one that took the picture of the birds and made the pendant for the blue bird. she could be a little enthusiastic with being a photographer and always saw the three birds when she walked out of her house to take pictures. she would be lonely without having friends and the 3 birds could be her first friends she every had. she could always play and interact with them and would take pictures of them. Later through her time she would have moved because her parents wanted to move to have a better life, not being able to see the birds for a long time she made the pendant for them to always remember them and one day see them again.
The Sega Scourge you know your name just got an idea for me What if Scourge appeared in a Sonic Game? Like, escaped prison and somehow got to The main Sonic’s world
One thing only: Beta mkII's weakness seems to be the cylinder that raises once Beta uses his bludgeoning charge. A heat sink, maybe? Anyways... splendid work, man. Keep up the splendid scenario creation.
While Adventure 2 would be fun to see with Gamma, I have a question to ask. Do Androids dream of electric sheep? No, but they probably dream of saving another dimension by playing Mario Party.
But mephiles only existed for a few moments before getting sealed for 10 years. Also when they were split, why didn't iblis and mephiles fuse there instead? It always bothered me
I mean *technically*, Gamma did “survive”. The Archie comics revealed that Omega’s memory chip is actually recycled from Gamma. That’s why Omega was scrapped and abandoned to being with. Eggman wrote Omega off due to being frustrated with the “corruption errors” that Eggman constantly kept encountering. This is because Gamma himself overridden the administrative settings on his memory chip to the point that it was “corrupted” and irreparable.
That made perfect sense, as a huge sa1&2 fan i would love this in a remake, this setas up the perfect E102 stand alone game and you bet your ass i want it, just one thing please add big to that game i think the two have a great dynamic to cultivate, be just right if the interactions are breif and kinda surreal, and they kinhda ambiently and often wordlessly assist eachother, eventually building into a strange and unspoken comeradere. The character that took the picture... Im thinking a wise old echidna that lives secluded in nature, maybe tie in the tribe had the flickys and saw them as spiritual gaurdian protectors that would protect echidnas from bad spirits and destruction. this can come true when the echidna is captured by robotnik when he was fighting badniks who were destroying his forest, and E102 fights off the badniks and saves him from eggdude yada yada, basically i just want more mystic echidnas and more E102 and more big
Honestly, just for the potential comedy of it, I would imagine the birds' owners to be a relative of Eggman, one that's a peaceful guy ashamed of being family to the infamous doctor. (Bonus point if said relative of Eggman look like him.)
Gamma and Alpha Zero should technically be in the same connection, sense Alpha Zero is an E-100 after all so Gamma shouldn’t have powered down. But that’s just a nitpick, keep doing your best!
Wow I love this alternative pathway of Gamma's story! If SA1 ever does get a remake I hope they allow for alternative outcomes and paths for character stories such as this! You are an excellent storyteller by the way! New subscriber! Well thought out, articulated and acted!
Hey Sega Scourge, this was a really good what if and has got me hyped for when Gamma and Omega meet and the grudge match they would have from Omega wanting to destroy all eggman robots and Gamma having his now incomplete destroy all E-series robots but I was wondering if you can do what if sonic had silver's telekinesis instead of his super speed?
Crazy theory, are the Sol emeralds related to Iblis? Think about it, Blaze getting send to another dimension, time reset creating a paradox with said dimension that ends up creating a twin universe/dimension that has Iblis powered jewels. 🤔
To answer those who might be mildly frustrated with me for starting up new what-if stories rather than continuing my existing ones: My intention was never to neglect certain stories - but simply to give my viewers a small and varied selection to enjoy, before continuing with others. Rest assured, I intend to finish *each* and every one of my what-if's. Please see the poll I've just put up on my channel's community-tab to vote for the next Sonic What If you wish to see. Thank you! 💚
Just curious, will there be a third what if about if Sonic never lost his werehog form? I felt like the ending to the 2nd one was an ending but I swear I read somewhere that there was a 3rd.
I am really liking your what if series though.
@@kimzee59 Thank you for watching, glad you're enjoying it :) Werehog Part 3 is in the poll on my channel
@@segascourge ahhh sorry. Must have missed that.
@@kimzee59 It's all good! 🙂
I see. Thank you for addressing the issue at least
Out of the many times I played Adventure 1, I never had thought about just who could have been the owner of the 3 little birds!
Big: dont steal froggy again ok
Gamma: affirmative
The most interesting thing that could happen past this point to me is how this new development might impact the creation of E-123 Omega? After all, Omega was made with Gamma's betrayal completely unknown, and he ended up being too unruly and was locked away with Shadow. But now that Gamma is alive with his betrayal laid bare to Eggman, how might that new info influence Omegas creation? Perhaps he was made as a direct counter to Gamma? How would his turn against Eggman work this time, if Eggman doesn't ensure undying loyalty when programming him, preventing said turn? Could this first betrayal clue him in on other possible betrayals, nipping Metal Sonics plan in the bud? Sonic Heroes will probably get a whole lot more interesting now.
the comics actually go in depth on this. Gamma having a sniperesque showdown in the snowy hills while shadow searches for gamma to recruit to G.U.N, They end up taking Omega back after Gamma transfers his metallic soul to Omega and that's how they justify Sonic Heroes never being a plot in archie sonic
What if Sonic and Blaze switched dimensions at the end of Sonic Rush?
Blaze would be stuck in Sonic's world and Sonic would be stuck in Blaze's dimension.
OMG!! YES
Sonic Colors would be a lot shorter considering that she could destroy Eggman without the help of Wisps
This
Super Blaze could be a real thing
@@hypermetaru8245 Burning Sonic could be cool too.
To this day, E-102 Gamma is still my all-time favorite robot in the Sonic series, with Omega taking up 2nd place. I just loved Gamma's story arc, his road to redemption, and like most of us, I really did break down in tears when he died. It's by far the most emotional piece of Sonic lore ever, and to this day.... I wish there was a way for the true Gamma to return... So seeing this new "What-If" has really gotten me excited, I cannot wait to see where this goes!
I kinda like the idea of them maybe belonging to Cream or Vanilla, as they’re both very caring people and I feel like Cream would be the kind of girl to sentimentally take pictures of her little bird family. Plus (as per the DX versions) Cream is seen in the area so she and Vanilla could possibly live nearby?
I dunno, could add another layer to the story especially if Eggman plans on taking revenge on the traitor. We already know he’s done things when other robots have gone rogue like Metal in Heroes to Rivals/Rivals 2
Don't forget Gemerl
Yes I love this idea!
Cream and Vanilla were the first things that came to mind to, maybe Scourge could make this to how Amy first met the two
Gemrel Has a New friend!
Plus at the end of sonic advance two birds are seen hanging around cream and vanilla's house one is perched on emerald shoulder so there is that two.
Thank you for staying true to Amy's compassionate side. Most people just think she is just Sonic obessed. NO! She has gone out of her way to help others. And she can see the good in people.
Yeah good point but besides that I mainly see her as sonic Abscessed I never heard of that story until I saw it on sonic X it’s an anime by the way just telling you if you don’t know that and I just found This series now
@@lisaandethanc4284 I just looked up the word "abscess." Ew!
The stories are based off the two Sonic Adventure games. Amy shows compassion to a Flicky, Gamma, and even Shadow.
However, Chris took her place in Sonic X.
@@BlackFlash09 I never knew that but I still like Chris A little bit more than Amy but then again that’s just my opinion if your opinion is different I’m not gonna Judge nobodies opinion is right or Wong it’s completely up to you on how you want to View something
@@lisaandethanc4284 Yeah. Sorry, I do resent Chris a lot for stealing scenes from both Amy and Rouge. Amy never got to give her speech to Shadow because of Chris. Chris was given Shadow's inhibitor ring, instead of Rouge. And Shadow only chooses to save Rouge because of Chris on Prison Island.
@@BlackFlash09 good point but I honestly first saw Chris do that stuff first so I honestly perfer Chris prefer speaking instead of Amy or cream because I grew up with knowing that before I knew of what I know now but than again that is just my option
Ideas for Sonic: What If?
the Echidna Tribe survived
Tails never saved himself in Sonic Lost World
Shadow never saved the world in Shadow The Hedgehog
E-102 Gamma never rebelled against Eggman
Retro Hero
I want to see the tails one
What was the Black Arms plan?
The Tails one is a great idea!
Black arms and tails one 👌👌👌
Those are cool ideas!
Names for the birds:
Blue bird: Jay or Sky
White bird: Angel or Coco
Pink bird: Iris or Ruby
android 16: I like the birds
Good Names
Blue bird has a name in the anime Lily
Per Rytterström Thanks :)
Joey Lumbley I didn’t know that actually thanks for telling me
The owner: a kind elderly person who loves baking and knitting (knits Gamma a sweater)
The story we needed to know from one of the most interesting characters out of all Sonic cast. I admit I am one of those who cried at the end of Gamma story.
Its new directive: find home. A journey that could lead Gamma to new places. I can only think of Gamma as a lone protector of the weak, working in the shadows to avoid Eggman's scanning. As for the owner of the birds, Vanilla is probably the best option, giving the background of the photo, but honestly I want a new character in this scenario: something like the new characters we saw in the comics - both IDW series, and Archie's Post-Genesis Wave; how about a family of wolf or pika-like critters?
Some excellent ideas, Miles! I also love that description of "lone protector of the weak" - that really suits the narrative I'm trying to paint for Gamma going forward!
Funny how this suits a lot of eggman's rogue robots.
E 102 gamma touch the hearts of Millions of people who play or hear his story, may e 102 gamma be remembered in our hearts and minds.
I got some ideas:
*Which gemstones are the most powerful
*Are Bean & Jet related?
*Perfect Chaos vs Biolizard
*Are Tikal & Chaos 0 guarding the Master Emerald
*Seaside Hill/Ocean Palace
1: super emeralds
2: probably not
3: Chaos
4: probably
5: probably not in the same place
2) Archie comics explored this idea.
Perfect chaos vs. iblis/ifrit
I'm sMoRt I know.
@william jennings. Biolizard would win as it took super sonic AND super shadow to win and shadow had to turn extra powerful to save the damage
@@liamclaydon3780 that's because the power of the chaos emeralds neutralized chaos. That's not an indication of its standard combat abilities
Edit: plus, the Biolizard's threat was that of the ARK, not of its own power. Shadow could easily handle it alone, as seen ingame.
Personally Gamma's story was my favorite from sonic adventure because it was so different from all the others. I do believe the poor guy should've gotten a better ending and now you've given me the perfect story for Gamma. Thank you so much.
I always just assumed the birds knew how to use a camera.
Holy shoot! I didn’t even think about who made that locket! That’s amazing! On the topic of the bird’s owner, I have an interesting idea. I envision the owner as someone who is one with nature and loves animals, with a calming personality and a soothing voice. As for the birds names, I like the idea of naming them after plants. The white one could be named Snowdrop, The blue one, since he’s a male in the games, could be named Aster, and the pink one named Camellia.
*What if maria and shadow both escaped to planet earth together?*
I wish that could be the case.
@Siper Well, it could be a what if where Maria got that cure as well, and maybe also whatever anti-aging thing Shadow has.
Oh my God we need this video.
@Siper Well what if she was put in stasis.
Maria would be used as a means to control shadow by GUN
What if idea:
What if Blaze and Sonic swapped roles?
I saw fan art of this scenario before, but I really hope you can delve into it further.
How would Blaze’s serious personality affect those around her, especially Tails?
How would Amy behave without Sonic to obsess over? Would she fall in love with Shadow?
And what about Silver? Assuming Blaze is labeled as The Iblis Trigger, would Silver hesitate to kill out of romantic feelings?
And Sonic definitely doesn’t seem like prince or sacred gem guard material. Perhaps he would run off and try to dodge responsibility?
What a lovely idea. I'd certainly watch that, but it'll probably be the longest "What if?" season.
That sounds fun.
No one gonna talk about how on point Scourge’s impressions are
22:26
THANK YOU; I HAVE HAD THAT QUEATION IN MY MIND FOR YEARS!!
I'm glad I wasn't the only one!!
hmmm I never noticed it if I did then *Ⓨ Same*
That Gamma voice-effect though
I must know its secrets
17:59 Because Gamma is running Windows 98 SE
I was watching one of your what ifs and then this happened yeeeeeeeeesssss also I have an ideas
1. What if Maria survived
2. What if Shadow actually was an android
3. What if Sonic never met knuckles
4. What if Shadow Died at the end of SA2
lmao if shadow actually DIED in sa2 literally nothing would happen other then heroes having much less of an impact and mephiles taking the form of a different character instead of shadow.
Mody Osman sorry i couldn’t think of any thing else
@@omnisystem6030 you may as well just not put it in the comment
Mody Osman ok I know
Then there would be another character added on the list of Sega's characters with potential who sadly, only show up once (Emerl/Gemerl, yellow Shadow Android, Shade the Nocturnus, Illumina, Void, Lumina, Tikal, Marine, Bean, Fang, Bark, Infinite, Emperator Ix, the Deadly Six (all of them) , Neo Metal Sonic...)
E-Series: Robot Masters
Gamma: X
Pretty much 👀
Eggman: Sigma (maybe idk much Abt MegaMan X yet)
Where's what if Sonic lost his memory part 2
Edit: Gamma is still the best though
Same
yea i'm waiting for that video too
yeah
Still waiting
Please see the pinned comment 🙏
The owner could be named Nick, he would be caring, kind and would always try to help/heal his fellow animals, but also plant, he would first be a little afraid of Gamma and would warm up to him, seeing his as caring and kind as him, but also a little clumsy
Why Nick: this is a reference of the name of the prototype of sonic, he was named nick and his love interests was named Emy, which was prononce Amy
I absolutely love the bits where you are acting as Gamma, you replicated the voice perfectly!
looking forward to gamma's interactions with omega (if he's around during sonic heroes)
names:
blue birb: Sapphire
pink birb: Ruby
white birb: Tim
Assuming omega dose not destroy gamma on sight
@@goldenboybenny7511 :|
These videos are so well written.
Thank you. *I try* :')
Dude, amazing rewrite! And you do a good impression of SA1-SH Eggman!
I think the birds could've belonged to Professor Pickle (i.e. excuse to be in Unleashed and/or why Eggman was so tame with the Professor when he kidnapped him), Ray, Mighty or someone close to where the birds could've been abducted. (However, Eggman had kangaroos and other exotic animals in the robots, so they could've been taken from anywhere).
If I were to name the birds, I'd take inspiration from the parakeets I used to have: (Sweet, Sour, Spicy (the birds were bought in pairs))
Blue- Razz (Blue Raspberry) or Mizu/Mochi
White- Parfait or Daifuku
Pink- Uirō
I guess you would want to have a theme with them, Sonic X suggested flowers bc Amy named 'Lily.' I'd assume their names would be indicative of where they came from.
This is great! Gamma was always one of my favorite parts of SA1 so its cool seeing him get some more spotlight. I'm excited how Gamma reacts to seeing Omega once this What-If gets to Sonic Heroes!
I don’t know how long "What If" series is going to be in the future, but hopefully I can find some time to make some artwork for this projects as well, because I love these videos so much c:
I plan to continue the series indefinitely - and that would be wonderful man ✨ Thanks for your support
Dude if SEGA needs help with new ideas, they should be calling you. This is like an alternate history with Sonic the Hedgehog, and I LOVE that
You're honestly too kind! I'm thrilled you love the series!
Have I ever told you how much I LOVE your E-102 Gamma voice?
Because I do.
THANK YOU! I honestly can't wait to do his voice more 🙏🙏
Dude, you're one of the best "what if" theorist I've ever seen! Seriously, this theory makes so much sense and if that would be the ending to Gamma story, we could get a separate game, where our favourite robot is a main character!
Also, for a second I thought that Tails will rebuild Beta, so the bird could be transferred to him. Then he would create different power source for Gamma and we would have both of them alive. But you explained this very well and I think that Beta's remains was too damaged to rebuild him.
Oh, and I would LOVE to see part 2 of it and what impact on history of later games Gamma would have. Especially in Sonic Battle, where he would met his another version: Chaos Gamma.
Sorry for such a long comment, but I could not stay silent. You did such a good job with it. Thank you for creating this "what if" that bringed one of my favourite characters of all time back to life. Sorry if I made any language mistakes in this comment and have a nice day!
Thank you for the kind words of motivation, Exenom! I'm glad you enjoyed this Gamma story as much as I did writing it! Rest assured, Part 2 will be very unexpected and exciting 😊
Just one Correction: Chaos Gamma would not exist since that it is confirmed that Eggman assembled him with disassembled E-100 Series' remains(Gamma's) and was planning to build 'entirely' different Robots as we saw on Gimmet Shelter, and that is probably where E-123 Omega was created too. But if Chaos Gamma were to be assembled, Eggman would Use Parts From the Other Destroyed E-100 Series Robots.
SEGA really should have you be the voice of Eggman in the Sonic Adventure remake, because you do an excellent impression of his voice actor from SA1, SA2, Sonic Heroes, and Sonic Advance 3!
I didn't think my impression was *that* good! haha 😁 Thank you for the encouragement! I try my best!
@@segascourge you're welcome, dude! Keep up the good work with the What If's!
Admittedly I wanted the next what if to be a continuation of What if Sonic kept the Warehog form. But as a huge fan of Gamma I won't deny that this has caught my attention and you've really helped me to be engaged. This is also the first what if that starts at the beginning of the 3d francize where story centric Sonic games took place. I'm most certainly looking forward to his role in Sonic Adventure 2 and his possible interaction with Omega.
Werehog Part 3 *will* come - it's already being worked on too! But I'm glad this Gamma what-if kept you hooked!
@@segascourge
I see, that is nice to hear. I just hope you'll be able to figure out a way to get these what ifs out faster without sacrificing the quality. Cause waiting a month per what if is pretty hard given how good you make them.
@@golork3267 That's the problem, I'm only one guy. :'(
Scripting takes the longest - so perhaps I could find stand-in scripters to help with future episodes; whilst I work on editing. I'm considering all kinds of things to help boost the speed and high-quality production of this Sonic What If series!
@@segascourge
Well Sega Scourge, I certainly hope you succeed. Cause hot damn you got Masako-X level story telling if not better in some cases.
@@golork3267 You're TOO kind!
this is the biggest example of the butterfly effect. one small thing can let an entire creature live
A great what if for a great sonic character, well done!
Also, you absolutely nailed it with your eggman impression.
Yes!!! Another what if bringing back an underrated robot for SEGA. To me, gamma is such a robot some can relate to. Choosing between doing what's right even if it may cost him he's life. Not only that it almost destroyed me to see him return as a enemy again when I was younger. I happy to see if possible. Gamma would be a part of your other what if series. Like, him interacting with emerl, or sonic losing his memory, or even seeing sonic turn into a werehog. There's a ENDLESS amount of POSSIBLITYLIES for this beloved character revival. Oh yeah, one thing that almost slipped my mind is him encountering another one of eggman's robots turn good, he's younger brother omega.
Quartz the Gray Bird. The very first thing that got in my head. I'll update this post if i come up with the names for the others.
Update: Dawn the Pink Bird and Aurora the Blue Bird. I really love giving names to characters. I usually spend quite a lot of time doing this.
And about the video. While i didn't read how Archie revived Gamma, i can see that you did a great job at creating your own au that even makes sense to be canon. Theorycrafting is my other favourite thing to do besides giving names to things, and watching your videos before sleep really helps. BRB, gonna sub.
What if: the teams in Sonic Heroes teams were the originally intended ones?
_Give me the little bird_ *GIVE ME THE LITTLE BIRD*
*NO WAY*
He got the right idea we’re having flickie stew tonight!
All right I have a bunch of great ideas for Sonic rewrites, but I’m just gonna list ten.
1: what if Eggman died in Sonic Lost World?
2: what if Silver died at the end of 06?
3: what if Chaos never turned evil?
4: what if Metal Sonic rebelled against Eggman, but in a good way?
5: what if the commander died in Shadow the Hedgehog?
6: what if Infinite redeemed himself in Forces?
7: what if Mephiles was the villain in Generations?
8: what if Rouge went with Knuckles to angel island after Adventure 2 (knuckles x rouge)
9: what if Shadow came back, but with his memory still intact?
And finally 10: what if Sonic and or Shadow never came back after Adventure 2? (You can do both if you want)
I like 4 6 and 7 if mephiles was the villain they need to explain why he is backing mephiles was the main villain of sonic generation. And if infinite redeem himself then he would reveal to the whole cast that he is tails not the same tails from the whole series but mania tails from sonic mania.
I'm not crying -- it's these damn onions 😥😥
I wouldn't even be able to imagine their owner in-depth (though an elderly woman comes to mind, for some reason) but as for their names, knowing the Sonic universe the way I do, their names likely have a theme for all three collectively. Like, they'd be named after colors; specifically related to their plumage. That's all I got 🤷♀️
17:45 I love that line so much.
Same. 😁 I really loved getting the chance to voice Gamma
This series so interesting, each one is different and cool.
Still waiting for the espio what if though lol
What if Mecha Sonic returned, and turned good? Mecha Boi needs to come back.
Gamma should like fuse their bodies with Omega and commit its life freeing all of eggman robots (and stopping Eggman). Becoming the mighty "Gamega", a fused E-Series. Having the determination of Omega and the kindness of Gamma, he won't I feel like he could help shadow during his "Am I the real shadow?" phase in heroes by telling him (or Rouge) he is the real shadow earlier on when they first see a shadow android.
And reason 3 why the pink bird went into Gamma. *Revenge*
Also you are surprisingly good at eggman’s voice
Aww Great job! i just love Gamma.. He is so precious
Thank you, Eliane! *And agreed!* 🙏
The answer of the question: Android 16
- I LOVE NATURE
I kinda have a suggestion.
What if metal sonic turned good?
It could possibly take place after sonic heroes where after metal's defeat, when omega and shadow exchange looks, they decided to take metal to fix him and see if they could join G.U.N. After metal's fixed, he tried to destroy everyone, but omega stopped him. Then omega is tasked to watch metal. During their time together, omega would try to teach metal right and wrong. Metal learns over time and slowly becomes a better bot. He would still hate sonic, but he would want to defeat eggman as his main priority. And his abilities would have been useful during some of the future games.
"defend" eggman? was that a typo?
@@modelomegatyler yes.
@@pokebound6611 maybe fix it then?
Here's an idea: What if Sonic Forces never happened. Like really what if the Resistance never formed, and Eggman conquered the remaining 1% of the world?
I love all your what if’s so far there amazing I always wondered what if the echidnas tribe survived and how it would changes knuckles through out the series.
I was also heart broken when gamma died next to his brother.. I was in tears.. Ngl
😭😭😭
This is actually really pleasant.
Gamma is such a well written character and despite only ever playing SADX his story always make's me feel.
-When playing Lonesome Road was the second time I felt for a machine.-
Now question is, what would Gamma think of his other Brother. Would he challenge Omega as they are a member of his Series.
That voice modulator is freaking perfect
Gamma is such a historically great sonic character 🥺
This might be a long shot, but maybe in subsequent parts of this we could actually see more of the E-Series robots, Eggman specifically making them to either capture or destroy Gamma, culminating in Omega,perhaps being even more powerful than what we got.
Idea for the Werehog what-if: Perhaps Amy could play a larger role in Sonic's life? I was wondering what would happen if Amy saw Sonic in such a state when playing Unleashed. Maybe ironically Sonic's best help will come from the one he's always pushed away?
But Amy was IN Sonic Unleashed. She know hos he looks in that Form.
I'm really glad that someone, especially a youtube user, remembers E-102 Gamma recognizing him as a character that does belong to the official Sonic chronology, and I'm also glad that he used a little of his time to create this video, That for me was something that surprised me and at the same time it surprised me since it shows Gamma's life if he had survived and your anecdote was very well constructed, thank you very much for taking this undervalued character into account: ')
This... is really good. I DEMAND MORE!
I'm now going through all your what ifs to get ready for your return.
Aw, that's awesome, dude.
I always enjoy these when they come out. Keep it up and don't worry about releasing them in a certain way
Thank you 😭
Thank god your doing this theory gamma is kinda like my favorite being a robot who rebel against egg man and became good and save his fellow robots and the animals powering them up. I'm glad your doing Sega Scourge thank you
Edit: since your doing a what if theory of "what if E-102 Gamma survive" could you think that if the bird inside of gamma finally heals and leaves gamma, gamma will still operate because it manages to scan a bit of memories from the bird and gamma doesn't need any power source to live because gamma's own free will has given him the exact unlimited power source that he needed it to survive think about it
He was cloned in Sonic Adventure 2, but his left hand was replaced by another gun.
I really love this story. Gamma was the first story mode i finished in Sonic Adventure, and he's always been on my favorite characters.
However i have a suggestion based on a hypothesis i made about E-123 Omega. If you're intrested that is, Mr. Scourge.
I. AM. INTRIGUED. MORE!
Eggman knowing about Gamma
Gamma interacting with the other characters
There is potential here
I think so too! I've got some great ideas set up for Part 2 - I can't wait to work on the next one
@@segascourge like the owner of the birds being Vanilla and Cream? Or maybe a human?
@@knuxuki1013 Chris?
i loved this one not only does my favorite sonic character survive but he has more development and i can't wait to see what happens next keep up the good work
This is really good! Everyone is in character and its believable! Please continue with this!
Now I wish this was canon. I use not to fully understand his story as a kid, as a swedish kid at age 8 and didnt know any english. I was always confused by the whole bird thing. I played Sonic again and become my favorutie again. This is amazing!
Thank you! I'm beyond-happy that you liked this story enough to wish it was canon!
@@segascourge you did a great job! Gamma is my favorite and have a soft spot for robots. It dose make me wanna draw relate to this story!
You do a really good Gamma impression!
anyone remember the girl that sonic interacts with on the beach after falling from the sky? what if that girl is the one that took the picture of the birds and made the pendant for the blue bird. she could be a little enthusiastic with being a photographer and always saw the three birds when she walked out of her house to take pictures. she would be lonely without having friends and the 3 birds could be her first friends she every had. she could always play and interact with them and would take pictures of them. Later through her time she would have moved because her parents wanted to move to have a better life, not being able to see the birds for a long time she made the pendant for them to always remember them and one day see them again.
This is going to be SO Good! I can’t wait to see what happens next
At this point we're gonna make a
What if... Scourge actually continues one of his what if's
Now *that's* a crazy What If!
The Sega Scourge you know your name just got an idea for me
What if Scourge appeared in a Sonic Game? Like, escaped prison and somehow got to The main Sonic’s world
One thing only: Beta mkII's weakness seems to be the cylinder that raises once Beta uses his bludgeoning charge. A heat sink, maybe? Anyways... splendid work, man. Keep up the splendid scenario creation.
That's a pretty fascinating notion that I never noticed! Thank you, Archer! 👊
@@segascourge You're welcome! Keep up the good work!
While Adventure 2 would be fun to see with Gamma, I have a question to ask.
Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
No, but they probably dream of saving another dimension by playing Mario Party.
What if mephiles wasn't trapped in the scepter of darkness? Would he have been good or still be evil?
He was always evil.
They are ancient twin spirits intertwined as one.
But mephiles only existed for a few moments before getting sealed for 10 years. Also when they were split, why didn't iblis and mephiles fuse there instead? It always bothered me
If you want to know that outcome, watch lord Danny's video on that.
I mean *technically*, Gamma did “survive”. The Archie comics revealed that Omega’s memory chip is actually recycled from Gamma. That’s why Omega was scrapped and abandoned to being with. Eggman wrote Omega off due to being frustrated with the “corruption errors” that Eggman constantly kept encountering. This is because Gamma himself overridden the administrative settings on his memory chip to the point that it was “corrupted” and irreparable.
We need this story to be remade. Partly because now, things like the scrapnicks exist
Funny enough, I just beat SA1 and got attached to Gamma right now as of making the comment. Convenient that you made this right now
Perfect timing!
That made perfect sense, as a huge sa1&2 fan i would love this in a remake, this setas up the perfect E102 stand alone game and you bet your ass i want it, just one thing please add big to that game i think the two have a great dynamic to cultivate, be just right if the interactions are breif and kinda surreal, and they kinhda ambiently and often wordlessly assist eachother, eventually building into a strange and unspoken comeradere. The character that took the picture... Im thinking a wise old echidna that lives secluded in nature, maybe tie in the tribe had the flickys and saw them as spiritual gaurdian protectors that would protect echidnas from bad spirits and destruction. this can come true when the echidna is captured by robotnik when he was fighting badniks who were destroying his forest, and E102 fights off the badniks and saves him from eggdude yada yada, basically i just want more mystic echidnas and more E102 and more big
i saw it was sonic's right hand that was being offered for the handshake. I was thinking Gamma would hold up his gun hand, remarking 'wrong hand'.
I thought i was the final one who remembered the legend of Gamma.
I'm really liking these "What if" videos, I kind of want to do one myself
So Gamma is Android 16?
"I have waited oh so long"
-"please don't tell me baby, I was wrong" 😂😂😂
@@segascourge "Dreaming of you every night"
What if sonic died in forces ?
we won't have another game
@@Mat_yup it's a what if idea ._.
@Casswury 😂😂
Amy kisses him with the 7 Chaos Emeralds to resurrect him.
ThanatosZero ._.
NO
Damn these tears of mines, it’s the quality of the video I swear😭😭😭
The SA Eggman voice impression is uncanny
😊😊😊
I suspect Eggman is going to take extra precautions to ensure his creations don't betray him like Metal Sonic.
Honestly, just for the potential comedy of it, I would imagine the birds' owners to be a relative of Eggman, one that's a peaceful guy ashamed of being family to the infamous doctor. (Bonus point if said relative of Eggman look like him.)
Gamma and Alpha Zero should technically be in the same connection, sense Alpha Zero is an E-100 after all so Gamma shouldn’t have powered down. But that’s just a nitpick, keep doing your best!
Wow I love this alternative pathway of Gamma's story! If SA1 ever does get a remake I hope they allow for alternative outcomes and paths for character stories such as this! You are an excellent storyteller by the way! New subscriber! Well thought out, articulated and acted!
Thanks, Manual!
Hey Sega Scourge, this was a really good what if and has got me hyped for when Gamma and Omega meet and the grudge match they would have from Omega wanting to destroy all eggman robots and Gamma having his now incomplete destroy all E-series robots but I was wondering if you can do what if sonic had silver's telekinesis instead of his super speed?
The voice lines you add are a really nice touch!
What will Gamma do if he meets E123-Omega?
He is an E Series Robot,will Gamma fight Omega?
Perhaps! 👋
@@segascourge I imagine that Omega would reach a Stalemate with Gamma
Crazy theory, are the Sol emeralds related to Iblis? Think about it, Blaze getting send to another dimension, time reset creating a paradox with said dimension that ends up creating a twin universe/dimension that has Iblis powered jewels.
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