A Transformers trend started in 2007 with Bumblebee has had fans hoping that the little Autobot scout would stop losing his voice? The question is, should it come to an end? Be sure to check out some of my other videos as well! Mirage Retrospective: ruclips.net/video/ko-MNi_lBPs/видео.html Insecticons Retrospective: ruclips.net/video/ycONJKOBOXU/видео.html
Maybe at the end of the 07 film he was still using the radio and maybe the reason he can talk in the last night he got hit in the neck a bunch and activated his voice box for a while
I mean, the "radio talk" can be used humorously which is pretty great at times, but Bumblebee does deserve his own voice. Hopefully they'll find a way to bring back Bumblebee's voice in the new Transformers movies, if the Bumblebee movie does get a sequel that is.
Fingers crossed that it does. The first three minutes alone was better than most of the Bay-verse, and I wouldn't complain if Hailee Steinfeld reprised her role. Plus, the Cybertronion design was such a glowup.
@@HexenkoeniginVonAngmar True, it'll vary between continuities. I just personally prefer when he has lost his voice in a continuity, and gets to experience and build on his own character with that. Assuming that he gets his voice back, it still leaves for a lot of character development there. I still appreciate versions of Bumblebee that have voices, they've got their own charm to them. I just, personally like the character ark when he looses his voice.
In the first film Optimus said that his voice module thingy was damaged and Ratchet needed to get around to fix it. What have they done for the next 5 films? Absolutely nothing. Not even that but Ratched was seen fighting more than healing or repairing and that's because he was literally never seen repairing even though Optimus said he was the team's medic.
Here’s my view on it. It was kinda cute in the first few movies (ignoring the inconsistency with the ending of the first film) and it worked in Prime, because it created and interesting dynamic between the team, with Ratchet feeling guilty about not being able to fix it, Smokescreen not understanding why it still bothered Bumblebee, and him not being able to communicate with most of the humans, and the buzzing wasn’t annoying. But in Cyberverse, when they went back to the radio talking thing, it was annoying because it wasn’t actually anything from a radio, it was just a bunch of fake commercials. And it didn’t even make sense. Since he could talk on the Arc
@@matthewreynoso6904 Not really I am a huge fans of the movies yet back then I would watch the first 3 movies (this was before age of extinction) the first 3 part episodes of Animated (I only had a 3 pack) And would watch Prime and G1 on Netflix when it was on there also Beast Wars
@@matthewreynoso6904 I'm rewatching G1 at the moment, after finally getting the DVD box set. it brings back memories watching it as a kid in the evening when it was on with a bowl of coco pops...ah...were dose the time go
In prime, I thought it was a great decision to have Bee lose his voice. It accomplished three core things for the character: 1. It meant his connection to Raph was deeper and more personal, as Raph came from a large family where he never felt heard. 2. It makes Bee seem more venerable. His wound is a constant reminder that he can be hurt and lose things. Megatron removed his means of communication and expression, damaging his relationship to the rest of the world. 3. The buzzing noise was an easy way to make him endearing and explain how he got his name. It's miles better than the radio talking, as cool as the idea seems. (Bumblebee 2018 did a good job with it though) I think it's a core part of his character now, but if it is gonna be done, it has to be done tastefully and with relevance to his character, not just because thats how he is now.
Optimus Prime SP I would’ve been lazy because how the heck would Kade know how to do this but it would’ve still been better if Kade modified the voice box from the beginning of the movie
@@SertQuos He can technically talk, but it's not easy for him as you can see in the scenes where he does, that's why he preffers using radio and movie dialogue.
@@HIsForHawk That a Pretty Good Explanation! I Can See Where The Writers Were Trying To Go With.But Although I Like The Bayverse Transformers Films But As The Sequels Went On That When Bay Lost His Damm Mind. Aside From That I Wish There Was a Live Action TV Version of The Show That Is Combination of Both The G1 Era And The Bayverse Films And As For The Voice of Bummblebee I Wish Jason Faunt Would Voice Bee And As For His Car Mode I Would Go For A Volkswagen Golf Sport (2 Door) Because It Will Make An Amazing Redesign of His Look In G1.
as you've said, the fact he PHISICALLY lost his voice TWICE and somehow talk again was a complete plot hole just here to make him more like a pet for the main characters...
I personally like the Mute Bee, I understand that he should have his voice back and I'm totally fine with that. However, him being mute gives him a sort of quirk. So we could empathize with him They probably also thought that it'll give him a sort of r2d2 appeal with him mostly going for high pitched boop beep sounds. But yes, at the end of the day, I'm fine and happy whether or not he has voice.
Larkin's Lair I have to disagree with you, I like how Bumblebee has to convey complex emotion with his facial experience instead of his voice in the Movies like the other Transformers, The whole talking though the radio thing is really cool and interesting I never seen it done before, 🐝 Thank you for reading.🙏
Although his being mute makes for an interesting story aspect, its kind of hard to believe that a highly advanced technological lifeform would have a problem synthesizing speech. Especially if he can still play sounds on the radio. And if my smartphone can talk to me then there's no reason a transformer should not be able to. Although the movie would have a different feel if bumblebee had Siri's voice. 😄
Should *Bumblebee always lose his voice? No. It's an annoying trope that only kind of worked well once, and when it did, it wasn't even in a Transformers movie.
Honesty, I like the plot of Bee losing his voice. He always gets it back, even though it isn’t always explained. But for the Bumblebee movie, I was hoping for his voice. But knowing the other series’, he’ll eventually get his voice back in sequels.
Bumblebee losing his voice has been done to death, as have the jokes around it. And it was only done decently three times: Prime utilized it much better than the movie that spawned it, but other than some communication issues didn't use it to handicap the character much. And when he DID get his voice back, it was epic. Cyberverse treating it as an effect of his amnesia and a bit of PTSD. The Bumblebee movie 1) actually showed how it happened as part of his backstory and 2) used it better story wise and humor wise (communication misunderstandings) and used it to help the bonding between him and Charlie. PS: Ratchet making entirely meta jokes about it happening AGAIN in Fall of Cybertron is funny as heck, but that's about as far as the jokes need to go. Hasbro needs to stop falling back on this quirk just because they can.
SwiftpawWolffox I have to disagree with you, I like how Bumblebee has to convey complex emotion with his facial experience instead of his voice in the Movies like the other Transformers, The whole talking though the radio thing is really cool and interesting I never seen it done before, 🐝 Thank you for reading.🙏
So me having Aspergers is a quirk? So my brother being non verbally autistic is a quirk too? So you're also saying that we should just stop being the way we were born then? Are you also saying that my brother, who loves bumblebee to death, shouldn't have his character relate to him?
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv I have aspergers too, but you dont see me getting offended by a comment. Also, I loved Bee in Prime,Other wise i just like bee in the other shows (I haven't seen cyberverse), and He reminded me of my own struggles as a kid, when I was having trouble communicating with others that weren't my immediate family.
Anyway they ended up bringing Frank back for TF4 and 5. And even thought Galvatron and Megatron were totally wasted characters, at least Frank did a good job with what they gave him
I prefer Bumblebee having a voice. I actually remember I wrote a fan script at one point, which had a scene where Bumblebee's voice box was damaged by Circuit Breaker, only to heal later on. Just a subtle nod, while maintaining the classic motif. Also, in that screenplay, I made it a point not to put him in the heat of combat like the other movies. He does provide some support in fights, and defends himself when attacked, but he's a scout first and foremost
sailorstarlightmoon I have to disagree with you, I like how Bumblebee has to convey complex emotion with his facial experience instead of his voice in the Movies like the other Transformers, The whole talking though the radio thing is really cool and interesting I never seen it done before, 🐝 Thank you for reading.🙏
Yes, he looks like Prowl, and "the Streaks", but also his personslity in the movies I think is more like Sideswipe's, who also had a Camaro altmode in 2001, and also he had really similar head with the round eyes with the visor-like parts, those sideparts with the vents, the faceplate, the horns, and that middle part on the top of his head(Silverstreak also had that form), and that whole talking through radio thing was used for Wreck-Gar originally, as well as those spiky wheel thingies he had in tf4.Also, he's too big.But he's yellow at least, so there's that.
Jon Gauthier I have to disagree with you, I like how Bumblebee has to convey complex emotion with his facial experience instead of his voice in the Movies like the other Transformers, The whole talking though the radio thing is really cool and interesting I never seen it done before, 🐝 Thank you for reading.🙏
I hate how grown adults constantly complain about a child centered character in a toyline having a disability is the absolute worst thing to ever occur.
Great video for discussion, but it's a simple answer. No. It was a bad idea then and it's a bad idea now. The whole Wreck Gar-esque radio voice worked well for a quirky Junkion...but not at all for a main character
Paty O’s - And that’s largely because there was an actual arc to the concept (same as in “Bumblebee”) instead of “wouldn’t it be funny if he used random pop songs to talk?” And the ending, where he gets his voice back was done so beautifully.
I grew up with g1 and prime but I always preferred his beeping, it was endearing and a pleasant juxtaposition to his warrior-like appearance (in his recent adaptations). But I do think it’s a shame that mute Bee is seemingly canon now.
I'm kind of half and half on that. I like Optimus with his face plate, but I like what they did in Prime, too. I like the idea that he can retract it when he wants to. I liked seeing more expression on his face. I just don't like the way they did it in the live action films. He frowned too much.
@@nickzilla20 A little bit yeah. Maybe they just need the right kind of design for him...not that I could find it. I'm barely a passable artist myself but mecha of that sort are soooo hard to draw! I've been struggling bad. Straight lines are my enemy! That aside . . . I wonder if for those who prefer the mask be permanent there could be a compromise. Optimus's battle mask isn't permanent, but what if he had some kind of disfiguring injury that made him uncomfortable showing his face, so he keeps it on? Or maybe it's an outward sign of his grief when he thought he lost Elita? It could even be a mix of both? Either way, there has to be a way. The artistry and technology of today is so incredible. I'm sure they could figure something out.
I feel like it's a matter of what they do with it and actually letting him have his voice once he gets it back. His muteness affects multiple relationships in Prime, and it does have story consequences. When he finally speaks and doesn't even realize it is such a perfect moment; it shows that he was talking the whole time he just couldn't be understood. It really works because he kept his voice through the movie and the next series. When his muteness is just the background for a joke or it doesn't actually affect any of the characters, then it feels like a crutch to avoid giving him more personality.
Now that Knightverse is a reboot, they really outta fix the voice box to distance itself from Bayverse. We saw Blitzwing rip it off and throw it on the side of the mountain. So let's say Sector 7 picked it up and have the Autobots get it back. Ratchet can adjust it back and boom, voice is back!
I want the Sequel to Last Knight to still happen & have Bumblebee with his voice participate in the final battle against Quintessa & Unicron! Let the crappy Bumblebee Movie be a prequel to the flawed Bayverse rather than the start of what will probably be a worse movieverse than Bay directed! We don't need a 2nd Movie Universe where Bumblebee loses his voice!
Caye Daws "does it work as a continuing storyline?" "Yes" "Does it have a large array of characters at its disposal, a lot of which barely see the light of day?" "Yes" "Is it a recognizable brand that can also have entertaining action?" "Yes" "Then it can be a cinematic universe." Unfortunately only two transformers movies so far have been made with the purpose of being in an extended universe (TLK and BB) and neither have had sequels yet. Otherwise every other film has been made with the purpose of just being its own film, except for DOTM which was intended to be a complete conclusion to a movie trilogy. This is why Megatron keeps coming back from the dead only to be a secondary villain.
Nope, he needs a voice. It was okay at first in the one Bay movie, after that it was just ridiculous. Even then, it was kind of silly since it probably would have been an easy enough fix. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ so, just give him back his dang voice!!!! Enough is enough!
Godzilla guy 54 while you're at it give my autistic brother a voice too. Give me and my social anxiety ridden, Aspergers ass the ability to talk to people and make friends IRL. Give Beethoven the ability to hear back, Lance Armstrong his testicle so he can have children, go back in time and make Steven Hawking not paralyzed so he can live a normal life and not have lived it in a wheelchair with an artificial voice. Wait, what do you mean it doesn't work like that? Disabilities don't just go away? Damn, you got my hopes up dude.
I grew up with the Michael Bay movies and mute Bumblebee, so at first I was so used to him with a voice hearing him with one was weird to me. But after rewatching the g1 show I like him a lot more with a voice.
I still kind of want that Last Knight Sequel as a Final Bay Universe Movie where Bumblebee keeps his voice that he gets back for the final battle against Quintessa & Unicron. Also I want the crappy Bumblebee movie to be the prequel to the 2007 movie. We don't need another movie universe where he loses his voice.
I didn't mind him not having his voice in the '07 movie, especially since he got it back in the end. Him not having his voice for long periods of times literately doesn't make sense. They can repair most damage, but not the voice box. Doesn't make sense. All versions of bumblebee should have their voice
@023 Studios TF Prime isn't a sequel to the live action movie. And he did get his voice back right before killing Megatron. And having a biological mechanism doesn't make sense. Just saying its too advanced just means lazy writing, understandable for a show for kids whose primary purpose is to sell toys, but still lazy
I like how in the fall of cybertron video game on the first mission wen u play as bumblebee, when ratchet is checking him over he says "his voice chip is still crushed, nothing new there then" a subtle nod to the 2007 movie
I agree, I want ‘Bee to speak again. Off topic, why did Bay think Welker wasn’t a good choice for Megatron? He IS Megatron in my books! The clip of him speaking Weaving’s line in the first film sounds perfectly fine. Gah! I’ll never understand that man. Bay I mean, not Frank Welker.
Honestly I was marginal on the original G1 Bumblebee but the character grew on me! I think the Bee needs his voice not a radio & if they're so bent on using radio speak, let us be reintroduced to the Junkions. As to why Welker wasn't used 1st in the Bayverse (aside from them being misinformed) was 2 fold: the star power of Weaving & supposedly Welker's voice hadn't aged well. And my reply to that Mr. Bay is, your franchise hasn't aged well!
U should do a video about the live action movies having more G1 based designs. I personally LOVED that change they made for the bumblebee movie I mean I ACTUALLY RECOGNIZED a lot of the bots in that opening sequence on cybertron EDIT: OMG Rhodimus Primal likes my comment EDIT 2: that was a fanboy joke to everyone who didn’t get it, or just everyone, I’ve got a weird sense of humor
I related to Bumblebee so much as a kid, he was a witty smart ass that often messed things up but he learned from his mistakes and eventually respected the wisdom of his fellow more experienced autobots. His voice was a big part of the character. The radio talk is clever and fun but it shouldn't define who he is, get on it Rachet!
I wanna say no, because while it is a REALLY good concept to show how much the war can physically and mentally scar a character. I do think that this shouldn't be Bumblebee's constant character trait, especially since the idea of Bumblebee not having a voice came from the 2007 Transformer's movie and has pretty much stayed since. Which again, isn't a bad concept it works, especially with how well it was written in his character in TFP and Bumblebee (2018). But at this point I think that Bumblebee being voice impaired/mute should really only be done if it affects the overall story and helps him grow as a character. But at the same time try to avoid overusing the same idea because by that point it becomes overuse and stale. I think there should be future shows, games, movies that do feature a mute Bumblebee just as much as a verbal Bumblebee. There should be a balance between the two as long as the execution is done right.
I've always loved the first Bumblebee and the way he was in the original cartoon I just can't accept much after that, I do not understand why it is so important to change or reboot or destroy the things we enjoyed
Scottlen Miller woah woah woah! Destory!? You mean I can't go into my closet and pull out all my G1 cartoon DVDs and watch them because the big mean ole Mike has completely destroyed any remains of it on earth!? Oh wait no, they're still there, able to be watched and enjoyed any time I please to do so. From the beginning all the way to the end of the cartoon. That's how it seems to be for all transformers shows in fact, as each new show has a new version of the characters as the old one has concluded and it doesn't make sense to just repeat the same story or constantly add new characters that are different from the old ones, yet still so similar that they're just almost the same. It's also not like I absolutely have to watch Transformers content that has done something to the characters that I don't like or disagree with. So uh... what's the problem?
Bumblebee is my absolute favorite Transformer next to Optimus Prime. That's one of the problems I had with the Bay movie when he wasn't his Volkswagen bug self and when he couldn't speak.
I was introduced to Transformers through the Prime show. To me, Bumblebee not talking is cute and nice disability representation, and I'm just used to it, but I can understand how it's being overdone. It actually took me a while to get used to him talking.
I grew up with the 2007 Bumblebee, he was always my favorite and I like how him being mute standed out more, but they are kinda over using it, I don’t mind if it’s for the Movies and Transformers Prime for how it impacted the story of the show, but yeah
Omega Maximus I have to disagree with you, I like how Bumblebee has to convey complex emotion with his facial experience instead of his voice in the Movies like the other Transformers, The whole talking though the radio thing is really cool and interesting I never seen it done before, 🐝 Thank you for reading.🙏
Awesome and informative video RP, I 100% agree about the negative impact of the bumblebee keeps on losing his voice trope. Bumblebee should absolutely not always lose his voice. It's a trope that pissed me off the moment it began. Didn't help that the trope began with the first bayformers movie. I never understood why it became a trend, it added nothing to his character to have him talking throttle radio. I preferred in G1 where bumblebee had a voice and talked normally, it helped give him personality and individuality. I was disappointed that the bumblebee movie continued the trend but it was part of the studio plan to have the movie be a prequel to the bayformers movies
Yeah I'm hoping we still get the Final Bayformer Universe movie & that Bumblebee gets to keep his voice for most of it. I hated that crappy Bumblebee Movie & want it to stay a prequel to Bayformers! After the Final Battle with Quintessa & Unicron, we should get a reboot where Bumblebee never loses his voice!
WaterKirby1994 well there friend. It is clear we have very different views on the Michael bay transformers movies. I absolutely despise them and you seem not to. Nothing wrong with that, the world would be a less interesting place if we all had the same opinions on things. Naturally I have no desire to see the cliffhanger to the last knight resolved as I never felt Bay was a good fit for transformers as I don't think he has an adequate appreciation of the source material and his vision of what transformers should be has never ever appealed to me. I'm not a fan of his other films or his directorial style in general. Personally I enjoyed Bumblebee a lot more than any other live action transformers movies I've seen. It's not perfect, there are certainly things I think could have been done better although I think the studios approach to hedge their bets and maybe have it be a prequel harmed it. For one it meant they couldn't have megatron appear in the cybertron battle because it would create continuity problems (as if bayformers were ever sticklers for continuity lol). Anyway that's all I really have to say about that. I'm happy to agree to disagree as long as we can keep it civil and chill.
@@unstoppableExodia I thought Last Knight was the best Live Action Transformers film because it was actually decent. Bumblebee Movie was trying to be another cheesy 80s movie like Breakfast Club & those kinds of movies & I hated that. Part of what there was to like about Last Knight was how it felt like it was setting up for something like the Gen1 animated Transformers movie. It would have been interesting to see how it would have pulled off Unicron. Essentially I'm saying without that final film we're being cheated into having crappy live action films that won't lead anywhere.
WaterKirby1994 well Bumblebee was set in 1987 so it was totally appropriate for it to have nods to pop culture from the 80s. I liked how they handled that. I liked Hailee Steinfeld's performance in that movie, she was believable without going over the top like shia lebouf. She's a sugar honey, shame she's all up into going to hillsong church but oh well. In fact the human characters in the Michael bay movies were one of the worst parts of those movies for me. They were either too full on as caricatures or they were dull military men. In bumblebee John Cena's character had a line where he questioned that the robots asking them to trust them were called the decepticons. It was a funny and humanizing piece of dialogue something I didn't really get in the Michael bay movies. I have massive doubts that the last knight was setting up a G1 live action movie. That just sounds like wishful thinking. A G1 live action movie is all I ever wanted from them but bay was never going to do that. He had disavowed G1 from the moment he began working on that first film. I know you're going to say they were going to have Unicron in it but they were going to have earth be Unicron and that just doesn't work on so many levels. But the biggest issue with that is it means you can't see Unicron transform into robot mode without it destroying civilization on earth. And even if they found a way to do that it wouldn't be the Unicron from the 1986 movie. That Unicron was a terrifying concept. A Unicron that somehow had been dormant for billions of years and became a life hosting planet isn't anywhere near as terrifying or compelling. It would beg the question of how geologists never noticed that the earth was a giant transformer when they researched the earth's core. Scientists on earth in reality know a lot about what the earth is made of, how they layers of it work, how tectonic plates work and how their movements influence earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and tsunami's and as far as I can see that would not work with the idea of earth being Unicron. And the lengths they would have to go to to try and make it work don't seem worthwhile when a simpler option would be to simply do what the animated movie did. That was simpler but it worked, really well and it hasn't been done in cgi. But it's ok because it still hasn't been done in cgi yet. So if Hasbro go full reboot, learn from the MCU and apply things from the source material that fans would love to seen in a live action/cgi movie then we could be treated to a proper G1 inspired transformers movie, the movie we all deserve.
@@unstoppableExodia This is Hasbro though they don't understand what the fans want. If they were going to apply things people want we would have gotten Cheetor back long ago. Last Knight had a few Gen1 callbacks in it & an Armada reference at the start for like a minute. Now of course I don't mean it being exactly like Gen1's movie, more of a weird fusion of it with Prime's Unicron. We'll probably see Unicron using the powers it showed in Prime. I admit I was disappointed by Last Knight's choice to use Earth Unicron. We likely saw 1 of 5 bodies Quintessa has destroyed in Last Knight, however we may get more than that from her like Quintessons that serve her. Now we could potentially get timetravel in Movie 6 so that Earth isn't destroyed by Unicron upon awakening after that actually happens. I expect it likely for Optimus Prime to sacrifice himself to defeat Unicron & save Earth. As well as for him to make either Bumblebee or HotRod leader if not possibly both of them. For some reason I get the feeling Quintessa will outlive Unicron with her last body potentially surviving the movie.
this is kind of a hot take, but i prefer the radio voice. it gives him a lot more character and personality imo. but i’m ngl and say i don’t want him to speak ever again
I HATE the fact that Bumblebee's been mute since Transformers one. It pisses me off JUST as much as giving Batman the gravelly voice and calling throwing knives, batarangs since Batman Begins I can't stand it. It's been 14 straight years for the Batman stuff and 12 for the Bumblebee stuff and it seems they aren't going to stop any time soon
I prefer bumblebee with a voice than a stupid radio because the radio voice is getting old and Hasbro better stop giving bumblebee the radio voice and stop making bumblebee losing his memories because it only works once and maybe the second time but not the third time because it gets old really fast. also Hasbro if you see this please read this because I agree with the youtube channel RodimusPrimal on this. The memory loss will get old just like the radio voice. Bumblebee is my favorite transformers character and I hope he stay around for generations to come.
I would prefer it if Bumblebee Movie was a crappy prequel to the already flawed cinematic universe. I don't want another continuity where Bumblebee loses his voice, I want a sequel to Last Knight where Bumblebee has his voice back for the final battle against Unicron & Quintessa! I want a movie reboot if it happens to be done right & not use the cliche of Bumblebee losing his voice. If Hasbro intends to go through with a crappy new movie continuity, they should at least approve of an anime series where Bumblebee keeps his VA from the War For Cybertron & Fall of Cybertron games. Todd Haberkorn could possibly make a great Starscream in the English Dub of said anime.
Bumblebee is my favorite number two next to Optimus Prime I picture Bumblebee as a little brother to Optimus Prime those two are awesome. If Hasbro and Takara Tomy wants the fans to be happy with their characters they should keep Bumblebee voice his real voice and let the voice actor do Bee voice and keep him talking in all Transformers shows, videos games and movies too because fans and me want to hear Bumblebee talking and his real his real voice they should do that in all Transformers shows, t.v, movies and video games forever and they should keep the voice actor talking as Bumblebee voice actor too. Dan Gilvezan is awesome in the show, G1 movie and come back do the voice in Transformers Devastation, Will Friedle is really awesome and amazing doing Bumblebee voice in Transformers Prime, TF Rescue Bots and 2015 Robots in Disguise show too. Thank you for the video Rodimus Primal I hope Hasbro listen to the Bumblebee fans about keep B-127 aka Bumblebee voice and the voice actor keep him talking is a good thing I subscribe I love Bumblebee so much and my sister too nice work.
I quite like Bumblebee just in general. The loss of voice definitely worked, but he should have his voice back. I'm glad that in Prime he didn't have a voice, but managed to get it back and delivered one of the most badass lines I've ever heard. Totally worth it. And I kinda like the radio transmission thing, but I think they could've offered a better explanation for why he got his voice back in the last knight.
I hate that weird mute/beeping/radio trend that's been going on. Stop making him mute in 70% mute in everything he is in. The R2-D2 beeping in the Prime series was really annoying. I prefer bumblebee voiced by a actor...not by radio.
That is just because you like G1 and "dont want things to change". G1 is over. I really dont get why people want blocky robots, Megatron coming up with a bad plan every episode, and just....jeez😔
I prefer him silent. For the most part him loosing his voice is a part of his character development: the cocky kid loosing something so important to him and then learning how to live life without it while becoming a better person in general
Well sorry that non verbal people can't just talk themselves and that Bay realized how important the non verbal Bumblebee was to the kids who could relate. Have fun in that special place in hell reserved for you.
Nexus8846 Productions you bring up a good point and I personally do like this aspect of Bumblebee losing his voice but I don’t think that Bay really cared about representing those who have difficulty speaking, I think it could have just been a voice casting issue or a marketing ploy, and while I do apologise if this is offensive to you I don’t think that we should be telling people to go to hell over it but that’s just my take thanks for reading
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv I'm 99,9% he didnt realized that Rodimus Primal even explained in the Video that he wanst supposed to speak at all in the start Seriously are we really discussing about Mute people from Real Life and an Alien Autonomous Robotic Organism that didnt speak!?
I can see both sides: It's a interesting concept for sure and gives a interesting play on the character, but at the same time, I agree that because it goes on for so long, both in the movies and in the cartoons inspired by it, I feel that it would be better if the loss of his voice was limited to single episode, maybe two at max so you can still have him loose his voice if you want to, but doesn't take forever to resolve like it does currently and can have bee be voiced for the majority of the show
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A Transformers trend started in 2007 with Bumblebee has had fans hoping that the little Autobot scout would stop losing his voice? The question is, should it come to an end?
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Maybe at the end of the 07 film he was still using the radio and maybe the reason he can talk in the last night he got hit in the neck a bunch and activated his voice box for a while
I don’t really care that he lost his voice I think it fits him better for a silent but deadly warrior
When I watched a clip of g1 when I was 7, 5 years ago and I was surprised bumblebee could talk
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Bruh bumblebee is more like cliffjumper
I mean, the "radio talk" can be used humorously which is pretty great at times, but Bumblebee does deserve his own voice. Hopefully they'll find a way to bring back Bumblebee's voice in the new Transformers movies, if the Bumblebee movie does get a sequel that is.
Fingers crossed that it does. The first three minutes alone was better than most of the Bay-verse, and I wouldn't complain if Hailee Steinfeld reprised her role. Plus, the Cybertronion design was such a glowup.
TheGreatMeme Gaming Yeah!
Yahoo! More people want to make sure *I* get a voice!
Voiceing bumblebee
I hate when they give him a radio voice. That undermines the whole point of him losing his voice!
They actually got a great voice actor for him, only to shut him up 10 minutes later.
My sentiments exactly!
Another good voice actor for Bumblebee was Will Friedle
@@basedpota Lol it was the opposite for me. Whenever I heard Dylan O'Brian I immediately thought of the Maze Runner TvT
100% agree he should have a voice. The idea he loses it for a time is fine, as long as he gets it back.
Mr_writer1985 agreed
I actually like it
But it's getting old fast.
Me and my friemd agree
I think if bumblebee loses his voice it really should be permanent
2:05 Spike: This is Bumblebee.
Cop: Yeah? Let's see it buzz and make honey.
Bumblebee: Maybe I can explain and without actually buzzing.
Cop: *_WHA-_*
Eaglehood w
Perfectly cut screams
Wait, he did not said that he would not make honey
Spike. *W I T W I C K Y*
plot twist that cop ripped out his voice box
I kinda like the aspect of him losing his voice, as long as he gets it back eventually. It kinda gives him more character.
I agree ☝️
Same.
Same
That character thing depends on the director.
@@HexenkoeniginVonAngmar True, it'll vary between continuities. I just personally prefer when he has lost his voice in a continuity, and gets to experience and build on his own character with that. Assuming that he gets his voice back, it still leaves for a lot of character development there. I still appreciate versions of Bumblebee that have voices, they've got their own charm to them. I just, personally like the character ark when he looses his voice.
The only time Mute Bee was pulled off nicely was in the Aligned version.
"You took my voice. You will never rob anyone of anything ever again."
That I agree. I still don't care for him being mute, but Bumblebee getting it back was a long time coming.
@@RodimusPrimal ngl RID15 made me feel like we TF fans were finally done with the mutebee phase... then cyberverse brought it back...
@@demonking86420 Only for Season 1 though. It's possible he will get his voice back in Season 2.
Aligned?
Michael bay wanted bee to be famous and cute
In the first film Optimus said that his voice module thingy was damaged and Ratchet needed to get around to fix it. What have they done for the next 5 films? Absolutely nothing. Not even that but Ratched was seen fighting more than healing or repairing and that's because he was literally never seen repairing even though Optimus said he was the team's medic.
Which is really telling on how little the live action films cared about the Transformers themselves.
@@RodimusPrimal ~It's all about that money~
~sadly~
@NotSnarl Megatrons designs werent bad atleast Bay actually made Megatron an actual threat
I mean didn’t ratchet die
@@vibezk4054 hes too ratchet lol
Here’s my view on it. It was kinda cute in the first few movies (ignoring the inconsistency with the ending of the first film) and it worked in Prime, because it created and interesting dynamic between the team, with Ratchet feeling guilty about not being able to fix it, Smokescreen not understanding why it still bothered Bumblebee, and him not being able to communicate with most of the humans, and the buzzing wasn’t annoying. But in Cyberverse, when they went back to the radio talking thing, it was annoying because it wasn’t actually anything from a radio, it was just a bunch of fake commercials. And it didn’t even make sense. Since he could talk on the Arc
The crash landing probably undid the repair job.
"Why do you even have three faces? Couldn't decide witch is the ugliest!?" The way that was delivered makes me miss that show.
Animated is often overlooked by Prime by a lot of people, unfortunately.
RodimusPrimal Animated, Prime and G1 are overlooked by the Bay films. People don't understand that those are such good shows!
@@matthewreynoso6904
Not really I am a huge fans of the movies yet back then I would watch the first 3 movies (this was before age of extinction) the first 3 part episodes of Animated (I only had a 3 pack)
And would watch Prime and G1 on Netflix when it was on there also Beast Wars
@@matthewreynoso6904 I'm rewatching G1 at the moment, after finally getting the DVD box set. it brings back memories watching it as a kid in the evening when it was on with a bowl of coco pops...ah...were dose the time go
In prime, I thought it was a great decision to have Bee lose his voice. It accomplished three core things for the character:
1. It meant his connection to Raph was deeper and more personal, as Raph came from a large family where he never felt heard.
2. It makes Bee seem more venerable. His wound is a constant reminder that he can be hurt and lose things. Megatron removed his means of communication and expression, damaging his relationship to the rest of the world.
3. The buzzing noise was an easy way to make him endearing and explain how he got his name. It's miles better than the radio talking, as cool as the idea seems. (Bumblebee 2018 did a good job with it though)
I think it's a core part of his character now, but if it is gonna be done, it has to be done tastefully and with relevance to his character, not just because thats how he is now.
THISSS
No.
Atleast Tf prime explains how bumblebee got his voice back.
*_Unlike The last Knight_*
I mean he had his voice at the end of the 2007 movie, so it made no fucking sense as to why he lost it again.
Optimus Prime SP I would’ve been lazy because how the heck would Kade know how to do this but it would’ve still been better if Kade modified the voice box from the beginning of the movie
@@SertQuos He can technically talk, but it's not easy for him as you can see in the scenes where he does, that's why he preffers using radio and movie dialogue.
@@HIsForHawk That a Pretty Good Explanation! I Can See Where The Writers Were Trying To Go With.But Although I Like The Bayverse Transformers Films But As The Sequels Went On That When Bay Lost His Damm Mind. Aside From That I Wish There Was a Live Action TV Version of The Show That Is Combination of Both The G1 Era And The Bayverse Films And As For The Voice of Bummblebee I Wish Jason Faunt Would Voice Bee And As For His Car Mode I Would Go For A Volkswagen Golf Sport (2 Door) Because It Will Make An Amazing Redesign of His Look In G1.
At least bumblebee movie showed how his voice got destroyed
as you've said, the fact he PHISICALLY lost his voice TWICE and somehow talk again was a complete plot hole just here to make him more like a pet for the main characters...
I said this in Megatron is my hero I'll say it here,
"Megatron may have taken his voice, but never his courage."
Chip Chase would say that!
@@FORCESN95S agreed
Finally some people get it!
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv of course Some get it I commented on the video
You get the best comment award👍😍🐝🐝🐝
I like Bumblebee talking with his own voice! INSTEAD OF USING THE RADIO!
talking through the radio really hurts my head
I personally like the Mute Bee, I understand that he should have his voice back and I'm totally fine with that. However, him being mute gives him a sort of quirk. So we could empathize with him
They probably also thought that it'll give him a sort of r2d2 appeal with him mostly going for high pitched boop beep sounds. But yes, at the end of the day, I'm fine and happy whether or not he has voice.
MICHEAL BAY MADE BUMBLEBEE LOOK LIKE AN INSTECTICON
@@kingtai2005
You mean modernized the Transformers with Prime following it
@@doomjoltfromflordia4069 still, bumblebee losing his voice and talking through the radio needs to be put to under arrest
@@kingtai2005 and it has actually in the war for cybertron trilogy series on Netflix
Humbug!
Bumblebee should not lose his voice unfortunately this trend has lasted longer than when he has had a voice. Very unfortunate.
Larkin's Lair
I have to disagree with you,
I like how Bumblebee has to convey complex emotion with his facial experience instead of his voice in the Movies like the other Transformers,
The whole talking though the radio thing is really cool and interesting I never seen it done before, 🐝
Thank you for reading.🙏
I disagree with your opinion.
Omega Maximus
That’s okay it’s your opinion and you’re free to Express yourself however you want. ☺️
The Best Bumblebee is TFA and he never shut up. Snake Eyes is the only one who needs no voice.
Your right realy your a kind one he is the next leader damn Megatron damn Megatron why won’t Megatron loose his voice 😎😎🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Right! Bumblebee is no Snake Eyes
Yeah. And I liked "Wasp" as well.
Give Bee his voice back! Cmon Hasbro!
Hi Johnny flash love you r videos
Hasbro: Now that's just prime........
Now give me your voicebox
@@GhaniKeSawah ah sh(oo)t
Hi
Make voice boxes here again
Although his being mute makes for an interesting story aspect, its kind of hard to believe that a highly advanced technological lifeform would have a problem synthesizing speech. Especially if he can still play sounds on the radio. And if my smartphone can talk to me then there's no reason a transformer should not be able to. Although the movie would have a different feel if bumblebee had Siri's voice. 😄
To me it should be the same as an injury that he heals from. Rather than permanent.
Should *Bumblebee always lose his voice?
No. It's an annoying trope that only kind of worked well once, and when it did, it wasn't even in a Transformers movie.
Michael Nix well Bee had his radio in the movies. That was a cool idea but Bayverse Bee was never truly mute in the movies right?
@@chey6073 he was mute in the movies. But michael was saying the one time it worked wasnt in the movies.
@@keilafleischbein59 no he's saying "... wasn't even in a transformers movie."
@@keilafleischbein59 He was saying that Transformers Prime did it better.
@@simbasorariku3 i do believe transformers prime falls outside of "transformers movies" on the venn diagram.
I couldn't agree more. It was ok in Prime and I think it worked well enough in the Bumblebee solo film, but we really need to give Bee his voice back
Jeez, it only happened four times. This is like when I used to argue Cliffjumper died too much.
Honesty, I like the plot of Bee losing his voice. He always gets it back, even though it isn’t always explained. But for the Bumblebee movie, I was hoping for his voice. But knowing the other series’, he’ll eventually get his voice back in sequels.
Bah!
I really like how in Cyberverce he’s both mute and gets his voice, it’s a really nice combination!
That scene from G1 of Optimus hugging Bumblebee is so cute. X3
Cant disagree with that :)
Is yes
Yes
Time stamp please
@@Darko1980s Watch the video.
Or skim through the timestamp by hovering your mouse over the video duration bar until you see it.
Bumblebee losing his voice has been done to death, as have the jokes around it. And it was only done decently three times:
Prime utilized it much better than the movie that spawned it, but other than some communication issues didn't use it to handicap the character much. And when he DID get his voice back, it was epic.
Cyberverse treating it as an effect of his amnesia and a bit of PTSD.
The Bumblebee movie 1) actually showed how it happened as part of his backstory and 2) used it better story wise and humor wise (communication misunderstandings) and used it to help the bonding between him and Charlie.
PS: Ratchet making entirely meta jokes about it happening AGAIN in Fall of Cybertron is funny as heck, but that's about as far as the jokes need to go. Hasbro needs to stop falling back on this quirk just because they can.
SwiftpawWolffox
I have to disagree with you,
I like how Bumblebee has to convey complex emotion with his facial experience instead of his voice in the Movies like the other Transformers,
The whole talking though the radio thing is really cool and interesting I never seen it done before, 🐝
Thank you for reading.🙏
I say that when a character loses their voice has to be done with respect to the character and done well, otherwise you shouldn't do it.
So me having Aspergers is a quirk? So my brother being non verbally autistic is a quirk too? So you're also saying that we should just stop being the way we were born then? Are you also saying that my brother, who loves bumblebee to death, shouldn't have his character relate to him?
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv I have aspergers too, but you dont see me getting offended by a comment.
Also, I loved Bee in Prime,Other wise i just like bee in the other shows (I haven't seen cyberverse), and He reminded me of my own struggles as a kid, when I was having trouble communicating with others that weren't my immediate family.
Sounds like bay made a mistake not making Frank Welker Megatron in the first film
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Nah, Hugo Weaving was a great Megatron
Kaynowa well in hindsight it looks kinda silly to bring back OG prime’s actor but not OG Megatron’s actor
023 Studios frank did it better IMO
Anyway they ended up bringing Frank back for TF4 and 5. And even thought Galvatron and Megatron were totally wasted characters, at least Frank did a good job with what they gave him
I really liked the Transformers Animated Bumblebee tbh. Especially that design.
Bumblebee becomes an angry teen without his voice and I love it
I'd be pissed too if some asshole left me unable to speak.
I prefer Bumblebee having a voice. I actually remember I wrote a fan script at one point, which had a scene where Bumblebee's voice box was damaged by Circuit Breaker, only to heal later on. Just a subtle nod, while maintaining the classic motif.
Also, in that screenplay, I made it a point not to put him in the heat of combat like the other movies. He does provide some support in fights, and defends himself when attacked, but he's a scout first and foremost
I so agree that Bumblebee losing his voice needs to stop, although I love how he got it back in "Transformers Prime " and whooped Megatron's butt!
You mean "stabbed his chest"
sailorstarlightmoon
I have to disagree with you,
I like how Bumblebee has to convey complex emotion with his facial experience instead of his voice in the Movies like the other Transformers,
The whole talking though the radio thing is really cool and interesting I never seen it done before, 🐝
Thank you for reading.🙏
I mean, it all depends how it’s pulled off.
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Wait? They already made Prime movie? Was it released direct to DVD? Did I miss something?
Having Bee speak through the radio reminds me of the Junkions, but not in a good way.
That would make a cool Junkion gimmick though.
Yeah, I always thought it would be great for a modern Junkion adaption, and the next year, the first Bay film came out...
Junkions...thank you....editing my comment now lol. I got their name wrong.
Yes, he looks like Prowl, and "the Streaks", but also his personslity in the movies I think is more like Sideswipe's, who also had a Camaro altmode in 2001, and also he had really similar head with the round eyes with the visor-like parts, those sideparts with the vents, the faceplate, the horns, and that middle part on the top of his head(Silverstreak also had that form), and that whole talking through radio thing was used for Wreck-Gar originally, as well as those spiky wheel thingies he had in tf4.Also, he's too big.But he's yellow at least, so there's that.
Everyone ignores the fact that when we will Jack dies in the third movie bumblebee says goodbye old friend in his normal voice
"we will Jack"? You mean Wheeljack?
A bit late but before he says it, he makes a radio noise. It's also a quote from a different movie.
@@TheDaxter11 WE WILL WHEELJACK UP THESE DECEPTICREEPS
We will jack is my favorite autobot in g1.
@@shawerful5209 whats that mean
I always hated the non talking Bumblebee. Dan Gilvezan needs to come back and voice him.
I agree.
I can just read the title and tell you no, he should not lose his voice.
I agree you , this shit needs to stop.
That’s why Michael bay should be fired
@@thetrendygamer5439 He has been.
Oh no, it ‘s Lorenzo Di Bonaventura that ruined Transformers, and it is he that should be fired.
Weaponised Afro ok good
I hate how him losing his voice has become synonymous with the character now
Jon Gauthier me too.
Jon Gauthier
I have to disagree with you,
I like how Bumblebee has to convey complex emotion with his facial experience instead of his voice in the Movies like the other Transformers,
The whole talking though the radio thing is really cool and interesting I never seen it done before, 🐝
Thank you for reading.🙏
The buzzing noise
I hate how grown adults constantly complain about a child centered character in a toyline having a disability is the absolute worst thing to ever occur.
Nexus8846 Productions
THANK YOU!
That scene with Optimus hugging Bumblebee is saved to my photos I can look at that anytime!
8:30 Had Frank did his Prime/TLK Megatron voice, Michael would've accepted him.
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Great video for discussion, but it's a simple answer. No. It was a bad idea then and it's a bad idea now. The whole Wreck Gar-esque radio voice worked well for a quirky Junkion...but not at all for a main character
No. The joke lost its appeal after the first film.
Omar Harris it was only good in transformers prime
Paty O’s and bumblebee
023 Studios - I mean the joke of him losing his voice and then using a bunch of random, pop culture sound bites on his radio to compensate.
Paty O’s - And that’s largely because there was an actual arc to the concept (same as in “Bumblebee”) instead of “wouldn’t it be funny if he used random pop songs to talk?” And the ending, where he gets his voice back was done so beautifully.
First film was a joke.
Bee going silent is becoming a crutch
I grew up with the live actions so bumble bee being mute seems right to me
same with me except i grew up with tfp
I grew up with g1 and prime but I always preferred his beeping, it was endearing and a pleasant juxtaposition to his warrior-like appearance (in his recent adaptations). But I do think it’s a shame that mute Bee is seemingly canon now.
"But a trend started in the first live-action Transformers movie needs to be put to an end."
Amen, brother, amen.
Hell no. That was the stupidest idea after giving Optimus lips.
I don't that's something I ever got over. Optimus should always have his faceplate!
@@RodimusPrimal and it must move up and down, most get that wrong about me.
I'm kind of half and half on that. I like Optimus with his face plate, but I like what they did in Prime, too. I like the idea that he can retract it when he wants to. I liked seeing more expression on his face. I just don't like the way they did it in the live action films. He frowned too much.
Or constantly having is face mask off. It works fine for beast wars and prime, but for some reason in the movies it looks weird.
@@nickzilla20 A little bit yeah. Maybe they just need the right kind of design for him...not that I could find it. I'm barely a passable artist myself but mecha of that sort are soooo hard to draw! I've been struggling bad. Straight lines are my enemy!
That aside . . . I wonder if for those who prefer the mask be permanent there could be a compromise. Optimus's battle mask isn't permanent, but what if he had some kind of disfiguring injury that made him uncomfortable showing his face, so he keeps it on? Or maybe it's an outward sign of his grief when he thought he lost Elita? It could even be a mix of both?
Either way, there has to be a way. The artistry and technology of today is so incredible. I'm sure they could figure something out.
Well Without A Voice How Can You Understand Me?
You need a voice to talk to people
Noah Walker I Have A Voice
Yes you do bumblebee
exactly, id rather have you talk then listen to 40 year old radio transmissons or have others translate
*cough* radio
edit: jk u should've never have lost your voice.
0:11 not you Bumblebee, stay here drink some hot chocolate and eat the cookies that mama Elita made for you my yellow son
lol I love that!
@@matthewreynoso6904 if you love it, I'm happy
I feel like it's a matter of what they do with it and actually letting him have his voice once he gets it back. His muteness affects multiple relationships in Prime, and it does have story consequences. When he finally speaks and doesn't even realize it is such a perfect moment; it shows that he was talking the whole time he just couldn't be understood. It really works because he kept his voice through the movie and the next series. When his muteness is just the background for a joke or it doesn't actually affect any of the characters, then it feels like a crutch to avoid giving him more personality.
Now that Knightverse is a reboot, they really outta fix the voice box to distance itself from Bayverse. We saw Blitzwing rip it off and throw it on the side of the mountain. So let's say Sector 7 picked it up and have the Autobots get it back. Ratchet can adjust it back and boom, voice is back!
He could take blitzwing's voice box since he was blown to pieces
@023 Studios Just throwing it out there
I want the Sequel to Last Knight to still happen & have Bumblebee with his voice participate in the final battle against Quintessa & Unicron! Let the crappy Bumblebee Movie be a prequel to the flawed Bayverse rather than the start of what will probably be a worse movieverse than Bay directed! We don't need a 2nd Movie Universe where Bumblebee loses his voice!
Why does it have to be a "cinematic universe"? I don't think transformers really works well as movies.
Caye Daws "does it work as a continuing storyline?"
"Yes"
"Does it have a large array of characters at its disposal, a lot of which barely see the light of day?"
"Yes"
"Is it a recognizable brand that can also have entertaining action?"
"Yes"
"Then it can be a cinematic universe."
Unfortunately only two transformers movies so far have been made with the purpose of being in an extended universe (TLK and BB) and neither have had sequels yet. Otherwise every other film has been made with the purpose of just being its own film, except for DOTM which was intended to be a complete conclusion to a movie trilogy. This is why Megatron keeps coming back from the dead only to be a secondary villain.
Nope, he needs a voice. It was okay at first in the one Bay movie, after that it was just ridiculous. Even then, it was kind of silly since it probably would have been an easy enough fix. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ so, just give him back his dang voice!!!! Enough is enough!
it's annoying GIVE HIM A DAMN VOICE
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why thank you
Godzilla guy 54 while you're at it give my autistic brother a voice too. Give me and my social anxiety ridden, Aspergers ass the ability to talk to people and make friends IRL. Give Beethoven the ability to hear back, Lance Armstrong his testicle so he can have children, go back in time and make Steven Hawking not paralyzed so he can live a normal life and not have lived it in a wheelchair with an artificial voice.
Wait, what do you mean it doesn't work like that? Disabilities don't just go away? Damn, you got my hopes up dude.
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv fuck you
I grew up with the Michael Bay movies and mute Bumblebee, so at first I was so used to him with a voice hearing him with one was weird to me. But after rewatching the g1 show I like him a lot more with a voice.
Bumblebee deserves to have a say in things. Literally. Seriously I love his voice lol
Since they're moving away from the Michael Bay version, he should have a voice again.
I still kind of want that Last Knight Sequel as a Final Bay Universe Movie where Bumblebee keeps his voice that he gets back for the final battle against Quintessa & Unicron. Also I want the crappy Bumblebee movie to be the prequel to the 2007 movie. We don't need another movie universe where he loses his voice.
@@WaterKirby1994 I think they should have made the last Knight into around 5 sequels.
He will have a voice again!
Honestly the Michael Bay made sense with the robot bits hanging off, he's a giant robot that folds in to a car. Everything falls into place.
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I didn't mind him not having his voice in the '07 movie, especially since he got it back in the end. Him not having his voice for long periods of times literately doesn't make sense. They can repair most damage, but not the voice box. Doesn't make sense. All versions of bumblebee should have their voice
@023 Studios TF Prime isn't a sequel to the live action movie. And he did get his voice back right before killing Megatron. And having a biological mechanism doesn't make sense. Just saying its too advanced just means lazy writing, understandable for a show for kids whose primary purpose is to sell toys, but still lazy
Michael Bay made him lose his voice again in ROTF only looking at it in terms of Marketing and not Stoey unfortunately.
Every time my fam sees a yellow chevy camaro my fam says: LOOKS ITS BUMBLEBEE
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I like how in the fall of cybertron video game on the first mission wen u play as bumblebee, when ratchet is checking him over he says "his voice chip is still crushed, nothing new there then" a subtle nod to the 2007 movie
I agree, I want ‘Bee to speak again.
Off topic, why did Bay think Welker wasn’t a good choice for Megatron? He IS Megatron in my books! The clip of him speaking Weaving’s line in the first film sounds perfectly fine. Gah! I’ll never understand that man. Bay I mean, not Frank Welker.
When I first saw that clip with Welker over movie Megatron years ago, it made me SO MAD at Bay.
Honestly I was marginal on the original G1 Bumblebee but the character grew on me! I think the Bee needs his voice not a radio & if they're so bent on using radio speak, let us be reintroduced to the Junkions. As to why Welker wasn't used 1st in the Bayverse (aside from them being misinformed) was 2 fold: the star power of Weaving & supposedly Welker's voice hadn't aged well. And my reply to that Mr. Bay is, your franchise hasn't aged well!
Theres a bunch of times we see welker in the cast and someone else is voicing Megatron
Bay didnt want Cullen as Prime either but the fans outcry for that decision made him change his mind
@@zilvertron Yep, I know. That’s another thing that makes me dislike Bay even more. X(
U should do a video about the live action movies having more G1 based designs. I personally LOVED that change they made for the bumblebee movie
I mean I ACTUALLY RECOGNIZED a lot of the bots in that opening sequence on cybertron
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No bumblebee needs his rights to talk again back from bay
Thank you, you just gave me the answer for my fanfic. Bumblebee will keep his voice in it.
I related to Bumblebee so much as a kid, he was a witty smart ass that often messed things up but he learned from his mistakes and eventually respected the wisdom of his fellow more experienced autobots. His voice was a big part of the character. The radio talk is clever and fun but it shouldn't define who he is, get on it Rachet!
It sucks that they always make him mute now. I really enjoyed how much of a jokester he was in Transformers Animated
J-Marcos it sucks how my brother is mute too.
Whoa! I didn't know Hotshot was Bumblebee! My childhood was a lie! 😭
Me neither lol
He was not Bumblebee
He was GOING to be Bumblebee but then they changed it so they are not the same Character
@@fabianrocha9924 they couldn't name him Bumblebee cuz name rights expired
@Slimine Prime S7 your right, but hot shot was bumblebee
I which the basics so I knew.
im getting tired of Bee getting screwed over lately... they take his voice, they take him memory. LEAVE BUMBLE BEE ALONE!!!! he's been through enough
They should have it where he talks backwards so we can understand it instead of completely confusion
I wanna say no, because while it is a REALLY good concept to show how much the war can physically and mentally scar a character. I do think that this shouldn't be Bumblebee's constant character trait, especially since the idea of Bumblebee not having a voice came from the 2007 Transformer's movie and has pretty much stayed since. Which again, isn't a bad concept it works, especially with how well it was written in his character in TFP and Bumblebee (2018).
But at this point I think that Bumblebee being voice impaired/mute should really only be done if it affects the overall story and helps him grow as a character. But at the same time try to avoid overusing the same idea because by that point it becomes overuse and stale. I think there should be future shows, games, movies that do feature a mute Bumblebee just as much as a verbal Bumblebee. There should be a balance between the two as long as the execution is done right.
This has to stop enough of the radio voice
I've always loved the first Bumblebee and the way he was in the original cartoon I just can't accept much after that, I do not understand why it is so important to change or reboot or destroy the things we enjoyed
Scottlen Miller woah woah woah! Destory!? You mean I can't go into my closet and pull out all my G1 cartoon DVDs and watch them because the big mean ole Mike has completely destroyed any remains of it on earth!?
Oh wait no, they're still there, able to be watched and enjoyed any time I please to do so. From the beginning all the way to the end of the cartoon. That's how it seems to be for all transformers shows in fact, as each new show has a new version of the characters as the old one has concluded and it doesn't make sense to just repeat the same story or constantly add new characters that are different from the old ones, yet still so similar that they're just almost the same. It's also not like I absolutely have to watch Transformers content that has done something to the characters that I don't like or disagree with.
So uh... what's the problem?
Bumblebee is my absolute favorite Transformer next to Optimus Prime. That's one of the problems I had with the Bay movie when he wasn't his Volkswagen bug self and when he couldn't speak.
I’m glad war for cybertron brought back Bees voice and he sounds like a restored version of original bumblebee
I was introduced to Transformers through the Prime show. To me, Bumblebee not talking is cute and nice disability representation, and I'm just used to it, but I can understand how it's being overdone. It actually took me a while to get used to him talking.
Quick answer: hecc no.
I think a good voice actor would do a great job woth Bumblebee, I hope Hasbro stop doing that with Bee
Also in beast wars I always thought Cheetor was bumblebee’s descendant.
Cheetor reminded me of hot rod as kid
I grew up with the 2007 Bumblebee, he was always my favorite and I like how him being mute standed out more, but they are kinda over using it, I don’t mind if it’s for the Movies and Transformers Prime for how it impacted the story of the show, but yeah
No more tiny Star Wars droid "cuteness" on my favorite transformer, please.
I am so sick of Bumblebee losing his voice, this needs to stop now.
Omega Maximus
I have to disagree with you,
I like how Bumblebee has to convey complex emotion with his facial experience instead of his voice in the Movies like the other Transformers,
The whole talking though the radio thing is really cool and interesting I never seen it done before, 🐝
Thank you for reading.🙏
I disrespect your opinion.
Omega Maximus
That’s okay it’s my Opinion Thank You. ☺️
Awesome and informative video RP, I 100% agree about the negative impact of the bumblebee keeps on losing his voice trope.
Bumblebee should absolutely not always lose his voice. It's a trope that pissed me off the moment it began. Didn't help that the trope began with the first bayformers movie. I never understood why it became a trend, it added nothing to his character to have him talking throttle radio. I preferred in G1 where bumblebee had a voice and talked normally, it helped give him personality and individuality. I was disappointed that the bumblebee movie continued the trend but it was part of the studio plan to have the movie be a prequel to the bayformers movies
Yeah I'm hoping we still get the Final Bayformer Universe movie & that Bumblebee gets to keep his voice for most of it. I hated that crappy Bumblebee Movie & want it to stay a prequel to Bayformers! After the Final Battle with Quintessa & Unicron, we should get a reboot where Bumblebee never loses his voice!
WaterKirby1994 well there friend. It is clear we have very different views on the Michael bay transformers movies. I absolutely despise them and you seem not to. Nothing wrong with that, the world would be a less interesting place if we all had the same opinions on things.
Naturally I have no desire to see the cliffhanger to the last knight resolved as I never felt Bay was a good fit for transformers as I don't think he has an adequate appreciation of the source material and his vision of what transformers should be has never ever appealed to me. I'm not a fan of his other films or his directorial style in general.
Personally I enjoyed Bumblebee a lot more than any other live action transformers movies I've seen. It's not perfect, there are certainly things I think could have been done better although I think the studios approach to hedge their bets and maybe have it be a prequel harmed it. For one it meant they couldn't have megatron appear in the cybertron battle because it would create continuity problems (as if bayformers were ever sticklers for continuity lol). Anyway that's all I really have to say about that. I'm happy to agree to disagree as long as we can keep it civil and chill.
@@unstoppableExodia I thought Last Knight was the best Live Action Transformers film because it was actually decent. Bumblebee Movie was trying to be another cheesy 80s movie like Breakfast Club & those kinds of movies & I hated that.
Part of what there was to like about Last Knight was how it felt like it was setting up for something like the Gen1 animated Transformers movie. It would have been interesting to see how it would have pulled off Unicron. Essentially I'm saying without that final film we're being cheated into having crappy live action films that won't lead anywhere.
WaterKirby1994 well Bumblebee was set in 1987 so it was totally appropriate for it to have nods to pop culture from the 80s. I liked how they handled that. I liked Hailee Steinfeld's performance in that movie, she was believable without going over the top like shia lebouf. She's a sugar honey, shame she's all up into going to hillsong church but oh well. In fact the human characters in the Michael bay movies were one of the worst parts of those movies for me. They were either too full on as caricatures or they were dull military men. In bumblebee John Cena's character had a line where he questioned that the robots asking them to trust them were called the decepticons. It was a funny and humanizing piece of dialogue something I didn't really get in the Michael bay movies.
I have massive doubts that the last knight was setting up a G1 live action movie. That just sounds like wishful thinking. A G1 live action movie is all I ever wanted from them but bay was never going to do that. He had disavowed G1 from the moment he began working on that first film. I know you're going to say they were going to have Unicron in it but they were going to have earth be Unicron and that just doesn't work on so many levels. But the biggest issue with that is it means you can't see Unicron transform into robot mode without it destroying civilization on earth. And even if they found a way to do that it wouldn't be the Unicron from the 1986 movie. That Unicron was a terrifying concept. A Unicron that somehow had been dormant for billions of years and became a life hosting planet isn't anywhere near as terrifying or compelling. It would beg the question of how geologists never noticed that the earth was a giant transformer when they researched the earth's core. Scientists on earth in reality know a lot about what the earth is made of, how they layers of it work, how tectonic plates work and how their movements influence earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and tsunami's and as far as I can see that would not work with the idea of earth being Unicron. And the lengths they would have to go to to try and make it work don't seem worthwhile when a simpler option would be to simply do what the animated movie did. That was simpler but it worked, really well and it hasn't been done in cgi.
But it's ok because it still hasn't been done in cgi yet. So if Hasbro go full reboot, learn from the MCU and apply things from the source material that fans would love to seen in a live action/cgi movie then we could be treated to a proper G1 inspired transformers movie, the movie we all deserve.
@@unstoppableExodia This is Hasbro though they don't understand what the fans want. If they were going to apply things people want we would have gotten Cheetor back long ago. Last Knight had a few Gen1 callbacks in it & an Armada reference at the start for like a minute.
Now of course I don't mean it being exactly like Gen1's movie, more of a weird fusion of it with Prime's Unicron. We'll probably see Unicron using the powers it showed in Prime. I admit I was disappointed by Last Knight's choice to use Earth Unicron.
We likely saw 1 of 5 bodies Quintessa has destroyed in Last Knight, however we may get more than that from her like Quintessons that serve her. Now we could potentially get timetravel in Movie 6 so that Earth isn't destroyed by Unicron upon awakening after that actually happens.
I expect it likely for Optimus Prime to sacrifice himself to defeat Unicron & save Earth. As well as for him to make either Bumblebee or HotRod leader if not possibly both of them. For some reason I get the feeling Quintessa will outlive Unicron with her last body potentially surviving the movie.
DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAAAAAY!!
Although bringing back the Camaro was a good idea. My Domino's coworker drives one.
The radio talk can be hilarious, so it should be a mix. He has lost his voice for so long, he doesn't have the words at times.
this is kind of a hot take, but i prefer the radio voice. it gives him a lot more character and personality imo. but i’m ngl and say i don’t want him to speak ever again
I HATE the fact that Bumblebee's been mute since Transformers one. It pisses me off JUST as much as giving Batman the gravelly voice and calling throwing knives, batarangs since Batman Begins
I can't stand it. It's been 14 straight years for the Batman stuff and 12 for the Bumblebee stuff and it seems they aren't going to stop any time soon
I prefer bumblebee with a voice than a stupid radio because the radio voice is getting old and Hasbro better stop giving bumblebee the radio voice and stop making bumblebee losing his memories because it only works once and maybe the second time but not the third time because it gets old really fast. also Hasbro if you see this please read this because I agree with the youtube channel RodimusPrimal on this. The memory loss will get old just like the radio voice. Bumblebee is my favorite transformers character and I hope he stay around for generations to come.
I would prefer it if Bumblebee Movie was a crappy prequel to the already flawed cinematic universe. I don't want another continuity where Bumblebee loses his voice, I want a sequel to Last Knight where Bumblebee has his voice back for the final battle against Unicron & Quintessa! I want a movie reboot if it happens to be done right & not use the cliche of Bumblebee losing his voice. If Hasbro intends to go through with a crappy new movie continuity, they should at least approve of an anime series where Bumblebee keeps his VA from the War For Cybertron & Fall of Cybertron games. Todd Haberkorn could possibly make a great Starscream in the English Dub of said anime.
If they are able to get Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime back, why they can't get Dan Gilvezan back as Bumblebee?
Bumblebee is my favorite number two next to Optimus Prime I picture Bumblebee as a little brother to Optimus Prime those two are awesome.
If Hasbro and Takara Tomy wants the fans to be happy with their characters they should keep Bumblebee voice his real voice and let the voice actor do Bee voice and keep him talking in all Transformers shows, videos games and movies too because fans and me want to hear Bumblebee talking and his real his real voice they should do that in all Transformers shows, t.v, movies and video games forever and they should keep the voice actor talking as Bumblebee voice actor too.
Dan Gilvezan is awesome in the show, G1 movie and come back do the voice in Transformers Devastation, Will Friedle is really awesome and amazing doing Bumblebee voice in Transformers Prime, TF Rescue Bots and 2015 Robots in Disguise show too.
Thank you for the video Rodimus Primal I hope Hasbro listen to the Bumblebee fans about keep B-127 aka Bumblebee voice and the voice actor keep him talking is a good thing I subscribe I love Bumblebee so much and my sister too nice work.
I quite like Bumblebee just in general. The loss of voice definitely worked, but he should have his voice back. I'm glad that in Prime he didn't have a voice, but managed to get it back and delivered one of the most badass lines I've ever heard. Totally worth it. And I kinda like the radio transmission thing, but I think they could've offered a better explanation for why he got his voice back in the last knight.
The Bay TF film turned him into a baby: big round eyes, pacifier in his mouth, can't speak, smaller than the other Autobots.
No, Bumblebee should be able to speak!!! Get his voice box repaired!!!
I hate that weird mute/beeping/radio trend that's been going on. Stop making him mute in 70% mute in everything he is in.
The R2-D2 beeping in the Prime series was really annoying. I prefer bumblebee voiced by a actor...not by radio.
Making him mute was MB's way of reducing Bumblebee to a pet, on par with R2D2. It was stupid then, and it's stupid now.
No
That is just because you like G1 and "dont want things to change". G1 is over. I really dont get why people want blocky robots, Megatron coming up with a bad plan every episode, and just....jeez😔
@@doggyprime2537 Did you really just invent my opinions so you could then berate me for them?
@@northoftoofar3772 yep 😐
@doggy prime why are you like this
I prefer him silent. For the most part him loosing his voice is a part of his character development: the cocky kid loosing something so important to him and then learning how to live life without it while becoming a better person in general
Bumblebee doesn’t deserve to lose his voice every new series. I don’t want one of the most iconic characters to just be known for losing his voice.
Totally agree! Stop with the mute bee and let the bot have his voice!
He never should have lost his voice at all. Even after the end of the first movie he should have kept his voice with, Dan Gilvezan in tow!
I blame Micheal bay
Well sorry that non verbal people can't just talk themselves and that Bay realized how important the non verbal Bumblebee was to the kids who could relate. Have fun in that special place in hell reserved for you.
Nexus8846 Productions you bring up a good point and I personally do like this aspect of Bumblebee losing his voice but I don’t think that Bay really cared about representing those who have difficulty speaking, I think it could have just been a voice casting issue or a marketing ploy, and while I do apologise if this is offensive to you I don’t think that we should be telling people to go to hell over it but that’s just my take thanks for reading
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv I'm 99,9% he didnt realized that Rodimus Primal even explained in the Video that he wanst supposed to speak at all in the start
Seriously are we really discussing about Mute people from Real Life and an Alien Autonomous Robotic Organism that didnt speak!?
@@nathanchoe5445 I'm glad, Bay will never touch Transformers ever!If
The answer is *NO!!*
And first lol.
I can see both sides: It's a interesting concept for sure and gives a interesting play on the character, but at the same time, I agree that because it goes on for so long, both in the movies and in the cartoons inspired by it, I feel that it would be better if the loss of his voice was limited to single episode, maybe two at max so you can still have him loose his voice if you want to, but doesn't take forever to resolve like it does currently and can have bee be voiced for the majority of the show
Baybee's face looks like he has a pacifier lol