SATAjet X-5500 Review & Demo
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- SATAjet X 5500 Review & Demo, including 1.2 I, 1.2 O and 1.3 I setups. Beware of buying these guns as I had 2 defective setups straight out of the box, brand new.
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Thank You! I love my Sata's but I love the truth more!!!
The first car I ever painted was with a $10 harbor freight gun. The spray patters was about on par with that Sata. I bought a Devilbiss Tekna copper and have never looked back.
can't go wrong with a devilbess or tekna
@@nunyayourbusiness7327 tekna is made by devilbiss
It was the first car you ever painted. I doubted you knew enough to notice a difference , what you were spraying matters too
Great to see you still giving honest reviews. I don't understand why these manufacturers don't pay close attention to a top painter like yourself and work to fix the minor problems you have pointed out, instead of making excuses and blaming you and making themselves look even worse! guess some people just can't take the truth.
I love love love my Sata guns but I more than appreciate and respect your views real people can decipher the things they like about a gun and the things they don't like but you are giving us real feel information no matter what, you're using much appreciated review brotha
I have quite a lot of different SATA’s, & I’ve never had any problems with them personally. I like the way they work for me, but I also think the Iwata’s whole range are also very well made with great performance & a lot cheaper, which makes them my go-to gun more often than not. A good painter can get great results with just about anything if they know how to adapt to the guns characteristics.
I'm with you Gunman Nothing better then a Prolite !!!! It's nice to see honest reviews and you can't be bought... Stay true to yourself and your viewers...
And that's why you're the Gunman. Great honest review!
One thing I’ve learnt and this has been impressed upon me in my travels. “The customer is always right”. Instead of being bombastic and thinking you’re an idiot and being disingenuous, get involved and at least try and sort the issue out. Especially when you have irrefutable proof of a defective product as you do. The proof is always in the pudding. IMHO.
Great work Gunman. You teaching me plenty and I’m 56 years old. Happy days.👍👍👍👋👋😎😎
They are the best ...thanks for ur vids...self taught living in the middle if nowhere...u changed it all for me..just wanted to say thanks
Love the honesty, I don’t think sata could pay you to even up talk there stuff.
Happy New Year Gunny, and to all your followers. You should never have to feel embarrassed or apologise for doing an honest and independent review, especially when the product is set at this price point. I bought a 3300 minigun a few years ago, and while I think it's generally very well built, I hate the position of the fan control which is far too easy to move accidentally when you're spraying. I also found that while it was not being used for a couple of months the body of the gun started to corrode where the RPS pot locates, which left some white deposits in the first job I used it for after it came back out. Also, the packing gland needed replacing after just two years of light use. Some of these niggles are more serious than others and I still find the Sata a good all round gun. But, the ANI R150 is a cracking little gun at a fraction of the price, and the Devilbiss SRI Pro's are better balanced, have the controls where they should be, and with the Transtech cap spray better. While you have the integrity to give an honest "no holds barred" review, people will respect you for it- that's why SPG support you and send the products for you to try!
I've sprayed with sata's for 15 years, pressure and gravity and have had great results with them. I purchased a 5500 x 1.3 I rp love the way it sprays no problems with mine sorry to here you had problems with yours. In my opinion sata's are great guns but you know what they say about opinions. That's why they make so many brands there's one for everyone.
I have the same and its a superb gun. The best of the best a have more than 10 guns in my career and this rp are the best
What setup do you use?
Yeah I’m stunned at how your it’s BAGGIN on Sata,,,, Devilbiss was fucking Laughed at after the JGA for decades ..... Sata NR92-up too these latest 5000’s have set the standard in the states as the go to gun for production painters.... I’m truly shocked at how bad your reviewing this.... if you were an apprentice when the 4000’s came out you don’t have a whole hell
Of a lot of years under your belt. But hey your doing amazing. Watch the channel respect the vids just stunned at the negative reviews of Sata
Love my 4000 1.4 rp, fan and fluid wide open triggered to the “sweet spot” …. It is a cannon but that’s just how I’ve always done it with every gun, no time to mess around with adjustments lol. If it’s not digital it rarely will have a gauge on it either, I hate the clunkiness of them🤷🏻♂️
I spent 27 years in the booth like that as a production painter. Those guns are beauties but the prices are becoming more ridiculous than ever. I was buying jet 90’s for a little over $200 and 2000 hvlp’s and rp’s for about $300. It’s crazy anymore.
I do love me some Sata’s but there are a lot of really good guns out there these days, they’re catching up with their crazy pricing too. Devilbiss used to be the best bang for your buck but not so much anymore.
Never liked any of the Iwata’s.
Great video though, I appreciate the honesty
WE NEED PEOPLE like you to keep big companies HONEST! I back you in anyway i can. DONT BLOODY CHANGE.
watching from Puerto Rico the truth is the truth thanks. gun man for always keep it real
Great real world review lad, nothing in this is surprising from our experiences in the past, chrome peeling off previous satas etc, our devillbis are just bullet proof you can't break them 👍
Gunner' Very awesome review!One of your most explained gun reviews"👌✔💯
Was waiting for this review. Thanks man
Happy New Year to you Gunman and everyone reading this. Hope you don't cop flak for showing us how it is. Great vid especially when you pitched the DV1 which really highlighted your point
Cheers mate, trust me, I will cop flack for this. I've never not wanted to do a review this much in my life.
In the states we have a group called Consumer Reports which does unbiased testing on various things people buy... The refinish community has you! I've always said Sata's were overpriced for what you get, and here's just another example. Keep up the great work and don't be afraid to say what you think... ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CAN PROVE IT!!!😉😉😉👍👍👍
Great video man😉
Pretty shocking results from for a sata..😞
Happy New year!👍
Thanks mate, happy new year!!
Gunnie your absolutely correct, I've just bought for some mad reason a x5500CC and tell you what I'm not even going to put paint in it, I'm disgusted with the plastic knobs, weight, it doesn't sit in the hand & the finger rest just cuts into your 3rd finger, wish I'd listen to you, so it's for sale & just sticking to my Pro lites & air cap combinations , anyone who disagrees must never had used a Pro lite
Thanks for the video gunny, cant believe sata would do something like that tho. Oh and a happy new years to you too.
All they needed to do was say damn, they look questionable, we would like them back so we can inspect and possibly recall if it's a batch issue but no, they tried pinning it on the way I was spraying them...
@@TheGunmanChannel that's the thing, for such a huge reputable company, I didnt expect that, and as you said, especially for that price tag, it isn't acceptable
@@TheGunmanChannel Now the world knows the real difference between Devilbiss and Sata...Happy New Year Gunman ! Its Pro Lite for me !
Happy new year's
outstanding job thanks
Iwata and Devilbis are same price with their Flagship models or higher now in Europe. My Sata X5500 HVLP / and RP are working very well and with the choice of the I or the O you can prepare them for any work and speed you want. I do restoration with flat finishes using the I Nozzles and sometimes doing ligth Trucks and Repairs were you need more fluid, work faster and use low cost Clears etc. Had no issues at all with the satas. For Pressure adjustment, take the gun in your left hand, push the trigger with your left thumb and adjust with the right hand, it works very well that way. Cheers
Great work and information. I believe we need a follow up with new (defect free Sata's) and DV1 side by side as you did in the end. Please, do it exactly as you did and then turn caps on both for the purity of the test. Loved my old SATA NR2000 but switched to DeVilbiss purely out of price. SATA rebuild kit +$100 bought me a brand new DeVilbiss GTI+. Sorry SATA, we paint cars, not print money😥
“ I wouldn’t spend a 1000$ dollars not saying it’s a bad gun when they work that is” 🤣
Exactly
SATA rep was at our shop the other day because I wanted to demo different nozzle combinations of the 5500. Not one of them had a faulty pattern. And the difference between the 4000 as well the 5000 to these is huge. I ended up ordering an HVLP in 1.3i for Chromax Pro water. And an RP in 1.3o for high solids LE clear.
You can see the left hand side of the "oval" is almost flat pushing the paint to the center. There's always been brand loyalty but disappointing that the supposed best gun maker gets defensive instead of jumping in and fixing the problem.
Jim iwata did that to me, said my new gun was probably dirty, one of thier suppliers sent me a new gun problem solved.
It was obvious with the thinners on the box. Can’t dispute the paint test at the end.
really great in-depth honest review, gunny. Thank you for taking the time to make it despite any impending SATA fan backlash. Those spray pattern results at the end would make me pissed if I had actually bought the gun.
I must admit I did lose a bit of hair 😆 and sleep over this. It's SATAs fault I'm bald.
Hey man, not sure if you ever figured out the air cap issue but the air caps I don’t think we’re actually defective, when you had your cap pushed in it’s because the part with the air horns is actually designed to snap out to clean it better. Must’ve just gotten pushed in but it wasn’t actually broken
Bit late to the party but... I'm a diy/back yard sprayer so know very little about spraying, I just use my SRI Pro lite and my ANI R150, to my untrained eye its obvious that the sata was either faulty or had a design flaw, I don't know how they are now but it cant help sata's reputation, thanks for the honest review Gunny.
Fair play gunny honest review!!
Great review! Is good when you have facts and data to prove your point.
Svaka ti čast ako si im rekao .
Saying the TRUTH IS LIVING IN THE REAL WORLD, AND MOST IMPORTANT BE HONEST TO YOUR SELF .
You give honest reviews, Sata is just mad because their top tier gun is mediocre at best and people hate the truth
Always keeping it real gunman. Great video. I was excited to try the sata 5500 but not sure now.
Mate, you want to try adjusting a Sata digital as a left hander, it's even more of a joke! I find it much easier to leave it wide open and just use an ANI gauge instead, which defeats the object.
But that damn unnecessary swivel they have makes it impossible to use a standard gauge.
Thanks for giving us your honest opinion ! I just bought a gti pro lite gold with 2 extra aircaps .I have t110 ,20,hv25 air caps WITH 1.2 , 1.3 needle.I did get the 4400b sata mini jet rp air cap version.1.0 ,1.2 needle.
I was looking to buy a SATA gun. So glad I saw this video first. Thanks
I think it's a great guns, happy New year Gunman 👍
If you have a problem with the fan it is likely the "fluid inlet seal", part number 140582. It is a know issue, my guess is when the manufacture test out the spray gun, it is then disassembled to get cleaned. When it is put back together the seal might be getting damaged. Kind of like a valve cover gasket. Can it be put back together after torqueing it down? Yes, but the seal will likely fail sometime later, or leak right away. That is a bad practice so changing out the seal after each disassembly to me is the correct procedure. If I think about it in that way more than likely the problem is the seal, change the seal every time. They sell a pack of 5 for a reason.
part #140582
part #211508
You ever use a wall regulator on your booth. I set mine and go that makes the digital a lot easier and your not adjusting on the gun.
I set mine to 60psi, sometimes we need the extra pressure to blow panels off, and it's on the outside of the booth at this workshop so it's a bit of a pain to adjust for each job. Some guns need more air volume to get up to 29psi too, I also have an air hood to run so I find 60 at the wall is ideal.
Very correct review the most 1.3I have this problem and sata don't recognize this absolute disaster for this money
Thank you for this honest review. I appreciate that. I hope you don't getting trouble with your review.
Great comments gunman.
Must be hard giving such a negative review, I know you don't really want to upset people but from me and the rest of us, thanks for keeping the reviews truthful, cheers 👍
Honestly mate, I had never not wanted to make a video that much, but I'm glad I did after seeing how much my audience appreciated my honesty. All you need to do is read the comments here to see I'm far from the only one to have this issue with these guns. It's one of them things that of it wasn't such a big name gun nobody would care, but SATA has such a diehard following, some SATA fans cannot accept any criticism of their favourite gun.
I know its old video but ive had great results with the 5000 and older 4000,but people are different and people have preferences so its all good
Thanks for the information it is highly appreciated due to the fact that i like you recommendation on all your reviews
Iam fully impressed by this video, you hit up with true to Satas engineering with all your might. Thats keep me right way to Devi guns. Thumbs up!
Happy New Year Gunny!! 🇨🇦🍻🇦🇺My next buy will be a Supernova..got me sold.
Completely agree. I use sata 3&5000 at work and a prolite on the side for my own jobs. I prefer the prolite all day every day.
Jim Benny I have the prolite and it oversprays too much
Happy New Year Gunny! Thank you so much for all the time and effort you put in to making these videos. I have learned so much from watching you. Cheers to you mate for giving an honest review of these overpriced garden hoses 😂. My first spray gun was a Binks #7 siphon feed, and have had many Devilbiss guns over the years. I now have prolites and an iwata lph400. Keep up the vids brother and "paint some shit"
What a way to enter 2019 ! Happy New Year Gunnie! What kind of spray pattern does the Pro lite have is it an I or O pattern ?
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I could hear it again gunny, die hard Sata fans unhappy cause gunman says so. Yea 1000$ I couldn’t afford.
i've always been a Sata guy personally until the jet5000 hvlp came out. i swear all of the hvlp 5000 guns must be defective because everyone i know who has had one thinks and everyone i've tried has been the worst sata i've ever used. the one i purchased when it came out got returned and exchanged for another 4000 hvlp. the 5000 RP is a great gun but they definitely dropped the ball on the hvlp version.
edit: it also doesn't surprise me that sata tried to deny any wrong with the gun, i've seen a sata rep tell a fellow painter with a defective 5000 hvlp that nothing was wrong with it and that's how it's supposed to be. sata does not like to admit problems with their products.
SATA jet5500 to I 1.2 the best
i think its a good gun too. i didn't pay 1000$!!! we got it for 500 something euros. and why should i hold the gun that way to adjust the pressure ??? it does a good job! but have to say i don't like that i have to do 75% overlap now! but still thanks to the gunman he is doing amazing job in the reviews. i only got the I nozzles, just wanted to hear if its worth to get the o nozzles to, i guess its not. well will see
I have two 5500 sata guns base and lacquer I need to do this test very interesting I have never had a problem spraying with them allways gives a nice finish but still makes me think 🤔
Fantastic, love an honest review, cheers bud
Flg5 for life
Until FLG6 .....
I love my GPI 1.4 !
I got flg5 tattooed on my face
I am from Iraq, of course, one of your most loyal followers, I have seen my comment, and his name is Sabbagh, as well as Sham, cars and bicycles. I know how much this price is for a pistol.
Honest man
Glad I waited and will pass on this gun..
Last year they had bad 5000’s and now again ?
I wanted a RP for clear exclusively but now I’ll look at the DV1 ..
I use a WS400 1.3 hd for basecoats but it also lays out clear well but needs to be a 1.2 imho ..
Thanks gun man..
I didn't know they had bad 5000s, what was the issue?
The Gunman they had the very same issue with faulty spray patterns . I’m told everyone is tested by the same two women at Sata for years?
Evidently their eye doctor has changed or their prescription is old.. I just bought a 4400 RP mini and really not impressed with its performance either..
It will not atomize even a low solids clear like the Iwata does.
Damn man!! That just makes them look even worse, at least the guy who tried telling me I was spraying it wrong. I looked on eBay and they're selling in USA for over $1,400 AUD shipped 😱 imagine getting one of these faulty guns for that price.
Everywhere in this world there are companies that sell premium brands. They are no better and in some cases probably worse than other brands but because they are more expensive people will buy them assuming they are the best. Whether that be anything from spray guns, mobile phones, headphones, cars or whatever. As before how can the pot alone on a sata be twice the price of a devilbiss what can possibly make the difference do they put platinum fittings or something.
My grandpa always said, a fool and his money are easily parted.
I HAVE the x5500 hvlp digital 1.4 tip two down fall on this gun is the price $ 950.00 us an the swivel inlet air leaks out when turn at angles but guage or the fan adjustment no problem thumb rest below it like how you was adjusting the air pressure , another thing this put paint on panel which is a plus you end up using less paint
Had much better spray patterns from £30 chinese guns
Happy New Year to you Gunman
Thanks mate 👊 hope you're doing well.
조아요^^ I use supernova.have a nice day gunman.
Dark humour -now sata 5500x spray fan looks like Tony Larimer face
Hi Gunman .. Happy new Year .. John the novice here .. Blind Freddie can see what you are showing … I`ve got 4yo old sata`s and have just bought a Pro Lite after watching your vids ..Seems like you need to fiddle with them all to get it to work properly but the Pro Lite worked first up .. Well it`s made a huge difference to the end finish .. Not as good as yours as my booth is Plastic but I only get a couple of bits of dust .. Easy to deal with … Not knocking Sata`s at all .. But Pro Lite is fantastic …Thanks for keeping everyone well informed Cheers …. Novice John
Thanks mate and good luck with your future projects
I've used Sata all my life, love them, I have 6 ranging from the very first model up to the 5000b RP digital, but now with this honest review I'm starting to wonder if quality is starting to slip, Gunman you like myself use guns every day, straight up you could see this was not right, sadly I was going to purchase the new Sata x-5500, but now I've changed my mind, I might try the DV1, thank you for the honest review.
As I say man, as long as you get it from a reputable seller who's known to deal with faulty tools well and replace if necessary you should be fine, I'm sure they're not all like this, however, I know these ones weren't the only ones from other videos I've seen on RUclips. In saying that, I haven't got anything bad to say about the DV1.
@@TheGunmanChannel Cheers man I watch your vids all the the time very informative, owned my own shop for longer than i remember lol , but yes this test you did was very interesting, and informative considering i have been thinking about this gun since it first come out, at the end of the day the more information we have the better, and i never stop asking questions, the more you ask the more we know, and we never stop learning, thanks for the reply mate much appreciated.
Talk to older painters. It wasn’t until HVLP regulations started that Sata really took off. But Devilbiss and Iwata caught up years ago. Look at something like the Sagola 4600, it’s a pretty innovative gun and it sprays the business. That’s kind of what I’d expect from Sata to pay those prices, industry leading quality tools. Satas are just good guns imo.
I’m def not getting one if two out of three were defective. I’m a Sata guy to. But your a good person been watching forever ain’t no way you would lie about it. I was just looking at these deciding whether to get one or not
Hey gunman
I have the same patten problem but with one of my 'basecoat' pro lite with 1.2 te 10
But my 5000 1.3 rp
Sprays absulutly top ...
And yes the pressure adjustment is hmmm 🤔
But with an regulator it works.... 👍
1000 Dollar for a sata
..... my gti pro lite was 300€ and my sata jet 5000 rp 420€
1000$ ...you are right that is much to much...
The jet 5500x is here 650 € the dv1 650€ and the supernova 800€
I think this is to much !
A pro lite can do the same ... and is more flexibel in use ,only an other aircap and you have an hvlp... 😉
I believe sata will have the custumers back they have loose with there jet 4000 🤣
The O and I by the 5500x is a step to devilbiss and anest iwata 🤔
Awesome real world feedback dude!!
Being a left hand sprayer , fan adjust knob doesn’t get in the way . See lefty’s do have a upper hand
That was a great test procedure to show up the problem with the spray pattern---- as always, good work gunny.
Will SATA fess up or will they remain silent ???
adjust the pressure at the regulator keep the gun wide open.
My sata rp 1.3 5000 has corrosion and had it within 2 years still works fine but bang for buck devillbus gti has a lot going for it
One thing I have always disliked about Sata is as you have mentioned the air micrometer however stiffness and fidgety setting of the pressure is mainly due to static line pressure being to high so I set my line pressure at what Sata recommend which is 4 BAR however just like you I will never like the micrometer set up which also tends to wear out fast
Hi Gunny .....awesome videos and spray gun reviews. Your reviews always informative and you always to the point with your opinion and experience with new spray guns. Is there maybe a possibility that u will do a review on the Satajet 1500 B?
I just got one and was getting a better finish with the old 5000 and I was getting fed up I played about and now spray at 3 bar and it's like glass shows that not one setup works for app clear etc
I prefer my pro lites to the Sata5500 to me they spray like a cannon not my style gun but after a short period I got used to them settling up less pressure to suit my painting style still great guns but don't compare to devilbiss in my opinion
lol it’s stiff and hard to adjust because you have too much pressure going to your gun , you need to regulate from wall keep micrometer wide open then make “micro” adjustment hence micrometer term
They're stuff without any air up to them. They're called a manometer not micrometre. Micrometres measure thickness while manometers gauge pressure. I also only ever run 60 psi at the wall for that reason, just enough to run my air fed respirator and gun.
The air caps can be extremely sensitive. After the 3000 I feel like the metal they use hasn’t the same quality. They still are the best guns on the market.
Thankfully there are so many guns on the market to suit everyone. Used to clear with my trusted supernova lotus at work, but the paint rep wanted to show me the x5500 (tried the 1.3 I) and the dv1. Was very hesitant since i didnt like the 5000 hose machine, but instantly fell in love with the x5500 which is now my main clear gun. But i can understand the frustration since you got 2 defective one, gabriel from motivated also mentioned a funny pattern on his hvlp. But as i said i love the gun, and i am not a sata fan by any means. Also a huge role is the price, the paint rep here offerd me one for 400 euros, i wouldnt justify it if it was as expensive as in australia. Still have no idea how they could be so much more expensive there
Totally agree with the pressure adjustment for such an expensive gun...the Adams are the way to go but then you have a $1000 investment by then...haha...but people keep paying it...it’s like Nike...$300 for sneakers cuz they say Jordan. SMH. Not a fan of Sata O either but the 1.3 i rp is a great gun.
I have several sata guns including the x5500 and I just dont like any of them very much! Iwata super nova is great, Devilbiss Tekna is great! Sata guns always are harder to use and easier to run. Thick and chunky describes them perfectly!
انا مصري ومعجب باعمالكم واعمل في مجال دهان السيارات واتقن عمليه تجيز السياره وعمليه الرش داخل كبينه الرش وارغب في معرفه ضبط الهواء والبويه بالطريقه السليمه لديكم في رش البويه العاده والميتالك واعلم ان عامل اللغه يمنعني من التواصل فهل ممكن تسهيل ذاك وشكرا
Gun man your are da man !
Things must be different I’m the UK . Here in the states it’s Sata. And Iwata
i have 3 sata spraygun 5000b hvlp for base coat , sata 1000b rp clearcoat alone , sata 4000b rp solid color or basecoat an sometimes clear.
the only thing i fine is 4000 gives a little more orange peel when spraying clear good for european vehicle . no issue with the 1000b lay down clear like glass with full fan 5000hvlp just close the fan pattern about 1/4 turn .
didn't know sata had new gun thanks for the reviews but u right they are pretty expensive i pay around $5,000-$8,000 trinidad dollar for 1 of those guns devilbliss prolite or gti around $4,000-$7,000.
Writing from Brantford, Ontario, Canada. Where icily cold here right now of -6C. Good time to review your videos. Looking for A spray guns list of best guns to buy for my Spray season up here April 15 to Oct. 30.
One gun can not do every job.
So have broke it down into categories.
1) Best Gun for applying finish Colour coat and clear on a car.
2) Best Gun for applying Primer to auto body panels. Fenders, door panels, hoods (bonnets), trunk lids (boot doors), etc.
3) Best Gun for spraying finish top coat and clear on engines, transmissions, rear ends, drive shafts, suspension parts (springs, control arms, struts, car rims, gasoline tanks, inside bumper steel reinforcement parts, etc.)
Looking to buy Best guns, with so many guns on the market, you know your guns and could narrow it down faster then me.
Watching some other videos from the USA, these cheap guns (copies of Sata, etc. from Harbour Freight, will they do as well as a high end gun. This was from a professional painter. He's saying it's all in the painter using the gun.
I know it may or may not be true. But better high guns will have better materials, better jets, machined or ground needles. better knobs, chrome, design, etc.
Thanks,
From the Great White North
thx
Devilbliss for the win. Not sorry to say my gti is the best all around gun
You ramble took much
I had this exact problem with a gti pro and pro lite. On both guns the baffle, fluid tip and air cap were sitting offset 0.5mm to the right of the gun causing the needle to rub on one side of the tip.
Did they replace them?
Sorry for late reply. No they didnt replace them but did get a credit. Ive spoken to a few other people who had the same problem. Its a shame because i really want to give one a proper try. Im gonna wait a few more months and buy another. Knowing my luck there was a bad batch right at the time i decided to buy one haha.
my Devilbiss GTI pro lite is the same it bulds up material on the right side when you look infront the nozzle and the aircap
Great demo. 👍
I only have sata jet at my work thats what they have i don’t own a spray gun, they just buy them all i want. Please tell me about a gun i should buy because i want the truth. Don’t apologize for being honest. I want the honest review. Thanks subbed