BJJ Blue Belt Consumed With Terrifying Fear of Heel Hooks & Leg Locks
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- Recently I did an AMA over on Reddit and I got this question about being scared of leg locks in BJJ. The question comes from someone who has been doing Brazilian Jiu-jitsu for about 3 years, I believe he is a Blue Belt, and recently he's developed a terrible fear of twisting leg locks like heel hooks.
Now he's competed in tournaments before and has plans to do more in the future but he's scared that as he get's more experienced and higher level in Brazilian Jiujitsu competitions he will be subjected to rules that allow them. And with that the worry of getting caught and injured permanently is on his mind.
In this video I share how I was afraid of leg locks for a long time because of an injury I sustained early on in my training.
I also discuss how I overcame the fear of the leg locks and began adding them into my Brazilian Jiujitsu not by running away from them but by purposely moving towards them. I also touch on the training strategies I used to do this.
If you're having a lot of fear about leg locks or any other position or technique in BJJ. Then I hope this video is useful to you in overcoming those fears.
Talk to you next time!
-Chewy
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Leg locks are so dangerous that even talking about them bring ambulances over
lmfao
This is soooo easy.
1) Learn them really well, because then you will understand the offense and defense.
2) If you understand the offense, you will know when it is time to tap.
3) If you learn leg locks, then you will understand the defense and how deep into the attack they are.
4) Drop the ego and tap early.
5) After you tap, ask them how they would have defended so you can learn.
6) Get your leg mercilessly torn apart in competition and restart
His fear is genuine. A white belt wrenched my leg in some sort of frantic attempt to do a lock and managed to tear my MCL. Luckily it was only a partial tear and after months has healed up, but it was so close to causing me serious financial burden and potential permanent injury. There was no such thing as "tapping early" because he didn't understand the danger of what he was doing and wrenched with all his speed and strength.
I would have so pissed if someone did that to me
Woohoo my question got a video! Thank you for your input, Chewy! Helped me a ton 🤙🏻🤙🏻
William Z Saint Chewy The Black Belt :)
It would be awesome if you gave us an update at some point in the future.
Bro great question, I’m a new blue belt and absolutely have this fear. I like my knees
The catch and release technique is awesome! Plus I think it's the only way you can safely integrate heel hooks into rolling. No way would I spar hard with heel hooks allowed.
Every single person at my gym knows and practices heel hooks. We also have a degree of recognition and control so that it's basically "Go hard, UNTIL you get that lock. Once you've got a good lock, you stop. They'll tap"
@@gearsgames4931 that's how we do it as well
Once the hands and leg position are set for solid breaking mechanics it's mainly about control and not damaging your training partner by unnecessarily applying pressure 100% like a crazy person.
If you have to apply the pressure erratically to get the tap you probably have subpar position, control, and and lack proper breaking mechanics
Omg. Same here! 3 years and a blue belt too. I need my legs for work.
This is why I love the fact that my school teaches leg locks to white belts even kids. We learn how to implement them but very slowly so you don't tare somebody's knee apart. In fact I think I'm the only one to get injured in a heel hook in 2 years. And that's because tap snap or nap I made the wrong choice.
My coach teaxhes leg locks and heel hooks to everyonr VERY early on. Mostly so we know it's out there, but so we also do them safely.
I compete and it's VERY obvious who comes from a gym that doesn't train or allow leg locks. They never tap in time and get their ankles busted. Mostly because they have no idea what is about to happen.
Man, I really wish I could go train at your gym, it seems so humbling. I
recently subbed to your channel and I've been watching a lot of your
videos and I love your philosophy and explanations. I'm a white belt and
your videos help a lot man, especially this one since I'm terrified of leg locks...Saludos from Costa Rica to all my BJJ brothers!
I'm scared of leg locks too I thought I was the only one 😅
The cure: practice more leg locks. Find some CACC guys to help you if there are any in your area. Catch loves bending, twisting, hooking, and locking the legs. With the right buddies, you'll get used to it.
I guess I'll be first one to ask.... why would you ignore 50 percent of the body?
@@AD-jz3hd How observant
@@AD-jz3hd And to think I thought everyone on the internet was stupid. You proved me wrong. I gotta try to be more clever.
@@AD-jz3hd lol, so ur dum or wat?
I see some serious negativity about this “stolen quote” already.
Life is a LONG lesson. Hopefully here you have learned that if you had posted:
“Why would you ignore half the human body?” - Dean Lister
You probably would have received nothing but “Thumbs Up.”
As I was taught by my coaches, Guro Dan Inosanto and Sifu Larry Hartsell, to always give credit to who you learned the material from. It is respectful.
What you did was steal, technically. This was not your idea or words.
My humble suggestion would be to delete the original post and properly give The Great Dean Lister credit...just like John Danaher did. You did not learn from Professor Danaher’s example. He gave Dean Lister the credit.
I agree. Once you get better at leg locks they just become apart of BJJ instead of some unique crazy thing to worry about
This video was aimed right at me. Preciate the video as always Chewy
common question! Great content as always, Chewy
Soo good you are doing this video brother. I personally avoid particulair students from who i know are wild on rolling and trying to get submissions. I have three or four training partners who i trust and who trust me i am known for searching youtube especially your channel for nice submissions and ninja techiques but iam also known to take care of my brothers on the mat i would never lock twist pop or smash anyone and if i have some new awesome thing to try out i do it slowly and controlled so we all can see and feel how it works. So important and so easely damaged that it is essential to do it that way. Great video brother 👊🏻👍🏻
The white belt description you gave happens so often for white and blue belts. I feel kinda obligated to let them go and tell them after the roll so they don't get their knee torn apart by someone who doesn't know better.
well, i dont agree i guess. i fear heel hooks. i learned them long time before i startet bjj and always been told they are dangerous af. i do leg locks, also love the toe hold (and know they are really bad too)
talked with a black belt once about it. he gave me the same example like you (just tap if its on, like when you have a full armbar on). i do agree you should train it, know about it.
the point i dont agree: the heel hook is the submission with the lowest range of motion between catch a limb and actually do damage. for example there is a lot of way for your arm to travel to be brocken in an armlock. so a lot of reaction time. no matter how fast you do it, with same speed the heel hook will always be more dangerous. (for the same reason, people hate wristlocks, toe holds and some sort of sneaky shoulder locks) second, the damage to your knee is one of the worst that can happen in my opinion.
i do bjj for fun, i dont compete. if i go compete, i check the rules and wont compete if heel hocks are legal. i dont like them to be done in sparring too, you can "catch" the position, but not go for submission, i just tap and tell people i dont like it.
uipize you're very reasonable about it. just check the rules before you agree to terms. be well
Agree. After a white belt gave me a partial tear of my MCL and caused me serious injury for months from them trying to wrench some ill-conceived notion of a leg lock, I don't play around anymore. He didn't have a genuine technique, only twisted my leg as hard and fast as he could. There was no time to tap before the damage was done. Had he had a real lock like a heel hook on me, I would have needed surgery just to walk. The white belt mentality is just not there for doing the leg game. Their egos are still "win at all costs". Now, I even feel sketchy doing them with purple belts and absolutely won't roll leg lock with white and blue anymore.
Love you Chewy. They're scary but hoping knowledge and training keeps me injury free! 💪🏾🙏🏾
Thanks, man. I hate leg locks but like everything is difficult before it is easy or easier.
Man this is exactly what i wanted an opinion your rock.
Most of the time if I get caught in the gym I just go ahead and yell tap before they start pulling it. Especially with white belts. I have no shame in tapping quick from leg locks
smart
I love no-gi, but my fear of leg locks and knee injuries keeps me from going to those classes for the moment. I simply cannot weather that magnitude of injury at this point in my life.
Can't go fishing for leg locks without a license!! 😂😂
I like the catch and release idea! Not just for the legs
+William Z +Chewjitsu
SUCH a relevant topic/question. I (personally) focus on "Ashi garame/control" of my training partner, a LOT more than the actual submission (leglock). When i have control, i then and only then put on the submission(slowly). This way helps for "me" to understand the mechanics for when i get caught. Leglocks, opposed to other submissions come on super quick(obviously) which is why "i think" it is SUPER important to be "inoculated" to leglocks. Some gyms just don't.
(Just my thoughts as a fellow blue belt)
Thanks for bringing this up and for the response.!!
Ashi garami? You spelled Achilles lock wrong!
lol jk you do you.
Hahaha Sorry, my bad, I'm not Japanese but, Ashi Garami means "Leg entanglement". wasn't referring to any Leglock in particular. haha.
If I had money I would pay to watch you and Eddie Bravo do a podcast about in-depth BJJ.. I'm going to pray to all the gods that that happens.. you learn so much more than you think you would from listening to someone explain it..
Haha keep I guess keep your fingers crossed.
By far one of your best videos man most teachers don't want to teach any leg locks to lower belts. We have like lock Mondays in my gym and I am starting to catch blue belts with ankle locks and I'm only a white belt thats because they dont train legs locks lol.
Tap early!!! Yeeee. Gotta keep these knees..gon need em to run around shooting my own RUclips videos..Do like downhill shoulder rolls! Lolol love the Channel and Vids! Keep Rollin🤙✌️
i think the first submission i learned at the gym was an ankle lock. it was my first contact class at the gym 2 months into starting (no contact during quarantine when i started). it was probably good to learn it early in that sort of controlled situation.
Train only with people you totally trust. After awhile you recognize the positions and you can tap before any injury. You tap when you cant get out of the position, not when you feel pain.
Chewy I saw a video of a no gi competition , this guy did a heal hook on his opponent and dislocated his knee . The guy doing the leg lock broke down apologizing saying he never wanted to compete again . As a white belt I don't know how to do heel hooks and probably for good reason, but i at LEAST want to know how to defend them .
I'm a new blue belt who's been playing around with snatching the leg lock position on white belts (safely, of course).
My first martial art was Sambo where I was getting leg locked a month in and I got leglocked by a 10th Planet guy a month ago during my first competition. Both times I came away fine with no injuries.
I'm not scared of them at all because of my experience with them, though I totally get the apprehension. My exposure to them has actually made me super curious to learn it mself.
Once you learn to safely apply them, leglocks open up so much in your BJJ game.
Was that white belt okay or was his knee jacked up permanently
he died
@@ingentingvirke What! You've gotta be joking right?
No. He really died.
@@rickybloss8537 No joke. It was a very sad story.
@@Marxorz how did he die from knee injury?
This was a great 👍🏼 video & very helpful to me. I’ve gotten a good # of straight ankle locks, but like with wrist locks I generally don’t crank them on hard for fear of breaking something. However, heel hooks, toe holds, & knee bars I only position them and let them go - sort of catch & release without ever tightening them up. I really need to work on these a lot more...
I’m 41. I’m a fast tapper. I’ll try to escape an arm bar or leg lock for about .1 milliseconds, then I tap.
I'm 21, I do the same thing
Back when i was a teenager all i did was leg locks for about a year. Little did i know i was reaping the knee. Im about ten years older now and i really wont even attack the lower body for the same reason
I accidentally knee reaped a guy in competition. Wasnt even going for it and it was a total accident. The end result was his MCL getting torn and his ACL got a partial tear.
They work because the torque you exert at the ankle becomes increased dramatically at the knee. It's akin to the arm bar because you are applying force far away from the elbow, causing it to rotate and it generates more torque at the axis of rotation. Keep training y'all.
Every gym is different. I made a mistake just this week throwing a leg lock on a fellow blue belt at a new gym ive been training at without knowing the gyms rules. A scolding ensued. At this gym, only browns and black belts do leg locks. Anyways, no one hurt. Lesson learned. Every gyms is different, don't forget to ask the coach.
catch and release is brilliant !
Watching this after my friend caught me in one today. We were rolling, I was trying to move around on top of him, then I heard him say, “tap out, now.”
Me: “heh?”
Him: “Look. Heel hook.”
The ambalampse was responding to a call for knee pain @ Derby City MMA
Hahah.
We're scared of what we don't understand. I was pretty scared of them, been training heel hookin' and transitions the last few months, and guess what.. THEY FUUUN :D
Helpful video. Thank you
I love leg locks and Ankle locks, im nothing special however it is surprising to see how some people never expect to have their legs attacked. As a wrestler I've used my weight on someone to spin over and then ankle pick them like in wrestling once they base because they never see it coming. I had a purple belt during one training ask if I did wrestling because I did the pcik on him and he admitted he didn't think that what was gonna be my move, he still escaped and got me in guard but still if they don't see it coming it throws people off
Omg this has been my biggest fear even before I started
That ambulance was picking up a broken leg.
I miss my ACL
Me too… wrestling and outside passing without it suffers
Chewie!!!! Listen I’m a White Belt and I’m about 3 months into it, so I’m on my back a lot and am very sore. Would you suggest a massage or go get adjusted by a chiropractor? Big fan!
7 months in white belt here. It gets better, but slowly. I dealed with it with stretches and some anti inflammatory meds.
I'm not chewie so take my advice or leave it. I used to have ridiculous pain that has left me lying on my bathroom floor unable to move. My elbows, ankles, shoulders, knees, neck and back all took turns feeling like they were on fire.. Then I started a two pronged solution. One is yoga. I do a little yoga outside of jiu jitsu. Maybe 1 hour a week. But most importantly is I do a quick yoga cool down immediately after every training session while my body is still warm. I do hamstring stretch butterfly ( lotus if you can) updog cat/cow down dog into a Calf stretch. Then I do some simple neck/arm stretching you learn in basic gym class that isn't really yoga. The second approach is an anti inflammatory diet. Turmeric ginger rosemary and cloves ate the big four anti inflammatory ingredients I use. Along with some Omega 3 from flax chia or seaweed (salmon has a lot too but I don't eat fish). Ever since then I might get a little pain here or there but nothing that has be lying on the bathroom floor. And the stuff I do get goes away fast.
@@brandonswan9247 Actually the anti inflammatory diet souds like a great idea...
Well, if you have bad form maybe seek some medical help. Sit-ups can be back for your back due to the sheering that bad form has on your spine, but good form and reduce that damage. If your pain is due to being put in bad positions or your own forms not being perfect yet, chronic damage may start to build up. The best thing is to consult a doctor and observe your pain. If it goes up over time, report it. If it goes down, great, but keep an eye on it.
Anti inflammatory diet, curcumin, omega 3, cold showers, near infrared sauna, intermittent fasting, magnesium oil
leglocks are a great equalizer for annoying open guards
Man, I got my arm twisted behind my back, there were 3 of us wrestling so I had a guy in front of me with my other arm locked around his neck. I got cramp in my arm trapped behind me and the cramp went right through my body stopping everything, they had to do CPR, I saw the light at the end of the tunnel stuff etc. I've been terrified of getting my arm trapped anywhere while wrestling, even now at the age of 57 (this happened at high school) although I don't go at it as hard as I use to. Point is, I still got that phobia but have worked out how to mitigate the issue, tapping out is my biggest saviour. We were mucking about, the reason why 3 of us were wrestling at the same time.
If someone gets me in one Ill try and pull out but if I can’t I’ll just tap, because they don’t even hurt till the next day so no point having to be in pain during work the next day
AMALAMPSS!!!
Hey Chewy! Im new to Jiu jitsu and am a white belt who has only been training for about a month now. Typically i train 3-4 times a week. I have had many injuries since starting and im wondering if there is anything i can do to reduce the likelihood of being injured? I am 27 and very athletic. I normally workout 5-7 times per week on top of jiu jitsu. I really like this sport and definitely see it as a lifetime endeavor for myself but want to also preserve my health....help much appreciated!
Sounds like you’re doing way too much in physical output. An under-recovered/over-trained body is more susceptible to injury. Try de-loading. Lessen your workouts to 2x per week and keep them simple and easy. Space jiujitsu out by a day. Recover recover recover.
Kenny Dean hit the nail on the head
@@kidneykenny good points, thank you.
@INTOtheVOID11 its one of the best local gyms in my area.
I think its more of a "me" thing than the gym.
Probably rolling hard and spazzy too causing you to injure yourself or upper belts to roll hard back. Chilllll
Hey Chewy. I am new to bjj and have been training one month. I have gotten tremendously better, but still dont know much. Towards the end of the class when its time to roll and i am rolling with higher belts, I feel like because i am a beginner they get bored while rolling. It feels like i wasted their time. The rounds are 6 minutes, and to try to compensate for my boring roll, i tell my partner to just go all out for the last minute. I am able to defend for about 30 seconds, then get put in a submission. Is this a good idea, or should I stop telling them to go all out?Thanks.
how are you doing now
Amberlamps
Ambulance on the way to pick up someone who's been heelhooked
As a white belt I learned to tap quick af
hey r u by chance a fan of elliot hulse. its so weird ur cadence just seems so similar (no knock on u)
Ponerdomo wow use to watch that guy forever ago and never made that connection. Freaky
Ha fire rescue thing.
what's your favorite martial arts type movie?
Nice vid
Max The Jackrabbit I think you’re the first comment! You’re the only one I can see now!
@@norigib6186 it aint that deep😂
Rousimar Palhares
This guy reminds me so much of that other RUclipsr Yo Elliott
*Ambalamce*
Im scared of heel hooks too 😅😅😅
Can’t get caught in leg locks if you’ve got no legs
Don’t touch ma feet
This is actuallyme
Just compete in ifbjj tournaments heel hooks are illegal there.
why be scared of them.. just tap man.. that's all.
#FirstClap
Amber Lamps haha
LMAOOOOO DEMOTE HIM #HIDEYOFEET
come to 10th planet 😆
Sooooooo.....you and your buddies use to wrestle in your basement????
We have classes where it just wrestling with leg locks.
everyone scared of heel/leg locks since Joe Rogan taught them about Palhares
Scarred of leg locks? Only BJJ'ers. Ga-ga-gay
No need to fear leglocks, cause they don’t work 🤷♂️
Leglocks Don‘t work 😂😂
I am afraid of even attacking dudes with heel hooks let alone getting caught in one.