PowKiddy A13 Hardware Mods -- Buttons, Joystick, and Weight Rebalance

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  • Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2024

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  • @MilwaukeeMax
    @MilwaukeeMax 2 года назад +3

    I just finished this upgrade with the exact same parts. I had no issues with the buttons or wires, but ran into a major issue when trying to remove the mounting plate on the Sanwa joystick. I’m not sure if Sanwa doesn’t want customers doing this mod anymore, but the Sanwa joystick I got had pretty strong Loctite screw adhesives holding the mounting plate in strongly enough that I stripped two of the screw heads trying to take them out. I finally gave up on your method because of this and put the screws back in tightly and used a Dremel tool to grind away enough space on the outer plate holes so that it would fit into the case properly. This turned out to work perfectly and the upgrade is complete and so much better than the cheap buttons and joystick it shipped with. Thanks for the detailed instructions on doing this! Just thought you should know of complications others might come across with new hardware from Sanwa.

  • @risingdawn5259
    @risingdawn5259 3 года назад +6

    I think this is going to be my next project! If I could get all those components out of the case I may use my airbrush to change the colouring and give it a matt varnish with acrylics, then find some decals to finish it off

  • @MashTec
    @MashTec 3 года назад +5

    Wow...your A13 looks gorgeous! Very nice mod dude. Thanks for the video.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад

      My pleasure MashTec, can't wait to see what you do with yours!

  • @Adam-rw4xk
    @Adam-rw4xk 3 года назад +3

    This video is so useful to anyone modding this. Can't thank you enough!

  • @jar768jake
    @jar768jake 3 года назад +2

    Using the old metal plate to allow the new joystick to fit in the device, or in general, installing something new, but using a piece from the old part, in order to help it function properly, is called "Retro Fitting" which is very appropriate in this situation.

  • @Beavernator
    @Beavernator 3 года назад +8

    Welp... Looks like this is what I will be getting and modding for my daughter for her birthday...

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад +1

      It's a lot of fun to mess with!

    • @Beavernator
      @Beavernator 3 года назад

      @@RetroGameCorps These are much more fun to tinker with... The M.A.M.E. machine I built like 10 years ago took me like 6 months to finish... Built a racing simulator for my daughter for her 10th birthday last year and that thing was way harder to setup than I anticipated...
      These are great learning items to really get inside the machine without worrying about breaking a thousand dollar item... Man, how time flies...

  • @Mandinforever
    @Mandinforever 3 года назад +1

    Man your reviews are so enjoyable and detailed

  • @twoodall88
    @twoodall88 3 года назад

    Super clean look with the mods. Well done

  • @andydavidson1278
    @andydavidson1278 3 года назад

    Just finished doing these mods😖😅😝
    Was fiddly at times, and I was really concerned it wouldn’t turn on again after, but it worked!😃
    Went for Ash(grey), Blue, Pink buttons and a green ball top😃

  • @sashahenriksen
    @sashahenriksen 3 года назад

    youve convinced me to buy it, i am a big fan of beatemups and i feel like this would be perfect to play those on especially with the software and hardware mods. Your channel rocks

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад +1

      The new hardware really elevates the experience - you're going to love it!

  • @brownranger1797
    @brownranger1797 3 года назад

    Love the mods, I think hitting the small start select and volume control buttons with of coat of blue or black spray paint would help to break up the redness as well. Keep up the great content 👏

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад +1

      I've been thinking about painting it, my wife just bought some nice black matte spraypaint that may just do the trick...

  • @TriEdgeGaming
    @TriEdgeGaming 3 года назад +1

    sanwa's are my favorite. they provide such a satisfying feel.

  • @jasonshiers5771
    @jasonshiers5771 3 года назад

    Pimped up, looks brilliant.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад

      Thanks, I hope it'll look even better with a new custom sticker!

  • @MoreTechSir
    @MoreTechSir 3 года назад +2

    The channel that just keeps on giving :D

  • @cooolpotato
    @cooolpotato 3 года назад

    I think you really hit the nail on the head with this colour combo - scrolling through components I'm having a hard time finding another combination to rival it.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! I just tried to take away as much red as possible.

  • @TacticalHamburger
    @TacticalHamburger 3 года назад

    Nice. It's also good to see that asides from the non-standard joystick mounting plate, it's all fairly standard sized stuff inside.
    Personally, instead of going the Sanwa JLFD-TP-8YT detachable lever route, I would have tried using a standard Sanwa JLF joystick (or just kept the stock joystick assuming that it is just a JLF clone) in combination with a Phreakmods EX-Groove Link quick release shaft, assuming that it would still fit in the holder (the Link shaft diameter is equivalent to a standard JLF shaft + normal shaft cover, whereas the overall diameter of the Sanwa detachable shaft + detchable shaft-specific cover appears to be larger than that). The shaft itself costs about as much as the entire detachable lever Sanwa joystick, so that may make it a little more cost prohibitive given what it would be going in, but it's attachment/detachment mechanism is much faster, although it's installation may be a bit tricky for someone inexperienced with joystick modding.
    As for the buttons, I think I would go with Crown 202 MX buttons, which make use of Cherry MX keyboard switches inside, and are hotswap compatible with a wide variety of other MX or MX-compatible switches, allowing you to really dial in the feel you want.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад

      I was looking at that Phreakmods shaft, maybe I will go that route some other time. Thanks for the notes re: buttons!

    • @kimble02
      @kimble02 3 года назад

      Ha! I just posted the same thing. I have a EX Groove I was going to try out. It does hold the dust cover though. I guess I’ll just take it off. Hopefully it fits in the compartment. Eagerly waiting for my unit to arrive!

  • @xl_9
    @xl_9 3 года назад +5

    I feel that soon you will be experimenting more with mods and maybe even 3D printing, imagine a new case with compartments for all the parts :D
    Ideas go wild!

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад +3

      I definitely don't have the room for a 3D printer, but that would totally be awesome :)

    • @kimble02
      @kimble02 3 года назад

      Even light up clear buttons would be cool for this unit. Love the form factor!

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад

      @@kimble02 That would be very nice!

  • @robknott1597
    @robknott1597 3 года назад

    love it! things amazing another great video!

  • @TN_AU
    @TN_AU 3 года назад +3

    This device is really growing on me now with the mods.
    EDIT:
    As of this edit, the detachable joystick are all sold out.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад

      Yeah unfortunately they're out of stock -- hopefully they restock soon!

    • @kimble02
      @kimble02 3 года назад

      Maybe look at a normal sanwa stick with a Phreak Mods The Link. The latest version holds the dust cover in place with the stick, so you’d need an older version of you want to store it. Oh, and I haven’t tested the shaft yet to see if it fits in the compartment either so it’s a risk either way. I’ll post my findings here once I get my A13!

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад

      @@kimble02 Looking forward to seeing what you come up with, thanks! That Phreak Mods one looks nice.

    • @kimble02
      @kimble02 3 года назад

      @@RetroGameCorps well... got my unit and man oh man is that wiggly stick wiggly. Tried the Phreak Mods and it’s too wide to fit in the storage compartment.😞 I was thinking about doing a stick tear down and swapping out the shafts but found another site where the detachable screw tops are available. So I went the easy route. I’m doing the EZ mods but planning a pi install. The battery pack is the one part that’s getting me. Not sure if I’ll have to use a voltage drop down module. Seems like that’s a heavy possibility.

  • @JamesLoweryHypnotherapy
    @JamesLoweryHypnotherapy 3 года назад

    I'm planning on doing this with my favorite Sanwa setup which uses the JLF but adds an octoganal gate, two pound spring, and a Kowal oversized actuator.

  • @Bob_Betty
    @Bob_Betty 9 дней назад

    Definite upgrade! Looking on Ali Express now as the website is American, any suggest Ali Express affiliate links? The device now is half the price as per your original video, an absolute steal for Christmas time. Even if it's for me not kids ;)

  • @mkonji8522
    @mkonji8522 3 года назад

    I got one of these and also hated the red. I ended up getting some black Rit liquid dye from Walmart and dyed it black in a large pot with the heated-up dye.

  • @ejpmonline
    @ejpmonline 3 года назад

    I hope powkiddy would release an android version of this with an upgraded cpu maybe 1.5ghz quadcore then it'll be an amazing portable android arcade! WAO! XD amazing video!

  • @cheatsheet3325
    @cheatsheet3325 3 года назад +1

    How are the weights working out? Does the unit stay in place during fighting game inputs, etc?

  • @tiagohermangameplays
    @tiagohermangameplays Год назад

    Loved

  • @SanchezS
    @SanchezS 3 года назад

    Well done you’re great. 👍

  • @JamesLoweryHypnotherapy
    @JamesLoweryHypnotherapy 3 года назад +1

    Okay. I might as well mention it on here since this video encouraged me to mod the device to begin with. Sadly I do believe the power button has broken, and I'm not quite sure if it's the switch attached to the motherboard or if its the plastic pushbutton giving me issues. The pushbutton will not "lock" in place once pressed nor will it turn on the device unless pressed in extremely hard. Also, unfortunately the sd card fell out and broke in half. Now, I know you can buy the motherboard for the device separately on Aliexpress and that it supposedly comes preloaded with 9000 games but do I even need to do this? Would it solve anything or is there a simpler solution? Help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks.

  • @mzterzi
    @mzterzi 3 года назад

    Good job👍👏

  • @systemshocker2875
    @systemshocker2875 3 года назад

    Aparently,Sonic Love is modding his powkiddy. He's putting in a Pi4.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад

      Yeah there's a video of someone doing it already. It was a BEAST of a mod, way above my skill range. Hope Sonic Love can pull it off!

  • @michaels-h5539
    @michaels-h5539 2 года назад

    Hey, nice video, thanks.
    Thinking about buying this device but it'd be mainly to play vertical shoot them up games. Do you think it'd be possible to open the top part (where the screen is) to see if the screen can be rotate somehow? I was thinking about maybe cutting the top part of the plastic so that the screen could go outside with no problem (not too neat but really looking for a vertical screen, I just wonder if it seems that top part could be easily opened?)

  • @ultramaster.
    @ultramaster. Год назад

    Tip: I successfully removed the button cables with a bent tweezer without damaging it.

  • @GMANIFESS
    @GMANIFESS 2 года назад

    Mine won't power on. The screen just blinks. Any suggestions?

  • @jsuritz1
    @jsuritz1 3 года назад +1

    Is there a reason why I can't get this device delivered to me in Illinois from the link tour provided us?

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад

      Hmmm, that is odd. Maybe try the official PowKiddy store on AliExpress?

    • @kimble02
      @kimble02 3 года назад

      A seller just started selling them on Amazon as well. I scooped one up today after watching the firmware update vid. Retro game Corps should be getting royalties. I think he’s helping Powkiddy sell a bunch of units!!!!

    • @cooolpotato
      @cooolpotato 3 года назад

      Aliexpress has a large selection of them.

  • @trinicade7574
    @trinicade7574 3 года назад

    Well done. For me, the A13 has been a pain to mod. I broke the power button and might not receive the replacement part from China.
    You might want to add rubber foam to the bottom for better grip. Cheers.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад +1

      Good point on the foam, sorry to hear you've had issues. I had heard about the power button so I was super careful with mine.

  • @MaximoToro
    @MaximoToro 2 года назад

    Any mods to keep it stable while playing fighting games? As in a suction cup mod or maybe drill holes to screw it down on a table, or clamp it down somehow, etc

  • @Profound79
    @Profound79 3 месяца назад

    I just got my PowKiddy A13 and I am ready to mod it. However, my on/ off power button is different to the one you have. I believe it is called a "rocker switch" with a red button housed in a square black plastic base. Do you know of anyone that has tried dismantling the case with this type of switch and would it be easier and less of a risk? Please let me know if you have any advice. It would be appreciated. Thanks for doing the video.

  • @kimble02
    @kimble02 3 года назад

    To avoid losing the plastic cover I wonder if you can just buy a normal sanwa stick and use a Phreak Mods unit to make the stick detachable? It shoullld fit in the compartment. And the shaft won’t spin out. Just ordered my A13 and already have a Phreak Mods shaft so I’ll test it and post when I find out.👍🏼

  • @FernandoLagunes
    @FernandoLagunes 3 года назад +1

    I'm having issues with my A13 overheating and it stops after about an hour or so. Do you have the same issue? I'm thinking on putting some heat sinks and even a small fan and some holes.

    • @penismightier9278
      @penismightier9278 3 года назад +1

      I was actually expecting that to be one of the mods he did. Good to know someone else is (was?) thinking about doing it. How'd it turn out if you did it?

    • @FernandoLagunes
      @FernandoLagunes 3 года назад +1

      @@penismightier9278 it turned out pretty good. I did both mods (heat sinks for raspberry pi and a small 5V fan) and even though it still gets warm, I can play a lot longer without issues.

    • @penismightier9278
      @penismightier9278 3 года назад

      @@FernandoLagunes Now that you've installed a fan on it, how is the battery life? How difficult was it to add the fan? Any soldering required?

    • @FernandoLagunes
      @FernandoLagunes 3 года назад

      @@penismightier9278 I don't see any significant difference in the battery. You do have to solder, but it's easy. If you want, send me an email and I'll send you some pictures. f_lag23 hotmail

  • @ousha5011
    @ousha5011 2 года назад

    Hi, Can 2 of those machines linked together for some local multipler for some Neo-Geo beat em up games, like on the real old school arcade machine?

  • @domokun87
    @domokun87 3 года назад

    Awesome job! Do you have to use a low-profile button? Wondering if you could recommend some alternatives.

  • @chunkydunkydiabetic1187
    @chunkydunkydiabetic1187 Год назад

    "...but hey, it works"
    I fell off my chair, the way you trailed off with that one 😂 you're funny as hell, bro, I subbed from that alone✊️. Just finished loading everything from ps1-genesis on my new RS-07, it was a test to see if I'd enjoy one of these. I definitely do, I'll be ordering an a13 soon. Did you ever think of shitting custom-RGB all over one of these? 💩 😂

  • @lkhoe23
    @lkhoe23 3 года назад

    Hi. Is it necessary to remove the board if I just wanna swap out the joystick?

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад +1

      I think you could probably do it without removing the board, just be sure to unhook the battery cable.

  • @gne08
    @gne08 3 года назад

    Do you know where to buy a replacement screen?

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад +1

      Hi, you'll probably have to message PowKiddy directly via AliExpress so they can request one from the factory.

  • @wishuwerehere
    @wishuwerehere 2 года назад

    Hey Russ! Would you still consider this the best bartop in its price range with the mods?

  • @racheysdad
    @racheysdad 3 года назад

    Can you plug in game controller into the USB ports for so you can do 2 or more players?

  • @evanpatterson8487
    @evanpatterson8487 2 года назад

    Are the buttons 24mm. Or 30mmm???

  • @foodoon
    @foodoon 3 года назад +1

    WARNING: DO NOT attempt to mod your Pow Kiddy A-13. It is trivial to break many things (such as the power button). I followed this video very carefully and ended up with a broken power button. It's just not worth it. I will have to buy another now and throw this in the trash. The thing basically self-destructs if you open it. I think the guy who did this video was just very lucky with his power button.
    DO NOT ATTEMPT UNLESS YOU ARE HAPPY WITH HIGH CHANCE OF DESTROYING YOUR DEVICE.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад

      Sorry to hear this happened to you. I've opened up two of these devices at least a dozen times each without issue, but yes I've heard of a lot of people breaking the power button -- that's why I make note of it in the video. I would recommend asking in the Team Ruka channel on Telegram, several people have figured out how to fix a broken button, or how to order that specific part. The only rub is the channel is in Spanish, but if you ask in there someone will help you out. t.me/joinchat/B5SjM1OVlW0eD-0Tv5GrmA

  • @Guitario666
    @Guitario666 3 года назад

    That's awesome! Could you put a raspberry pie in it?

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад

      Yes! Someone already did it on RUclips (the video is in Korean but with English subtitles). It's well beyond my skill level at this point, but definitely something I want to tackle someday!

  • @robumphrey1344
    @robumphrey1344 3 года назад

    As i was following your video the sd card came out on mine. I put it back in but now all the files and emulators are not listed. I click on games and it doesn't show any emulators, it just starts up the same 1 game every time. Any ideas?

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад

      Hi Rob, it sounds like your SD card was damaged or just plain failed. Send me an email at retrogamecorps (at) gmail, I can help.

  • @Curryking32000
    @Curryking32000 3 года назад

    received my yesterday and it only took 7 days to arrive in the UK. I love it but yes, the games list if very messy and shame there's no favourites list. Was wondering about the posiblity of spray painting it black

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад +1

      I'm thinking about doing the same thing.

  • @SmallJack81
    @SmallJack81 3 года назад

    And is it possible to change the software ? Can we install Batocera for example ?

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад

      There is a custom firmware for the device, I'll do a video on it soon!

  • @DJ_Aviles
    @DJ_Aviles 2 года назад

    Pésimo como poner la tapa de nuevo… el botón rojo del on off se puede poner por fuera… por insertarlo por cómo sale en el video ahora se me desarmó y no se como volver a instalar el mecanismo…. Ayuda si alguien sabe gracias

  • @endoflevelboss
    @endoflevelboss 3 года назад

    What kind of heatsink should I fit? Having bought one I found out it overheats a lot and dies during any emulator that stresses it out e.g. Amiga P-UAE.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад

      I'd have to look inside and see how much room we have to work with. It has definitely gotten hot when I play it, but to me it feels like the battery.

    • @endoflevelboss
      @endoflevelboss 3 года назад

      @@RetroGameCorps On mine the heat is very much below the joystick compartment. Judging by your disassembly there, it seems to be from the main board. Are you able to play the more taxing emulators for >1hr? I find stuff like Amiga and certain arcades (e.g. ddragon one on MAME not Neo Geo) for, say 30 mins+ will push it over the edge and make it freeze up or sit on a black screen. I'm getting a raspberry PI copper heatsink tomorrow although I think it might need a fan. Cool machine though, just needs some love :D

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад

      @@endoflevelboss Honestly, I’ve never played it for more than 20 minutes at a stretch. I hope a heatsink helps, let me know how it goes!

    • @endoflevelboss
      @endoflevelboss 3 года назад

      @@RetroGameCorps Fixed the issue, with perfectly fitting copper heatsink from PiHut (with adhesive tape already applied). Tested and it's no longer bailing under heavy load. PiHut part = 103181 👍👍👍🥳

  • @endoflevelboss
    @endoflevelboss 3 года назад

    Careful not to snap your SD card opening the case. I was taking care with the power button and my 256GB EVO got snapped in half. Should have took it out before really.

  • @Vitorlean
    @Vitorlean 3 года назад

    retro I still see a lot of people in doubt about which firmware to install for rg351p. Can you compare performance on arkos and 351elec games? Currently 351elec has more updates and is in version 1.0.8. Another question, do you know why 351elec no longer support halflife?

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад +1

      Hi, they weren't able to port over HL in the new exFAT partition of 351ELEC. Hopefully they can bring it back. Performance across the board is the same for ArkOS and 351ELEC, maybe a bit better N64 on ArkOS but everything else is virtually equal. I'll try my best to put something together that showcases something.

  • @Adalwolf17
    @Adalwolf17 3 года назад

    Awesome! Can you use jlf parts on the stock stick? I think its a jlf clone

  • @chriswarrington9353
    @chriswarrington9353 2 года назад

    Yeahhhh busted my power button putting this back together :/

  • @ultramaster.
    @ultramaster. Год назад

    I broke the power button today 😢
    I forgot to take off the cover with the button on..
    I spent 40 us plus 40 us shipping for my sanwa jlfd then this ... Facepalm

  • @shagstars
    @shagstars 2 года назад

    seeing that this is not cooled at all explains why it shutsdown with batocera 34 and ppsspp on.

  • @bluepaintsmells
    @bluepaintsmells 2 года назад

    This a13 got *DRIP*

  • @DJDanceClassic
    @DJDanceClassic 3 года назад +1

    paint it black

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад +1

      I’ve been thinking about it.

    • @kimble02
      @kimble02 3 года назад

      What sort of paint would be best to use? Seems like an excellent idea!

    • @DJDanceClassic
      @DJDanceClassic 3 года назад +1

      Just regular spray in a can

  • @JasonFTFW
    @JasonFTFW 3 года назад

    The way you went at the wires for the buttons... Cringe 😖
    Never pull a crimped connector at the crimp point. You want to grab by the portion that is metal on metal.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 года назад

      Haha, sorry for the cringe. That makes sense, thanks for the tip.

  • @ainamaree
    @ainamaree 3 года назад

    First 😁

  • @JerryZhani
    @JerryZhani 3 года назад

    Great! Please show some PS1 gaming and how it works with the arcade stick/ button controls.