I have invasive breast cancer. During 6 months on chemo and targeted therapy my two cancer markers doubled. Had a lumpectomy and level 1 node dissection. Surgical pathology showed no clear margins. I’ll have a bilateral mastectomy in 3 days. I began taking fenbendazole after the lumpectomy and the doubled cancer markers. Within 6 weeks they went down 18% and 16%. I’m also eating a strict keto diet and taking hormone blockers. I don’t know for sure if the fenbendazole is the reason for the decrease in the markers but I’m not stopping it.
Thank you for your feedback 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 I've tried to reply on another comment, but within one minute, they've all been.... well, you know. I'm so glad you've had a positive outcome thus far! I've read that this has been fairly effective for numerous people as well.
@@welanduzfullo8496 Well you're a bundle of joy. I was stage 3 breast cancer and cured it without chemo or hormone therapy. Fenben, fasting, therapeutic keto, sunlight, grounding, a rife machine and emotional release cured me. Yup, my choice!
Remember when the fringe doctors warned us and they were right? I'm not sure we should take advice from people who were wrong and are still labeling other doctors as fringe. Credibility can take so long to achieve and can be lost forever so quickly. People should learn from the past and remember that.
Yes, and observe how Vinay cheats his listeners in this video by complicating the question of effectiveness of the 2 drugs with stuff like "doctors don't want you to know about". That is real scumbag action on his part. HE KNOWS BETTER than to pull that kind of argumentation trick if he's being honest, which he is NOT, in this video. NOT honest. Deceptive.
Fighting cancer, reducing cancers, or reducing number of cancers, is not the same as eliminating cancer. Why did Vinay employ this type of logical trickery today?
I thought the new medical standard for approval of a drug was to just proclaim it’s “safe and effective!” and force people to take it or lose their job. I am looking forward to the accountability about to be handed out.
@@welanduzfullo8496 but when it does, then we see how great your remark is. Of course there are many times more fringe ideas than establishment ideas, therefore one should expect many more to go wrong. When it does go wrong, we have as example, introduction of the idea that we should put dogs to a line up of schoolkids against the wall to sniff. They lied and said it was to sniff shoes. However, if you look at the dog training videos, the scent is put at butt height, not floor...and if it were truly about shoes, which is ridiculous, the kids could take off their shoes for the dog to inspect. And ridiculous because we saw what they were doing in China with the super long swabs and the bent over subjects. That is where they checked for covid. That is where the dogs would have been targeting, naturally. OF COURSE. That is one example of your trouble with logic and honesty.
Paradigmatic question - if the placebo effect actually works sometimes, and the risk profile of an anti-parasitic drug is super low (like an aspirin), and the doctor doesn’t make empty promises to their patient…. Why not try it?
The placebo effect is real and might be helpful on softer endpoints like depression or pain - patient assessed outcomes….so wouldn’t be crazy in the absence of effective therapy. No way an aspirin causes your acute leukemia to go into remission.
Part of the issue could be that “sometimes” piece. Most people (especially practitioners) would probably not be comfortable deliberately hoping the placebo effect works because time can be a very important factor and you don’t want to have to deal with cancer that’s harder to treat or untreatable because the placebo effect didn’t work this time. Sure, non-placebo treatments also have a risk of not working. But the difference is that you expect your actions to do something inside the patient’s body to hopefully beat back the cancer and / or save their life. With the placebo route, you’re knowingly doing things you don’t expect to do anything in the patient except hopefully maybe inspire some good vibes.
My good friend had gotten skin cancer. She had so many horrible things happen by doctors when she got sick years ago, that she refused to have treatment by oncologistx. She put ivermectin paste on the cancer site and the cancer was cured. Her doctor was shocked and asked what she did. She did not have any other meds except IVM and tylenol years before.
Prof Prasad, as an authority on Cancer, we eagerly await your assessment of the recent paper by Prof Thomas Seyfried et al on treating cancer by starving it of Glucose and suppressing Glutamine, the only two fuels it can use. This could be a Semmelweis Moment and your contribution could be life changing (and life saving).
People have used “fringe” products and have had desirable outcomes. On the other hand there have been people who have done all the standard treatments and had terrible outcomes. Although considered “just anecdotal,” it’s not nothing. Outcomes are outcomes.
The only way to know if Ivermectin and Fenbendazole can be repurposed for cancer treatment, either by themselves or in combination with other drugs, is to study them. _No arguments other than evidence matters._ Skepticism is good, but making a conclusion based strictly on skepticism without adequate evidence is premature. People tend to think in binary patterns, true or false, but this ignores our ignorance. *_UNKNOWN IS NOT EQUAL TO FALSE._*
The Tippens Protocol, using Fenbendazole AND specific supplements at the same time, deserves a double-blind research study. It is supposed to be enhanced by using ivermectin with it. The mechanism of action of the Fenbendazole is suppose to be depriving the cancer of sugar.
I'm definitely going to have to challenge your dismissal of ivermectin. On a Dr. John Campbell video from a few months back, he reviewed the findings of a large Chinese medical/scientific study demonstrating the efficacy of ivermectin. Perhaps you need to look into this before dismissing ivermection. If you want the link, I'll send it.
@@karenkaren3189 For now I would go with Prasad as well, but it's disturbing the automatic dismissal of new information based on old information. That's not very scientific to me. And I understand we can't just throw limited resources on any wild claims out there. But yeah, I am guilty of being in one of the side that is broken in this whole broken system.
@@karenkaren3189 yup. We live in a word where someone like Dr Prasad could say this on twitter and a bunch of idiots with blue checkmarks with no real background in research can respond and try and convince the general public they're wrong. It's wild.
@@karenkaren3189 I agree that Prasad should know more, but while Cambell is a nurse he also has a PHd and has written more than one text on physiology so he isn't a typical nurse. He has also interviewed some notable doctors so shouldn't be completely dismissed out of hand just because he is a nurse. (BTW, I've seen many nurses I would trust more to treat illnesses than many doctors so I am in no way putting nurses down. Unfortunately I have also seen a few that I wouldn't trust to take my temperature.)
Syatistics never count those who gave up with medical treatment and turned to alternative medicine and get well. Like my sister with MS 20 years ago, doing fine today
You’re saying that the other cancer drugs they’re taking are likely what’s responsible for the reduction in cancer instead of the IVM/FenBen, but what if IVM/FenBen are synergistic and are actually improving the efficacy of the other (standard) treatments? Could that be in the realm of possibility?
@@welanduzfullo8496 lack of evidence doesn’t mean no evidence. Its not in pharma industry’s best interest to have a cheap med replacement for expensive cancer treatments.
There are a lot of people that do. They shill colloidal silver and other sham treatments. Vinay is right on do a small randomized trial, his point of 18 patients. Almost all drugs have no chance of working not just ivm; which is why he slams selinexor and boston trial every time he can. Now the fact that selinexor is still on the market while ivm can’t get a trial highlights the capture of the FDA
I have so many anecdotal stories such as my cousin who had a large portion of her bowel removed for colon cancer, refused chemotherapy and Radiation 25 years ago and is still healthy today.
You don't always need double blind studies for everything. If 10 people eat deadly mushrooms and die, you won't ask for a double blind study. Vinay, your're great but you have changed your mind on many things.
Parasitic infections are a lot more common than people think and can cause cancer themselves, as well as cancer making one more susceptible to new infestations. So why not give a safe anthelminthic as a precautionary treatment in the way that antibiotic are often prescribed for people with viral infection who are at greater risk for bacterial pneumonia? That's ignoring the flimsy basis for direct effect you are using to dismiss these treatments.
Well I know a grand ma with lungcancer that took Vitamin D3 and Magnesium....the doctors did not recommend it of course ...she are now having a great life and doctors are of course confused since they said " You have not long time left ". This story does "of course" not help 100% of cancer cases but maybe gives some of them some hope and hopefully also less side effects from chemotherapie....
I hope your going to follow up with a long video that says what drugs and treatment actually work on which cancers. We already know we can't trust barely anyone these days! I get your frustration, but i also get you will try anything once you get a cancer diagnosis!!!
Maybe if we actually really properly test these things we might know but the docs who have real patients they say some of these work. See of their patients say didn't die of covid and everyone elses did maybe we should properly test what they say not a bunch of hit job pieces to make sure something else gets emergency approval and is much more profitable
Vinay needs a bigger audience. You can tell his depth of knowledge by him detailing the intricate workings of certain drugs and also how to holistically (not in the bad way to use the word) tie it together with reality in real medicine. I would love to see him debate more fringe people.
I’d love to see a video where you talk about which cancer drugs are the BEST and most effective for each cancer. I’d love to have more information about which ones have the best OS and with the best endpoints.
I really like Dr Prasad's content, very informative, plus he reminds me a bit of Quintin Tarantino in the way he talks, his voice, even the swearing is very Tarantino-esque.
I've always told Dr.Vinay how much I enjoy his opinions and his work. I'm happy to hear of an effort to reduce the cussing. It is more impressive to sound more professional. For some reason I suspect he will have a major change of opinion soon/paradigm change of some sort.
I don't think they are saying Ivm us a real cancer treatment. I think they were saying that there actually maybe parasites in the body that they are finding more iften and by giving ivm, it gets rid the parasites that they didn't know they had. Which then helps them fight the cancer. Also that the ivm may have anti-inflammatory properties. Also helping.
It has nothing to do with parasites, it has to do with blocking the fuel that cancer uses to grow. What Vinay is missing is the whole story, you need to do a strict metabolic diet in ADDITION to IVM and Fenbendazole, which interrupts cancers secondary source of fuel -fuel from fermentation. ruclips.net/video/a6bqSMOMQN0/видео.htmlsi=1MwDWkT6YvHCnttd
The only study I've seen indicated that ivermectin taken in conjunction with other cancer therapies (specifically chemo, if I remember right) enhanced the anti-cancer affects of those other drugs.
I remember the story of Joe Tippins using Fenbendazol for his cancer because his buddy was a researcher at a dog medication company. The researcher said it was eliminating tumors in mice. So he was like "heck, I have nothing to lose". Whether it was the medication, or a miracle, his terminal cancer disappeared very quickly.
Monoclonal antibodies are the rage. I’ve been prescribed a several different proteins of this ilk. Given the often disappointing results, I’m starting to suspect that this class of drugs isn’t well understood and/or the model practitioners follow to prescribe these meds is, if not flawed, far from ideal. What is the state of monoclonal antibody science in terms of mechanism of action and efficacy?
One of my late sisters cancer drugs was a thousand a month. It was paid for by Medicare so she only paid $20 a month. All it did was make her so sick she gave up on treatment.
Does Folfirinox work? Based on "great success" with pancreatic cancer treatments it doesn't. But let's focus on ivermectin so people doesn't question expensive drugs.
I could definitely design a study that, by the standard that modern FDA, is suitable for approval that shows that ivermectin shrinks cancer. That's not an endorsement of ivermectin as cancer treatment but rather a condemnation of FDA's standards.
Vinay, I urge you not to listen to the push back in the comments. Just like you say in the video, there are lunatics on both sides here. I think this perspective is spot on - there are a lot of crazies pushing weird treatments that make no sense, both inside and outside the establishment. Frankly, both deserve equal amounts of ridicule. Who does not deserve ridicule are the patients who fall for either type of pseudoscience.
Disease X in the DRC turned out to be malaria in malnourished victims ( who coincidentally test covid positive). Since hydroxycloroquin (sp?) and nutrition are the solution, this panic drama has disappeared from headlines.
I'd like to see you have a discussion (not debate) with John Campbell. I think he's a good guy who's trying to do what he thinks is right. I think he'd really like you. I'm curious as to how many things you would ultimately agree or disagree on.
The fact that he admits you could only study these drugs i certain states is pretty telling. These studies are almost impossible to do because the people who would participate are already on other drugs, and there are ethical concerns that would prevent any agency from funding thr study.
Please do a video on the drugs that improve OS and all-cause mortality in the most common cancers, breast, colon, prostate, and thyroid. People deserve to know. They deserve proper informed consent and autonomy. Cancer is the #2 cause of death in the US. We need to do better for our loved ones. And if we can't acknowledge our failures, and it seems we're failing, we'll never make our way to success. (My definition of success is a cure and a good quality of life.)
I would appreciate your views on Dr. Thomas Seyfried’s dietary approach to depriving cancer cells of glucose and glutamine. This seems intuitive and dates back to Otto Warburg’s work from the early 20th century.
That's because there really aren't any that work. Today it's all about selling medicine that might slow growth ,but not for a cure. If a cure were found the economic impact would be catastrophic. It's all about the money now. Purely evil to put people through these horrors. 😢😡
@5:15 You know why these meds are not being tested in large medical trials right? They're cheap. So there's no money in teasing out when they work and when they don't. Also, for most people, iver and fenben would be best along with the other treatments. They're not as effective in a really fast growing cancer, imho. But in the US doctors have such a bad attitude towards patients and patient needs. It's all my way or the highway 🙄. Anyway, love your community of viewers. The comments are everything!❤
Appreciate your opinions. Balanced assessment. Can feel your frustration! Don’t know how anyone in US can afford any medical treatment. How did things become so extreme?
Can you cover Jane McLelland cancer treatment and the large amount of doctors that are using it. as well as Dr. Thomas Seyfried there are a large amount of people that have used these medical treatments.
As a doctor you should know that our bodies are made to remove cancer cells with our immunity system. When our immunity system is overtaxed with clearing out parasites and other issues, the immune system is too week to do its job.
Regarding IVM, the words you used are "believe", "think", and "probably", which means...you don't know. Yes, a randomized trial, we understand it's your fundamental element for a useful drug. BUT, it needs money, it needs support, sometimes it needs authorization, and I believe you know there was an active agency rejection of IVM. Don't you think that's suspicious? Could that be happening yet? Maybe you can talk about it during the debate.
I enjoy your videos. One of my questions is that often these conversations come out sounding like the US is the only place in the world. What's happening differently better or worse in other developed countries that point to us doing it wrong or doing it right?
Would people please stop thinking of cancer as a single disease entity. Even within a classification like plasma cell cancers some treatments will work brilliantly for a certain type of myeloma and it will be poor in others. Different cancer clones have very different mutational profiles and that helps determine the sensitivity to different therapeutics. Even going into ketosis can help against some malignancies and do nothing for others. If you have acute leukemia and think a dietary switch alone will help you won’t be around long. If you have a gioblastoma maybe give it a go along with the chemo (which is pretty poor anyway). I’ve seen loads of people try unproven stuff out of desperation and can’t think of one where it turned the ship around but I’d probably do the same….
What's your opinion on the mitochondria-stem cell hypothesis of cancer? It states that mitochondrial dysfunction is the proximate cause to cancers and leads to somatic cell mutations through the production of oxide radicals. It Is marked by fermentation of glutamate and sugar. It would be great if you assess this hypothesis.
I have a friend who has prostate cancer. He refused prostatectomy and is doing hormone tx but is also taking ivermectin. PSA significantly came down so he assumed it was all d/t ivermectin and now is touting the miracles. Not sure if there is any benefit related or maybe just the hormone TX is effective but I guess if you are desperate you will take anything. I can empathize and if it’s not harming someone what do you have to lose except false hope.
Advertising pharmaceuticals products should be illegal. That would take away the motivation for promoting the expensive solutions and the fear of losing advertising revenues.
If taken together as you suspect, Could the 'fringe' options be supporting the body in other ways ... I recall my mother was so fragile with chemo, she struggled to eat and was vulnerable to every cold and flu (she was otherwise healthy 33 years old, the first time, dying at 47) - could ivermectin or similar be helping support the bodies immune response, keeping resilience higher, in turn giving the body more resources to fight the cancer? ... it would be great if these stories could be documented and work out if there is a mechanism of action.
why do they have to be single agents to be considered good? also, even if we were "allowed" to study them, we may find that there is a host dependent response, which is difficult to measure randomly
Gellman amnesia, The boy that cried wolf Once bitten twice shy. Pick your one liner. You appear to have a tack record of being behind the curve. Ahead of the curve when it comes to MSM, but not when it comes to those fringe doctors that ended up being correct. And add the past collaboration with Zdog during covid, You don't have a very good track record. Not bad, but not great.
Vinay begins with a type of deception that is below him. The question posed includes topics not related to the question of effectiveness of the 2 drugs wrt fighting cancer. Example of extraneous topic: "doctors don't want you to know about it".
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I have invasive breast cancer. During 6 months on chemo and targeted therapy my two cancer markers doubled. Had a lumpectomy and level 1 node dissection. Surgical pathology showed no clear margins. I’ll have a bilateral mastectomy in 3 days.
I began taking fenbendazole after the lumpectomy and the doubled cancer markers. Within 6 weeks they went down 18% and 16%. I’m also eating a strict keto diet and taking hormone blockers. I don’t know for sure if the fenbendazole is the reason for the decrease in the markers but I’m not stopping it.
Thank you for your feedback 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I've tried to reply on another comment, but within one minute, they've all been.... well, you know.
I'm so glad you've had a positive outcome thus far! I've read that this has been fairly effective for numerous people as well.
Best Wishes💐
wish you the best, but keto and the fen probably did zero of that. Still your choice at the end of the day 🫠
@@welanduzfullo8496 Well you're a bundle of joy. I was stage 3 breast cancer and cured it without chemo or hormone therapy. Fenben, fasting, therapeutic keto, sunlight, grounding, a rife machine and emotional release cured me. Yup, my choice!
Take IVM as well. Very promising for breast cancer
Remember when the fringe doctors warned us and they were right? I'm not sure we should take advice from people who were wrong and are still labeling other doctors as fringe. Credibility can take so long to achieve and can be lost forever so quickly. People should learn from the past and remember that.
Spot on 🤗💪
Agreed!
Yes, and observe how Vinay cheats his listeners in this video by complicating the question of effectiveness of the 2 drugs with stuff like "doctors don't want you to know about".
That is real scumbag action on his part. HE KNOWS BETTER than to pull that kind of argumentation trick if he's being honest, which he is NOT, in this video. NOT honest. Deceptive.
ZDogg values scumbaggery by Vinay. Very disappointing.
Fighting cancer, reducing cancers, or reducing number of cancers, is not the same as eliminating cancer. Why did Vinay employ this type of logical trickery today?
I thought the new medical standard for approval of a drug was to just proclaim it’s “safe and effective!” and force people to take it or lose their job. I am looking forward to the accountability about to be handed out.
... And, what kind of studies did those have to go through to prove their merit?
@@flavellinator Rigged studies partially reported to conceal damage?
Trust the establishment, not the "fringe." What could go wrong?
very little goes wrong compared to the fringe lol
@welanduzfullo8496 says the guy who still believes the wet market nonsense...lol
@@welanduzfullo8496 but when it does, then we see how great your remark is. Of course there are many times more fringe ideas than establishment ideas, therefore one should expect many more to go wrong.
When it does go wrong, we have as example, introduction of the idea that we should put dogs to a line up of schoolkids against the wall to sniff. They lied and said it was to sniff shoes. However, if you look at the dog training videos, the scent is put at butt height, not floor...and if it were truly about shoes, which is ridiculous, the kids could take off their shoes for the dog to inspect. And ridiculous because we saw what they were doing in China with the super long swabs and the bent over subjects. That is where they checked for covid. That is where the dogs would have been targeting, naturally.
OF COURSE.
That is one example of your trouble with logic and honesty.
@@welanduzfullo8496yeah the way handled was Covid was very little
@@welanduzfullo8496 400,000 people die from medical errors in the US every year
Paradigmatic question - if the placebo effect actually works sometimes, and the risk profile of an anti-parasitic drug is super low (like an aspirin), and the doctor doesn’t make empty promises to their patient…. Why not try it?
The placebo effect is real and might be helpful on softer endpoints like depression or pain - patient assessed outcomes….so wouldn’t be crazy in the absence of effective therapy. No way an aspirin causes your acute leukemia to go into remission.
Part of the issue could be that “sometimes” piece. Most people (especially practitioners) would probably not be comfortable deliberately hoping the placebo effect works because time can be a very important factor and you don’t want to have to deal with cancer that’s harder to treat or untreatable because the placebo effect didn’t work this time.
Sure, non-placebo treatments also have a risk of not working. But the difference is that you expect your actions to do something inside the patient’s body to hopefully beat back the cancer and / or save their life. With the placebo route, you’re knowingly doing things you don’t expect to do anything in the patient except hopefully maybe inspire some good vibes.
It's delaying treatment that's the problem
@@luvmechanix Not necessarily, I am on both iver and fenben, they are in addition to the immunotherapy, they are parallel not exclusive
@@luvmechanixexcept those “treatments” often don’t cure, they extend life 3-20 months with a nasty amount t of side effects.
My good friend had gotten skin cancer. She had so many horrible things happen by doctors when she got sick years ago, that she refused to have treatment by oncologistx. She put ivermectin paste on the cancer site and the cancer was cured. Her doctor was shocked and asked what she did. She did not have any other meds except IVM and tylenol years before.
regression fallacy 😂
My friend same. Used tin for a skin thing
Well that solves it then! Guess it's effective! Case closed
Prof Prasad, as an authority on Cancer, we eagerly await your assessment of the recent paper by Prof Thomas Seyfried et al on treating cancer by starving it of Glucose and suppressing Glutamine, the only two fuels it can use. This could be a Semmelweis Moment and your contribution could be life changing (and life saving).
no
Prasad is one authority. There are many other authorities who have different opinions.
@@janinepera8338 it all depends which are trustworthy and not payed off by Big Pharma
@@welanduzfullo8496 Meaning?
@janinepera8338 only if the other “authorities” are trustworthy and not payed off by vested interests.
Back in the day I was the Oncology Nurse Educator for the manufacturer of Regorafenib - that experience made me lose the will to live.
People have used “fringe” products and have had desirable outcomes. On the other hand there have been people who have done all the standard treatments and had terrible outcomes. Although considered “just anecdotal,” it’s not nothing. Outcomes are outcomes.
no
I agree.
Agree
@@welanduzfullo8496 "no". Wrong. Fringe ideas that are successful can become mainstream, so we can discount your sellout foolishness JUST that easily.
I respect Vinny but he needs to stop with the "fringe" perjorative.
Remember to trust the experts when they tell you IVM doesn't work.
What if the experts lie to me because they received a paycheck into their back pocket to push a lie?
@RNG-999 That's what the fringe doctors (who were correct and paid the price), want you to think.
Yeah, the FDA called it horse paste so it must be bad
What are you some sorta shill for Merk? They make ivermectin.
@@skinnybricks And their patent expired in the 90's. Nobody's shilling for the maker of IVM.
The only way to know if Ivermectin and Fenbendazole can be repurposed for cancer treatment, either by themselves or in combination with other drugs, is to study them. _No arguments other than evidence matters._ Skepticism is good, but making a conclusion based strictly on skepticism without adequate evidence is premature. People tend to think in binary patterns, true or false, but this ignores our ignorance. *_UNKNOWN IS NOT EQUAL TO FALSE._*
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The Tippens Protocol, using Fenbendazole AND specific supplements at the same time, deserves a double-blind research study. It is supposed to be enhanced by using ivermectin with it. The mechanism of action of the Fenbendazole is suppose to be depriving the cancer of sugar.
I'm definitely going to have to challenge your dismissal of ivermectin. On a Dr. John Campbell video from a few months back, he reviewed the findings of a large Chinese medical/scientific study demonstrating the efficacy of ivermectin. Perhaps you need to look into this before dismissing ivermection.
If you want the link, I'll send it.
Exactly 👍
Campbell is a nurse, Prasad is an oncologist so I will go with his judgment
Retired Nurse
@@karenkaren3189 For now I would go with Prasad as well, but it's disturbing the automatic dismissal of new information based on old information. That's not very scientific to me. And I understand we can't just throw limited resources on any wild claims out there. But yeah, I am guilty of being in one of the side that is broken in this whole broken system.
@@karenkaren3189 yup. We live in a word where someone like Dr Prasad could say this on twitter and a bunch of idiots with blue checkmarks with no real background in research can respond and try and convince the general public they're wrong. It's wild.
@@karenkaren3189 I agree that Prasad should know more, but while Cambell is a nurse he also has a PHd and has written more than one text on physiology so he isn't a typical nurse. He has also interviewed some notable doctors so shouldn't be completely dismissed out of hand just because he is a nurse. (BTW, I've seen many nurses I would trust more to treat illnesses than many doctors so I am in no way putting nurses down. Unfortunately I have also seen a few that I wouldn't trust to take my temperature.)
Syatistics never count those who gave up with medical treatment and turned to alternative medicine and get well. Like my sister with MS 20 years ago, doing fine today
Was it with apple cider vinegar? Organic apple cider vinegar is the most potent.
QQQQ: Vinay? What about the now common theory that cancer is a metabolic disease and it’s once again the mitochondria?
its not, go study medicine and learn for yourself, and no its not "once again the mitochondria" 😶🌫️
Thomas Seyfried’s work that expands upon Otto Warburg’s work of 100 years earlier.
You’re saying that the other cancer drugs they’re taking are likely what’s responsible for the reduction in cancer instead of the IVM/FenBen, but what if IVM/FenBen are synergistic and are actually improving the efficacy of the other (standard) treatments? Could that be in the realm of possibility?
very likely
wheres the evidence bro?
@@harman6283no
@@welanduzfullo8496 lack of evidence doesn’t mean no evidence. Its not in pharma industry’s best interest to have a cheap med replacement for expensive cancer treatments.
@weland
FLCCC.
Urgh… Vijay is going back to “trust big pharma” mode
Apparently you didn't watch the video.
You're not gonna seek actual cancer drugs if you get cancer? Good luck, Steve Jobs.
You really believe most of these people talking about alternative treatments are “trying to take advantage” of cancer patients?
Exactly ! Some doctors even give fake positive cancer results to get the money out of the fake patients ! 😢
As soon as I write messages to patients that VITAMIN C IS THE BEST ANTI-CANCER , ANTI-ALERGIC, ANTI-VIRAL THING , my hackers cut my answers !😢
There are a lot of people that do. They shill colloidal silver and other sham treatments.
Vinay is right on do a small randomized trial, his point of 18 patients.
Almost all drugs have no chance of working not just ivm; which is why he slams selinexor and boston trial every time he can.
Now the fact that selinexor is still on the market while ivm can’t get a trial highlights the capture of the FDA
I believe that the people selling them are. The people naively sharing information they heard? I think they're just mislead.
yes
I have so many anecdotal stories such as my cousin who had a large portion of her bowel removed for colon cancer, refused chemotherapy and Radiation 25 years ago and is still healthy today.
Good job w/ the language. Respect to your Mom.
You don't always need double blind studies for everything. If 10 people eat deadly mushrooms and die, you won't ask for a double blind study. Vinay, your're great but you have changed your mind on many things.
He'll change his mind with evidence.
If you are skeptical of anthelmintics, then conduct a study share your results; that's how science is done, doctor.
Parasitic infections are a lot more common than people think and can cause cancer themselves, as well as cancer making one more susceptible to new infestations.
So why not give a safe anthelminthic as a precautionary treatment in the way that antibiotic are often prescribed for people with viral infection who are at greater risk for bacterial pneumonia?
That's ignoring the flimsy basis for direct effect you are using to dismiss these treatments.
Well I know a grand ma with lungcancer that took Vitamin D3 and Magnesium....the doctors did not recommend it of course ...she are now having a great life and doctors are of course confused since they said " You have not long time left ". This story does "of course" not help 100% of cancer cases but maybe gives some of them some hope and hopefully also less side effects from chemotherapie....
I am on your mom's side.
Thank you for not swearing.
I appreciate your passion and honesty. Thank you for taking the time to care and share 👍🏻.
I hope your going to follow up with a long video that says what drugs and treatment actually work on which cancers. We already know we can't trust barely anyone these days! I get your frustration, but i also get you will try anything once you get a cancer diagnosis!!!
Exactly
I am looking forward to this video, too. The only thng i want when I get cancer is to have a good quality of life as long as I can. Phooey on PFS
Maybe if we actually really properly test these things we might know but the docs who have real patients they say some of these work. See of their patients say didn't die of covid and everyone elses did maybe we should properly test what they say not a bunch of hit job pieces to make sure something else gets emergency approval and is much more profitable
Exactly!!!! They won't though because it's cheap!
UUUTUBE STOP DELETING MY COMMENTS!
Really!?
That may explain why I've been noticing some of my posts on dicy topics disappear.
You can't say too much against the narrative you know.
Vinay needs a bigger audience. You can tell his depth of knowledge by him detailing the intricate workings of certain drugs and also how to holistically (not in the bad way to use the word) tie it together with reality in real medicine. I would love to see him debate more fringe people.
I’d love to see a video where you talk about which cancer drugs are the BEST and most effective for each cancer. I’d love to have more information about which ones have the best OS and with the best endpoints.
Thank you V, we appreciate your approach!
I really like Dr Prasad's content, very informative, plus he reminds me a bit of Quintin Tarantino in the way he talks, his voice, even the swearing is very Tarantino-esque.
True. I have to slow the video down to 80% to take it all in real time
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us Dr Prasad!
There is A PROTOCOL already published. Peer reviewed.
Provide link please.
FLCCC links r deleted
Thats the site
I've always told Dr.Vinay how much I enjoy his opinions and his work. I'm happy to hear of an effort to reduce the cussing. It is more impressive to sound more professional. For some reason I suspect he will have a major change of opinion soon/paradigm change of some sort.
Turkey Tail. Already used in some modern countries
*a type of mushroom
Ok this guy is a knob. There are dozens if not hundreds of govt studies on ivm and cancer showing a positive response..
Ummm….no there aren’t
List 5
Allopathic medicine is NOT the most healing approach.
I don't think they are saying Ivm us a real cancer treatment. I think they were saying that there actually maybe parasites in the body that they are finding more iften and by giving ivm, it gets rid the parasites that they didn't know they had. Which then helps them fight the cancer.
Also that the ivm may have anti-inflammatory properties. Also helping.
It has nothing to do with parasites, it has to do with blocking the fuel that cancer uses to grow. What Vinay is missing is the whole story, you need to do a strict metabolic diet in ADDITION to IVM and Fenbendazole, which interrupts cancers secondary source of fuel -fuel from fermentation.
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The only study I've seen indicated that ivermectin taken in conjunction with other cancer therapies (specifically chemo, if I remember right) enhanced the anti-cancer affects of those other drugs.
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Also parasites excrete waste in you
Mel Gibson was on Joe Rogan. He stated that Ivermectin cured his friends of stage 3 cancer. If this is true, can someone talk to him?
Gibson said his friends took multiple things in addition to Ivermectin.
I thought he said HE had lung cancer and took Fenbendazole/Ivermectin and other nutrients.
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Vinay, can you do a randomized study with fenbenzinol and ivermectin?
What is your meaning of fringe doctors? I'm understanding it to be Peter McCullough.
yes, for that specific take hes fringe
Thomas seyfried etc
😂😂Exactly what a disgrace to use for another dr with a different opinion🙄
As a mom and grama, I always say, you can’t have too little swearing!😊
I remember the story of Joe Tippins using Fenbendazol for his cancer because his buddy was a researcher at a dog medication company. The researcher said it was eliminating tumors in mice. So he was like "heck, I have nothing to lose". Whether it was the medication, or a miracle, his terminal cancer disappeared very quickly.
Monoclonal antibodies are the rage. I’ve been prescribed a several different proteins of this ilk. Given the often disappointing results, I’m starting to suspect that this class of drugs isn’t well understood and/or the model practitioners follow to prescribe these meds is, if not flawed, far from ideal.
What is the state of monoclonal antibody science in terms of mechanism of action and efficacy?
Monoclonal antibodies contain bioengineered Chinese hamster ovary cells. What could go wrong?
Yes I would like to know this too, especially since infants are now being offered a monoclonal antibody injection for RSV.
MAB has been around for 20 years so they aren’t new nor are they all the rage.
One of my late sisters cancer drugs was a thousand a month. It was paid for by Medicare so she only paid $20 a month. All it did was make her so sick she gave up on treatment.
Does Folfirinox work? Based on "great success" with pancreatic cancer treatments it doesn't. But let's focus on ivermectin so people doesn't question expensive drugs.
Debate! Great!
The panel must include Pierre Kory and Tess Lawrie.
Why isn't ivermectin easier to purchase, When it seems more attainable in other countries? It makes me wonder...
Hey, can you go to joe rogan podcast. You are super awesome. Big fan.
Oh how I wish that you did more in the autoimmune world!
Question…. Thoughts on Medical MJ and Lupus/MS?
Love you and your amazing mind and truth! 🙏💜🙏
It boils down to the mainstream hustlers verses the so called fringe.
I could definitely design a study that, by the standard that modern FDA, is suitable for approval that shows that ivermectin shrinks cancer. That's not an endorsement of ivermectin as cancer treatment but rather a condemnation of FDA's standards.
Vinay, I urge you not to listen to the push back in the comments. Just like you say in the video, there are lunatics on both sides here. I think this perspective is spot on - there are a lot of crazies pushing weird treatments that make no sense, both inside and outside the establishment. Frankly, both deserve equal amounts of ridicule. Who does not deserve ridicule are the patients who fall for either type of pseudoscience.
Disease X in the DRC turned out to be malaria in malnourished victims ( who coincidentally test covid positive). Since hydroxycloroquin (sp?) and nutrition are the solution, this panic drama has disappeared from headlines.
Great video, Vinay. Who's your doctor by the way?
I'd like to see you have a discussion (not debate) with John Campbell. I think he's a good guy who's trying to do what he thinks is right. I think he'd really like you.
I'm curious as to how many things you would ultimately agree or disagree on.
Nurse John is a quack
The fact that he admits you could only study these drugs i certain states is pretty telling. These studies are almost impossible to do because the people who would participate are already on other drugs, and there are ethical concerns that would prevent any agency from funding thr study.
Please do a video on the drugs that improve OS and all-cause mortality in the most common cancers, breast, colon, prostate, and thyroid. People deserve to know. They deserve proper informed consent and autonomy. Cancer is the #2 cause of death in the US. We need to do better for our loved ones. And if we can't acknowledge our failures, and it seems we're failing, we'll never make our way to success. (My definition of success is a cure and a good quality of life.)
I would appreciate your views on Dr. Thomas Seyfried’s dietary approach to depriving cancer cells of glucose and glutamine. This seems intuitive and dates back to Otto Warburg’s work from the early 20th century.
So after 2o minutes what cancer drugs work. I still don't know.
That's because there really aren't any that work. Today it's all about selling medicine that might slow growth ,but not for a cure. If a cure were found the economic impact would be catastrophic. It's all about the money now. Purely evil to put people through these horrors. 😢😡
@@Lawrence-r7s I've read pretty positive feedback on fen ben (put the two together).
@@Lawrence-r7s There's a good video posted on John...
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It's about Fin (replaceI withE). Ben, combineTheTwoWordzzz
@5:15 You know why these meds are not being tested in large medical trials right? They're cheap. So there's no money in teasing out when they work and when they don't.
Also, for most people, iver and fenben would be best along with the other treatments. They're not as effective in a really fast growing cancer, imho. But in the US doctors have such a bad attitude towards patients and patient needs. It's all my way or the highway 🙄.
Anyway, love your community of viewers. The comments are everything!❤
Appreciate your opinions. Balanced assessment. Can feel your frustration! Don’t know how anyone in US can afford any medical treatment. How did things become so extreme?
How much money do you and your research organization get from big pharma again???????
Hey doc, you should do the study. You are in the academic center and you are practicing oncologist. There should be enough candidates for the study.
I think you are great!! Fri, we don't mind the bad words, make me feel normal!!! Honesty is rare, and we thank you for your Honesty.
Can you cover Jane McLelland cancer treatment and the large amount of doctors that are using it. as well as Dr. Thomas Seyfried there are a large amount of people that have used these medical treatments.
As a doctor you should know that our bodies are made to remove cancer cells with our immunity system. When our immunity system is overtaxed with clearing out parasites and other issues, the immune system is too week to do its job.
Good stuff Dr Prasad.
Regarding IVM, the words you used are "believe", "think", and "probably", which means...you don't know.
Yes, a randomized trial, we understand it's your fundamental element for a useful drug.
BUT, it needs money, it needs support, sometimes it needs authorization, and I believe you know there was an active agency rejection of IVM.
Don't you think that's suspicious?
Could that be happening yet?
Maybe you can talk about it during the debate.
I enjoy your videos. One of my questions is that often these conversations come out sounding like the US is the only place in the world. What's happening differently better or worse in other developed countries that point to us doing it wrong or doing it right?
I completely disagree with Prasad regarding most supplements. He thinks supplements aren’t useless.
They are….
Would people please stop thinking of cancer as a single disease entity. Even within a classification like plasma cell cancers some treatments will work brilliantly for a certain type of myeloma and it will be poor in others. Different cancer clones have very different mutational profiles and that helps determine the sensitivity to different therapeutics. Even going into ketosis can help against some malignancies and do nothing for others. If you have acute leukemia and think a dietary switch alone will help you won’t be around long. If you have a gioblastoma maybe give it a go along with the chemo (which is pretty poor anyway). I’ve seen loads of people try unproven stuff out of desperation and can’t think of one where it turned the ship around but I’d probably do the same….
dietary switches are not supported
Then identify fucking causes.
It's also possible that a combination of drugs involving albendazole or ivermectin combined with anticancer therapies has an adjuvant effect.
What's your opinion on the mitochondria-stem cell hypothesis of cancer? It states that mitochondrial dysfunction is the proximate cause to cancers and leads to somatic cell mutations through the production of oxide radicals. It Is marked by fermentation of glutamate and sugar.
It would be great if you assess this hypothesis.
Colchicine would be interesting to study in terms of prostate cancer.
That's why our insurance keeps going up, buying stuff that doesn't work
Thank you for this video doctor . Do you think these drugs could help for bladder cancer ?
Dude!
I can SEE you in this video! It's great!
yes, the picture was always a bit too dark. Looks like a very good/expensive camera tho
Thank you for making this video. i have been wondering about this!!!!
How do you feel about the Biden pardon of Anthony Fauci this morning?
That is utterly disgusting!
Fauci is a terrorist and war criminal. He and his backers will ultimately face judgement even if not during their evil lives.
You're wrong about the shots. Given the published reports so far, it looks like you're wrong about ivm and fen too.
Three years to remove red dye? Think about the timing. Lame duck president year.
Prevention is the key and a low carb diet and occasional fasting will do more for that than anything else.
how would you design a study to disprove ‘let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food’?
I have a friend who has prostate cancer. He refused prostatectomy and is doing hormone tx but is also taking ivermectin. PSA significantly came down so he assumed it was all d/t ivermectin and now is touting the miracles. Not sure if there is any benefit related or maybe just the hormone TX is effective but I guess if you are desperate you will take anything. I can empathize and if it’s not harming someone what do you have to lose except false hope.
I really want to hear what you would recommend in order to have a full effort towards finding cures and extending health span
What about the case study of Fenbenadolze done at Stanford on end stage bladder Cancer?
DR PRASAD WE NEED THE ""SWEARING"' MAYBE """""PEOPLE """ WILL WAKE UP AND SEE THE LIGHT !!!!!!! GOD BLESS !!!!!
Advertising pharmaceuticals products should be illegal. That would take away the motivation for promoting the expensive solutions and the fear of losing advertising revenues.
If taken together as you suspect, Could the 'fringe' options be supporting the body in other ways ... I recall my mother was so fragile with chemo, she struggled to eat and was vulnerable to every cold and flu (she was otherwise healthy 33 years old, the first time, dying at 47) - could ivermectin or similar be helping support the bodies immune response, keeping resilience higher, in turn giving the body more resources to fight the cancer? ... it would be great if these stories could be documented and work out if there is a mechanism of action.
why do they have to be single agents to be considered good? also, even if we were "allowed" to study them, we may find that there is a host dependent response, which is difficult to measure randomly
Gellman amnesia,
The boy that cried wolf
Once bitten twice shy.
Pick your one liner.
You appear to have a tack record of being behind the curve. Ahead of the curve when it comes to MSM, but not when it comes to those fringe doctors that ended up being correct.
And add the past collaboration with Zdog during covid, You don't have a very good track record.
Not bad, but not great.
Random doctors on youtube? What like yourself 😂
Arm wrestling is better than debate.
How about a RTC for swearing!
5:08 n why not?
I hope you are being heard! We need you! Thank you so much!
Vinay begins with a type of deception that is below him. The question posed includes topics not related to the question of effectiveness of the 2 drugs wrt fighting cancer. Example of extraneous topic: "doctors don't want you to know about it".
"Miracle cure". Another part of the not legitimate argument from Vinay. Why is he being dishonest this way?