West is now the wrong side. You drive to work with the sun in your face. You drive home with the sun in your face. I lived on the west side of town for 10 years before I figured that out.
well if you work on the Eastside certainly it's a reasonable idea to live on the east side just cuz you're closer to work. If yours is the opposite of most people's commute, it's really awesome. Sun in your eyes or not, a 10 minute commute is better than a 40 minute one. Where I've lived East is generally speaking where the blue collar jobs are, and West is where the white collar jobs are. So the rich people who live and work on the west side commute northward and southward.
I grew up in Tacoma, Washington. (It's in his first slide). The east side of the city sits across I-5 and the smell of sulphur (from a papermill that's always been there) and rotting shellfish blows eastward most days onto a native american reservation there and more of the cheaper housing. I lived with that for years, after a while it's hard to even notice. This is real.
In my country, the East sides of cities are definitely the more affluent, frequently significantly so. As a kid, I always thought this was about not having to face the sun on daily travel.... in my country the western suburbs are often the places where recent migrants are settled...
Similarly in the southern Hemisphere, East is best. The wind and pollution are so bad in Western Melbourne and Sydney, housing prices are lower in these Western sides of the cities.
They actually make significantly less than that...I live in east menlo park...across from EPA....Plus rents here are crazy...I own so dont get the idea that I am saying I cant afford it...There was a article out in Mercury news, and I believe it said" the lower class wage in the bay area is 113K per year...Nearly 80 percent of people in EPA dont make that much...and I know because I am grew up in that area...The other 20 percent have jobs right down the street at FBHQ...
Not in Tucson and Phoenix Arizona! The East Part of Town is where the money is. I live in Scottsdale and it is much nicer than West Phoenix! In Tucson it is the Foothills with all that Snow Bird Money!
in Auckland, New Zealand the South is the poorest, West also being rather low income, and the East and North are the most upmarket suburbs. But in Christchurch, there is a clear split between East and West, apart from hill suburbs in the south east
There are those who can, and those who can't, as long as this is so, you will have those who have, and those how have not. Some truths may be inconvenient, but that doesn't make them any less true.
What about the South side of Chicago? The cheap part of town is the oldest, generally. Also, I think most cities in the US generally grow west because travel and trade slightly favors westward movement.
We could do that horseshoe thing he talked about, and just put all the industry and railroad tracks in the East. Boom, problem solved. SimCity high score.
Forgetting that the idea that all pollution entirely moves east all the time, which is incorrect, many of the cities he mentioned don't have heavy pollution and aren't industrial.
People will want to move closer to work - and would probably not be able to afford the trips from other places. Tenements and housing would at some point develop around the trains and factories - I've seen this in fossilized form around various locals in NW Indiana.
Though I feel it's a noble message to design for everyone, not just a selected group -- when you cater to all, you end up with nobody getting what they need. Haves and have-nots are synonymous with status and social classes. History shows what happens when you attempt to abolish them.
He started with an interesting observation, which had an interesting and complex history. But I really wish he built something more concrete on that. Poverty is a really difficult, complicated problem to solve and I don't see how "We have to design for everyone" provides illumination on any of the questions we have to answer in order to address it.
It really isn't complex at all. It just requires taxing wealth and giving people money. It is politically difficult because people with money are powerful and don't want to give up their power but it isn't complicated.
@@oliverwilson11 You're building your worldview on the assumption that money is capable of solving poverty. The lottery has proven over and over that even if you give a poor person unfathomable amounts of money, they end up back in poverty very quickly.
The problem with bad design, is that people are very good at self-delusion, are really stubborn and campaign for/resist change, and the more that some stubborn people are about causing change, the more some stubborn people are about resisting change, and it once more becomes a zero sum of change. Like Racism. Legally, things changed, but socially, nothing did. Nick Fury may now be a black guy that owns the role so bad, the character was remodelled on him *years* before he was cast, but there'll always be the folks who'll think he's nothing but a trumped up punk... regardless of Sam Jackson's stance on Donald Trump. Don has nothing to do with the argument, except that he (a white guy) replaced a black guy when he was somehow voted into office, beating out a woman who's hubby had previously been president. ... what was my point? Oh, yeah. the Bad Design is so ingrained that I doubt it'll change much, unless we somehow eliminate wind. Wind is bad, I know this because all those wind turbines we made to create 'green' electricity spin too fast in wind, and disintegrate, with the motors burning up, and they take sooo much space, so wind is bad. Bring on Nuclear Power! we're my damn fusion reactors!? Also, humanity may be a little afraid of the dark, and where does it get dark first? The East. tiny reinforcing point.
I like how his graphic @5:11 puts *Income as most important and above Jobs.* That's the reality we are still stubbornly refusing to recognize, institutionally and socially.
Cheap housing and “poor neighborhoods” are probably always going to exist, and with poverty comes crime, which is it’s own vicious cycle. The speaker did touch on education inequality and that to me is major. Education as well as child mentoring should be mandatory, cause unfortunately a lot of “parents” don’t seem to want to actually raise their kids and people want to blame the educational system for not fixing bad parenting.
Nice thoughts, but I grew up on the wrong side of the tracks (well under the poverty line) in a single-parent household with two children, and had no impediments whatsoever in climbing quite far up the socioeconomic ladder, so I have a hard time relating to any of this. And my sister made it just fine, too, by the way. Sure, it took hard work, but it wasn't any harder than the work put in by those who started out on the right side of the tracks. And no, I'm not white, so there was no white privilege for me, and in my time (coming of age in the late 1980s) I never saw any evidence of its existence anyway. Putting aside luck, which always plays a role for everyone, it all comes down to what you do, not what others have done to you. If you let yourself feel disadvantaged somehow and then use that as an excuse for not trying to do better, then you won't do better. If you join a gang or start abusing drugs and committing crimes just because you live in the less desirable part of town, then you'll have to live with the consequences of making such bad choices. I realize that not everyone has the inner strength and will to resist the negative influences around them. I'm just saying that if you do, then there is nothing else holding you back from making a better life for yourself. The bad parenting and bad subcultures that are found in the bad neighborhoods are what help perpetuate this division between the haves and have-nots. Having bad infrastructure and dirty, ugly looking living spaces aren't great, either, but they aren't the real problem, which is social in nature. Those who are a part of or related to bad subcultures in some way (such as race) need to have honest, earnest conversations about what is really going on instead of always blaming whitey and trying to guilt-trip him and take from him. Whitey never held me back in any way, and we get along just fine. In fact, there were some white people I knew from the wrong side of the tracks who made the same journey I did from poverty to prosperity. So it's not about race, per se, but to the extent that certain races aren't doing nearly as well as others overall, what really needs to be addressed are the associated negative subcultures. But sadly it seems that people aren't willing to do that. Their public "leaders" would much rather just blame whites. More broadly there are groups like the Democrats who have a stake in keeping poor people of certain races and ethnicities poor so that they can buy votes with handouts of taxpayer money, and they blame whites for everything to make it look like they are on the side of the poor and downtrodden, when in fact they are just using them to gain power and want to keep them right where they are. That's a big reason why hardly anything has changed for the better, and maybe things are getting worse. Take it from someone who actually made it out of poverty (and without any undue difficulty)--you don't need anyone's handouts and there is no advantage to blaming others for your problems, especially when it's not even their fault. And don't be distracted by silly, irrelevant things like which side of the tracks you start out on and which way the wind blows--none of that is holding you back. There are, however, people who will try to hold you back because they're using you, namely the Democrats. Don't listen to what they say and don't let them use you to divide the country--just do what successful people do and you will be successful. I've seen this work over and over again, and I've done it myself.
How exactly do you solve the east sides of cities inequality and lack of wealth _without_ gentrification? I have a hard time seeing how there is any reliable method in any reasonable amount of time that wouldn’t simply gentrify.
I don't know that anyone wants to stop gentrification entirely. They just want cities to manage it better. Cities CAN plan for the needs of traditional residents, but they usually don't and that's the biggest problem, as I understand.
Then how does gentrification not just force the previous poor residents to go somewhere else, stay poor, and possibly become worse off due to having to find new employment? Even if they did 'plan for the needs of traditional residents' I do not see any situation where they aren't still worse off.
There’s a reason San Jose ca was nearly a total loss, like SF is, and they turned it around.... they bulldozed the shithole and gentrified it and now it’s one of the few places in the Bay Area I’d be willing to go
This is what I live for. This is why I work in South Dallas. The potential I see there... in the people, especially the kids it starts with the kids and setting them on the right path. I may not see a major change in my life time but I’m hoping to at least make a dent. I believe whole heartedly that South Dallas can be just as beautiful as north Dallas WITHOUT pushing everyone out by making it over priced. We have to work together.
Very interesting. I had long thought it was due to Westward Expansion in the USA, with older communities being left behind, while development continued its march in the direction of the country's growth. Maybe that is a factor, but if you're seeing this eastside phenomenon all over the world, then the eastward flow of air pollution could be even more important.
My home town and current town the rich are on east side of town and trailer park on west. But next town over the east is poor area....well first but pass that area and 2nd half of east side is newer and richest
💝 A young, optimistic, highly educated Black man attempting to appeal to the more Inclusive, higher nature of his fellow Americans. During his talk, my anger & cynicism remained silent. His words & attitude were: HUMBLING. 🗿 (S.F.)
There's something wrong with the campfire metaphore. He forgot to mention the people who do not even get a seat by the fire. If you sit in a horseshoe, someone else is going to come fill that gap
Whine, whine whine. So, instead of whining about your sorry lot in life, take a good look at the people who are successes in life. Most of them didn't have access to superlative schools, or live in affluent surroundings. They made up their minds early on that they were going to study hard, stay in school, and WORK their way out of bad situations. They put off self-gratification, early sexual congress, drug use, and eschewed out of wedlock pregnancies. YOU have that same opportunity, regardless of what side of the "tracks" you live on. Nor is your skin color impeding your success. So, pull up your boot straps and spread the word--as my teachers did sixty-plus years ago. Post a sign in your schools that says: "Education is the ONLY escape from poverty." Stop extolling the virtues of the minority who are sports stars and start honoring the astronauts, doctors, lawyers, college professors, senior military officers, PRESIDENTS, engineers, architects, etc., who are the REAL heroes of your community. Finally, stop listening to the sound-bite rabble rousers like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. They aren't in your corner. Their agenda is to KEEP you in those east-side-of-the-tracks locations so THEY get to keep their power base with politicians by using you all as a voting bloc.
In the UK (where I'm from), crisis level rioting used to something of a national hobby, yet there has been no crisis level rioting in the UK since the 2011 riots, so far making the 2010s the most 'peaceful' decade in UK history since the 1960s! Similarly though the UK still has the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Western Europe, since 2007 the teenage pregnancy rate has been plummeting down and is quickly reaching European levels! What has happened? Go back to the 2011 riots, and you realise most of the rioters came from very specific neighbourhoods, since then, nearly all of those neighbourhoods are in the process of being Gentrified....😏
Just dont look at globe weather map. It just may contradict Stephen DeBerry "wrong side of the tracks" theory. earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-140.21,62.83,474
Watching this from Australia where the majority of the population live on the East coast and being from the East is synonymous with privilege and wealth. I guess hard and fast rules have their problems
I can show you just as many examples in the US where this premise is wrong. If you cherry-pick the cities, then you can make your point. The West Side, in MY experience, is usually the poor or 'bad' side of town. So, I fundamentally disagree with this premise based solely on geo-location, because the 'sides' of towns are based on where the rails were laid down (based on industries). Where I come from (S. Ohio) the West Side is almost always the Black side. If there is anything at all that can be shown to be systemic by design is the co-location of railroads and industries. This is a TedTalk based on fabricated premises. Victim-hood exemplified.
He speaks from ignorance (willful?). His opening is that the dividing line between East Palo Alto and Palo Alto is a county line - San Mateo vs Santa Clara. Cities aren't allowed to spread across county lines. And that county line? It follows a large creek (San Francisquito) with a deep channel. It is not as he claims, a highway. And East Palo Alto is actually *north* of Palo Alto. Details, details. That should give you fair warning about his credibility.
The EPA while once the murder capitol of the US yes, has gone through a change recently. The average house price now? Drum roll please, over 1 mil. Yup. It’s been on the news the past few week. They showed this one older black lady, had a smallish old 3 bedroom house. She had an ear to ear smile like she won the lottery, sold her house, that she owned out right, for over 1 mil. Multiple offers. In the interview she’s said she was moving to the east bay, to be closer to her grand kids, and said w/ a smile, you should see the place I’m moving too. It’s a sad/happy story. Happy for this lady, however sad got the gentrification that is occurring. EPA is just too close to Silicon Valley mega giants.
This talk was bullshit. He basically just said a problem everyone is aware of (designed geographical segregation) and said we have to fix it. No insight on how, but just "that we should". Waste of 15 minutes.
at 50s in, did you just put a dot on Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming and say that its a site of disparity? What are the wolves on the east side not living as well as the moose on the left???? And the dot in colorado is about where Walden is... um... a town of less than 1,000 people with a median income of less than $30,000... everybody is living on the east side of the tracks. 0/10
Yeah, this is true even though my cities are the worst in the North/and South. But apply your theory and the north east and south east are in the heart of brew city factories and all its downtown smog and unseen garbage collectors and city workers. Btw, Im white,and from the heart of the SOUTH SIDE! or east ?? God Bless those in the ghetto's!!!
The east side of Pittsburgh is not what he described. When you get East of the city there are neighborhoods that are not great, Hazelwood and homewood. But the best Neighborhoods if the city are sandwiched north and south of the previous neighborhoods respectively, squirrel hill, Oakland, Shadyside. Its not a eastwest thing. Especially in rust belt cities like Pittsburgh with industrial collapse. The design he's talking about is created by natural barriers rivers vallies and mountains that which were natures doing and macro economical failures which wasn't the doing of western Pennsylvania society.
It's much easier to just assume that the people that live "on the east side" are essentially (genetically or culturally) inferior, prone to make bad choices, lazy, or just unlucky. No critical thought required. This fallacious common sense thinking is due to the fact that the poorly (mis)educated common citizenry has no clue what the structures of society are, how they affect people's lives in the micro and macro sense, and how and by who economic and political power is created and distributed. City planning begins with satisfying the needs of the powerful, first and last. Conflict theory 101. Whatever the social and cultural particulars are, they are unambiguously and intentionally designed that way by the powerful elite class. Red lining and gerrymandered voting, two types of social engineering being the classic examples of how economic and political power are maintained through planned inequality and disparity, exclusively in favor of American Europeans (aka white people). Why does EVERYTHING always come down to racism? Because racism is foundational to the U.S., the most powerful European settler colony in history. Racism is a major factor in how the post WW2 New World Order is delineated.
You started your campfire example by defining that it only fits 10 people. Then, when it was convenient for your narrative, it suddenly fits ten people PLUS two empty seats. So what you had was a campfire that fit 12 people. Sadly, in real life, you can't just change how many acres you have, or how many people a land will support. So you pointing out the obvious (some land is worth more than other land), and providing an example in which you simply changed the amount of people your campfire could support to fit your narrative makes this the DUMBEST TED talk I have ever wasted my time watching. If I had two extra thumbs down to conveniently add whenever I wanted, you would get three thumbs down, but sadly, I am limited to one.
Tue railroad runs east west in Pittsburgh....good research there bud. Also east Pittsburgh is a suburban neighbor hood in allrghney county. Its not even governed by the city of Pittsburgh. They have a different mayor. Different police force. Different school system. East Pittsburgh is as much Pittsburgh as new York city. Its only called east Pittsburgh because of the proximity to the city. However the railroad tracks in east Pittsburgh are following along the turtle creek basin. Which seperates it into another municipality called wilmerding. Who has the exact same median income as east Pittsburgh. (East Pittsburgh is west from wilmerding)
Decatur, Illinois: smelly food-processing on the east side. Sort of true. But the reservoir is to the southeast, so there’s some expensive lakefront property - but all on the far side. Sewage treatment is on the west side of town because it’s a low point and the sewage is not pumped but flows by gravity. West-enders get some sewage stench although that’s been mitigated a lot over the years. There’s a bit of a horseshoe anyway. But when the wind occasionally shifts, the smell envelops most of the city. Sort of like bad baked beans.
Socialism has created more disparity than any other system. How do you suppose "designing for everyone" will actually be done and how will it work? Take from the West side and rebuild on the east side? And he States that we have the capital to do it. Where is that capital? We are 20 trillion dollars in debt! Doesn't sound like capital to me.
The video started off great and I thought i was going to get an in depth look into a fundamental principle of our existence. instead, it quickly turned into a boring, leftist call for “us” to “design” our way to “equality”. when will people learn that inequality, poverty and segregation are built into the cake that is life? “instead of sitting in a circle why dont we sit in a horseshoe?”. he should have learned the answer when he spoke to the UK economist about smoke stacks.
No. The worst part of Jakarta is at the north part of the city. The worst part of Surabaya is also at the north part of the city. The worst part of Bandung is also at the north. Some said that Eastern of Indonesia is less developed than the Western of Indonesia. However if we locate the map, the wealthiest part of Indonesia is Java, and Java is at the south side of the country. You only see it from Europe and North American perspective.
He doesn't provide any solutions; but I think that he was possibly suggesting that people with money and power, the people who run cities and design infrastructure, need to change their attitudes to the East-Side / poorer neighbourhoods because most of the industry that was causing these areas to smell bad or have smokey air are gone. So they should invest accordingly.
I guess ocean front property on the east coast is really cheap? Cool. I know lakefront property in Chicago, which is in the east, is quite expensive. How does he explain this?
Permaculture should be the new design because the most radical thing you can do is grow your own food. Village Homes in Davis California is a 45 year old living model of how it can work.
So wait, his punch line is that there is no wrong side of the tracks? I'm confused as to what the purpose of this talk was. Is he saying that less desirable property should be worth just as much as desirable property? Or is he saying that desirable property should be sold to people who can't afford to buy it?
Hmmm that is an interesting thing to notice. So why not just put the big polluters on the east side and the people on the west side? Oh right because these things are already in place. As for camp fire smoke, we just say "white rabbit white rabbit go away" the smoke listens. Maybe if all the people on the east side say it then the earth will start spinning in the other direction! The problem with his campfire graphic is that generally the pollution comes from many sources, not just one camp fire
We didn't need you to research this, in the UK this has been widely known a long time. We used to have very smokey industrial areas, which were built to the east so that the smoke blew away from town. Working class housing was typically built close to those areas.
I live in St. Louis and North St. Louis is way worse than east St. Louis. Take a look at a map of where the murders occur. The map he showed wasn’t east St. Louis either, east St. Louis is on the Illinois side of the river.
it is no different with healthcare ..... the rich have better access to more progressive healthcare they revive treatments poor people can;t afford witch perpetuates their control.... control over government ... national healthcare system is much needed ... as a limit on money and property being left in a will or trust .... this is how the DuPont's the Walton's .. and others keep the empire going .... america needs a reset...
Still doesn't explain why people on the "wrong side" of the tracks don't take care of their properties nor self regulate to lower criminal elements. To invest in these areas is to be called a slum lord or a gentrifier, to throw money at the problem from the top-down is to be called a politician. Can't ask for market solutions if you damn the market the moment it gains steam.
There's been some reversal of this in some communities based on commuter experience. The east side of Jackson, Mississippi was, until the 1960s, lined with illegal nightclubs and casinos, and to the east of those lived both poor white and poor black Mississippians. But since the freeways were built there's been a steady improvement in the physical appeal and the amenities of those suburbs east of the city center such that today they include some of the most valuable property in the metro area of Jackson. I think a big reason for this might be the commuter experience. Jackson has only minimal public transit, so everybody drives. The diurnal cycle is such that if one lives east of the place one needs to be for work each day, then driving to and from work will mean always driving away from, not toward, the sun. I've always paid attention to this in choosing a place to live.
The East End of London is poorer because it is where immigrants traditionally landed after coming up the Thames in boats. Now there are large cheap areas in West London near the airport for the same reason ....and because of the goddam noise from the jets.
why is there always a random baby walking around by itself in those areas? i have to go to a lot of run down areas for jobs and i swear random babies walking around is a normal thing there, i called the police once to let them know and see if they could track down the parents and the officer on the phone just chuckled and asked "you dont come round here much do you?" what a strange place
I was triggered from the beginning. That is not how wind works. He isn't wrong that the general direction of wind in the US does head east, but just Google global wind patterns and notice that the winds are not all going east.
So his illustration with the campfire means he wants to prohibit development on the east side? In a free country, people would be willing to live in undesirable locations when the price drops to the point that makes it desirable.
The houses in the "east side" are priced for their conditions. You can buy a house out their for about half what it costs to buy in a white neighborhood. As a white guy I wish I could own in those neighborhoods without fearing for my life.
Where I live is the opposite to this - east is the desirable side of town. I think this is because it's an agricultural area, not industrial, so there wasn't the pollution blown by the wind.
Black people being in one part of a community is often out of choice. And unfortunately just being white doesn't open the gates to the finest apartments, either. We're broke, too.
The eastside of Milwaukee is the lakeshore, it is lined with mansions, parks and skyscrapers it is the wealthiest part of the city, westside is the hood.
the have not's need these areas, if you take care of your property you will be put down or even killed they want these areas, most important thing to the have not, is cheap rent that's why we need to keep slums alive
east london is poorer than west london because thats where the docks are - the thames is wider and its closer to the estury to the east of the city of london, so the docks and associated industry grew in the east end, meaning thats where the labour needed to be - in london its geography, not wind.
All we had to do was to follow the damn train CJ
San Andreas
Yoooo I’m weak 😂😂😂😂
That is seriously a PTSD trigger for every san andreas player lmao
West is now the wrong side. You drive to work with the sun in your face. You drive home with the sun in your face. I lived on the west side of town for 10 years before I figured that out.
well if you work on the Eastside certainly it's a reasonable idea to live on the east side just cuz you're closer to work. If yours is the opposite of most people's commute, it's really awesome. Sun in your eyes or not, a 10 minute commute is better than a 40 minute one.
Where I've lived East is generally speaking where the blue collar jobs are, and West is where the white collar jobs are. So the rich people who live and work on the west side commute northward and southward.
It is way peopole prefer to live on west side ;) they always see the sun and go in the direction of sun. Natural
@@FiercelyGold in the middle is downtown!
Dublin is on the east coast. All of Ireland commutes this way.
I think maybe you missed the point of this video...
Technically, West and east Jerusalem are seperated mostly by religion 1:48
I grew up in Tacoma, Washington. (It's in his first slide). The east side of the city sits across I-5 and the smell of sulphur (from a papermill that's always been there) and rotting shellfish blows eastward most days onto a native american reservation there and more of the cheaper housing. I lived with that for years, after a while it's hard to even notice.
This is real.
Is this the famous Tacoma Aroma Frank Zappa is talking about?
yes... I live in Seattle and frequent Tacoma which is 30 minutes away.
yeah man that's the aroma.
its 30 minutes if you're super lucky and find a time when there's no traffic. haha
It's been a lot better since the paper mill was forced to manage their pollution. Still got the Bay though.
"Go west young man"
TheAfroMonk yes, Horace Greeley, I do believe
In my country, the East sides of cities are definitely the more affluent, frequently significantly so. As a kid, I always thought this was about not having to face the sun on daily travel.... in my country the western suburbs are often the places where recent migrants are settled...
Essentially all your problems are literally caused by someone else. Always someone else’s fault.
Similarly in the southern Hemisphere, East is best. The wind and pollution are so bad in Western Melbourne and Sydney, housing prices are lower in these Western sides of the cities.
Interesting
East Palo Alto: Those poor people that make less than $200k a year :(
They actually make significantly less than that...I live in east menlo park...across from EPA....Plus rents here are crazy...I own so dont get the idea that I am saying I cant afford it...There was a article out in Mercury news, and I believe it said" the lower class wage in the bay area is 113K per year...Nearly 80 percent of people in EPA dont make that much...and I know because I am grew up in that area...The other 20 percent have jobs right down the street at FBHQ...
The _real_ wrong side of the tracks: the inside.
Not in Tucson and Phoenix Arizona! The East Part of Town is where the money is. I live in Scottsdale and it is much nicer than West Phoenix! In Tucson it is the Foothills with all that Snow Bird Money!
in Auckland, New Zealand the South is the poorest, West also being rather low income, and the East and North are the most upmarket suburbs. But in Christchurch, there is a clear split between East and West, apart from hill suburbs in the south east
Explain why EAST Palo Alto is geographically NORTH of Palo Alto?
Its food for thought... but oversimplified. The issues are far deeper and historical...
There are those who can, and those who can't, as long as this is so, you will have those who have, and those how have not. Some truths may be inconvenient, but that doesn't make them any less true.
But... Wind doesn't just blow east, it blows in literally every direction
What about the South side of Chicago? The cheap part of town is the oldest, generally. Also, I think most cities in the US generally grow west because travel and trade slightly favors westward movement.
We could do that horseshoe thing he talked about, and just put all the industry and railroad tracks in the East.
Boom, problem solved. SimCity high score.
Forgetting that the idea that all pollution entirely moves east all the time, which is incorrect, many of the cities he mentioned don't have heavy pollution and aren't industrial.
People will want to move closer to work - and would probably not be able to afford the trips from other places. Tenements and housing would at some point develop around the trains and factories - I've seen this in fossilized form around various locals in NW Indiana.
As long as trains blare their horns at crossings, both sides of the tracks are on the wrong side
Sherry Wines that’s sooooo true
Though I feel it's a noble message to design for everyone, not just a selected group -- when you cater to all, you end up with nobody getting what they need. Haves and have-nots are synonymous with status and social classes. History shows what happens when you attempt to abolish them.
He started with an interesting observation, which had an interesting and complex history. But I really wish he built something more concrete on that. Poverty is a really difficult, complicated problem to solve and I don't see how "We have to design for everyone" provides illumination on any of the questions we have to answer in order to address it.
It really isn't complex at all. It just requires taxing wealth and giving people money. It is politically difficult because people with money are powerful and don't want to give up their power but it isn't complicated.
@@oliverwilson11 You're building your worldview on the assumption that money is capable of solving poverty. The lottery has proven over and over that even if you give a poor person unfathomable amounts of money, they end up back in poverty very quickly.
The problem with bad design, is that people are very good at self-delusion, are really stubborn and campaign for/resist change, and the more that some stubborn people are about causing change, the more some stubborn people are about resisting change, and it once more becomes a zero sum of change. Like Racism. Legally, things changed, but socially, nothing did. Nick Fury may now be a black guy that owns the role so bad, the character was remodelled on him *years* before he was cast, but there'll always be the folks who'll think he's nothing but a trumped up punk... regardless of Sam Jackson's stance on Donald Trump. Don has nothing to do with the argument, except that he (a white guy) replaced a black guy when he was somehow voted into office, beating out a woman who's hubby had previously been president.
... what was my point?
Oh, yeah. the Bad Design is so ingrained that I doubt it'll change much, unless we somehow eliminate wind. Wind is bad, I know this because all those wind turbines we made to create 'green' electricity spin too fast in wind, and disintegrate, with the motors burning up, and they take sooo much space, so wind is bad. Bring on Nuclear Power! we're my damn fusion reactors!?
Also, humanity may be a little afraid of the dark, and where does it get dark first? The East. tiny reinforcing point.
@@StephanG007the money has to be used to build better institutions
I like how his graphic @5:11 puts *Income as most important and above Jobs.*
That's the reality we are still stubbornly refusing to recognize, institutionally and socially.
must be a goddamned socialist
While the notion is admirable I really wish there was a more direct explanation of what is wrong and how we can fix it.
Cheap housing and “poor neighborhoods” are probably always going to exist, and with poverty comes crime, which is it’s own vicious cycle. The speaker did touch on education inequality and that to me is major. Education as well as child mentoring should be mandatory, cause unfortunately a lot of “parents” don’t seem to want to actually raise their kids and people want to blame the educational system for not fixing bad parenting.
Jamie Foxx is way smarter than I thought, but what happened to his voice and accent?
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I thought it was Lawrence Fishburne.
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Nice thoughts, but I grew up on the wrong side of the tracks (well under the poverty line) in a single-parent household with two children, and had no impediments whatsoever in climbing quite far up the socioeconomic ladder, so I have a hard time relating to any of this. And my sister made it just fine, too, by the way. Sure, it took hard work, but it wasn't any harder than the work put in by those who started out on the right side of the tracks. And no, I'm not white, so there was no white privilege for me, and in my time (coming of age in the late 1980s) I never saw any evidence of its existence anyway.
Putting aside luck, which always plays a role for everyone, it all comes down to what you do, not what others have done to you. If you let yourself feel disadvantaged somehow and then use that as an excuse for not trying to do better, then you won't do better. If you join a gang or start abusing drugs and committing crimes just because you live in the less desirable part of town, then you'll have to live with the consequences of making such bad choices.
I realize that not everyone has the inner strength and will to resist the negative influences around them. I'm just saying that if you do, then there is nothing else holding you back from making a better life for yourself. The bad parenting and bad subcultures that are found in the bad neighborhoods are what help perpetuate this division between the haves and have-nots. Having bad infrastructure and dirty, ugly looking living spaces aren't great, either, but they aren't the real problem, which is social in nature. Those who are a part of or related to bad subcultures in some way (such as race) need to have honest, earnest conversations about what is really going on instead of always blaming whitey and trying to guilt-trip him and take from him.
Whitey never held me back in any way, and we get along just fine. In fact, there were some white people I knew from the wrong side of the tracks who made the same journey I did from poverty to prosperity. So it's not about race, per se, but to the extent that certain races aren't doing nearly as well as others overall, what really needs to be addressed are the associated negative subcultures. But sadly it seems that people aren't willing to do that. Their public "leaders" would much rather just blame whites. More broadly there are groups like the Democrats who have a stake in keeping poor people of certain races and ethnicities poor so that they can buy votes with handouts of taxpayer money, and they blame whites for everything to make it look like they are on the side of the poor and downtrodden, when in fact they are just using them to gain power and want to keep them right where they are. That's a big reason why hardly anything has changed for the better, and maybe things are getting worse.
Take it from someone who actually made it out of poverty (and without any undue difficulty)--you don't need anyone's handouts and there is no advantage to blaming others for your problems, especially when it's not even their fault. And don't be distracted by silly, irrelevant things like which side of the tracks you start out on and which way the wind blows--none of that is holding you back. There are, however, people who will try to hold you back because they're using you, namely the Democrats. Don't listen to what they say and don't let them use you to divide the country--just do what successful people do and you will be successful. I've seen this work over and over again, and I've done it myself.
Best comment on here. And the fact that no one paid any attention to it is very telling.
How exactly do you solve the east sides of cities inequality and lack of wealth _without_ gentrification? I have a hard time seeing how there is any reliable method in any reasonable amount of time that wouldn’t simply gentrify.
I don't know that anyone wants to stop gentrification entirely. They just want cities to manage it better. Cities CAN plan for the needs of traditional residents, but they usually don't and that's the biggest problem, as I understand.
Then how does gentrification not just force the previous poor residents to go somewhere else, stay poor, and possibly become worse off due to having to find new employment? Even if they did 'plan for the needs of traditional residents' I do not see any situation where they aren't still worse off.
There’s a reason San Jose ca was nearly a total loss, like SF is, and they turned it around.... they bulldozed the shithole and gentrified it and now it’s one of the few places in the Bay Area I’d be willing to go
Well we know they don't invest in themselves
just make the west side crappy too!
Aw man I wish this was longer.
Same
This was fascinating to watch.
Samuel L. Jackson??
This is what I live for. This is why I work in South Dallas. The potential I see there... in the people, especially the kids it starts with the kids and setting them on the right path. I may not see a major change in my life time but I’m hoping to at least make a dent. I believe whole heartedly that South Dallas can be just as beautiful as north Dallas WITHOUT pushing everyone out by making it over priced. We have to work together.
I’ve got some gripes, but over all good talk.
I didn't know Jamie Foxx was invited for a Ted Talk
Very interesting. I had long thought it was due to Westward Expansion in the USA, with older communities being left behind, while development continued its march in the direction of the country's growth. Maybe that is a factor, but if you're seeing this eastside phenomenon all over the world, then the eastward flow of air pollution could be even more important.
Wind is racist
baltimores west side is much worse than the east side.
Right. I didn't understand why Baltimore was included in that list.
My home town and current town the rich are on east side of town and trailer park on west. But next town over the east is poor area....well first but pass that area and 2nd half of east side is newer and richest
💝 A young, optimistic, highly educated Black man attempting to appeal to the more Inclusive, higher nature of his fellow Americans. During his talk, my anger & cynicism remained silent. His words & attitude were: HUMBLING. 🗿 (S.F.)
There's something wrong with the campfire metaphore. He forgot to mention the people who do not even get a seat by the fire. If you sit in a horseshoe, someone else is going to come fill that gap
Whine, whine whine. So, instead of whining about your sorry lot in life, take a good look at the people who are successes in life. Most of them didn't have access to superlative schools, or live in affluent surroundings. They made up their minds early on that they were going to study hard, stay in school, and WORK their way out of bad situations. They put off self-gratification, early sexual congress, drug use, and eschewed out of wedlock pregnancies. YOU have that same opportunity, regardless of what side of the "tracks" you live on. Nor is your skin color impeding your success. So, pull up your boot straps and spread the word--as my teachers did sixty-plus years ago. Post a sign in your schools that says: "Education is the ONLY escape from poverty." Stop extolling the virtues of the minority who are sports stars and start honoring the astronauts, doctors, lawyers, college professors, senior military officers, PRESIDENTS, engineers, architects, etc., who are the REAL heroes of your community. Finally, stop listening to the sound-bite rabble rousers like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. They aren't in your corner. Their agenda is to KEEP you in those east-side-of-the-tracks locations so THEY get to keep their power base with politicians by using you all as a voting bloc.
In the UK (where I'm from), crisis level rioting used to something of a national hobby, yet there has been no crisis level rioting in the UK since the 2011 riots, so far making the 2010s the most 'peaceful' decade in UK history since the 1960s! Similarly though the UK still has the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Western Europe, since 2007 the teenage pregnancy rate has been plummeting down and is quickly reaching European levels! What has happened? Go back to the 2011 riots, and you realise most of the rioters came from very specific neighbourhoods, since then, nearly all of those neighbourhoods are in the process of being Gentrified....😏
Just dont look at globe weather map. It just may contradict Stephen DeBerry "wrong side of the tracks" theory. earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-140.21,62.83,474
Watching this from Australia where the majority of the population live on the East coast and being from the East is synonymous with privilege and wealth. I guess hard and fast rules have their problems
I can show you just as many examples in the US where this premise is wrong. If you cherry-pick the cities, then you can make your point. The West Side, in MY experience, is usually the poor or 'bad' side of town. So, I fundamentally disagree with this premise based solely on geo-location, because the 'sides' of towns are based on where the rails were laid down (based on industries). Where I come from (S. Ohio) the West Side is almost always the Black side. If there is anything at all that can be shown to be systemic by design is the co-location of railroads and industries. This is a TedTalk based on fabricated premises. Victim-hood exemplified.
He speaks from ignorance (willful?). His opening is that the dividing line between East Palo Alto and Palo Alto is a county line - San Mateo vs Santa Clara. Cities aren't allowed to spread across county lines. And that county line? It follows a large creek (San Francisquito) with a deep channel. It is not as he claims, a highway. And East Palo Alto is actually *north* of Palo Alto. Details, details.
That should give you fair warning about his credibility.
Don't read the comments. Turn back. Turn back now or you'll regret it.
The EPA while once the murder capitol of the US yes, has gone through a change recently. The average house price now? Drum roll please, over 1 mil. Yup. It’s been on the news the past few week. They showed this one older black lady, had a smallish old 3 bedroom house. She had an ear to ear smile like she won the lottery, sold her house, that she owned out right, for over 1 mil. Multiple offers. In the interview she’s said she was moving to the east bay, to be closer to her grand kids, and said w/ a smile, you should see the place I’m moving too. It’s a sad/happy story. Happy for this lady, however sad got the gentrification that is occurring. EPA is just too close to Silicon Valley mega giants.
This talk was bullshit. He basically just said a problem everyone is aware of (designed geographical segregation) and said we have to fix it. No insight on how, but just "that we should". Waste of 15 minutes.
at 50s in, did you just put a dot on Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming and say that its a site of disparity? What are the wolves on the east side not living as well as the moose on the left???? And the dot in colorado is about where Walden is... um... a town of less than 1,000 people with a median income of less than $30,000... everybody is living on the east side of the tracks. 0/10
Yeah, this is true even though my cities are the worst in the North/and South. But apply your theory and the north east and south east are in the heart of brew city factories and all its downtown smog and unseen garbage collectors and city workers. Btw, Im white,and from the heart of the SOUTH SIDE! or east ?? God Bless those in the ghetto's!!!
The east side of Pittsburgh is not what he described. When you get East of the city there are neighborhoods that are not great, Hazelwood and homewood. But the best Neighborhoods if the city are sandwiched north and south of the previous neighborhoods respectively, squirrel hill, Oakland, Shadyside. Its not a eastwest thing. Especially in rust belt cities like Pittsburgh with industrial collapse. The design he's talking about is created by natural barriers rivers vallies and mountains that which were natures doing and macro economical failures which wasn't the doing of western Pennsylvania society.
It's much easier to just assume that the people that live "on the east side" are essentially (genetically or culturally) inferior, prone to make bad choices, lazy, or just unlucky. No critical thought required.
This fallacious common sense thinking is due to the fact that the poorly (mis)educated common citizenry has no clue what the structures of society are, how they affect people's lives in the micro and macro sense, and how and by who economic and political power is created and distributed.
City planning begins with satisfying the needs of the powerful, first and last. Conflict theory 101.
Whatever the social and cultural particulars are, they are unambiguously and intentionally designed that way by the powerful elite class. Red lining and gerrymandered voting, two types of social engineering being the classic examples of how economic and political power are maintained through planned inequality and disparity, exclusively in favor of American Europeans (aka white people).
Why does EVERYTHING always come down to racism? Because racism is foundational to the U.S., the most powerful European settler colony in history. Racism is a major factor in how the post WW2 New World Order is delineated.
FINALLY MY ONLY QUESTION IN LIFE IS ANSWERED!
You started your campfire example by defining that it only fits 10 people. Then, when it was convenient for your narrative, it suddenly fits ten people PLUS two empty seats. So what you had was a campfire that fit 12 people. Sadly, in real life, you can't just change how many acres you have, or how many people a land will support. So you pointing out the obvious (some land is worth more than other land), and providing an example in which you simply changed the amount of people your campfire could support to fit your narrative makes this the DUMBEST TED talk I have ever wasted my time watching.
If I had two extra thumbs down to conveniently add whenever I wanted, you would get three thumbs down, but sadly, I am limited to one.
Tue railroad runs east west in Pittsburgh....good research there bud. Also east Pittsburgh is a suburban neighbor hood in allrghney county. Its not even governed by the city of Pittsburgh. They have a different mayor. Different police force. Different school system. East Pittsburgh is as much Pittsburgh as new York city. Its only called east Pittsburgh because of the proximity to the city. However the railroad tracks in east Pittsburgh are following along the turtle creek basin. Which seperates it into another municipality called wilmerding. Who has the exact same median income as east Pittsburgh. (East Pittsburgh is west from wilmerding)
Decatur, Illinois: smelly food-processing on the east side. Sort of true. But the reservoir is to the southeast, so there’s some expensive lakefront property - but all on the far side. Sewage treatment is on the west side of town because it’s a low point and the sewage is not pumped but flows by gravity. West-enders get some sewage stench although that’s been mitigated a lot over the years.
There’s a bit of a horseshoe anyway. But when the wind occasionally shifts, the smell envelops most of the city. Sort of like bad baked beans.
Socialism has created more disparity than any other system. How do you suppose "designing for everyone" will actually be done and how will it work? Take from the West side and rebuild on the east side? And he States that we have the capital to do it. Where is that capital? We are 20 trillion dollars in debt! Doesn't sound like capital to me.
The video started off great and I thought i was going to get an in depth look into a fundamental principle of our existence. instead, it quickly turned into a boring, leftist call for “us” to “design” our way to “equality”.
when will people learn that inequality, poverty and segregation are built into the cake that is life?
“instead of sitting in a circle why dont we sit in a horseshoe?”. he should have learned the answer when he spoke to the UK economist about smoke stacks.
No. The worst part of Jakarta is at the north part of the city. The worst part of Surabaya is also at the north part of the city. The worst part of Bandung is also at the north. Some said that Eastern of Indonesia is less developed than the Western of Indonesia. However if we locate the map, the wealthiest part of Indonesia is Java, and Java is at the south side of the country. You only see it from Europe and North American perspective.
He doesn't provide any solutions; but I think that he was possibly suggesting that people with money and power, the people who run cities and design infrastructure, need to change their attitudes to the East-Side / poorer neighbourhoods because most of the industry that was causing these areas to smell bad or have smokey air are gone. So they should invest accordingly.
I guess ocean front property on the east coast is really cheap? Cool. I know lakefront property in Chicago, which is in the east, is quite expensive. How does he explain this?
East Jerusalem is a bad example.
Check your facts, not all the underlying issues have to do with the wind...
Willing to bet most abortion "clinics" are on that side too. But lets not talk about that example of racism.
Permaculture should be the new design because the most radical thing you can do is grow your own food. Village Homes in Davis California is a 45 year old living model of how it can work.
So wait, his punch line is that there is no wrong side of the tracks? I'm confused as to what the purpose of this talk was. Is he saying that less desirable property should be worth just as much as desirable property? Or is he saying that desirable property should be sold to people who can't afford to buy it?
Hmmm that is an interesting thing to notice. So why not just put the big polluters on the east side and the people on the west side? Oh right because these things are already in place.
As for camp fire smoke, we just say "white rabbit white rabbit go away" the smoke listens. Maybe if all the people on the east side say it then the earth will start spinning in the other direction!
The problem with his campfire graphic is that generally the pollution comes from many sources, not just one camp fire
East Lansing made the list, but median family income there is $88k per year, versus Lansing at $41k.
We didn't need you to research this, in the UK this has been widely known a long time. We used to have very smokey industrial areas, which were built to the east so that the smoke blew away from town. Working class housing was typically built close to those areas.
I live in St. Louis and North St. Louis is way worse than east St. Louis. Take a look at a map of where the murders occur. The map he showed wasn’t east St. Louis either, east St. Louis is on the Illinois side of the river.
it is no different with healthcare ..... the rich have better access to more progressive healthcare they revive treatments poor people can;t afford witch perpetuates their control.... control over government ... national healthcare system is much needed ... as a limit on money and property being left in a will or trust .... this is how the DuPont's the Walton's .. and others keep the empire going .... america needs a reset...
Still doesn't explain why people on the "wrong side" of the tracks don't take care of their properties nor self regulate to lower criminal elements. To invest in these areas is to be called a slum lord or a gentrifier, to throw money at the problem from the top-down is to be called a politician. Can't ask for market solutions if you damn the market the moment it gains steam.
There's been some reversal of this in some communities based on commuter experience. The east side of Jackson, Mississippi was, until the 1960s, lined with illegal nightclubs and casinos, and to the east of those lived both poor white and poor black Mississippians. But since the freeways were built there's been a steady improvement in the physical appeal and the amenities of those suburbs east of the city center such that today they include some of the most valuable property in the metro area of Jackson.
I think a big reason for this might be the commuter experience. Jackson has only minimal public transit, so everybody drives. The diurnal cycle is such that if one lives east of the place one needs to be for work each day, then driving to and from work will mean always driving away from, not toward, the sun. I've always paid attention to this in choosing a place to live.
The East End of London is poorer because it is where immigrants traditionally landed after coming up the Thames in boats. Now there are large cheap areas in West London near the airport for the same reason ....and because of the goddam noise from the jets.
why is there always a random baby walking around by itself in those areas? i have to go to a lot of run down areas for jobs and i swear random babies walking around is a normal thing there, i called the police once to let them know and see if they could track down the parents and the officer on the phone just chuckled and asked "you dont come round here much do you?" what a strange place
If the wind goes to the East direction, WHY is there hurricanes and storms from Atlantic Ocean heading to Western hemisphere?
Eh idk man. You mentioned Pittsburgh, my hometown. The east end of the city is much much more desirable than the west.
Most cities/towns near me its definitely the west side of tracks that's "bad". im 90 mins north of silicon valley. did the wind shift?
Atlanta?
Not in Fresno, the further east and north you go the better it gets.... because you leave Fresno and get to Clovis instead!!!! Lol
I was triggered from the beginning. That is not how wind works. He isn't wrong that the general direction of wind in the US does head east, but just Google global wind patterns and notice that the winds are not all going east.
So his illustration with the campfire means he wants to prohibit development on the east side? In a free country, people would be willing to live in undesirable locations when the price drops to the point that makes it desirable.
The houses in the "east side" are priced for their conditions. You can buy a house out their for about half what it costs to buy in a white neighborhood. As a white guy I wish I could own in those neighborhoods without fearing for my life.
Not really buying his conclusion. Believe it or not not everything in this world cant be explained with racism.
Where I live is the opposite to this - east is the desirable side of town. I think this is because it's an agricultural area, not industrial, so there wasn't the pollution blown by the wind.
Where was the science behind this theory? Im Black, I believe what he is saying, but where is the proof that this theory isnt all just in your head
Also the EAST GOES AROUND AND NEVER ENDS. Opportunity massive
Black people being in one part of a community is often out of choice. And unfortunately just being white doesn't open the gates to the finest apartments, either. We're broke, too.
Umm, why is East Lansing on his list? East Lansing is NOT "the wrong side of the tracks"! Dude needs to do his homework.
East Side Pittsburgh up in here. Why does he keep saying WE?
The eastside of Milwaukee is the lakeshore, it is lined with mansions, parks and skyscrapers it is the wealthiest part of the city, westside is the hood.
I always thought it was because in Europe it was because that’s where the Huns would attack first.
Well don't go driving around West Baltimore thinking it's gonna be the nice side of town...
East Palo Alto is impoverished because of the smoke from factories in Palo Alto?
I swear I thought he said the government provided those red line maps to bankers. Am I mistaken?
The audience clapped, got up, got in their BMWs, and drove home to their gated communities on the west side
Damn I didn’t he was gunna talk about my area. #YayArea He talks about Palo Alto, East Palo Alto, East Menlo and East Oakland.
It is because west side hills face the morning sun, the phenomenon existed before trains or smokestacks.
the have not's need these areas, if you take care of your property you will be put down or even killed they want these areas, most important thing to the have not, is cheap rent that's why we need to keep slums alive
Every City needs A certain number I have poor people to service the rich people and you got a put them somewhere.
So what he is saying is democrat city planners are racist? Haven't we known that for a while?
east london is poorer than west london because thats where the docks are - the thames is wider and its closer to the estury to the east of the city of london, so the docks and associated industry grew in the east end, meaning thats where the labour needed to be - in london its geography, not wind.