The next industrial revolution needs to be the one described by Gunter Pauli and his concept of blue economy. An eco-systemic economy that is localized, has multiple branching products that feed each other in a cascading manner via the "waste" that each branch/ product produces, eating up the damage we've done in the last couple of centuries. It's a mental /framework shift as well as a practical one, but until we start working this way I won't consider any technological revolution - in the classical sense - as "progress", although technology can certainly help.
Thank you for this overview of I5.0. There are many points that are quite unclear to me though.. Let's assume I4.0 is totally mastered : - Services are ubiquitous, fully connected, interoperable, free of vendor lock-ins, affordable and easily deployable - infrastructures are scalable, modular, heterogeneous, secure - Data and control streams are automated, secure, reliable - Decision making is autonomous, high-level policies dtiven, almost at real time, it's implemented at different scales and granularities (IOT, CPS, MES/SCADA, ERP levels) in a coherent and complementary fashion. It is decentralized - interaction with machines is safer, fully operational cobotics and digital twins are implemented So ok, business models are now efficient, steady, robust and adaptable Supply chains are self-aware, self-managed for the most part, reliable and secure All this (would need decades to be entirely fulfilled) would mean that, indeed, very few human involvement will be required in industry, hence the worktime offloading. Right. 👍 So let's talk about the next step : "I5.0 is mature I4.0 but it doesn't aim at profit anymore, it aims at emproving human lives ! It will be value and mission oriented" Okay ! 👍 But some important questions rise in the above mentioned I5.0 philosophy : * who decides of "value" ? * since value is not profit but rather "qualitative", how will it be implemented? * what are examples of missions in "I5.0 is mission oriented and human centered" ? * what are the main technologies that will be used and how ? * how is metaverse different than just a AR/VR digital twin model ? * can I5.0 exist if it's not absolutely globalized ? And then let's talk social considerations : * isn't I5.0 philosophy (in my opinion using ambiguous and fuzzy terminology) just a way to say to the working class "hey, you'll lose your job but no worries, we got you covered. Take this universal income and just go do some farming or cooking or whatever you're up to. And no, you're not evolving socially" ? * will every human accept the final forms of that "human-centric values" statement ? * any examples of how lifestyles will be affected ? Will all that be considered positive by every human? * are all countries and economies ready for such a shift ? How to ensure that universal income and how to allow small economies to survive in such a landscape ?" Let's talk environnement : * what would be the energetic costs of such globalized massive web services and infrastructures ? * Can a green production source be sufficient ? 🤔 * circular economy is a very decent concept indeed but it is still all about profit, isn't ? Actually What I see in I5.0 is pure profit The only use of the word "industry" means profit All the (buzz)words that are being used are meant to do profit I think I4.0 is good of mankind at a certain extent. It is honest about its goals and if mastered would really improve productivity whilst minimizing efforts But I5.0 seems to be ideological It's all about profit But a different kind of profit For a different kind of economy It's a revolution about consent 🙃
The takeaway for me: industry 5.0 is a fantasy from the perspective of a young 2020s gamer. I am pretty sure in 50 years the consensus on the definition of industry 5.0 will be vastly different. What is presented here is not a logical next step, it is ideological wishful thinking. Which is important but it does not define a time period that has not even started yet.
To me this sounds more like a mix of Industry 4.0 (as described by Schwab: As the merger of physical and digital reality) and politics (the same old politics that never changed anything to the better).
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Zack, I feel what you're saying about IR5.0 is ideological as many others have pointed out. Intentions of being Human-centric is down to the people who own the enterprises or the Govt regulatory bodies, it cannot be an Industrial movement, I was interested to learn more about the technology side of the changes, Metaverse is over-rated and it makes no sense to build and own things in a virtual world, that's intangible to most people, the Real world is more beautiful and healthy for our minds, I get we can have things controlled or sensed by using a medium such as Virtual reality, but so far there is no evidence it will help improve anything, as far as Environmental sustainability is concerned that's already there in Industry 4.0. IR5.0 seems to be far away and I think that could be when we achieve Superintelligence with AI, we may have to rely fully on AI on running the plants, operations as well decision making, that day is very far away, probably in the 2050's, I would like to revisit my comment though ;)
Thanks for the video. I appreciate the effort and find it useful. However, giving too much credit to Elon M does not make sense for an industry wide revolution/evolution paradigm. So, how do you reflect what Elon did to the Twitter employees after he bought out the company? Is it another mistake similar to his mistake when he pushed for humanless factory for Model 3?
Industry whatever-point-oh is still just a marking term. It's an attempt to define contemporary technologies from a top-down "non-technical" perspective. It's always presented as a nebulous collection of vague ideas to sell enterprise integration systems.
Unfortunately there are many organizations that use "Industry whatever-point-oh" as a marketing term... But the terms themselves are not marketing terms. They are definitions of the that step of industrial advancement. We don't "invent" each industrial revolution, they are laws of industrial revolution. Any intelligent life in the universe that industrializes will go through these steps.
@@4.0Solutions what a bullshit artist. It literally has "point oh" to sound like a software release named after "web 2.0" It was literally a marketing campaign by Bosch. Adding some intuitive architecture principles to integrated systems doesn't make a revolution, it's a natural progression and history will not record it as anything significant beyond a very successful marketing campaign. You guys sound like a bunch of cool-aid guzzling door knockers.
Устойчивое развитие - это успеть первым освоить 90% природных ресурсов планеты, а остальных загнать в каменный век. Западный мир с первой частью задачи уже справился
Tesla doesn't create energy. it stores it with it's batteries. Teslas does not produce a product with a low carbon footprint; factor in all the mining that took place to get the supplies for the batteries and watch their carbon footprint soar. It was too hard to take the rest of your video seriously and now this channel.
On Tesla creating energy: Tesla transfer's energy (nothing creates energy -- it is only transferred) from mechanical to electrical through regenerative braking; from photon to electrical through solar. On Carbon Footprint: One need only take a single Organic Chemistry course to realize that the transfer of energy from one organic compound to another, either at the macro or micro level (multi-process or single process), generally results in Carbon (the C in organic) being a by-product of the transfer. Zack should have more clearly stated that what Tesla is doing is merely a single step in a journey of a thousand miles -- over time, the C footprint shrinks (mining impact is spread across many consumption's) as Lithium is recycled over and over. The first step in achieving cheap and easy recycling of Lithium is creating the supply of recyclable Lithium and the demand for it to be recycled -- generating an incentive for the market to invest in the development of the recycling technology (see our definitions of Industry 4.0 and Digital Transformation). In Kaizan terms, Kaikaku -- old game, new rules through ground breaking technology. Thank you for watching, and thank you for the feedback!
I think you're explaining the totality of I-4.0 BEFORE we hit I-5.0; Industry 5.0 will be driven by climate, economic survival, and resources. Industry 4.0 is still unfolding and it all started with the expansion of wireless networks and everything is built on that foundation of anything-anywhere... Nothing you've explained is part of 5.0, you're just making it a buzzword.
Tesla is an example of a company that is not profit driven. Companies have to turns profit to stay in business, but there are companies that make decisions not solely based off the bottom-line.
Not exactly. The term "woke" is an overly politicized term often referring to awareness of social justice issues, particularly those related to race, gender, and inequality. Industry 5.0, while it includes elements of social sustainability, is primarily focused on integrating human-centric approaches, advanced technologies like the metaverse, and environmental sustainability into industrial practices. Labeling it as simply "woke" oversimplifies and misrepresents its broader objectives and technological advancements, but does it focus on more sustainable initiatives? Yes.
@@4.0Solutions as an. Industrial engineer i'm telling you that investors and business owners only care about profit not social sustainability, i'm not a fan for the human centric approach if it doesn't improve efficiency it will be ignored.'
there is no 3.0, 4.0, 5.0, 6.0... its just competition... only simps need a label... you're either ahead or behind of your competitors... keep it simple... benchmark your audio
Again I'll point to Tesla... they don't have competitors. They are playing their own game and winning. They open sourced their patens... made other auto companies accelerate their EV plans... these actually help Tesla on their goal to accelerate the advent of Renewable Energy and Transportation. It helps to define them in groups for us to understand... just like it helps divide a book into chapters. At the end of the day it is one story. Thanks Weldopedia!
@@4.0Solutions again? huh? Tesla doesn't have competitors? I guess GM, Ford, Rivian, Lucid, VW, Porsche (and so on) have all been lying. by the way, how is tesla winning? most people wont touch a tesla because of quality-issues.
@@orthodoxNPC Yes they do not have competitors because every car you just mentioned has actually helped Tesla on its mission to accelerate the adoption of Electric Vehicles.
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Great video Zack. You always find very interesting topics to ponder about. Appreciate it a lot.
Thanks Petter!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The next industrial revolution needs to be the one described by Gunter Pauli and his concept of blue economy. An eco-systemic economy that is localized, has multiple branching products that feed each other in a cascading manner via the "waste" that each branch/ product produces, eating up the damage we've done in the last couple of centuries. It's a mental /framework shift as well as a practical one, but until we start working this way I won't consider any technological revolution - in the classical sense - as "progress", although technology can certainly help.
Great comment! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for this overview of I5.0.
There are many points that are quite unclear to me though..
Let's assume I4.0 is totally mastered :
- Services are ubiquitous, fully connected, interoperable, free of vendor lock-ins, affordable and easily deployable
- infrastructures are scalable, modular, heterogeneous, secure
- Data and control streams are automated, secure, reliable
- Decision making is autonomous, high-level policies dtiven, almost at real time, it's implemented at different scales and granularities (IOT, CPS, MES/SCADA, ERP levels) in a coherent and complementary fashion. It is decentralized
- interaction with machines is safer, fully operational cobotics and digital twins are implemented
So ok, business models are now efficient, steady, robust and adaptable
Supply chains are self-aware, self-managed for the most part, reliable and secure
All this (would need decades to be entirely fulfilled) would mean that, indeed, very few human involvement will be required in industry, hence the worktime offloading. Right. 👍
So let's talk about the next step : "I5.0 is mature I4.0 but it doesn't aim at profit anymore, it aims at emproving human lives ! It will be value and mission oriented"
Okay ! 👍
But some important questions rise in the above mentioned I5.0 philosophy :
* who decides of "value" ?
* since value is not profit but rather "qualitative", how will it be implemented?
* what are examples of missions in "I5.0 is mission oriented and human centered" ?
* what are the main technologies that will be used and how ?
* how is metaverse different than just a AR/VR digital twin model ?
* can I5.0 exist if it's not absolutely globalized ?
And then let's talk social considerations :
* isn't I5.0 philosophy (in my opinion using ambiguous and fuzzy terminology) just a way to say to the working class "hey, you'll lose your job but no worries, we got you covered. Take this universal income and just go do some farming or cooking or whatever you're up to. And no, you're not evolving socially" ?
* will every human accept the final forms of that "human-centric values" statement ?
* any examples of how lifestyles will be affected ? Will all that be considered positive by every human?
* are all countries and economies ready for such a shift ? How to ensure that universal income and how to allow small economies to survive in such a landscape ?"
Let's talk environnement :
* what would be the energetic costs of such globalized massive web services and infrastructures ?
* Can a green production source be sufficient ? 🤔
* circular economy is a very decent concept indeed but it is still all about profit, isn't ?
Actually
What I see in I5.0 is pure profit
The only use of the word "industry" means profit
All the (buzz)words that are being used are meant to do profit
I think I4.0 is good of mankind at a certain extent. It is honest about its goals and if mastered would really improve productivity whilst minimizing efforts
But I5.0 seems to be ideological
It's all about profit
But a different kind of profit
For a different kind of economy
It's a revolution about consent 🙃
industry 5.0 is another woke BS that's all
Great analysis !
The takeaway for me: industry 5.0 is a fantasy from the perspective of a young 2020s gamer. I am pretty sure in 50 years the consensus on the definition of industry 5.0 will be vastly different. What is presented here is not a logical next step, it is ideological wishful thinking. Which is important but it does not define a time period that has not even started yet.
gotta love the slowmo scratch on the break
To me this sounds more like a mix of Industry 4.0 (as described by Schwab: As the merger of physical and digital reality) and politics (the same old politics that never changed anything to the better).
Essentially!
Awesome video, look forward to be a part from the UK
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I would like to attend,
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This is really a clear explanation of where we as a society have to go. Very brilliant video. We need more visionaries like Elon, like you, etc etc...
Humble thanks.
I like this video and also the channel for very good & informative videos.👍🇮🇳
Thank you Avik!
Thanks for the information Zack, this is an excellent and interesing information. all clear.
Glad you enjoyed it! And glad it was clear!
Good video, Zack
Really Good Video. I could completely understand the Industry 5.0 I really appreciate it, Zack.
Thank you!
Zack, I feel what you're saying about IR5.0 is ideological as many others have pointed out.
Intentions of being Human-centric is down to the people who own the enterprises or the Govt regulatory bodies, it cannot be an Industrial movement, I was interested to learn more about the technology side of the changes, Metaverse is over-rated and it makes no sense to build and own things in a virtual world, that's intangible to most people, the Real world is more beautiful and healthy for our minds, I get we can have things controlled or sensed by using a medium such as Virtual reality, but so far there is no evidence it will help improve anything,
as far as Environmental sustainability is concerned that's already there in Industry 4.0.
IR5.0 seems to be far away and I think that could be when we achieve Superintelligence with AI, we may have to rely fully on AI on running the plants, operations as well decision making, that day is very far away, probably in the 2050's, I would like to revisit my comment though ;)
Wow did not know that!
Lets finish 4.0 before all of this, as you guys talk about 80% of companies fail trying to put 4.0 in place so let focus on 4.0.
Don’t worry, we are 💪
Thanks for the video. I appreciate the effort and find it useful. However, giving too much credit to Elon M does not make sense for an industry wide revolution/evolution paradigm. So, how do you reflect what Elon did to the Twitter employees after he bought out the company? Is it another mistake similar to his mistake when he pushed for humanless factory for Model 3?
Like Metaverse and NFTs this video didn't aged well. A lot of buzz words and not much substance, its only missing "holistically" and "inclusivity".
What do you think of our recent What Industry 5.0 *Actually* is short?
Thank you!!! we are all HUMANS
Master Mister
Industry whatever-point-oh is still just a marking term. It's an attempt to define contemporary technologies from a top-down "non-technical" perspective. It's always presented as a nebulous collection of vague ideas to sell enterprise integration systems.
Unfortunately there are many organizations that use "Industry whatever-point-oh" as a marketing term... But the terms themselves are not marketing terms. They are definitions of the that step of industrial advancement. We don't "invent" each industrial revolution, they are laws of industrial revolution. Any intelligent life in the universe that industrializes will go through these steps.
@@4.0Solutions what a bullshit artist.
It literally has "point oh" to sound like a software release named after "web 2.0" It was literally a marketing campaign by Bosch. Adding some intuitive architecture principles to integrated systems doesn't make a revolution, it's a natural progression and history will not record it as anything significant beyond a very successful marketing campaign. You guys sound like a bunch of cool-aid guzzling door knockers.
Hi all. If anyone has any industry 5.0 articles or information then please do share the links. Thanks a lot
NIce
Thanks!
Thank you!
Promises,promises...
Устойчивое развитие - это успеть первым освоить 90% природных ресурсов планеты, а остальных загнать в каменный век. Западный мир с первой частью задачи уже справился
Agreed! Thank you Mark!
Tesla doesn't create energy. it stores it with it's batteries. Teslas does not produce a product with a low carbon footprint; factor in all the mining that took place to get the supplies for the batteries and watch their carbon footprint soar. It was too hard to take the rest of your video seriously and now this channel.
On Tesla creating energy:
Tesla transfer's energy (nothing creates energy -- it is only transferred) from mechanical to electrical through regenerative braking; from photon to electrical through solar.
On Carbon Footprint:
One need only take a single Organic Chemistry course to realize that the transfer of energy from one organic compound to another, either at the macro or micro level (multi-process or single process), generally results in Carbon (the C in organic) being a by-product of the transfer. Zack should have more clearly stated that what Tesla is doing is merely a single step in a journey of a thousand miles -- over time, the C footprint shrinks (mining impact is spread across many consumption's) as Lithium is recycled over and over. The first step in achieving cheap and easy recycling of Lithium is creating the supply of recyclable Lithium and the demand for it to be recycled -- generating an incentive for the market to invest in the development of the recycling technology (see our definitions of Industry 4.0 and Digital Transformation). In Kaizan terms, Kaikaku -- old game, new rules through ground breaking technology. Thank you for watching, and thank you for the feedback!
So virtue über alles....
Now i know less. Thank you.
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lmao he scratched
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Industry 5.0 you can scratch on the break 🤣
I think you're explaining the totality of I-4.0 BEFORE we hit I-5.0; Industry 5.0 will be driven by climate, economic survival, and resources. Industry 4.0 is still unfolding and it all started with the expansion of wireless networks and everything is built on that foundation of anything-anywhere... Nothing you've explained is part of 5.0, you're just making it a buzzword.
Once we accept robotics in our society we are done as middle class. Human centric is full of crabs once is spread everywhere then thongs will change
This sounds very naive. Private prioritizing people before profit? And letting their employees work fewer hours and pay the same salaries? Yeah, sure!
Tesla is an example of a company that is not profit driven. Companies have to turns profit to stay in business, but there are companies that make decisions not solely based off the bottom-line.
So basically industry 5.0 is a woke industrial revolution 😂
Not exactly. The term "woke" is an overly politicized term often referring to awareness of social justice issues, particularly those related to race, gender, and inequality. Industry 5.0, while it includes elements of social sustainability, is primarily focused on integrating human-centric approaches, advanced technologies like the metaverse, and environmental sustainability into industrial practices. Labeling it as simply "woke" oversimplifies and misrepresents its broader objectives and technological advancements, but does it focus on more sustainable initiatives? Yes.
@@4.0Solutions as an. Industrial engineer i'm telling you that investors and business owners only care about profit not social sustainability, i'm not a fan for the human centric approach if it doesn't improve efficiency it will be ignored.'
@@oussamax_1976 Industry 5.0 is AI... it's finally become crystal clear. after chatGPT Nov, 2022
there is no 3.0, 4.0, 5.0, 6.0... its just competition... only simps need a label... you're either ahead or behind of your competitors... keep it simple... benchmark your audio
Again I'll point to Tesla... they don't have competitors. They are playing their own game and winning. They open sourced their patens... made other auto companies accelerate their EV plans... these actually help Tesla on their goal to accelerate the advent of Renewable Energy and Transportation. It helps to define them in groups for us to understand... just like it helps divide a book into chapters. At the end of the day it is one story. Thanks Weldopedia!
@@4.0Solutions again? huh? Tesla doesn't have competitors? I guess GM, Ford, Rivian, Lucid, VW, Porsche (and so on) have all been lying. by the way, how is tesla winning? most people wont touch a tesla because of quality-issues.
@@orthodoxNPC Tesla is the most sold EV car brand in Norway. I see one in every driveway at the place I currently live.
@@orthodoxNPC Yes they do not have competitors because every car you just mentioned has actually helped Tesla on its mission to accelerate the adoption of Electric Vehicles.
@@orthodoxNPC Most people won't touch a Tesla... except the nearly 1 Million who purchased and took delivery of a Tesla last year... 🙄