3:00AM Here. I don't know why, but when I'm about to get some kind of sickness, or in very close situations, my insomnia often temporary get worse. And I just get flu and COVID vaccine shots yesterday, and those may cause similar effect. TwT
My son, who has autism, suddenly stopped sleeping. We didn’t catch on at first because he would lay silently in his bed. Then he started having delusions so to the hospital we went. Then a catatonic state. Drugs got him a few precious hours but over the following week he was hospitalized we struggled to get an hour or two here and there. This was with trying all sorts of things. His neurologist finally said that if he didn’t improve in the next 24 hours they would have to put him in an induced coma. Bit by bit we avoided it and finally brought him home at 4-5 hours. He had lost almost all of his speech and his sensory processing system had imploded. That was in 2018. He slowly improved, with some reoccurring episodes. His speech has never quite been the same but thank god his personality has returned. We still have to hit him with a lot of drugs to get him to sleep and keep him there. We continue to monitor his sleep through various sensing devices and security cameras. There’s a hierarchy of bigger drugs which he needs from time to time. It was the most terrifying thing his Dad and I have ever been through and we live with it hanging over our heads. Don’t underestimate sleep loss.
You poor things! You must be exhausted and worried sick. I hope everything goes to whatever "normal" will be for him soon. (We all have our own normal for everything.) My daughter could empathise with you, but fortunately not to such an extreme degree. Her 11 year-old (also an Aspie) has been on melatonin for ages. They give her "breaks" from it during school holidays but school nights are sacrosanct. Fortunately, they moved to a bigger house recently, and she now has her own room. She's no longer disturbing her 5 year-old sister - and vice versa. They _think_ the older daughter is sleeping better, but it's hard to tell. The fact that she sleeps pretty well without meds when she stays with us might show that being alone helps. During bad times they brought her the 150 miles for a few days with us so they can get some sleep! Oddly enough, my daughter didn't sleep through the night until she turned 5. She's now 32 and I'm still an insomniac from back then! Today I've had about 30 minutes sleep (it's just after 7am) overnight and had had a post-dinner "pass out" (it just happens) for about 2 hours in the evening. I rarely get more than 3-4 hours in 24, in small naps. (It's not just because of the habitual insomnia, for which I take a crap ton of meds, I'm physically disabled and in chronic pain. That wakes me too.) It's not a fun thing for anyone involved with an insomniac, let alone the sufferer of it. (Edit: just wanted to add that my daughter isn't on the spectrum but my younger son - nearly 30, and living with us - is. He never had a sleep problem even as a baby. Getting him up has always been his - or rather my! - problem! 😅) All the best, I truly hope he recovers some regularity in his sleep pattern soon, and the same will apply to you. Don't underestimate the negative effects it has on you as well as him. Love can be a real kicker at times! 🫂
Asking as someone who will lay in bed all night and not sleep, but can sleep standing up during the day. Is he able to sleep during the day at all? I've got so many sleep problems, but I can usually still sleep for a while during the day, but not always. Gotten worse in my adult years, but hey antioxidants might help.
The longest I've gone without sleep was 5 days, it was during army training. On day 4 I was seeing giants walking across the landscape, by day 5 I couldn't tell who was a real person or an object. Some people never fully recover after a 5 day streak. I can't imagine what 18 days does to you.
I did 8 days on an acid bender once. No real visuals besides what you'd already get from acid. However, I can't imagine 18 days. I was still full of LSD when I finally went to sleep on day 8. At that point, I was eating a 5-strip at a time, 3 or 4 times a day just to keep going. My body just shut down and said "screw you, you're sleeping". I was out like a light for 17 hours.
@@Casualweeb475 Yes. But most of us aren't fruit flies, and can't stay awake for 25-50% of our total life time, continuously, to begin with. It might give us 20 more days. It might remove all negative side effects. Or it might do nothing at all.
Unfortunately, I was literally taught, “you can sleep when you’re dead.” Now, research appears to show that this statement is actually a self-fulfilling prophecy. (Be careful who you listen to, I guess…)
I am so lucky right now, I was getting 5ish hours of sleep for 2 years and working a job I hated, 2 whole hours commuting (I could have been fricken SLEEEPNG DURING THAT TIME 😢) But now I’m doing science education in my city, getting paid more, getting 8 hours of sleep per night, going to the gym, and no more daily commute!!! So much better…. Get your sleep people! And remember- your corporate job DOESNT need you. You need a job, but you shouldn’t sacrifice your health and mental state for a “decent” paycheck…
Most people don't really need 8 hours. I spent 1 month sleeping without setting an alarm and timing how long i slept, i averaged out on 7 hours 20 minutes. Saving 40 minutes each day makes me able to enjoy ten additional whole days per year.
I'm glad you're sleeping and in a better situation than before! Also, I think it's cool that you got into science education as a career. May I know about your process of getting into that career?
Once I found out how lack of sleep gives you permanent brain damage, I decided there is NOTHING in this world as important as a good sleep. The exams can be retaken, relationships can resolved, catastrophes are none of my business.
@@yourboy_BillCipherIt's miniscule brain damage that accumulates over time and even then any symptom will show up as early onset dementia as you get old. As a youngster partying or gaming till 4am you have nothing to worry about as long as you get enough sleep later on.
@@tomaccino soo lets say you worked/partied 16 hours a day... or even 20 (overkill) for straight 3 months, how do you rejuvenate that? When the damage to your body has been done, stress + lack of sleep can make your hair turn sligtly white in your early 20s
I used to work a job that had we switching my sleep schedule every 2 weeks, a full 12 hour flip, from 6AM-4 changing to 5PM-3. After a year my health was completely destroyed. Schedules like this should be full on illegal. I allowed a corporation to place profit above my health and the health of my team, and I have regretted it in the decade since, as I have never fully recovered my ability to sleep well. We can't continue to structure capital as the pinnacle of what our society works for, it will ruin us all.
That's not "capital" you fool. Some companies need to function 24 hrs and need those schedules. I'm sure you won't mind working the graveyard shift for the rest of your life correct?
in the military i worked a schedule of 4 days on 4 days off, they were 12 hour posts but i had to arrive an hour and a half before post to arm up and do a formation and sometimes getting relieved could take an hour after i was supposed to be finished, so 14ish hours a day. someone who worked a 9-5 office job got a stick up their ass about us having 4 days off in a row so the 4th day became mandatory training day. i worked the night shift. so one day we're showing up for training at 0700 and getting released around 1630, while the next day we had to be arriving to work at 1630 and getting released around 0700. it's been 15 years and i have still never recovered, my mind and body have just been turning to mush ever since
@@captnwinkle"you fool" reeks of neckbeard. Our current sleep schedules weren't even adopted until after the industrial revolution. Some companies need those schedules but having dedicated night shifts instead of switching all the time would benefit productivity more if you knew anything. The only issue was profit therefore OP's health was placed below profit as he said. These companies are meant to service the populace as a whole it was one of the driving ideas behind capitalism beyond personal wealth. If you lose sight and let companies take control then they're genuinely no better than a despot controlled government
we had similar shift work stateside but Panama schedule 2-2-3-2-2-3. Somehow always had ranges and mandatory trainings during our sleep time or days off. And had to take leave to have any holidays while office crew just did 3 or 4 day passes practically every federal holiday. Shift work… never again if I can afford it. I don’t even want to be on call. Sleep is too important… he types in the comments at 3:30am on Friday. Whoops.
This isn't even related to your comment but I saw that having 24h sleep deprivation is like having .4 alcohol in your bloodstream or smth, I'm probably skewing this fact bc I forgot it but basically it's over the legal limit when driving
@@yourboy_BillCipher I haven't really experienced 24hr sleep deprivation, but i've definitely had a period where my sleep was so poor and heavily interrupted that i basically practically up in that state. my thoughts were coherent, but i could hear myself talking so slowly and i felt heavy it was awful lol. it's not quite like being drunk, but you are definitely slow and weak and i would not drive if i felt like that.
I stayed awake for 3 days, and let me tell you the once I hit 65+ hours I was definitely seeing weird (and kind of scary) things. Then when I was finally able to try to sleep, I had a real hard time falling asleep. And there were no stimulant drugs involved.
Around 3 days up for me too, plus 1 or 2 hours a night for a few nights prior (I was extremely stressed). I eventually got to the point where I couldn't recognize my shadow and ended up hypervenitllating in a corner because I thought I was being chased and couldn’t figure out how my pursuer kept finding me.
@idonthaveausername.8035 plants were turning into wolf like demons. And when I closed my eyes all I could see was a baby's head in a cowboy hat... And it was terrifying for some reason!
36hrs is where things start to get weird and stay weird for about 12hrs. You then get about half a day or relative normality before the serious visual, auditory, olfactory and tactile hallucinations. 3 days is probably the suckiest amount of time to go without sleep. After that it's absolutely insane and your body "usually" becomes exhausted and simply shuts down at some point.
I sorta spiraled between sleepless nights and passing out and sleeping for days at a time not too long after I moved out for college due to some psych stuff in my life. My longest run was 7 days. By 3 days, I was on the edge of hallucinations, like seeing "things" out of the corners of my eyes and hearing artifacts of other sounds. By day 4 it was full blown living in a hallucination. Like putting on glasses and seeing cartoony sometimes almost horror living anime like vision. It was pretty screwed up. Fun, but screwed up
I was severely sleep deprived once. I had pneumonia after having H1N1. Before I was diagnosed I was up for 3 days straight because I couldn’t stop coughing. I’m telling you every exhale was a cough. I was hallucinating and I could not function at all. My boyfriend told me I was speaking literally gibberish. I don’t remember parts of it either. Finally I went to UC and diagnosed with pneumonia. I started antibiotics and recovered quickly.
I feel you on the hallucination. I was sleep deprived with my first child as a newborn. It was like I was awake but not really there, like dreaming while being awake
In the military we sometimes have minor sleep deprivation. It’s very common for sleep deprived soldiers to hallucinate especially at night. I saw weird shapes shifting in my vision and weird shadows. My friends saw whole animals and trees.
Is this why I see random flashes of things in the corner of my eyes sometimes? I'm a bit more than mildly paranoid so I'm glad I haven't experienced actual hallucinations, I feel like if I did I'd never be the same
When I have minor sleep deprivation I just hear super faint auditory hallucinations. They usually don't even sound real- it usually feels more like something is forcibly thinking about noises in my head for me, rather than like I'm actually hearing a noise.
Remember kids, a gram of uranium has about a billion calories! You could eat one gram and not have to eat for the rest of your life! (On an unrelated passing tangential side note, you would die if you ate a gram of uranium.)
One of the ways my mother abused us was by purposefully depriving us of sleep, especially on school nights. She'd come up with random ass things to keep us awake to one or two in the morning, when we had the bus at like six or seven. It wasn't until I was an adult on my own that I realized how much that affected me, just as much as the gas lighting and beatings, maybe more to some extent. It had a big impact on my grades, my ability to have energy for anything outside of her, my emotions, my cognitive functions, everything.
I was chronically sleep deprived for several years due to late night work, traveling and bad habits generally. It all led up to an especially bad bout of insomnia that was aggravated by a case of Acid Reflux which is something I had never had problems with before. The Acid Reflux messed up my sleep even worse and that in turn seemed to lead to worsening gut symptoms. I eventually had to take time off from work and radically change my diet and sleep pattern and was diagnosed with a bad case of gastritis. In retrospect it really seemed like my terrible sleep habits set off the gastritis but it was hard to find really reliable info explaining the connection. But this video seems to show a solid connection
Wait, I've been having sleep deprivation for months, how many more until this happens? 😭 I still feel just as energetic as I would normally, albeit my eyes feel a bit groggy but I dont actually feel tired or anything. O remember feeling utterly relaxed after 1 hour of sleep once
@@yourboy_BillCipher Its different for everyone. Like I said I was sleep deprived for years and I thought I was just fine until suddenly I definitely wasnt.
Could you please elaborate on how acid reflux messed up your sleep? I have acid reflux at night and sleep problems and i think there may be a connection. 😩What were your symptoms in regards to acid reflux and bad sleep?
I have had times where I was so sleep deprived that I got home, tried to eat something, and threw it up within 10 minutes. Then I just went to bed. I felt awful pretty much the whole day before that happened.
i'm literally pulling an allnighter right now. my teachers decided 4 big projects all due at similar times was a great idea. i don't think the education system even cares about us anymore.
And even with an education you can't get a job anymore. Degrees are useless now. (first they were optional, another way to get a job vs experience after they weren't mandatory. Then the next shoe dropped and people with degrees are stuck asking "Do you want fries with that?")
@@SageGarlandSingerSongwriter Its like were going full circle and the liars are taking over society and killing anyone else, since most of this was all known 1950's and then coutner culture, just wait they will bring back posture and books on your head, lol for training.. again, whislt accusing people.. trash olympics.
Change habits lol. Seriously tho, things aren’t gonna magically change post grad & e we all should be scared of when the body tells you to stop something rather than your will
@@yourboy_BillCipher It depends on how much deprivation and how often, but it'll hit you like a brick when it does. I used to run on like 2-3 hours plus micro-naps for all of highschool. Years later, I still struggle with staying awake. If my head is remotely horizontal I immediately fall asleep, it's awfully inconvenient. You really should try to get a decent sleep as often as you can.
Can we give scishow big props for classy clickbait? Like, even if the thumbnail doesn’t entice me to watch, it’s still leaves me with the *right idea*.
Career trucker- oh yeah sleep deprivation I’m intimately aware of for the immediate and long term effects. Add not being able to have any regular sleep hours for a proper circadian rhythm. In just 10 years my general health and a few acute problems have come out of nowhere mostly physical but also mentally. It’s just super hard on a human.
Having sleep disorders sucks. And basically, if you're neurodivergent or stressed or just unlucky, you got them. Our entire economic system of needing to work and have a life and then also needing 8 hours of sleep, which takes time to actually get ready for sleep and fall asleep and not everyone's circadian rhythms are on 24 hours like we assume, it sets most people up for failure with sleep, both in quality and longevity. Honestly, it sucks to hear. Lots of us don't get good quality sleep and/or enough sleep and it's stressful to think about, which makes it harder to sleep.
During quarantine I discovered that my circadian rhythm is just over 24h. It was interesting finding myself go from being nocturnal to being an early riser
When I had my son, I was so sleep deprived during his first year, I literally felt I was going to die. All the family members, who promised me to help with the baby, including my husband, never did. That's why I'll never have anymore children.
@Azmat-r6c it's hardly dramatic. It's not just feeling a bit tired. Extreme fatigue is no joke, on top of having to work, look after a baby and do the usual things about the house.
Just got done with summer road construction season in Wisconsin. Definitely explains why i struggle so bad 😂😂 6 months with 50-75% normal sleep and normally lower quality, doesnt let you recover from 12-14 hours of physical labor a day
yes, 'cause puppies are cute and rats are weird and filthy (except the lab rats) > puppies give us youtube videos > rats give us leptospirosis and the black death so, naturally, rats get less empathy
I went through the same thing with my kiddo with autism. She started sleeping through the night around 5 or 6. In the meantime, be kind to yourself. You are a super parent.
As a former child who also has autism, I hope I can help you at least a little. I used to struggle with sleeping a LOT as a kid, and from my experience I see two methods of dealing with this issue: 1. As alphalupin already alluded to, just give it time; your kid may eventually learn how to sleep through the night. Be kind to yourself, take naps throughout the day (if you can), and - the most important thing - _talk to your pediatrician;_ tell them about your kid's sleeplessness (so at least it can be documented), and work with them to find a way to help your kid fall asleep easier. 2. If #1 fails to work, then your kid might be like me; my brain just would not shut off no matter what I or my parents did, it would take 2+ hours to fall asleep, and it was _incredibly_ difficult to stay asleep! In this scenario, you _must_ try all other alternatives, _and_ have your kid's sleeplessness documented -- at which point, *_talk to your pediatrician about getting your kid on sleep meds._* Most doctors do not want to jump to medicate kids unless you've exhausted all other options first, and I agree with this philosophy; however, to this day, I _physically_ cannot sleep _unless_ I take my sleep meds (trazodone, if you're curious), and my life would have been _so much better_ if I had access to sleep meds earlier.
My parents didn't bother working with my pediatrician (well, technically I didn't have a pediatrician -- just our family med doc), and since they didn't raise the issue with my doc she didn't think my sleep issues were that big of a deal. It took until I was _22_ before the doc was like "okay, you keep complaining about this, so lets finally take this issue seriously." It took until I was _22_ to finally start sleeping through the night. Please don't be like my parents. Be kind to yourself, but _please_ work with your pediatrician so your kid doesn't go through life with inadequate sleep like me.
I feel for you and my parents. As an autistic adult, when I was 6 I saw a scary black and white movie, ('The Beast with Five Fingers'). Had nightmares/night terrors 3-4 times a week... for 6 years. Don't think I really shared much of that with them at the time. Probably once. After they blow you off for it just being a dream, you just accept that's what your life is like now. I sleep few hours a night even now. I am retired and am up every few hours. Up. Pacing. Doing chores. Thinking. I no longer try to keep up with how much I have slept.
My friend had this problem. Her husband human proofed the room even boarded the window and installed a Dutch door(half door) as he was 6 and a baby gate ain't nothing but a hazard
Same here. It's only recently I've noticed a correlation between staying awake for 24hrs+ and getting diarrhoea. This video is great for explaining why.
@@yourboy_BillCipher Short answer: I didn't. Long answer: Don't have caffeine in my usual diet so it's more effective when I do have it. Then I use cola or an energy drink to keep myself awake long enough to fall asleep the next night.
@@jul1440 I fall asleep to nothing... (I will crush my headphones if I sleep with them in, I also sleep in a room with other people ALSO trying to sleep so using a speaker is a no go) Actually, wait... I fall asleep to something- my tinnitus ringing in my ear at 13.5KHz... LOVELY thing to hear when you're trying to sleep.
Yeah I actually almost LEFT, which would have been worse for their algo than if I had stayed and plugged 2x speed or skipped ahead. Though my commenting rn just negated their non cut-to add, per engagement algo. But yeah no this is 2 times now that I prematurely closed their vid
I prefer them using a different person for their sponsor. I don't like the person who is informing me of something breaking off and trying to sell me something. Maybe I prefer it and am user to it because I grew up when there was cable and commercials.
RUclips just recommended this video to me. Scary coincidence because I haven’t actually slept last night for almost 26 hours now because I wanted to fix my sleep schedule. Won’t be sleeping till tonight (10 more hours) 💀
@@Temperiusmy friend used to do smth where she'd stay up all night then on the next day she'd sleep at her desired time, worked like a charm (tho I wouldn't recommend this method)
@@yourboy_BillCipher For people who suffer with insomnia, that is often the only way. For me, it's absolutely impossible to fall asleep without being up for at least 15 hours, no matter how much I exercise during the day and no matter what bed time routine I do. And then, due to taking hours to fall asleep anyway, my wake up time keeps getting pushed forwards. If only I could just fall asleep in under 10 seconds like my dad.
I can totally relate to that way of fixing a sleep schedule although I am slowly getting used to it and even after 30+ hours without sleep I still manage to stay awake until my usual time when I go to bed, which is after 3AM.
While I find scishow generally quite accurate for the most part, this episode was quite misleading. This was talking about a single study in fruit flies and implying that it's the same mechinism as death from sleep deprivation in humans or other animals. We have data from sleep deprivation deaths in mammals, and the causes of death have been attributed to systemic infection from cell breakdown and insufficient waste clearance, causing sepsis and death. Neurofunctional decline in the hypothalamus, resulting in dysfunctional body temperature control, leading to hypothermia and death. For Scishow to not mention the already well known causes of death in sleep deprived rodents and to focus on the one-off finding of ROS in fruitfly guts that's still being studied and then declaring that its the sole cause of death from sleep deprivation when we have evidence to the contary feels a little misleading to me.
I didn't really get that they were declaring one cause as THE cause in this one. This struck me as a general review of the experimental history. 🤷♂️ But I'm an enthusiast, not an expert, so that's very much a layman takeaway.
I can see how the lay person can be misinformed here, I can see how the amateur could learn something cool here and already know not to believe everything they hear, and how the expert isn’t watching YT for this content Dunning -Krueger doing a lot of heavy lifting these days 😂. POA enjoy the ride and be good to people. You’re not wrong about how they give the vibe of knowledge but an expert would tear it all apart. It’s entertainment not a research paper 😅 I learned something new ✌️and am motivated slightly to sleep more
Exactly what I thought, just one paper on hard sleep deprivation. And the other, just a harsher version done on mammals. Not exactly key to showing what is realistically considered “sleep deprivation” in an average person’s daily lives.
This is good to know. Not only do I have both types of sleep apnea, but I have a big problem of prioritizing stimulation like games or videos over sleep. It worries me about my health down the road, so a little something to help with that is probably something I should consider.
Important to note that Guinness is more a novelty than an actual record. They require very little in the way of proof and _you_ have to pay for their "judges" to come and witness your record. Meaning they have a vested interest in awarding people just for the attempt most of the time. They definitely do not deserve the notoriety that they have. So I'm still not convinced that the record for no sleep really is 18+ days. You die from Fatal Insomnia within two weeks. So that "record" is way beyond sus.
They also say you die after 3 days of no water, but I survived after 7 without even touching a drop of water, and the world record is 18 days. They probably just say you die in 2 weeks of no sleep so nobody tries it; same with the 3 day water thing.
Uh.. as a scholar in all subjects, I can say that it was Not even close. You might think of a sea cucumber as a walking, barebones stomach, but it’s far from equivalent to a human’s. Sea cucumbers consume sediment from the ocean floor, and their simpler digestive system is designed to sift out nutrients from this sediment, not to process complex foods. In contrast, the human stomach produces hydrochloric acid and various enzymes to break down proteins, carbohydrates, and fats. So, while there's a tiny overlap in purpose (both are a sack that process food internally), the systems aren’t closely comparable.
@@smurfydayHmm you may got some confusion goin on, it may come from the fact that the digestive tract has an "external environment" exposure at both ends (mouth and anus), but that doesn’t make it “outside” the body. It’s more accurate to say that the digestive tract is a closed system inside the body that processes external substances (food and drink). As for COVID-19 causing digestive symptoms, this is due to the virus’s ability to infect cells lining the gut. Many viruses and bacteria can affect different organ systems, but this has nothing to do with the digestive system being “outside” the body. So, that claim is misleading and scientifically incorrect.
@@AzyrealLalOh.. That's TLC content right there 😂 . Seriously I got this clip of the native Chinese on their rural areas like a village or something. They are boiling and ate it as soup out of desperation since 1920's famine but your body gets none of the nutrients though
The glynphatic system is quite a recent discovery. We used to think we’d finished A & P but turns out we hadn’t. Essentially we give ourselves instant fatal dementia by not sleeping and allowing this system to take out the rubbish at night.
I know very little about biology but I can't say I'm surprised, I've been an insomniac (and now also have epilepsy) for a LONG time and my memory is a mess and my hands often tremble, although tbf that's made worse by my different meds. I'm convinced I'm going to get Alzheimer's or dementia when I'm old, even more so as my grandmother had dementia before she passed away so it's also in my family too. My mum is an insomniac as well (although not epileptic) and she has a pretty bad memory and her hands tremble a lot like me and it was her mum who had dementia so I really hope my mum doesn't go through that too because it was sad enough seeing my gran go through it
@@teethgrinder83neurological disorders & deterioration can happen a lot sooner than most people believe! I used to assume (naively) that such problems only happened when you get to 80 or more
I thought I didn't sleep for nearly 7 days when my kidneys were failing after a coma. Turns out I was micro napping. I didn't know it till like the 5th day when one roommate in the hospital said the coma got me good, because I would stop talking mid conversation for a minute or two. Then continue talking like nothing happened. I didn't realize that. I had him as a roommate for four days, and we talked a lot. So I am curious how people stay up longer without drugs.
@@dianapennepacker6854 yeah I sometimes micro-sleep when I'm not able to sleep but when I had the worst run of no sleeping I definitely didn't sleep at all. After the neurologist was able to narrow down the triggers of my seizures to lack of sleep and stress though I'm on a couple of mild sedatives at night (which don't always work but I try other things like keeping a routine etc...too, but I'm a light sleeper unfortunately so once I'm awake I'm utterly awake) on top of the other 2 anti-epileptics I take twice a day so I don't have seizures so often now. I feel really bad for my mum though as she just kinda lives with bad sleep
There is a condition called familial insomnia, and it’s basically where as you get older you slowly lose the ability to sleep. Pretty horrifying. By the time most people are in middle age, they pass away after essentially days or weeks on end of complete sleep deprivation. as awful as it is, it does offer a window for scientists to better understand sleep and how exactly it impacts us. That being said, I hope like hell they find a cure for that, for those terribly unfortunate folks who are afflicted…
"Fun" fact: there is another version of that disease called " _sporadic_ fatal insomnia" which is basically the exact same thing but with no family history to serve as a warning. Thank goodness it is very rare.
I’m 73 years old I take a sleeping pill at night I go to bed between 11 and midnight I wake up at two I wake up at four and if I’m lucky I will sleep again until maybe five 530. I hate this. Plus I do eat ginger blueberries apples bok choy lots of different things that have antioxidants. Not that anybody cares it’s just a statement
you probably need to drink b vitamins, if you drink coffee already drink half an energy drink most of them have b12 if you sleep better you can now know it's b vitamins.
Your frustrations are valid. Struggling with sleep, especially in older age sucks. I hope in the future we can reverse damage from many of us not sleeping enough or even when it's enough, not sleeping well.
I assume you already consume zero caffeine? and you don't drink wine right? you don't eat anything after about 7pm? no smoking pot right? and you tried melatonin before resorting to "sleeping pills"? Low sugar healthy diets is important but not the whole ballgame. What things have you tried?
This reminds me of an old Flash-based game, called CellCraft. You play as a Platypus cell and have to manage your organelles to survive, including generating toxins and other stuff. One of the main features of the game is that whenever you used photosynthesis(implemented not as a realistic reason, but rather as another way to survive), the chloroplasts would generate a HUGE amount of oxidants, and as such you had to activate them sparingly or your cell would die pretty quickly, overwhelmed by its own gut garbage.
I had a pretty good routine for all nighters I came up with in school. Every two hours I ate half a bag of mixed steamed veg, was constantly drinking water. Every 6 hours I had a burger egg tortillas and more steamed veg. It's crazy how much of a difference that would make.
Humans have tested a lot of things on a variety of animals for centuries. Animal activists complain today despite significant improvements and the reason is because no matter what you have to test and variety of creatures to compare results and data and then sometimes human trials if it's possible. Rats are very commonly used today but they're highly social animals that bond just like dogs do. They're called pocket puppies for a reason. We use primates farily often as well as they're still our closest relatives to most other animals. It's a sad reality in science
@@yulfine1688I wish they could experiment on actual humans but then they're like "that's bad!" Animals cant Consent to experiments. Humans can. If a human consents to an experiment, they fully understand what's happening. Animals don't.
You lucky jerkface. If you could bottle that ability you'd be a billionaire overnight. Oh, but do you wake up easily? I've always heard that's the trade-off, that if you sleep easily you have a tendency to sleep through alarms.
Or you may actually sleep deprived and have central apnea . If you have Central apnea , you can easlly fall asleep , frequently but you are not actually sleeping thats why you can fall asleep easily.
@@v3ss0n Sleep apnea isn't real, it's something they invented to sell expensive machines to your insurance company. Don't you find it awfully suspicious that literally everyone that goes in for a sleep study is told they need one afterwards?
1:45 When I was sleep deprived, I thought it was as though I were drunk. I had, however, never drank alcohol in my life, and hence, knew not if my guess were accurate.
I would be curious to know more about sleep deprivation and why some days it's not that bad and others it's down right miserable. I have been diagnosed with insomnia, and without pills I can't sleep, and finding out more to why that is without me spending 1000s is always interesting and its effects on the next day
Not being facetious, but speak with your doctor. They can offer advice on where to look if not give you that insight outright. They don’t have to be just resources for diagnosis and prescriptions like many people commonly utilize them. Alternatively, research some mental health and neurological disorders, _but only if you are certain you won’t self-diagnose._ That trap is even easier with those disorders due to the massive overlap with each other and “normal” human behaviors. They can do some really weird things and manifest physically. Hell, just increased stress can do all of that. Resulting in perplexing, seemingly arbitrary, complications.
@@Leaky_Spigot I mean I have multiple doctors about my sleep state and they've all basically told me they've reached the end of their expertise about it. I think I've seen a total of 6 different doctors about it. Saddly insomnia can be caused by so many things, but not much research has been made into the more rarer cases. They did offer to put me in for my tests but we are talking 1000s of dollars, and I'm barely paycheck to paycheck. Of course a couple of those doctors were two different psychiatrists because my insurance declined to offer medication as a solution unless I proved it wasn't caused by depression and stress.
@@TemplePate01 YT really isn't a place to search for diagnostic advice. (Especially if that person has chosen to name themselves as a piece of broken hardware. lol.) Even when well intended, the information you get may be false or even dangerous and should only be only be used to find topics to properly research _if they are relevant._ To that end, I can't really offer anything else. I do wish you luck though. That's a really difficult position to be in. Keep at it though. Some journeys last longer than others.
@@TheLithophile I get that, and felt that was most likely the case as well. Unfortunately, their situation isn’t uncommon, and for some, any answer can become better than the endless, exhausting barrage of no answers. I only meant to help remind/reinforce the exercise of caution in case it was needed.
Some science is actually not worth the horrors that we inflict on other animals, not just the puppies but also the mice and rats. I think that we need to change these norms, I think it’s really despicable that someone was allowed to do this.
when i was a teenager i often went without sleeping, longest was 5 days straight. not intentionally, i just had extremely severe insomnia, i simply was not able to fall asleep no matter how hard i tried. by the last day i was delirious, kept seeing shadows out of the corner of my eye, could hardly respond to anything, and just generally felt like i was losing my mind. wouldn't recommend.
Thank you for your sleep deprivation video. I am a night shift nurse. I work 12 hour night shifts. I am 71 years young. I don't see many studies on sleep deprivation and those who work nights. But what I've been doing over the past few years is rather than adjusting my sleep schedule on my days are off I just keep the same schedule on my off days. In a way it's good because it's quiet in the house and I can get some work done. But not always practical so if you know of any suggestions please share them with me thank you very much
While working in a hospital, I took care of a lady (who had many, many health issues) who was brought in due to a psychological break. She stared straight ahead and moved her mouth like she was talking for 3 FULL weeks. We weren't in her room all the time, but we did turn her every two hours to keep her from getting pressure sores, and nobody ever saw her sleep. Nothing we gave her helped at all (except the IV feed that kept her alive), but at the end of three weeks, she suddenly went back to her normal (very physically unhealthy) self. We ended up sending her home after a few more days. Strangest thing I ever saw. Would love to know what was going on.
if it was for a psychotic episode then it's possible that some rare, undiagnosed and unusual brain condition, likely temporary, caused her to remain awake yet suffered no permanent damage or symptoms once it 'fixed itself', there are so many such strange afflictions which can only be guessed at by specialist physicians regarding the exact cause and nature... however, after i broke my neck back in '90 and became a quad i spent the first 3 weeks in an icu with over 100lbs of weights strapped to my neck before i could have my spinal fusion surgery and be fitted with a halo... i was on a constantly electrically rotating bed to prevent bed sores and fluid in my lungs, tubes through my nose to my stomach and a foley cath... i was given morphine every few hours for the first 2 weeks so after a few days being strapped to that bed looking straight up at the ceiling at various angles as that bed tilted from one side to the other, i was seeing interesting things as i could not sleep... after, i think, 7 days or so they removed the foley for reasons that i no longer can remember and then nurses would clean/intermittently cath me every few hours... anyway, this all lasted for about 3 weeks and i never really slept throughout that time... nurses were aware of this but what happened was that i'd constantly experienced micro-naps... even with my eyes opened i'd go into a trans where i could still hear everything wnd often see the ceiling and be back to alert instantly as soon as anyone passed near me, spoke to me or it was time to get catheterized... yet i'd also somehow go right back into my trance, even after they no longer gave me morphine and that's how my brain could regenerate and function sans any actual sleep i suppose... perhaps that woman was experiencing something similar?...
Those poor flies 😮😂 theyre just awake like "yknow ive just been feeling kinda shite lately but i dont know why" and then they die My sleep schedule sucks bc i work nights and have been a chronic sleep procrastinator...very interesting stuff. Guess i need to look up what foods are anti-oxidant rich. And maybe sleep better.
this is why it's extremely important to fight for shorter/less work days, school days that are pushed back to later in the morning (teens especially have delayed circadian rhythm) with no homework, and why we need to kick the "grind" mindset to the curb. we're killing ourselves, worse, we're killing our children. I remember when I was a teen, I'd stay up late each night because I wanted free time that school didn't give me. I slept at 2, got up at 6:30ish to go to school, and would try to make up the sleep in class. depression hit me hard about the same time this started up, and I've never recovered. there's also a bout of stomach issues to go with it so hm.
It is been three years since I have had some weird disorder that no doctors were able to figure out. My insurance plan has some very slow doctors. Three years back I forced myself to not sleep for 48 hours straight because my grades were laughed at. After I did get good grades, of course, the teachers' attitudes changed. But now that I think of it and all the mental with physical pains and debilitating daily life, it wasn't worth it at all, didn't worth a single penny in the end. It actually costed me more. I now work as a e-commerce salesperson and didn't go to college, which I must say, will never be where my talent would fit. This is the biggest joke I've made to myself. And it probably will kill me within the next five to ten years, well...that is, if doctors still have no answers.
@@Rin-t2k I'm sorry to read that. I suffered from heavy gastritis and hair loss due to lack of sleep. For the first problem I took proton pump inhibitors for a few days and then just took care of not provocating acid reflux again. For the later, I took Valeriana Oficinales for a month, which helped me sleep much better and recover my healthy melatonin levels, therefore ending problems I had besides hair loss.
"In 1894, Russian physician Marie de Manaceine conducted a study on sleep-deprived puppies to determine if sleep is more important than food. She kept 10 puppies, aged 2-4 months, in a constant state of activity by walking and handling them, and found that all of them died within a few days. The puppies' deaths were attributed to severe brain lesions." Absolute monster...
Don’t know if I would call them a monster lol. Hindsight has a far different perspective, especially when the point you’re looking at is 130 years ago.
@ no I’m just saying pointing at one thing that a woman did rather than millions that men have done and calling her a monster is not fair to iffvfox9749
Not only is this video making me sleepy, it's giving me flashbacks to college. Both roommates I had were from the opposite side of the world and kept me up all night with their late night gaming
I worked nights for a year and it was one of the most miserable years of my life. I don't care what anyone says, sleeping during the day is not really sleeping. And I was a single mom, so I was flipping my sleep schedule every time I was off, every 2-3 days. Between that and all the sleep I lost in my 20s, I'm destined for Alzheimer's any day now. Now I'm bad about splitting up my sleep. I work 2nd shift so I'll stay up late and then wake up while my son is getting ready for school, then sleep for like 2 more hours before I go to work. My therapist always asks about how much sleep I get and I always say 8 hours but then I mentioned how it is split up, and its obvious to me now, but that is NOT 8 hours of sleep because of REM cycles and the unpredictable times I sleep and wake up. So I try to get to bed earlier and stay up when my son gets up but 6:50 is really early when you work second shift so I fail at it all the time, but i still try. The older i get the more goofy I am when I don't get good sleep.
We need more research & info on how effective anti-oxidants really are on this! Would be awesome to be able to function on & not feel tired on less sleep
you know for years i craved antioxidants and ate a huge amount of them. like really huge. it later turned out i have an actual biological sleep disorder. as i get older the damage is still ripping apart my brain and internal organs no matter how much antioxidants. if you are young and healthy i think antioxidants will be good for anyone. esp with this. however sleep loss is cumulative, and as the video rightly says, it will kill you if it goes on too long. and too long is actually way shorter than ppl think.
Additionally, the feeling of being tired doesn’t go away. Anti-oxidants are just neutralizing the cause of death here. Feeling tired is a mechanism in the brain triggered by the build up of some waste which gets produced as we think (I believe the molecule was glutamate?). This is not affected by antioxidants.
You headed off my question at the end, I was wondering how ROS in the stomach would cause death. As always great science educational output. Needed more than ever these days. Thank you team SciShoq!
Changing your sleeping habits for the better is really one of the best things you can do in life, I feel actually happy, not just neutral, and alive somehow! I would venture the path to happiness starts with sleep
I've had depression and sleep deprivation for many years, now in my 60s. I can't sleep more than 4-5 hours and just pop awake suddenly no matter how tired I am. Then, by early evening, I can hardly keep my eyes open. It creates even more stress and sleeplessness, not to mention loneliness in the middle of the night.
Sounds like an out of sync sleep cycle. Try to research "circadian entrainment". Also you might have some Mediterranean dna that needs a quick nap in the middle of the day. Take care of yourself.
I’m also in my 60’s and for a decade now have trouble sleeping. I wake up with a jolt 3 to 6 times a night and don’t remember any dreams. Very tired between 5-10 then wide awake. I make myself physically exhausted to be able to sleep then my body hurts the following day. When I tell my doctor,she wants to prescribe pills. No no no not adding to the anxiety. Doing more research now. All the best to you 🌺
@@lovely-mk4rt Yall should investigate bio-feedback. Lower brain waves from beta -> alpha - > theta -> delta. Sounds like you can't get/stay out of the higher levels.
That really sucks. Honestly there probably isn't a ton you can do that I am assuming you haven't already tried. I am wondering though can you fall asleep again after reawaking. If you are retired try sleeping 5 hours, spending a few hours awake, and sleeping again
That first couple of minutes sounded like my first 18 to 24 months with my new born daughter. 😂 my brain was turning to oatmeal. But we both survived. 🤗
During the workweek, I sleep 5-6 hours on average, occasionally 7. I think I'm someone who needs closer to at least 9 to feel ok. I just can't live my life doing nothing but working and sleeping 5 days straight, I stay up to do ANYTHING enjoyable. Pretty sure I just have constant sleep deprivation and my mood worsens every day til I sleep in on my days off
my best mate once got addicted to cocaine and stayed awake for 3 weeks while still going to work all becuase he was coced out of his mind the whole time
Honestly when i dont sleep for a long time i dont feel like eating. My fight or flight keeps going off saying im npt sleeping for a reason. I get really nauseated and eating is so much energy.
Recently went through a near death experience with bronchitis and pneumonia. My oxygen levels were dropping constantly and I was in and out of the hospital. Everytime I’d try to fall asleep, I’d wake up immediately gasping for air. For a solid week I couldn’t breathe. For a solid week I didn’t sleep. Auditory hallucinations first after 3 days. Then came the hysteria and visual hallucinations. My husband took me to the hospital 3 times in a week. I’m recovering now but seriously one of the worst things I’ve ever gone through. As bad it was not being able to draw air, properly…the lack of sleep made everything so intense that I was literally losing my mind.
I once went 13 days without sleeping. My trick was to keep my body awake by doing HIIT/ calisthenics and drinking cold water every 15 minutes, just enough exercise to get the heart pumping and a little more than a gallon of water per day. With this routine I really didn't feel much need for sleep at all except for those few moments as I approached 15 minutes, where it felt like my body was about to make a choice, go to sleep or stay awake. I should say that I was 17 at the time. I went to sleep on that final day, having not made it to 2 weeks but not actually trying to, just because I finally felt like it when I really hadn't all those 13 days prior. It was also after having a really heavy, fatty meal
@@corndo9 I just wanted some more free time for my hobbies. 13 days was the longest I'd ever done it but I wasn't forcing myself. The moment I felt that I wanted to stop, I stopped. From age 11 to age 22, I would regularly go 3 days without sleeping and then sleep for a total of 4h before beginning the cycle again. I noticed that after about 48h, all want and need for sleep seemingly disappears like a veil is lifted in my mind. There were no outward physical defects that resulted from this; I was rather tall, muscular and good looking for my ethnicity, and I was brimming with enthusiastic energy and attention. However, there were some negative cognitive effects. Shortly after I began I discovered myself having difficulty recalling something that I actually wanted to remember for seemingly the very first time. I also started having difficulty remembering words, from once a month to once a week to once a day, and the feeling changed from the word being at the tip of my tongue, to the middle of the tongue, to the back of my tongue, to feeling like there's an empty space in my mind where the info should be, to not even perceiving an empty space where it should be. The time to recall went from milliseconds to seconds to minutes to hours to days to weeks... And then halfway through, I developed severe depression, anxiety and anhedonia, but those symptoms in particular coincided with a wrongful administration of a powerful broad spectrum antibiotic. I'd developed a cough due to detergent buildup due to the fact that our home had hard water, and the depression, anxiety, anhedonia and personality changes lasted for years but reversed after I was given some more antibiotics and live probiotics for a gut problem I later developed, which was after my family was given some contaminated food and I allowed myself to eat it. The depression et al continued until long after I quit my altered sleep schedule. I had originally been inspired by great thinkers of the past who allegedly pursued similar means of extending their useful life. I no longer remember who aside from Edison, da vinci and at least one of the Greek philosophers... It seemed to work for more than 5 years, aside from the sudden inability to recall random words.
@@zer0nix yeah, i don't think you realize how in fact difficult it is at a teen age - a time in life which requires the most sleep apart from toddlers - to stay awake by one's own will for more than 3 entire days and nights, never mind almost 2 weeks, as you decided to spin your yarn... what you're claiming makes absolutely no reasonable sense nor has any credibility with anyone who actually either has acute chronic insomnia or is a medical or science specialist in studying this field... and unless you're either an actual comic book superhero, did a ton of meth or crack during that timeframe, are suffering from a very rare genetic fatal insomnia syndrom which allows for such sleep deprivation periods but results in premature death, or it was induced outside of your control due to some ultra quirky glitch in your brain you're either a troll just trying to get a reaction or you have a habit of stating lies because of some mental disorder... i have already seen a few other bogus improbable claims in this comment section but decided to ignore it but yours is just so out there it's ludicrous...
Yes that is due to a disease process that is fatal. We can’t compare a disease state that happens to overlap with sleep, with what the normal body will experience im sleep deprived conditions. Like comparing a purposefully made 3 wheeled truck with a 4 wheeled truck that lost a wheel. They both have 3 wheels, but the impact on the truck and its fundamental build are different.
To answer your question, yes. This is called fatal familial insomnia. The first 7 months after onset result in very vivid dreams and sporadic sleep, followed by about 3 months of complete lack of sleep, and then up to 6 months of severe cognitive decline or a coma before resulting in death
Interesting study. As someone who has dealt with fragmented sleep and insomnia for extended periods of my life, at least I can switch up my diet to include a lot more anti-oxidants and see if that helps avert at least some of the ill effects I typically endure
Me watching this instead of sleeping
@@ericmorris1409no
Me too. That's crazy.
3:00AM Here.
I don't know why, but when I'm about to get some kind of sickness, or in very close situations, my insomnia often temporary get worse.
And I just get flu and COVID vaccine shots yesterday, and those may cause similar effect. TwT
The Prioritist
Hope you feel better!
My son, who has autism, suddenly stopped sleeping. We didn’t catch on at first because he would lay silently in his bed. Then he started having delusions so to the hospital we went. Then a catatonic state. Drugs got him a few precious hours but over the following week he was hospitalized we struggled to get an hour or two here and there. This was with trying all sorts of things. His neurologist finally said that if he didn’t improve in the next 24 hours they would have to put him in an induced coma. Bit by bit we avoided it and finally brought him home at 4-5 hours. He had lost almost all of his speech and his sensory processing system had imploded. That was in 2018. He slowly improved, with some reoccurring episodes. His speech has never quite been the same but thank god his personality has returned. We still have to hit him with a lot of drugs to get him to sleep and keep him there. We continue to monitor his sleep through various sensing devices and security cameras. There’s a hierarchy of bigger drugs which he needs from time to time.
It was the most terrifying thing his Dad and I have ever been through and we live with it hanging over our heads. Don’t underestimate sleep loss.
You poor things! You must be exhausted and worried sick. I hope everything goes to whatever "normal" will be for him soon. (We all have our own normal for everything.)
My daughter could empathise with you, but fortunately not to such an extreme degree. Her 11 year-old (also an Aspie) has been on melatonin for ages. They give her "breaks" from it during school holidays but school nights are sacrosanct. Fortunately, they moved to a bigger house recently, and she now has her own room. She's no longer disturbing her 5 year-old sister - and vice versa. They _think_ the older daughter is sleeping better, but it's hard to tell. The fact that she sleeps pretty well without meds when she stays with us might show that being alone helps. During bad times they brought her the 150 miles for a few days with us so they can get some sleep!
Oddly enough, my daughter didn't sleep through the night until she turned 5. She's now 32 and I'm still an insomniac from back then! Today I've had about 30 minutes sleep (it's just after 7am) overnight and had had a post-dinner "pass out" (it just happens) for about 2 hours in the evening. I rarely get more than 3-4 hours in 24, in small naps. (It's not just because of the habitual insomnia, for which I take a crap ton of meds, I'm physically disabled and in chronic pain. That wakes me too.) It's not a fun thing for anyone involved with an insomniac, let alone the sufferer of it.
(Edit: just wanted to add that my daughter isn't on the spectrum but my younger son - nearly 30, and living with us - is. He never had a sleep problem even as a baby. Getting him up has always been his - or rather my! - problem! 😅)
All the best, I truly hope he recovers some regularity in his sleep pattern soon, and the same will apply to you. Don't underestimate the negative effects it has on you as well as him. Love can be a real kicker at times! 🫂
that's a really interesting case! did the doctors mention any specific diagnosis/conditions?
Was it Cotard - Kidney+Acyclovir ?
Asking as someone who will lay in bed all night and not sleep, but can sleep standing up during the day. Is he able to sleep during the day at all? I've got so many sleep problems, but I can usually still sleep for a while during the day, but not always. Gotten worse in my adult years, but hey antioxidants might help.
Was he on any medications when it started? I have ADHF and growing up I had to take my Adderall before 8am or I wouldn't fall asleep
“Researchers turned to rats”. That sounds a really interesting effect of sleep deprivation.
That’s why Peter Pettigrew looked so sleep deprived!
😂
That’s what happens to people who experiment on puppies until they die.
The fate of all sleep deprivation researchers.
Does that mean they all turned into snitches? 🤣
The longest I've gone without sleep was 5 days, it was during army training. On day 4 I was seeing giants walking across the landscape, by day 5 I couldn't tell who was a real person or an object. Some people never fully recover after a 5 day streak.
I can't imagine what 18 days does to you.
I did 8 days on an acid bender once. No real visuals besides what you'd already get from acid. However, I can't imagine 18 days. I was still full of LSD when I finally went to sleep on day 8. At that point, I was eating a 5-strip at a time, 3 or 4 times a day just to keep going. My body just shut down and said "screw you, you're sleeping". I was out like a light for 17 hours.
The longest I've ever been awake was 36 hours when I was about 19 years old. Then I sat down, to "work", and fell asleep.
Worked on call as a surgery resident for 38 hours straight
The longest i went without sleep was from the first day i banged a 7 gram rock until now
@@michaeltorrisi7289 bro put the LSD down, it's not good for you. Crack is the real way to go
The concept of health in "The 23 Former Doctor Truths" book completely explains this. I wish I read it sooner.
Thanks for sharing that im checking it out right now
thank you!
Thats the one by Lauren Clark right!
Bots for botting that bot! I'm botting it out right now!
@@ancientapparition1638 lol even the website says it was banned on amazon
I can see the headlines now: “New GROUNDBREAKING study on sleep: try this one weird diet trick and you can stay awake FOREVER”
"You can stay awake for the rest of your life with antioxidants!"
Rest of your life: 20 days
@@PainSled lol 😆.
Did you pay attention? The flies regained their life span@@PainSled
@@Casualweeb475 But the flies only live between 20 and 40 days anyway.
@@Casualweeb475 Yes. But most of us aren't fruit flies, and can't stay awake for 25-50% of our total life time, continuously, to begin with.
It might give us 20 more days. It might remove all negative side effects. Or it might do nothing at all.
Unfortunately, I was literally taught, “you can sleep when you’re dead.”
Now, research appears to show that this statement is actually a self-fulfilling prophecy. (Be careful who you listen to, I guess…)
Yeah some of my family says the same thing. They wonder why I visit so rarely 😂
That's bananas.
Same. I was taught that taking a nap when entirely exhausted was lazy.
When I was young I used to say that sleep is for people who have nothing better to do. How I regret that.
@@Whaat--Now toxic asf mentality
I am so lucky right now, I was getting 5ish hours of sleep for 2 years and working a job I hated, 2 whole hours commuting (I could have been fricken SLEEEPNG DURING THAT TIME 😢)
But now I’m doing science education in my city, getting paid more, getting 8 hours of sleep per night, going to the gym, and no more daily commute!!! So much better…. Get your sleep people! And remember- your corporate job DOESNT need you. You need a job, but you shouldn’t sacrifice your health and mental state for a “decent” paycheck…
Glad you made it
Absolutely 👏 for reals! ❤
Most people don't really need 8 hours. I spent 1 month sleeping without setting an alarm and timing how long i slept, i averaged out on 7 hours 20 minutes. Saving 40 minutes each day makes me able to enjoy ten additional whole days per year.
@ yeah I probably sleep something like 9 hrs tbh
I'm glad you're sleeping and in a better situation than before!
Also, I think it's cool that you got into science education as a career. May I know about your process of getting into that career?
Once I found out how lack of sleep gives you permanent brain damage, I decided there is NOTHING in this world as important as a good sleep. The exams can be retaken, relationships can resolved, catastrophes are none of my business.
Brain damage? Oh no 😭 it's 4am and I haven't slept yet
@@yourboy_BillCipherIt's miniscule brain damage that accumulates over time and even then any symptom will show up as early onset dementia as you get old. As a youngster partying or gaming till 4am you have nothing to worry about as long as you get enough sleep later on.
@@tomaccino ty for the reassurance! I never felt tired despite sleep deprivation until now, bc I felt so drained for the last 3 weeks (exam season 😔)
@@tomaccino soo lets say you worked/partied 16 hours a day... or even 20 (overkill) for straight 3 months, how do you rejuvenate that? When the damage to your body has been done, stress + lack of sleep can make your hair turn sligtly white in your early 20s
What he is saying is that the cells that got damaged would have already died, got replaced long ago when you were young
I used to work a job that had we switching my sleep schedule every 2 weeks, a full 12 hour flip, from 6AM-4 changing to 5PM-3.
After a year my health was completely destroyed. Schedules like this should be full on illegal. I allowed a corporation to place profit above my health and the health of my team, and I have regretted it in the decade since, as I have never fully recovered my ability to sleep well. We can't continue to structure capital as the pinnacle of what our society works for, it will ruin us all.
That's not "capital" you fool. Some companies need to function 24 hrs and need those schedules. I'm sure you won't mind working the graveyard shift for the rest of your life correct?
in the military i worked a schedule of 4 days on 4 days off, they were 12 hour posts but i had to arrive an hour and a half before post to arm up and do a formation and sometimes getting relieved could take an hour after i was supposed to be finished, so 14ish hours a day. someone who worked a 9-5 office job got a stick up their ass about us having 4 days off in a row so the 4th day became mandatory training day. i worked the night shift. so one day we're showing up for training at 0700 and getting released around 1630, while the next day we had to be arriving to work at 1630 and getting released around 0700. it's been 15 years and i have still never recovered, my mind and body have just been turning to mush ever since
@@captnwinkle"you fool" reeks of neckbeard. Our current sleep schedules weren't even adopted until after the industrial revolution. Some companies need those schedules but having dedicated night shifts instead of switching all the time would benefit productivity more if you knew anything. The only issue was profit therefore OP's health was placed below profit as he said. These companies are meant to service the populace as a whole it was one of the driving ideas behind capitalism beyond personal wealth. If you lose sight and let companies take control then they're genuinely no better than a despot controlled government
we had similar shift work stateside but Panama schedule 2-2-3-2-2-3. Somehow always had ranges and mandatory trainings during our sleep time or days off. And had to take leave to have any holidays while office crew just did 3 or 4 day passes practically every federal holiday. Shift work… never again if I can afford it. I don’t even want to be on call. Sleep is too important… he types in the comments at 3:30am on Friday. Whoops.
Oh, hey its What every Depressive insomniac with anxiety loves to hear.
I resemble that remark!
the more I tell myself to sleep,
the more I tell myself to sleep...
the more I tell myself to sleep 🥲
Well, not all of it... But the part where you can probably negate some of the bad side effects by eating some blueberries does seem hopeful.
I feel very attacked!
Now I'm anxious I have brain damage considering I had sleep problems since childhood 😔
I remember learning about the brain's waste disposal system a while back and love that it is literally brain washing.
This isn't even related to your comment but I saw that having 24h sleep deprivation is like having .4 alcohol in your bloodstream or smth, I'm probably skewing this fact bc I forgot it but basically it's over the legal limit when driving
@@yourboy_BillCipher I certainly would not get behind the wheel after 24h without sleeping
@@yourboy_BillCipher I haven't really experienced 24hr sleep deprivation, but i've definitely had a period where my sleep was so poor and heavily interrupted that i basically practically up in that state. my thoughts were coherent, but i could hear myself talking so slowly and i felt heavy it was awful lol. it's not quite like being drunk, but you are definitely slow and weak and i would not drive if i felt like that.
heheh put that noggin on 40°C synthetic 🧠✨
Yeah that Why We Sleep book was good
I stayed awake for 3 days, and let me tell you the once I hit 65+ hours I was definitely seeing weird (and kind of scary) things. Then when I was finally able to try to sleep, I had a real hard time falling asleep. And there were no stimulant drugs involved.
Around 3 days up for me too, plus 1 or 2 hours a night for a few nights prior (I was extremely stressed). I eventually got to the point where I couldn't recognize my shadow and ended up hypervenitllating in a corner because I thought I was being chased and couldn’t figure out how my pursuer kept finding me.
@idonthaveausername.8035 plants were turning into wolf like demons. And when I closed my eyes all I could see was a baby's head in a cowboy hat... And it was terrifying for some reason!
36hrs is where things start to get weird and stay weird for about 12hrs. You then get about half a day or relative normality before the serious visual, auditory, olfactory and tactile hallucinations.
3 days is probably the suckiest amount of time to go without sleep. After that it's absolutely insane and your body "usually" becomes exhausted and simply shuts down at some point.
I sorta spiraled between sleepless nights and passing out and sleeping for days at a time not too long after I moved out for college due to some psych stuff in my life. My longest run was 7 days. By 3 days, I was on the edge of hallucinations, like seeing "things" out of the corners of my eyes and hearing artifacts of other sounds. By day 4 it was full blown living in a hallucination. Like putting on glasses and seeing cartoony sometimes almost horror living anime like vision. It was pretty screwed up. Fun, but screwed up
@Psikeomega that had to be rough!
I was severely sleep deprived once. I had pneumonia after having H1N1. Before I was diagnosed I was up for 3 days straight because I couldn’t stop coughing. I’m telling you every exhale was a cough. I was hallucinating and I could not function at all. My boyfriend told me I was speaking literally gibberish. I don’t remember parts of it either. Finally I went to UC and diagnosed with pneumonia. I started antibiotics and recovered quickly.
I feel you on the hallucination. I was sleep deprived with my first child as a newborn. It was like I was awake but not really there, like dreaming while being awake
In the military we sometimes have minor sleep deprivation. It’s very common for sleep deprived soldiers to hallucinate especially at night. I saw weird shapes shifting in my vision and weird shadows. My friends saw whole animals and trees.
Shifting between dimensions
Is this why I see random flashes of things in the corner of my eyes sometimes? I'm a bit more than mildly paranoid so I'm glad I haven't experienced actual hallucinations, I feel like if I did I'd never be the same
The shadows sound like they might also be comorbid with sleep apnea.
When I have minor sleep deprivation I just hear super faint auditory hallucinations. They usually don't even sound real- it usually feels more like something is forcibly thinking about noises in my head for me, rather than like I'm actually hearing a noise.
11:50 remember kids a "lethal dose" is also a "lifetime supply"!
i wish i could give awards on youtube like you can on reddit😂😭
This comment hands-down wins this entire comment section
Remember kids, a gram of uranium has about a billion calories! You could eat one gram and not have to eat for the rest of your life!
(On an unrelated passing tangential side note, you would die if you ate a gram of uranium.)
@@bb_ghosty I was thinking the same thing 🤣
😂
One of the ways my mother abused us was by purposefully depriving us of sleep, especially on school nights. She'd come up with random ass things to keep us awake to one or two in the morning, when we had the bus at like six or seven. It wasn't until I was an adult on my own that I realized how much that affected me, just as much as the gas lighting and beatings, maybe more to some extent. It had a big impact on my grades, my ability to have energy for anything outside of her, my emotions, my cognitive functions, everything.
good luck and be well on your recovery 🌌
I'm so sorry for you guys. I hope you fully recover.
Bro that women doesn't deserve to be called mother. She's your birth giver lol.
I can surely empathize. :( Some people should never have custody of children.
Omg I’m so sorry 😞 I hope you’re healing and living well now.
I was chronically sleep deprived for several years due to late night work, traveling and bad habits generally. It all led up to an especially bad bout of insomnia that was aggravated by a case of Acid Reflux which is something I had never had problems with before. The Acid Reflux messed up my sleep even worse and that in turn seemed to lead to worsening gut symptoms. I eventually had to take time off from work and radically change my diet and sleep pattern and was diagnosed with a bad case of gastritis. In retrospect it really seemed like my terrible sleep habits set off the gastritis but it was hard to find really reliable info explaining the connection. But this video seems to show a solid connection
I’ll second that. Had similar problems after an extremely long time with no sleep. Took 18 months for my gut to recover.
Wait, I've been having sleep deprivation for months, how many more until this happens? 😭 I still feel just as energetic as I would normally, albeit my eyes feel a bit groggy but I dont actually feel tired or anything. O remember feeling utterly relaxed after 1 hour of sleep once
@@yourboy_BillCipher Its different for everyone. Like I said I was sleep deprived for years and I thought I was just fine until suddenly I definitely wasnt.
@@scottabc72 around how long did it take you from feeling fine til you crashed out?
Could you please elaborate on how acid reflux messed up your sleep? I have acid reflux at night and sleep problems and i think there may be a connection. 😩What were your symptoms in regards to acid reflux and bad sleep?
That explains all the stomach issues Ive had every time I go to work early. Thanks.
I have had times where I was so sleep deprived that I got home, tried to eat something, and threw it up within 10 minutes. Then I just went to bed. I felt awful pretty much the whole day before that happened.
i'm literally pulling an allnighter right now. my teachers decided 4 big projects all due at similar times was a great idea. i don't think the education system even cares about us anymore.
And even with an education you can't get a job anymore. Degrees are useless now. (first they were optional, another way to get a job vs experience after they weren't mandatory. Then the next shoe dropped and people with degrees are stuck asking "Do you want fries with that?")
@@franklofarojr.2969Totally wrong. It’s what you study and the field you are trying to break into.
Did you have to start these projects at the same time? Or was one of them available earlier?
"Anymore"? Are you implying they ever did care about us? 💀
In light if this information, maybe we should do something about society's work demands.
And access to healthy food for everyone.
@@SageGarlandSingerSongwriter Its like were going full circle and the liars are taking over society and killing anyone else, since most of this was all known 1950's and then coutner culture, just wait they will bring back posture and books on your head, lol for training.. again, whislt accusing people.. trash olympics.
@@HermanVonPetriyeah because its trumps fault you have to wake up at 8 lol
Oh no, 8hrs a day is killing you. Grow up…
It's not society that demands work. It's life.
Society just obeys the demand, for it has no other option.
..........The irony that this is the video published after I am pulling an allnighter for the 3rd time for my exam tomorrow, is this a sign?
It's a trap!
take some antioxidant.....?
Change habits lol. Seriously tho, things aren’t gonna magically change post grad & e we all should be scared of when the body tells you to stop something rather than your will
I swear these phones are watching us
Unironically, it's better to go into an exam without studying than to stay up all night trying to make up for it.
What I'm hearing is "you'll sleep when you're dead" should be considered a threat. 😂
Because it is
I used to say I'll sleep when I am dead when I was young. I could skip a day in a week. Now I need my sleep.
@@shawn13mertle13 at what age do you actually need sleep? Bc as a teen I've been functioning just fine being sleep deprived for months 😭
@@yourboy_BillCipher It depends on how much deprivation and how often, but it'll hit you like a brick when it does. I used to run on like 2-3 hours plus micro-naps for all of highschool. Years later, I still struggle with staying awake. If my head is remotely horizontal I immediately fall asleep, it's awfully inconvenient.
You really should try to get a decent sleep as often as you can.
@@manuele.floresc ah okay, ty, I'll probably try to diagnose insomnia or smth and ask for help on how to sleep 😭
5:46 to skip the shillshare
Thanks but hard to find this comment. However, a couple of right arrows will do as well. The voice-over is quite different and easily recognisable
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@@DanielMYTme when I'm on phone😔
Can we give scishow big props for classy clickbait? Like, even if the thumbnail doesn’t entice me to watch, it’s still leaves me with the *right idea*.
Career trucker- oh yeah sleep deprivation I’m intimately aware of for the immediate and long term effects. Add not being able to have any regular sleep hours for a proper circadian rhythm. In just 10 years my general health and a few acute problems have come out of nowhere mostly physical but also mentally. It’s just super hard on a human.
Oh no, I need to fix my sleep before I'm 25 then 😭
@@yourboy_BillCipherme 28 and sleep deprived for the last 7 years. I am fine, in fact i do not care about sleeping at this point.
Having sleep disorders sucks. And basically, if you're neurodivergent or stressed or just unlucky, you got them.
Our entire economic system of needing to work and have a life and then also needing 8 hours of sleep, which takes time to actually get ready for sleep and fall asleep and not everyone's circadian rhythms are on 24 hours like we assume, it sets most people up for failure with sleep, both in quality and longevity.
Honestly, it sucks to hear. Lots of us don't get good quality sleep and/or enough sleep and it's stressful to think about, which makes it harder to sleep.
I'm neurodivergent and have a small baby so it is good to know I dont just feel like Im dying, I'm literally dying, lol
Getting anxious about sleeping preventing sleeping is the ouroboros of my life
During quarantine I discovered that my circadian rhythm is just over 24h. It was interesting finding myself go from being nocturnal to being an early riser
it was easier to change after knowing how important ot was 😅
Same
When I had my son, I was so sleep deprived during his first year, I literally felt I was going to die. All the family members, who promised me to help with the baby, including my husband, never did. That's why I'll never have anymore children.
Drama queen
@@Azmat-r6cignorant
I'm hoping you mean ex husband
As someone who'll never have a kid, I can tell having children is so difficult. I feel bad for my parents 😭
@Azmat-r6c it's hardly dramatic. It's not just feeling a bit tired. Extreme fatigue is no joke, on top of having to work, look after a baby and do the usual things about the house.
Just got done with summer road construction season in Wisconsin. Definitely explains why i struggle so bad 😂😂 6 months with 50-75% normal sleep and normally lower quality, doesnt let you recover from 12-14 hours of physical labor a day
Amazing how we can clearly see how unethical the experiments were when done to puppy’s but they’re ok when done to rats
yes, 'cause puppies are cute and rats are weird and filthy (except the lab rats)
> puppies give us youtube videos
> rats give us leptospirosis and the black death
so, naturally, rats get less empathy
Yep crazy
If anything, rats are more intelligent than a dog at that age, if not in general.
@@soniccd9983 does this mean we value intelligent creatures more than less intelligent ones?
@@birthdayzrock1426 yes, obviously.
As a mom of an autistic four year old who still sleeps like a newborn I’ve gotten 4-5 hours of sleep for YEARS. And it’s killing me. Slowly….
I went through the same thing with my kiddo with autism. She started sleeping through the night around 5 or 6. In the meantime, be kind to yourself. You are a super parent.
As a former child who also has autism, I hope I can help you at least a little. I used to struggle with sleeping a LOT as a kid, and from my experience I see two methods of dealing with this issue:
1. As alphalupin already alluded to, just give it time; your kid may eventually learn how to sleep through the night. Be kind to yourself, take naps throughout the day (if you can), and - the most important thing - _talk to your pediatrician;_ tell them about your kid's sleeplessness (so at least it can be documented), and work with them to find a way to help your kid fall asleep easier.
2. If #1 fails to work, then your kid might be like me; my brain just would not shut off no matter what I or my parents did, it would take 2+ hours to fall asleep, and it was _incredibly_ difficult to stay asleep! In this scenario, you _must_ try all other alternatives, _and_ have your kid's sleeplessness documented -- at which point, *_talk to your pediatrician about getting your kid on sleep meds._* Most doctors do not want to jump to medicate kids unless you've exhausted all other options first, and I agree with this philosophy; however, to this day, I _physically_ cannot sleep _unless_ I take my sleep meds (trazodone, if you're curious), and my life would have been _so much better_ if I had access to sleep meds earlier.
My parents didn't bother working with my pediatrician (well, technically I didn't have a pediatrician -- just our family med doc), and since they didn't raise the issue with my doc she didn't think my sleep issues were that big of a deal. It took until I was _22_ before the doc was like "okay, you keep complaining about this, so lets finally take this issue seriously." It took until I was _22_ to finally start sleeping through the night. Please don't be like my parents. Be kind to yourself, but _please_ work with your pediatrician so your kid doesn't go through life with inadequate sleep like me.
I feel for you and my parents. As an autistic adult, when I was 6 I saw a scary black and white movie, ('The Beast with Five Fingers'). Had nightmares/night terrors 3-4 times a week... for 6 years. Don't think I really shared much of that with them at the time. Probably once. After they blow you off for it just being a dream, you just accept that's what your life is like now. I sleep few hours a night even now. I am retired and am up every few hours. Up. Pacing. Doing chores. Thinking. I no longer try to keep up with how much I have slept.
Maybe look into medication? Could help.
My friend had this problem. Her husband human proofed the room even boarded the window and installed a Dutch door(half door) as he was 6 and a baby gate ain't nothing but a hazard
I've always had digestive issues whenever I miss a night of sleep...
Same here. It's only recently I've noticed a correlation between staying awake for 24hrs+ and getting diarrhoea. This video is great for explaining why.
Same. And high acidity and bloating
Whatd you guys do to fix a sleep schedule?
@@yourboy_BillCipher Short answer: I didn't.
Long answer: Don't have caffeine in my usual diet so it's more effective when I do have it. Then I use cola or an energy drink to keep myself awake long enough to fall asleep the next night.
@@yourboy_BillCipher Looks simple but it's HARD - but turning off the phone or any screen HOURS before sleeping. 2-3 hours work for me.
The irony to me that i listen to SciShow to sleep 😴 I love listening to you guys talk, it brings me so much comfort 💕
ASMR!
I get it. I'm a nerd who falls asleep to military analysis.
@@jul1440 I fall asleep to nothing... (I will crush my headphones if I sleep with them in, I also sleep in a room with other people ALSO trying to sleep so using a speaker is a no go)
Actually, wait... I fall asleep to something- my tinnitus ringing in my ear at 13.5KHz... LOVELY thing to hear when you're trying to sleep.
@@alexandermcclure6185damn you even have the exact frequency, crazy
That sponsor segment hit me like a freight train. Never thought I'd be asking for a segue, but I almost thought the video was over
Yeah I actually almost LEFT, which would have been worse for their algo than if I had stayed and plugged 2x speed or skipped ahead. Though my commenting rn just negated their non cut-to add, per engagement algo.
But yeah no this is 2 times now that I prematurely closed their vid
Same here.
same here.
I prefer them using a different person for their sponsor.
I don't like the person who is informing me of something breaking off and trying to sell me something.
Maybe I prefer it and am user to it because I grew up when there was cable and commercials.
Spon sore bloc is awesome
RUclips just recommended this video to me. Scary coincidence because I haven’t actually slept last night for almost 26 hours now because I wanted to fix my sleep schedule. Won’t be sleeping till tonight (10 more hours) 💀
Hope this video made you give up
That ain't called fixing a sleep schedule maye
@@Temperiusmy friend used to do smth where she'd stay up all night then on the next day she'd sleep at her desired time, worked like a charm (tho I wouldn't recommend this method)
@@yourboy_BillCipher For people who suffer with insomnia, that is often the only way. For me, it's absolutely impossible to fall asleep without being up for at least 15 hours, no matter how much I exercise during the day and no matter what bed time routine I do. And then, due to taking hours to fall asleep anyway, my wake up time keeps getting pushed forwards. If only I could just fall asleep in under 10 seconds like my dad.
I can totally relate to that way of fixing a sleep schedule although I am slowly getting used to it and even after 30+ hours without sleep I still manage to stay awake until my usual time when I go to bed, which is after 3AM.
While I find scishow generally quite accurate for the most part, this episode was quite misleading. This was talking about a single study in fruit flies and implying that it's the same mechinism as death from sleep deprivation in humans or other animals. We have data from sleep deprivation deaths in mammals, and the causes of death have been attributed to systemic infection from cell breakdown and insufficient waste clearance, causing sepsis and death. Neurofunctional decline in the hypothalamus, resulting in dysfunctional body temperature control, leading to hypothermia and death. For Scishow to not mention the already well known causes of death in sleep deprived rodents and to focus on the one-off finding of ROS in fruitfly guts that's still being studied and then declaring that its the sole cause of death from sleep deprivation when we have evidence to the contary feels a little misleading to me.
I didn't really get that they were declaring one cause as THE cause in this one. This struck me as a general review of the experimental history. 🤷♂️ But I'm an enthusiast, not an expert, so that's very much a layman takeaway.
I can see how the lay person can be misinformed here, I can see how the amateur could learn something cool here and already know not to believe everything they hear, and how the expert isn’t watching YT for this content
Dunning -Krueger doing a lot of heavy lifting these days 😂. POA enjoy the ride and be good to people. You’re not wrong about how they give the vibe of knowledge but an expert would tear it all apart. It’s entertainment not a research paper 😅 I learned something new ✌️and am motivated slightly to sleep more
Another piece of the puzzle is that sepsis mirrors deaths due to cytokine storm
Exactly what I thought, just one paper on hard sleep deprivation. And the other, just a harsher version done on mammals. Not exactly key to showing what is realistically considered “sleep deprivation” in an average person’s daily lives.
Thanks for the additional info, can you maybe indicate some references to these other studies?
There's a difference between low energy and needing to sleep. That explains a lot seeming paradoxes in desire and energy transfer in sleep
Imagine if ROS _is_ linked to IBS.
ROS accumulates > IBS flares worsen > Nightly bathroom frequency rises > Sleep time plummets > ROS accumulates….
Then diet is doubly important to prevent flare-ups.
I like how you think!
WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE WHAT DOWN
IBS does have a lot of comorbidities with neurological things
And sleep apnea...
That's probably why your poop smells so bad!
This is good to know. Not only do I have both types of sleep apnea, but I have a big problem of prioritizing stimulation like games or videos over sleep. It worries me about my health down the road, so a little something to help with that is probably something I should consider.
Important to note that Guinness is more a novelty than an actual record. They require very little in the way of proof and _you_ have to pay for their "judges" to come and witness your record. Meaning they have a vested interest in awarding people just for the attempt most of the time. They definitely do not deserve the notoriety that they have.
So I'm still not convinced that the record for no sleep really is 18+ days. You die from Fatal Insomnia within two weeks. So that "record" is way beyond sus.
The same argument is easily made for dying within two weeks. Recorded incidents that can be directly linked are novel and thus, the exception.
They also say you die after 3 days of no water, but I survived after 7 without even touching a drop of water, and the world record is 18 days.
They probably just say you die in 2 weeks of no sleep so nobody tries it; same with the 3 day water thing.
Outliers are a thing.
your stomach is basically a sea cucumber, making us just elaborate mechanisms that sea cucumbers use to feed themselves.
Yes, in fact, the stomach & intestines are on OUTSIDE of the body, think about it. That's why Covid etc. could have severe digestive symptoms
Uh.. as a scholar in all subjects, I can say that it was Not even close. You might think of a sea cucumber as a walking, barebones stomach, but it’s far from equivalent to a human’s. Sea cucumbers consume sediment from the ocean floor, and their simpler digestive system is designed to sift out nutrients from this sediment, not to process complex foods. In contrast, the human stomach produces hydrochloric acid and various enzymes to break down proteins, carbohydrates, and fats.
So, while there's a tiny overlap in purpose (both are a sack that process food internally), the systems aren’t closely comparable.
@@smurfydayHmm you may got some confusion goin on, it may come from the fact that the digestive tract has an "external environment" exposure at both ends (mouth and anus), but that doesn’t make it “outside” the body. It’s more accurate to say that the digestive tract is a closed system inside the body that processes external substances (food and drink).
As for COVID-19 causing digestive symptoms, this is due to the virus’s ability to infect cells lining the gut. Many viruses and bacteria can affect different organ systems, but this has nothing to do with the digestive system being “outside” the body. So, that claim is misleading and scientifically incorrect.
@@MaseraSteve
Ummmmmm......you assume people don't eat sediment?
@@AzyrealLalOh.. That's TLC content right there 😂 . Seriously I got this clip of the native Chinese on their rural areas like a village or something. They are boiling and ate it as soup out of desperation since 1920's famine but your body gets none of the nutrients though
I really enjoy the format of this video, well done SciShow team!
The glynphatic system is quite a recent discovery. We used to think we’d finished A & P but turns out we hadn’t. Essentially we give ourselves instant fatal dementia by not sleeping and allowing this system to take out the rubbish at night.
I know very little about biology but I can't say I'm surprised, I've been an insomniac (and now also have epilepsy) for a LONG time and my memory is a mess and my hands often tremble, although tbf that's made worse by my different meds. I'm convinced I'm going to get Alzheimer's or dementia when I'm old, even more so as my grandmother had dementia before she passed away so it's also in my family too. My mum is an insomniac as well (although not epileptic) and she has a pretty bad memory and her hands tremble a lot like me and it was her mum who had dementia so I really hope my mum doesn't go through that too because it was sad enough seeing my gran go through it
@@teethgrinder83neurological disorders & deterioration can happen a lot sooner than most people believe! I used to assume (naively) that such problems only happened when you get to 80 or more
I thought I didn't sleep for nearly 7 days when my kidneys were failing after a coma.
Turns out I was micro napping. I didn't know it till like the 5th day when one roommate in the hospital said the coma got me good, because I would stop talking mid conversation for a minute or two. Then continue talking like nothing happened.
I didn't realize that. I had him as a roommate for four days, and we talked a lot.
So I am curious how people stay up longer without drugs.
what are you supposed to do if you never sleep? Doctors don't care
@@dianapennepacker6854 yeah I sometimes micro-sleep when I'm not able to sleep but when I had the worst run of no sleeping I definitely didn't sleep at all. After the neurologist was able to narrow down the triggers of my seizures to lack of sleep and stress though I'm on a couple of mild sedatives at night (which don't always work but I try other things like keeping a routine etc...too, but I'm a light sleeper unfortunately so once I'm awake I'm utterly awake) on top of the other 2 anti-epileptics I take twice a day so I don't have seizures so often now. I feel really bad for my mum though as she just kinda lives with bad sleep
8:49 God damnit, ROS...
Pivot!!!
@ScienceisRadAF That's funny. I'm referencing Game Grumps and you're referencing Friends.
There is a condition called familial insomnia, and it’s basically where as you get older you slowly lose the ability to sleep. Pretty horrifying. By the time most people are in middle age, they pass away after essentially days or weeks on end of complete sleep deprivation. as awful as it is, it does offer a window for scientists to better understand sleep and how exactly it impacts us. That being said, I hope like hell they find a cure for that, for those terribly unfortunate folks who are afflicted…
"Fun" fact: there is another version of that disease called " _sporadic_ fatal insomnia" which is basically the exact same thing but with no family history to serve as a warning. Thank goodness it is very rare.
THANK YOU for not going into unnecessary detail about the puppy or rat studies.
please tell me you're vegan
@@jobko88not the time, you're pushing people farther away
@@jobko88 My hamburger gets plenty of sleep, thank you very much.
@@delphicdescantI'd have been interested though. It's this a show for adults or children?
@@Shinkajoassume anything on RUclips targets adults unless the comments are disabled.
I’m 73 years old I take a sleeping pill at night I go to bed between 11 and midnight I wake up at two I wake up at four and if I’m lucky I will sleep again until maybe five 530. I hate this. Plus I do eat ginger blueberries apples bok choy lots of different things that have antioxidants. Not that anybody cares it’s just a statement
you probably need to drink b vitamins, if you drink coffee already drink half an energy drink most of them have b12 if you sleep better you can now know it's b vitamins.
Your frustrations are valid. Struggling with sleep, especially in older age sucks. I hope in the future we can reverse damage from many of us not sleeping enough or even when it's enough, not sleeping well.
Sleeping pills are not meant to be taken long term, they are strictly short term, stop taken them
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I assume you already consume zero caffeine? and you don't drink wine right? you don't eat anything after about 7pm? no smoking pot right? and you tried melatonin before resorting to "sleeping pills"? Low sugar healthy diets is important but not the whole ballgame. What things have you tried?
Guinness world records doesn't accept any records anymore that can be considered harmful be it human or animal
ONLY because of the fear of being sued. They were happy to contribute to suffering when it helped sell books.
There is a record most cockroaches in mouth. Many roaches were harmed in attempts to beat that record.
That or maybe roaches are considered plants.
This reminds me of an old Flash-based game, called CellCraft. You play as a Platypus cell and have to manage your organelles to survive, including generating toxins and other stuff.
One of the main features of the game is that whenever you used photosynthesis(implemented not as a realistic reason, but rather as another way to survive), the chloroplasts would generate a HUGE amount of oxidants, and as such you had to activate them sparingly or your cell would die pretty quickly, overwhelmed by its own gut garbage.
I really didn't sleep at all last night. Next day RUclips recommends me this video. Talk about timing.
I had a pretty good routine for all nighters I came up with in school. Every two hours I ate half a bag of mixed steamed veg, was constantly drinking water. Every 6 hours I had a burger egg tortillas and more steamed veg. It's crazy how much of a difference that would make.
Perfect video to watch right after pulling an all-nighter.
watching this in the middle of one
2:49 "We did WHAT?!"
Humans have tested a lot of things on a variety of animals for centuries.
Animal activists complain today despite significant improvements and the reason is because no matter what you have to test and variety of creatures to compare results and data and then sometimes human trials if it's possible.
Rats are very commonly used today but they're highly social animals that bond just like dogs do. They're called pocket puppies for a reason.
We use primates farily often as well as they're still our closest relatives to most other animals.
It's a sad reality in science
@@yulfine1688I wish they could experiment on actual humans but then they're like "that's bad!"
Animals cant Consent to experiments.
Humans can.
If a human consents to an experiment, they fully understand what's happening. Animals don't.
welcome to reality, we torture animals to find out things
One my talents that everyone says is how easily i can fall asleep. I feel truly blessed that a good sleep is basically automatic for me.
You lucky jerkface. If you could bottle that ability you'd be a billionaire overnight. Oh, but do you wake up easily? I've always heard that's the trade-off, that if you sleep easily you have a tendency to sleep through alarms.
Or you may actually sleep deprived and have central apnea . If you have Central apnea , you can easlly fall asleep , frequently but you are not actually sleeping thats why you can fall asleep easily.
@@v3ss0n Sleep apnea isn't real, it's something they invented to sell expensive machines to your insurance company. Don't you find it awfully suspicious that literally everyone that goes in for a sleep study is told they need one afterwards?
1:45 When I was sleep deprived, I thought it was as though I were drunk. I had, however, never drank alcohol in my life, and hence, knew not if my guess were accurate.
I would be curious to know more about sleep deprivation and why some days it's not that bad and others it's down right miserable. I have been diagnosed with insomnia, and without pills I can't sleep, and finding out more to why that is without me spending 1000s is always interesting and its effects on the next day
Not being facetious, but speak with your doctor. They can offer advice on where to look if not give you that insight outright. They don’t have to be just resources for diagnosis and prescriptions like many people commonly utilize them.
Alternatively, research some mental health and neurological disorders, _but only if you are certain you won’t self-diagnose._ That trap is even easier with those disorders due to the massive overlap with each other and “normal” human behaviors. They can do some really weird things and manifest physically. Hell, just increased stress can do all of that. Resulting in perplexing, seemingly arbitrary, complications.
@@Leaky_Spigot I mean I have multiple doctors about my sleep state and they've all basically told me they've reached the end of their expertise about it. I think I've seen a total of 6 different doctors about it. Saddly insomnia can be caused by so many things, but not much research has been made into the more rarer cases. They did offer to put me in for my tests but we are talking 1000s of dollars, and I'm barely paycheck to paycheck. Of course a couple of those doctors were two different psychiatrists because my insurance declined to offer medication as a solution unless I proved it wasn't caused by depression and stress.
@@TemplePate01 YT really isn't a place to search for diagnostic advice. (Especially if that person has chosen to name themselves as a piece of broken hardware. lol.) Even when well intended, the information you get may be false or even dangerous and should only be only be used to find topics to properly research _if they are relevant._ To that end, I can't really offer anything else.
I do wish you luck though. That's a really difficult position to be in. Keep at it though. Some journeys last longer than others.
@@Leaky_SpigotTheir comment didn't come across as speaking medical advice to me, just an expression of curiosity with a little context.
@@TheLithophile I get that, and felt that was most likely the case as well. Unfortunately, their situation isn’t uncommon, and for some, any answer can become better than the endless, exhausting barrage of no answers.
I only meant to help remind/reinforce the exercise of caution in case it was needed.
Some science is actually not worth the horrors that we inflict on other animals, not just the puppies but also the mice and rats. I think that we need to change these norms, I think it’s really despicable that someone was allowed to do this.
when i was a teenager i often went without sleeping, longest was 5 days straight. not intentionally, i just had extremely severe insomnia, i simply was not able to fall asleep no matter how hard i tried. by the last day i was delirious, kept seeing shadows out of the corner of my eye, could hardly respond to anything, and just generally felt like i was losing my mind. wouldn't recommend.
Thank you for your sleep deprivation video. I am a night shift nurse. I work 12 hour night shifts. I am 71 years young. I don't see many studies on sleep deprivation and those who work nights. But what I've been doing over the past few years is rather than adjusting my sleep schedule on my days are off I just keep the same schedule on my off days. In a way it's good because it's quiet in the house and I can get some work done. But not always practical so if you know of any suggestions please share them with me thank you very much
While working in a hospital, I took care of a lady (who had many, many health issues) who was brought in due to a psychological break. She stared straight ahead and moved her mouth like she was talking for 3 FULL weeks. We weren't in her room all the time, but we did turn her every two hours to keep her from getting pressure sores, and nobody ever saw her sleep. Nothing we gave her helped at all (except the IV feed that kept her alive), but at the end of three weeks, she suddenly went back to her normal (very physically unhealthy) self. We ended up sending her home after a few more days. Strangest thing I ever saw. Would love to know what was going on.
Best guess would be infectious or autoimmune encephalopathy.
if it was for a psychotic episode then it's possible that some rare, undiagnosed and unusual brain condition, likely temporary, caused her to remain awake yet suffered no permanent damage or symptoms once it 'fixed itself', there are so many such strange afflictions which can only be guessed at by specialist physicians regarding the exact cause and nature... however, after i broke my neck back in '90 and became a quad i spent the first 3 weeks in an icu with over 100lbs of weights strapped to my neck before i could have my spinal fusion surgery and be fitted with a halo... i was on a constantly electrically rotating bed to prevent bed sores and fluid in my lungs, tubes through my nose to my stomach and a foley cath... i was given morphine every few hours for the first 2 weeks so after a few days being strapped to that bed looking straight up at the ceiling at various angles as that bed tilted from one side to the other, i was seeing interesting things as i could not sleep... after, i think, 7 days or so they removed the foley for reasons that i no longer can remember and then nurses would clean/intermittently cath me every few hours... anyway, this all lasted for about 3 weeks and i never really slept throughout that time... nurses were aware of this but what happened was that i'd constantly experienced micro-naps... even with my eyes opened i'd go into a trans where i could still hear everything wnd often see the ceiling and be back to alert instantly as soon as anyone passed near me, spoke to me or it was time to get catheterized... yet i'd also somehow go right back into my trance, even after they no longer gave me morphine and that's how my brain could regenerate and function sans any actual sleep i suppose... perhaps that woman was experiencing something similar?...
Emia meaning presence in blood
Right after i decided to not sleep tonight this video appear, great!!
10:40 me googling how to get the most antioxidants in my diet so i can not sleep
Absolutely lol
My first thought, too XD
Same
I think we're going to need something stronger than blueberries 😥
3:36 Sleep deprevation is an iinteresting field of study and all, but have we studied this whole "people turning into rats" thing?
LOL they should have said that the researchers turned TOWARD using rats in their study
Keeping puppies from sleeping til they die sounds like comic book villain/irl future serial killer behavior.
I love your content! Always new things to learn. Thank you!
Those poor flies 😮😂 theyre just awake like "yknow ive just been feeling kinda shite lately but i dont know why" and then they die
My sleep schedule sucks bc i work nights and have been a chronic sleep procrastinator...very interesting stuff. Guess i need to look up what foods are anti-oxidant rich. And maybe sleep better.
Same tho
My jawdrop when he said they modified their genes so they COULDNT SLEEP 😭 but yeah it's 4am and I haven't slept at all
Eat lemons
9:50 beautifully put sentence
Lmao watching this at 3 AM ok i got the message whatever
this is why it's extremely important to fight for shorter/less work days, school days that are pushed back to later in the morning (teens especially have delayed circadian rhythm) with no homework, and why we need to kick the "grind" mindset to the curb. we're killing ourselves, worse, we're killing our children.
I remember when I was a teen, I'd stay up late each night because I wanted free time that school didn't give me. I slept at 2, got up at 6:30ish to go to school, and would try to make up the sleep in class. depression hit me hard about the same time this started up, and I've never recovered. there's also a bout of stomach issues to go with it so hm.
I just gave up on getting any sleep tonight and resigned myself to being awake. Then this pops up on my feed lol
It is been three years since I have had some weird disorder that no doctors were able to figure out. My insurance plan has some very slow doctors. Three years back I forced myself to not sleep for 48 hours straight because my grades were laughed at. After I did get good grades, of course, the teachers' attitudes changed. But now that I think of it and all the mental with physical pains and debilitating daily life, it wasn't worth it at all, didn't worth a single penny in the end. It actually costed me more. I now work as a e-commerce salesperson and didn't go to college, which I must say, will never be where my talent would fit. This is the biggest joke I've made to myself. And it probably will kill me within the next five to ten years, well...that is, if doctors still have no answers.
I didn't undesrtand. You didn't sleep for tow days and that will kill you?
@alephestudios Did that consistently for two weeks straight. While consuming heavy caffeine and some alcohol.
@@Rin-t2k I'm sorry to read that. I suffered from heavy gastritis and hair loss due to lack of sleep. For the first problem I took proton pump inhibitors for a few days and then just took care of not provocating acid reflux again. For the later, I took Valeriana Oficinales for a month, which helped me sleep much better and recover my healthy melatonin levels, therefore ending problems I had besides hair loss.
Bold of you to assume I want to live for more than 40 more days
40 is OK, 67 not. In 67 days an Age of Darkness will descend upon the USA (2025-01-20)
WHAT IF I ALREADY MISSED MY DEATH
"In 1894, Russian physician Marie de Manaceine conducted a study on sleep-deprived puppies to determine if sleep is more important than food. She kept 10 puppies, aged 2-4 months, in a constant state of activity by walking and handling them, and found that all of them died within a few days. The puppies' deaths were attributed to severe brain lesions."
Absolute monster...
People done worst than that
@@academy2247Are you saying it's okay with that statement?
Don’t know if I would call them a monster lol. Hindsight has a far different perspective, especially when the point you’re looking at is 130 years ago.
@ no I’m just saying pointing at one thing that a woman did rather than millions that men have done and calling her a monster is not fair to iffvfox9749
Makes you think what the future will think of us, don’t it?
Not only is this video making me sleepy, it's giving me flashbacks to college. Both roommates I had were from the opposite side of the world and kept me up all night with their late night gaming
5:52 lack of sleeps ages you pretty fast, combine with stress and there you go
I’ll sleep when I’m dead.
Science: not sleeping is killing you
Finally I’ll get some sleep!
Underrated comment. 😂
I worked nights for a year and it was one of the most miserable years of my life. I don't care what anyone says, sleeping during the day is not really sleeping. And I was a single mom, so I was flipping my sleep schedule every time I was off, every 2-3 days. Between that and all the sleep I lost in my 20s, I'm destined for Alzheimer's any day now. Now I'm bad about splitting up my sleep. I work 2nd shift so I'll stay up late and then wake up while my son is getting ready for school, then sleep for like 2 more hours before I go to work. My therapist always asks about how much sleep I get and I always say 8 hours but then I mentioned how it is split up, and its obvious to me now, but that is NOT 8 hours of sleep because of REM cycles and the unpredictable times I sleep and wake up. So I try to get to bed earlier and stay up when my son gets up but 6:50 is really early when you work second shift so I fail at it all the time, but i still try. The older i get the more goofy I am when I don't get good sleep.
We need more research & info on how effective anti-oxidants really are on this! Would be awesome to be able to function on & not feel tired on less sleep
you know for years i craved antioxidants and ate a huge amount of them. like really huge. it later turned out i have an actual biological sleep disorder. as i get older the damage is still ripping apart my brain and internal organs no matter how much antioxidants. if you are young and healthy i think antioxidants will be good for anyone. esp with this. however sleep loss is cumulative, and as the video rightly says, it will kill you if it goes on too long. and too long is actually way shorter than ppl think.
Additionally, the feeling of being tired doesn’t go away. Anti-oxidants are just neutralizing the cause of death here. Feeling tired is a mechanism in the brain triggered by the build up of some waste which gets produced as we think (I believe the molecule was glutamate?). This is not affected by antioxidants.
You headed off my question at the end, I was wondering how ROS in the stomach would cause death. As always great science educational output. Needed more than ever these days. Thank you team SciShoq!
Changing your sleeping habits for the better is really one of the best things you can do in life, I feel actually happy, not just neutral, and alive somehow! I would venture the path to happiness starts with sleep
Guys you misspelled the fruit fly at 06:05 it's missing two E's. Also, that was a fun topic
It is indeed Drosophila melanogaster. Their proofreader should sleep more.
I've had depression and sleep deprivation for many years, now in my 60s. I can't sleep more than 4-5 hours and just pop awake suddenly no matter how tired I am. Then, by early evening, I can hardly keep my eyes open. It creates even more stress and sleeplessness, not to mention loneliness in the middle of the night.
Sounds like an out of sync sleep cycle. Try to research "circadian entrainment". Also you might have some Mediterranean dna that needs a quick nap in the middle of the day. Take care of yourself.
I’m also in my 60’s and for a decade now have trouble sleeping. I wake up with a jolt 3 to 6 times a night and don’t remember any dreams. Very tired between 5-10 then wide awake. I make myself physically exhausted to be able to sleep then my body hurts the following day. When I tell my doctor,she wants to prescribe pills. No no no not adding to the anxiety. Doing more research now. All the best to you 🌺
@@lovely-mk4rt have you been checked for sleep apnea?
@@lovely-mk4rt Yall should investigate bio-feedback. Lower brain waves from beta -> alpha - > theta -> delta. Sounds like you can't get/stay out of the higher levels.
That really sucks. Honestly there probably isn't a ton you can do that I am assuming you haven't already tried. I am wondering though can you fall asleep again after reawaking. If you are retired try sleeping 5 hours, spending a few hours awake, and sleeping again
answer at 8:34
Lmao thanks
im not a fruit fly 🤦🏽
thanks..
but i think the 0-8:32
is also fun to watch
Y'all so impatient 😂
You know or the thumbnail
That first couple of minutes sounded like my first 18 to 24 months with my new born daughter. 😂 my brain was turning to oatmeal. But we both survived. 🤗
Thank you for this video. I'm inspired to develop some better sleep patterns ❤
During the workweek, I sleep 5-6 hours on average, occasionally 7. I think I'm someone who needs closer to at least 9 to feel ok. I just can't live my life doing nothing but working and sleeping 5 days straight, I stay up to do ANYTHING enjoyable. Pretty sure I just have constant sleep deprivation and my mood worsens every day til I sleep in on my days off
same
my best mate once got addicted to cocaine and stayed awake for 3 weeks while still going to work all becuase he was coced out of his mind the whole time
Honestly when i dont sleep for a long time i dont feel like eating. My fight or flight keeps going off saying im npt sleeping for a reason. I get really nauseated and eating is so much energy.
Which antioxidants were found to have the best effect at helping ROS depletion in sleep deprivation?
Funny how RUclips reccomends this to me at 2AM while I was supposed to be sleeping
I didn't realize I almost broke that record at some point. Insomnia sucks mans. Worst 15 days ever and I barely even remember them in the end.
first 8 minutes felt wasted. video only mention what the title promise at 8:45 . should have gone straight to the point imo
100%
I stayed up for 4 days before. I was hallucinating by day 3
Havent watched sci-show in a long time gotta say that bit of age looks really good on you guy.
Recently went through a near death experience with bronchitis and pneumonia. My oxygen levels were dropping constantly and I was in and out of the hospital. Everytime I’d try to fall asleep, I’d wake up immediately gasping for air.
For a solid week I couldn’t breathe. For a solid week I didn’t sleep. Auditory hallucinations first after 3 days. Then came the hysteria and visual hallucinations. My husband took me to the hospital 3 times in a week.
I’m recovering now but seriously one of the worst things I’ve ever gone through. As bad it was not being able to draw air, properly…the lack of sleep made everything so intense that I was literally losing my mind.
11:17 - “What does this mean for Rachel?”
They were on a break
I once went 13 days without sleeping. My trick was to keep my body awake by doing HIIT/ calisthenics and drinking cold water every 15 minutes, just enough exercise to get the heart pumping and a little more than a gallon of water per day.
With this routine I really didn't feel much need for sleep at all except for those few moments as I approached 15 minutes, where it felt like my body was about to make a choice, go to sleep or stay awake. I should say that I was 17 at the time.
I went to sleep on that final day, having not made it to 2 weeks but not actually trying to, just because I finally felt like it when I really hadn't all those 13 days prior. It was also after having a really heavy, fatty meal
just curious - was there any particular reason why you did this?
@@corndo9 I just wanted some more free time for my hobbies. 13 days was the longest I'd ever done it but I wasn't forcing myself. The moment I felt that I wanted to stop, I stopped.
From age 11 to age 22, I would regularly go 3 days without sleeping and then sleep for a total of 4h before beginning the cycle again.
I noticed that after about 48h, all want and need for sleep seemingly disappears like a veil is lifted in my mind. There were no outward physical defects that resulted from this; I was rather tall, muscular and good looking for my ethnicity, and I was brimming with enthusiastic energy and attention.
However, there were some negative cognitive effects. Shortly after I began I discovered myself having difficulty recalling something that I actually wanted to remember for seemingly the very first time. I also started having difficulty remembering words, from once a month to once a week to once a day, and the feeling changed from the word being at the tip of my tongue, to the middle of the tongue, to the back of my tongue, to feeling like there's an empty space in my mind where the info should be, to not even perceiving an empty space where it should be. The time to recall went from milliseconds to seconds to minutes to hours to days to weeks...
And then halfway through, I developed severe depression, anxiety and anhedonia, but those symptoms in particular coincided with a wrongful administration of a powerful broad spectrum antibiotic. I'd developed a cough due to detergent buildup due to the fact that our home had hard water, and the depression, anxiety, anhedonia and personality changes lasted for years but reversed after I was given some more antibiotics and live probiotics for a gut problem I later developed, which was after my family was given some contaminated food and I allowed myself to eat it. The depression et al continued until long after I quit my altered sleep schedule.
I had originally been inspired by great thinkers of the past who allegedly pursued similar means of extending their useful life. I no longer remember who aside from Edison, da vinci and at least one of the Greek philosophers... It seemed to work for more than 5 years, aside from the sudden inability to recall random words.
@@zer0nix yeah, i don't think you realize how in fact difficult it is at a teen age - a time in life which requires the most sleep apart from toddlers - to stay awake by one's own will for more than 3 entire days and nights, never mind almost 2 weeks, as you decided to spin your yarn... what you're claiming makes absolutely no reasonable sense nor has any credibility with anyone who actually either has acute chronic insomnia or is a medical or science specialist in studying this field... and unless you're either an actual comic book superhero, did a ton of meth or crack during that timeframe, are suffering from a very rare genetic fatal insomnia syndrom which allows for such sleep deprivation periods but results in premature death, or it was induced outside of your control due to some ultra quirky glitch in your brain you're either a troll just trying to get a reaction or you have a habit of stating lies because of some mental disorder... i have already seen a few other bogus improbable claims in this comment section but decided to ignore it but yours is just so out there it's ludicrous...
@@zer0nix a ludicrous troll post, improbable and utterly silly...
0:12 is this the highest voluntary amount? I feel like I have heard about a rare hereditary decease that caused the inability to sleep.
Yes that is due to a disease process that is fatal. We can’t compare a disease state that happens to overlap with sleep, with what the normal body will experience im sleep deprived conditions. Like comparing a purposefully made 3 wheeled truck with a 4 wheeled truck that lost a wheel. They both have 3 wheels, but the impact on the truck and its fundamental build are different.
@@Limitedonathios The number is time without sleep, I am just asking for the clarification of it being the longest volentary time.
Just google world record no sleep
@@Limitedonathiosbro wtf are you on about, what does that have to do with the question
To answer your question, yes. This is called fatal familial insomnia. The first 7 months after onset result in very vivid dreams and sporadic sleep, followed by about 3 months of complete lack of sleep, and then up to 6 months of severe cognitive decline or a coma before resulting in death
Interesting study. As someone who has dealt with fragmented sleep and insomnia for extended periods of my life, at least I can switch up my diet to include a lot more anti-oxidants and see if that helps avert at least some of the ill effects I typically endure
Really nice title to have for people with insomnia...