As long as Tim is promoting Tim, Tim is open to criticism. He can fade into the shadows and be well off for the rest of his life. But his ego probably won't allow that
He violated his Oath to the Constitution. Violating the 1st, 2nd, 4th and various other amendments and worst of all, tries utilizing his "Influencer" status to dupe folks out of their rights.
He asked for ALL the problems coming his way. Can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Should not lie about combat stories and try to take Americans 2nd amendment away
I don’t see Leadership. The Community should have taken it offline. How many videos were made by content creators so they could get clicks over the past weeks? They should have Kept the shit in House and off the front lawn from the civilian trolls. Never fuck a buddy. Saw enough Leaders fucking each other over in the 90s climbing the political ladder. (Ranger School Class 14-89 showed me even the chest-beaters were quitters when shit got tough for them). This dude is just covering his ass from a lawsuit. And have no doubt, he will cut you lose if it benefits him.
You're spot on, narcissist, psychopaths, sociopath's rarely do that. They don't think anything is wrong with them, usually a person who does that thinks there is something very wrong with themselves to a point they feel it can't be fixed, and only way to "fix" it is to get rid of their existence early. If a narcissist does it, they usually think that there is something wrong with other people or the world around them their environment that's beating them, which they do believe that anyways, everyone is beneath them nobody can be better they are that delusional, they have to be #1 that's a pillar of narcissism. when they get like that it's because they had a complete exposure, floor collapse beneath them, and they have nothing or nobody to have the shared fantasy with...and they start to get into another stage of delusion where depression can show itself. So covert vulnerable narcissist can get like that if their world collapses around them, is he there? Well idk, he doesn't come off as covert vulnerable, he seems more overt grandiose... Those ones usually don't do that and yeah grandiose type narcissist are usually the "big" over the top in your face kind. One thing that hasn't been mentioned, is yeah he seems overt grandiose, well here's the thing... Narcs can shift to malignant type, or even shift into having psychopathic or sociopathic tendencies. That dude from Colorado who offed his wife and 2 daughters was clinically diagnosed NPD, but something caused him to go malignant, which can bring on the very cold and violent tendencies of narcissism, theoretically pushing that person into full on psychopathy. So we are sitting here discussing if this man is capable of self harm, but another thing people aren't mentioning is violence...which narcissist, psychopaths, and sociopaths have a higher chance of becoming very violent. Remember, the cluster b personality disorders don't actually hurt the person that much...they are an example of mental health condition where the person doesn't know they are crazy, it's why they rarely self harm, their issues hurt other people close to them more than it hurts them... So him becoming violent towards someone eventually is more likely I think. I mean Robert O'Neil, who I believe to be some kind of narcissist as well, the man beat someone up in a bar, then threatened grape on some young boys who posted on Twitter that they voted for Kamala Harris... He literally said he'd 🍇 them if we were living in different times. It's not just sof community, I was Marine Corps infantry we had narcs in my unit, they are everywhere you can think of. 1 in 10 people are on the cluster b spectrum.
@@Jdelli0916 narcissists don't love themselves. thats only the outward appearance. they despise themselves and are deeply insecure. and they are very vulnerable to suicide.
George Kennedy probably saw and dealt more death than Tim, veteran of Battle of the Bulge. Go look up his record, guy was a badass. And before Dakota Meyer there was Charles Durning, who reportedly did kill a guy with a rock, believe he received the Silver Star among many other awards.
There is ZERO chance that a dude like Tim will commit suicide. And at the end of the day, he is still out there turning a profit on other people's honor.
Tim already kinda tried once(that I know of)...when he swam out to sea(naked) and got recued by Coast Guard. The most successful Marine Sniper I knew took his own life. H had a family and was loved by everybody. We all have our demons.
@@jakerivets2249 bahaha what like you lol what have you done for your country your a NOBODY. None of ya'll whinging in the comments are spec ops or would even say it to his face.
Tim Kennedy deserves redemption but Tim Kennedy needs to figure out a way to do that himself. I question whether he is far enough from the razor thin edge of the Narcissism spectrum to actually be aware he has wronged himself and the community. I pray he has a come to Jesus meeting with himself. Either way I doubt he will be able to fully own it all.
As a civilian mma fan i find this whole scenario fascinating. Had no idea Tim had such a boner for himself. He was already badass without embellishments
What you seem to forget also, is that people like this Tim bloke are completely unknown really, outside of America 🤣😂 no one cares what yanks babble on about.
With all due respect.....no. not time yet. Tim needs to own it 1st. Once he does it will be over. Even if he kept quiet he would't be getting 10% of the hate he is deservingly getting.
Thank you for grounding this whole thread. That is exactly what I expect from a Green Beret and his training. Adaptive objectivity. We all make mistakes let us forgive adapt and overcome.
A genuine quiestion: After saying all this, are you going to take off videos you criticized him in to lower the pressure on him or are you gonna keep them on to make some more dollars and have this video as an excuse in case he really commits the final act?
You probably weren’t in the military. Some transgressions require being shamed in the public arena. Stolen valor, embellishments, and narcissism all exhibited in the public sphere, are those transgressions.
You’re spot on. This is real. Here is a case from 1996… Admiral Jeremy M. ``Mike'' Boorda, the U.S. Navy's top officer, committed suicide Thursday after leaving two notes lamenting the coming disclosure by journalists that he had improperly worn two bronze ``V'' pins - normally awarded for valor in combat - on Vietnam-era decorations he received.
Listen, I'm not a veteran but Tim did this to himself. If he wants it to stop he first has to admit to everything, and then you can help him. I highly doubt he's going to self delete. He's to arrogant to do that.
As a veteran to be on Tim's Kennedy level is something very few will not even come close to. Veteran suicide is so real and sad but our elected officials focus on illegal immigrants more so than soldiers and Veterans. God bless all Veterans and the SF community.
I just find it funny when SEALs are involved, you go all gung oh on it but when a green beret is involved you ask for leniency ? Tim created this whole mess, now it's up to him to fix it.
Hopefully Tim Kennedy does see this vid. And hopefully he corrects the errors and maybe he should be on the Anti Hero Podcast to cool the jets of Campaign on Dunking on Him.
You are not wrong.. the hardest thing to do is back off once you've won.. Tim's done. The job is done.. we don't want him to 86 himself. No matter how big a liar that's not what we want...
I almost felt sympathy for Tim until he posted that carefully edited video of him and the convoy ground force commander. The way he did that was shady AF and further proves just how disingenuous he is.
This is the first time I have seen this channel......your def C/O material. This is Leadership and, more importantly it's about protecting a community and each other. It's critical that you clean your own laundry in-house. There is zero need to air out dirty laundry.
This man is a True Leader yall! Tim might have stretched his story too far, but he has done things that most Americans could never do! He does deserve some respect but for the things that he has done! Let’s support and build our War Fighters!
God Bless You and all your Brothers. As a Marine it is sad to see guys attacking each other online. We have enough vets killing themselves without any help. Thank You for your message.
What’s done is done. The Community could have taken it offline with Kennedy. But from viewing all of these RUclipsrs trying to generate “stolen valor”clicks, I guess that wasn’t the case, was it? Calling on people to suddenly display Leadership qualities is a reach, but I’m thinking many never had it in the first place. Ranger School Class 14-89 showed me a lot about people, even after graduating.
I understand the need to let go and move on. You make a valid point. Tim exhibits traits of a narcissistic personality, and individuals like him are typically not suicidal. Selfish people often view situations through a self-centered lens, which distorts their understanding of the world around them. His behavior is driven by a dopamine high. They often create new narratives that contradict their previous ones. It's the quiet, unsung hero who hides his inner demons and does not seek the spotlight that should be worrisome. Tim couldn't even remember the names of his fallen teammates.
Mass respect to you, and the SF regiment. Taking care of your troops even after you out process. I hope Tim takes you up on your outreach, sadly, I dont think he will. He may be too far down the road, and the brakes won't work. The best you can do is offer help. I hope he takes it. If not, the chips will fall where they will. Be assured, you did your best.
It’s hilarious how many people that have never even laced up a pair of boots are on the internet bashing guys. Tim is obviously in a bad spot, but this guy has walked the razor’s edge…he’s seen and been involved in situations that wannabe soldiers have wet dreams about. Just the amount of training and knowledge he has is beyond what most people can grasp and far exceeds what most people could ever endure. He’s been a world class mma fighter and even McPhee said that Tim went through 4 guys on his team before Shrek had to finish him off on the mat. He’s not some guy who served behind a desk or in a chow hall (although those personnel are equally important in my eyes), he is a combat fighter of the highest caliber. Has he made some stupid mistakes and embellished some stories? Probably. As a combat veteran myself, I have heard lots of guys tell tall tales about their heroics…none of that bothers me to the point I’d want to crucify them or anyone else. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I’m cool with the criticism that he’s receiving but all these guys in the “community” that are railing against him is pretty sad…these guys would literally slit each other’s throats to get more likes and clicks. Good on you for giving him some grace and showing some class. Much respect to you, Sir.
Outstanding video and message. I think you are right. I knew someone in the Corps, someone I served with, a superior in rank, who committed suicide. Crazy, because I was just very briefly thinking about him a few days ago. Tim is highly successful on multiple levels of his life. He's not some "scrub" who totally fabricated EVERYTHING about himself. Tim K. can get through and past this with time and a little correct action.. If he can have insecurities at the heights he has reached 😳, then it can't be totally astonishing to me to recognize my own mental areas of insecurities.
Agreed. There are many in the not so silent or professional community that are tarnishing the overall reputation of the entire USA military and special ops branches by eating their own with poorly controlled egos and a fundamental lack of humility. The reality is there are elite special operators in all disciplines of life, so these guys really aren't that special, just specially trained.
Haha exactly just needed to totally ignore the fuss and just weather through it for a couple of weeks. The internet is ruthless, there's no way out of anything by apologizing in the internet era, I keep seeing people say " let him come clean and everything will be fine". Give me one exemple of that working out for anyone in the internet era, I don't recall one instance. The game works like that, if you respond you dig yourself deeper everytime, almost doesn't matter if you're right or wrong and in his case lies are unsustainable, you can't dig yourself out of a lie with another lie a d that is coming from a dude who was a chronic lier in his 20s
this is not the time to let up on tim, i couldn't disagree with this video any more. the guy continues to make millions lying. the first value you learn is integrity, show it.
You said your peace, and gracefully extend empathy. Getting one's ass chewed properly, is a helpful and caring position. We'll see how the tough love messages are received.
While I don’t disagree with you, I will say that I know plenty of combat veterans that don’t have PTSD and many vets who never saw combat that are service connected for PTSD. The mind is a fragile vessel…
Rule # 1 never feel bad for multi millionaires. There’s guys and veterans out there struggling with mental health issues who don’t have millions of dollars and 100K paid speeches to get top tier healthcare and are thrown into psyche wards for months and years. I still know some great marines who are rotting away in wards and no one cares. And what about Tim talking all the shit to Antihero Podcast guys and saying they never went to war or did shit? Or getting them censored on RUclips? Tim Kennedy’s response to the litany of allegations that were meant to sell more books was to post a video where he threw his editor under the bus and said they failed. Antihero guys said the best: the black riffle guys since around 2016 thought they had a monopoly and rose that wave until it crashed and now they’re coming out saying they didn’t even right their own books or blaming their editing teams.
“Let him get some air, so he can get his sh!t together.” Respectfully, I disagree. He chose to double down on his ‘grave’ when he made TWO rebuttals against “The Antihero Podcast”, which were swiftly debunked. Plus, he chose to make it public instead of talking things out behind-the-scenes. His LIES will, if not already, get young servicemen harmed down range.
*Plus, he’s a grown man with years of accomplishments - including as a leader. He knows what he’s done and could care less about the regiment nor your sentiments 🤷♂️
I agree. One thing I have learned is that Green Berets are the best at knowing when enough is enough. Clay, you and others brought out the receipts. Now Tim needs to reach out and make things right with his brothers.
Point blank, he needs to be HONEST!!! Hell, Marcus had to finally come clean about the book, the Navy and their influence, his team mates, everything. He finally told people that when shit hit the fan, he ran. That’s a VERY HARD THING TO SAY when you’re a SOF guy. You never want to admit defeat or that you were scared. But, to go public and to say all the crazy stuff he has said just to make himself be bigger than what he really is………that’s a whole new level of arrogance and stupidity. If I was face to face with Tim K. I would tell him to own it and let the world know. Let the chips fall where they may, pick them fucking chips up and move the fuck on. Period. Start the process of cleaning your record of lies. If folks come after you over it, I would tell them I have nothing more to say and move the fuck on. But NEVER dishonor your unit, God and country for fame and fortune. It will ALWAYS catch up to you. Karma is a bitch that never sleeps.
Tim always talks about being a man, owning your mistakes and growing from them, doing the hard things because they're the right thing to do, etc. Tim should lead by example and practice what he preaches. Nobody would hate him or shit on him for that, people would respect him for it.
Heck no don’t let up. He made that bed now he can lay in it. For years he’s done this and if anyone called him out we were gone after hard. So no don’t let up at all. A narcissistic persons like Tim will never do it.
That’s a very intelligent and mature perspective. I appreciate the grace you are offering to bring a fellow service member back into the fold. Stolen valor is huge, but it’s not worth someone taking their own life.
That is absolutely the stupidest take I've read in this comment section. Of course you can start a fire and then choose when to stop it. The entire premise of human civilization is mankind's ability to create and mange fires, up to and including putting them out. The irresponsible thing to do is let a fire burn out of control.
Well said Jay. You having a daughter is key too. Online bullying is real and it's way more intense than just going to school and getting picked on by one person. It can happen to adults too, not just adolescents. Tim's human, he made mistakes, you have put him through the gauntlet now and once he is out he needs to know the gauntlet is the gauntlet and the future is new and exciting. At the end of the day, he still has achieved a lot and went and put his life on the line for his country. You are awesome Jay!!
Easy for me to say I disagree based on Tim making absurd amounts of money off of lies. His celebrity status among some makes him suddenly less valuable than everyone else. We mentally write off these people based on status, i.e. Puff Daddy for example. If Puffy flipped his permanent off button does anyone really give a shit? Probably not. Everything you stated is valid, but patriotism, alpha male individuals and fanboys aren’t going to let it end. Best thing Tim could do is just come out and correct the issues, apologize and then don’t address the issue publicly ever again. SF and SOF’s social media would let it fade within 2 weeks.
They would just find someone else to attack…that’s how they work here in cyberspace…it’s all about likes and clicks and subscribers so they can make more and more money. Like someone else said in the comments, it’s not like Tim hasn’t done some amazing work and isn’t a bad ass, it’s that the other alpha’s (or whatever they consider themselves) can’t stand when someone else is getting more attention than they are.
Yeah, I agree. The info is out there. You've done your part. If the SF leadership doesn't take their own actions from here, that's a failure on them. If people continue to kick a dude while they're down, and it goes too far, that's gonna be on them. It has to be aired out, it has been aired out, now move along. Great job policing your own, Man. I respected you guys for calling him out and I respect the wherewithal to know when enough is enough. Now it's on SF and on Tim to fix his shit and carry himself in a light that shines honor towards whatever command he is part of. Solid work.
I'm just a lowly Airborne career reservist. Tim Kennedy is an entertainer with multiple legitimate accomplishments. He has witnesses. Less the perceived exaggerations, I think he mainly suffers from an inability to articulate his experiences with academic sophistication while being impressionistic. Thats all. He really is a great fighter/martial artist. He REALLY IS a Green Beret/Ranger qualified sniper. He REALLY DID serve overseas in combat. He REALLY DID get featured in a movie, he's on RUclips, He's been on TV etc. What's the big deal? They didn't put a "V" on his Bronze Star? He feels he should've gotten Purple Heart 💜 for his injuries? Idk guys, maybe he's just not meticulous and comes off the wrong way when he's trying to explain things. This is all bullshit. He might be a bit of a bullshitter but he's NOT a fraud.
It's kind of funny because every time I've been at my lowest people just keep packing it on, they never gave a fuck about my personal well-being. It's called accountability, man up and take responsibility for your actions. He doesn't deserve a free pass because his feelings are hurt. I don't want to see anyone kill themselves, but he doesn't deserve a free pass out of this.
Suicidal Ideation is very common in the veteran community. The military encourages members hiding it and keeping those thoughts hidden. If you are having those thoughts, seek help, the thoughts will persist if you don’t and lead to you making a plan and executing it. Get help, you need a team to win, you can’t beat it alone. As far as Tim goes, I definitely don’t want him to be another lost veteran even if he has built his identity on falsehoods. It’s important to remember that back when we joined Google didn’t exist….the recruiters and senior leaders “lied” or just sold us the up sides without mentioning the down sides. That is what the campaign with Luttrell/Tim/Rob is attempting to do in a new age of the internet. They are selling glory stories to a new generation. This channel doesn’t sell glory stories that are over embellished and Jay tells you young guys the truth for anyone who wants to take the path towards service in the elite parts of the Us military. Sorry to hear about the loss of one of your 3rd Grp brothers Jay, it pains me every-time I hear about another veteran choosing that road.
It's a serious possibility. The way I see it, he's already at the point of no return either way. If he admits it, it will destroy him, if he doesn't admit it, it will destroy him. And by destroy him, I mean his reputation, his credibility, etc. Sure some will forgive him, but he will now always be known as a liar. Once trust is broken, it's basically impossible to fully get back. Tim seems like someone who needs mass validation, he cares deeply about what others think about him. We all do to an extent, but not to the level he likely does if he's willing to lie about all of this. So maybe it's best to leave well enough alone at this point. The info is out there for whoever wants to go looking in the future. And we all have better things to do then rag on him all day.
F*ck !! It absolutely f'n sucks hearing about the toughest men who protect our country, feel that there's no way out 😢 Sorry to hear about your team member 😔
Veteran suicide is real folks. It affected my unit in Iraq, it has affected friends of mine. Glad you are talking about it. We as a community need to talk about it. Unfortunately stolen valor is real as well. TK needs to man up and come clean. He needs to own it and take his lumps. Semper Fi🇺🇸
As veterans very few have fought in the UFC, but everyone of us had to fight with pugil sticks.....Did he compete in pugil stick competition? Did he win/lose, or was he "special" forces.
Tim should’ve known what he’s signed up for. He needs to be honest and rebuild. That’s called integrity and HE HAS ZERO!!!!!! Time for him to own his mistakes and grow the F up. I was at HKIA with Tim in Afghanistan during the fall of Kabul. You don’t see me making up lies!!!!!! Accountability!!!!!!!! BTW bro, we’ve all fucked up. But we’ve owned our mistakes!!!!!
sry yall dont have Tim in anything other then sounding like school girls crying about the more popular cheer girl..why dont yall go to him face to face and tell him he is a fake if you all go together yall might stand a chance but probably not..
As soon as Tim knocks off his bullshit and stops pushing for Gun Control and shut's down his Anti-Gun Surveillance company, maybe I'll stop shitting on him.
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As soon as Tim quits running his mouth no one will dump on him..........
Not possible, the dude loves to hear himself talk
As long as Tim is promoting Tim, Tim is open to criticism. He can fade into the shadows and be well off for the rest of his life. But his ego probably won't allow that
He violated his Oath to the Constitution. Violating the 1st, 2nd, 4th and various other amendments and worst of all, tries utilizing his "Influencer" status to dupe folks out of their rights.
No his responsibility to feed his family won’t allow him to do that. The man still has to make a living.
He asked for ALL the problems coming his way. Can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Should not lie about combat stories and try to take Americans 2nd amendment away
@@Bravefit LMFAO
Leadership. Great video Jay!
this videos is all about civil suits and liability. Think about it bro?
Best troll comment. You're a gem 💎
How long did you serve in the Marines? Did you bail out too when GWOT kicked off?
@bestjobiveeverhad1348 he's older I think he got out before the first desert storm or just after. Good question tho
I don’t see Leadership. The Community should have taken it offline. How many videos were made by content creators so they could get clicks over the past weeks? They should have Kept the shit in House and off the front lawn from the civilian trolls. Never fuck a buddy. Saw enough Leaders fucking each other over in the 90s climbing the political ladder. (Ranger School Class 14-89 showed me even the chest-beaters were quitters when shit got tough for them). This dude is just covering his ass from a lawsuit. And have no doubt, he will cut you lose if it benefits him.
Tim is way to big of a narcissist to off himself.
I was about to write the same thing. Tim loves Tim way too much to do anything like that.
You're spot on, narcissist, psychopaths, sociopath's rarely do that. They don't think anything is wrong with them, usually a person who does that thinks there is something very wrong with themselves to a point they feel it can't be fixed, and only way to "fix" it is to get rid of their existence early. If a narcissist does it, they usually think that there is something wrong with other people or the world around them their environment that's beating them, which they do believe that anyways, everyone is beneath them nobody can be better they are that delusional, they have to be #1 that's a pillar of narcissism. when they get like that it's because they had a complete exposure, floor collapse beneath them, and they have nothing or nobody to have the shared fantasy with...and they start to get into another stage of delusion where depression can show itself. So covert vulnerable narcissist can get like that if their world collapses around them, is he there? Well idk, he doesn't come off as covert vulnerable, he seems more overt grandiose... Those ones usually don't do that and yeah grandiose type narcissist are usually the "big" over the top in your face kind.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned, is yeah he seems overt grandiose, well here's the thing... Narcs can shift to malignant type, or even shift into having psychopathic or sociopathic tendencies. That dude from Colorado who offed his wife and 2 daughters was clinically diagnosed NPD, but something caused him to go malignant, which can bring on the very cold and violent tendencies of narcissism, theoretically pushing that person into full on psychopathy. So we are sitting here discussing if this man is capable of self harm, but another thing people aren't mentioning is violence...which narcissist, psychopaths, and sociopaths have a higher chance of becoming very violent. Remember, the cluster b personality disorders don't actually hurt the person that much...they are an example of mental health condition where the person doesn't know they are crazy, it's why they rarely self harm, their issues hurt other people close to them more than it hurts them... So him becoming violent towards someone eventually is more likely I think. I mean Robert O'Neil, who I believe to be some kind of narcissist as well, the man beat someone up in a bar, then threatened grape on some young boys who posted on Twitter that they voted for Kamala Harris... He literally said he'd 🍇 them if we were living in different times. It's not just sof community, I was Marine Corps infantry we had narcs in my unit, they are everywhere you can think of. 1 in 10 people are on the cluster b spectrum.
@@Jdelli0916 narcissists don't love themselves. thats only the outward appearance. they despise themselves and are deeply insecure. and they are very vulnerable to suicide.
Ehh, with Jay in thinking that the most ill are just as mich in danger of doing it
That’s not really accurate and we all know it.
What about Nick Lavery’s fake accent?
Tim Kennedy is a badass. They named Kennedy Airport in NY after him. Or was that George Kennedy...
I think It was Kate Kennedy....
Don't.... don't google her....
Ted Kennedy
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
George Kennedy probably saw and dealt more death than Tim, veteran of Battle of the Bulge. Go look up his record, guy was a badass. And before Dakota Meyer there was Charles Durning, who reportedly did kill a guy with a rock, believe he received the Silver Star among many other awards.
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Tim loves Tim too much to do something like that to Tim lol
There is ZERO chance that a dude like Tim will commit suicide. And at the end of the day, he is still out there turning a profit on other people's honor.
Don't say 0 brother. Some of the most successful people in the world take their own lives.
That's what I said about a friend. A week after. He did it
Tim already kinda tried once(that I know of)...when he swam out to sea(naked) and got recued by Coast Guard. The most successful Marine Sniper I knew took his own life. H had a family and was loved by everybody. We all have our demons.
One of my soldiers I never thought would take his life did and that mess with me everyday
Tim achieved what most people can only dream of. He had no need to embellish his experiences.
i read stories online and on facebook written by friends I grew up with that do not even resemble their real lives
Lol most people don't dream of being SF.
100% Agree. However, he made his bed, he’s gonna lay on it.
What if he doesn't get up?
Who takes care of his kids?
A better man than him
@@jakerivets2249 in fantasy land. I grew up in a low income housing complex full of single mom families. Better men didn't show up.
@@jakerivets2249 bahaha what like you lol what have you done for your country your a NOBODY. None of ya'll whinging in the comments are spec ops or would even say it to his face.
@@johnchristopher3032who cares. How many children did he leave fatherless? Karma
Tim Kennedy deserves redemption but Tim Kennedy needs to figure out a way to do that himself. I question whether he is far enough from the razor thin edge of the Narcissism spectrum to actually be aware he has wronged himself and the community.
I pray he has a come to Jesus meeting with himself. Either way I doubt he will be able to fully own it all.
As a civilian mma fan i find this whole scenario fascinating. Had no idea Tim had such a boner for himself. He was already badass without embellishments
What you seem to forget also, is that people like this Tim bloke are completely unknown really, outside of America 🤣😂 no one cares what yanks babble on about.
With all due respect.....no. not time yet. Tim needs to own it 1st. Once he does it will be over.
Even if he kept quiet he would't be getting 10% of the hate he is deservingly getting.
Dude, when tim confesses, all will be fine , that's up to tim .
Thank you for grounding this whole thread. That is exactly what I expect from a Green Beret and his training. Adaptive objectivity. We all make mistakes let us forgive adapt and overcome.
Don’t think Tim would do it, he loves himself too much.
You don't want this on your conscience if he does like you think you do...take this bs down
@ nah, get off ur high horse
A genuine quiestion: After saying all this, are you going to take off videos you criticized him in to lower the pressure on him or are you gonna keep them on to make some more dollars and have this video as an excuse in case he really commits the final act?
If you cared that much, you go to him before shaming in public first, period
You probably weren’t in the military. Some transgressions require being shamed in the public arena. Stolen valor, embellishments, and narcissism all exhibited in the public sphere, are those transgressions.
You’re spot on. This is real. Here is a case from 1996… Admiral Jeremy M. ``Mike'' Boorda, the U.S. Navy's top officer, committed suicide Thursday after leaving two notes lamenting the coming disclosure by journalists that he had improperly worn two bronze ``V'' pins - normally awarded for valor in combat - on Vietnam-era decorations he received.
If he took responsibility and admitted what he's done, it would be over tomorrow.
People love a comeback story.
He won't do it however
Nah haha the internet never forgives.
Listen, I'm not a veteran but Tim did this to himself. If he wants it to stop he first has to admit to everything, and then you can help him. I highly doubt he's going to self delete. He's to arrogant to do that.
As a veteran to be on Tim's Kennedy level is something very few will not even come close to. Veteran suicide is so real and sad but our elected officials focus on illegal immigrants more so than soldiers and Veterans. God bless all Veterans and the SF community.
He packed his 'chute, now he is jumping it. DOL
I just find it funny when SEALs are involved, you go all gung oh on it but when a green beret is involved you ask for leniency ? Tim created this whole mess, now it's up to him to fix it.
Tim brought all of this on himself. Stop lying, take accountability, and let's move on already.
Hopefully Tim Kennedy does see this vid. And hopefully he corrects the errors and maybe he should be on the Anti Hero Podcast to cool the jets of Campaign on Dunking on Him.
You are not wrong.. the hardest thing to do is back off once you've won.. Tim's done. The job is done.. we don't want him to 86 himself. No matter how big a liar that's not what we want...
I almost felt sympathy for Tim until he posted that carefully edited video of him and the convoy ground force commander. The way he did that was shady AF and further proves just how disingenuous he is.
I think Tim would be surprised how fast people would embrace and forgive him if he came clean. His real life is more than enough.
I agree.
Yup. It would be old news in no time and no one would give a shit
Yes. Agreed
This is the first time I have seen this channel......your def C/O material. This is Leadership and, more importantly it's about protecting a community and each other. It's critical that you clean your own laundry in-house. There is zero need to air out dirty laundry.
This man is a True Leader yall! Tim might have stretched his story too far, but he has done things that most Americans could never do! He does deserve some respect but for the things that he has done! Let’s support and build our War Fighters!
narcissists dont off themselves they gaslight and shame others to do it but never themselves
God Bless You and all your Brothers. As a Marine it is sad to see guys attacking each other online. We have enough vets killing themselves without any help. Thank You for your message.
Thanks Marine
I agree.......that dude was in Carolina digging out bodies,I respect that
I think it should be kept in the community.
What’s done is done. The Community could have taken it offline with Kennedy. But from viewing all of these RUclipsrs trying to generate “stolen valor”clicks, I guess that wasn’t the case, was it? Calling on people to suddenly display Leadership qualities is a reach, but I’m thinking many never had it in the first place. Ranger School Class 14-89 showed me a lot about people, even after graduating.
I understand the need to let go and move on. You make a valid point. Tim exhibits traits of a narcissistic personality, and individuals like him are typically not suicidal. Selfish people often view situations through a self-centered lens, which distorts their understanding of the world around them. His behavior is driven by a dopamine high. They often create new narratives that contradict their previous ones. It's the quiet, unsung hero who hides his inner demons and does not seek the spotlight that should be worrisome. Tim couldn't even remember the names of his fallen teammates.
Mass respect to you, and the SF regiment. Taking care of your troops even after you out process. I hope Tim takes you up on your outreach, sadly, I dont think he will. He may be too far down the road, and the brakes won't work. The best you can do is offer help. I hope he takes it. If not, the chips will fall where they will. Be assured, you did your best.
Seems like all of these guys are trying to get their piece of Tim (and everyone else) to boost their followers. Period.
It’s hilarious how many people that have never even laced up a pair of boots are on the internet bashing guys. Tim is obviously in a bad spot, but this guy has walked the razor’s edge…he’s seen and been involved in situations that wannabe soldiers have wet dreams about. Just the amount of training and knowledge he has is beyond what most people can grasp and far exceeds what most people could ever endure. He’s been a world class mma fighter and even McPhee said that Tim went through 4 guys on his team before Shrek had to finish him off on the mat. He’s not some guy who served behind a desk or in a chow hall (although those personnel are equally important in my eyes), he is a combat fighter of the highest caliber. Has he made some stupid mistakes and embellished some stories? Probably. As a combat veteran myself, I have heard lots of guys tell tall tales about their heroics…none of that bothers me to the point I’d want to crucify them or anyone else. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I’m cool with the criticism that he’s receiving but all these guys in the “community” that are railing against him is pretty sad…these guys would literally slit each other’s throats to get more likes and clicks. Good on you for giving him some grace and showing some class. Much respect to you, Sir.
Outstanding video and message. I think you are right.
I knew someone in the Corps, someone I served with, a superior in rank, who committed suicide. Crazy, because I was just very briefly thinking about him a few days ago.
Tim is highly successful on multiple levels of his life. He's not some "scrub" who totally fabricated EVERYTHING about himself. Tim K. can get through and past this with time and a little correct action..
If he can have insecurities at the heights he has reached 😳, then it can't be totally astonishing to me to recognize my own mental areas of insecurities.
Agreed. There are many in the not so silent or professional community that are tarnishing the overall reputation of the entire USA military and special ops branches by eating their own with poorly controlled egos and a fundamental lack of humility. The reality is there are elite special operators in all disciplines of life, so these guys really aren't that special, just specially trained.
The best thing Tim could’ve done was not respond lol. It would’ve gone away the same way way it did for jocko.
Haha exactly just needed to totally ignore the fuss and just weather through it for a couple of weeks. The internet is ruthless, there's no way out of anything by apologizing in the internet era, I keep seeing people say " let him come clean and everything will be fine". Give me one exemple of that working out for anyone in the internet era, I don't recall one instance. The game works like that, if you respond you dig yourself deeper everytime, almost doesn't matter if you're right or wrong and in his case lies are unsustainable, you can't dig yourself out of a lie with another lie a d that is coming from a dude who was a chronic lier in his 20s
Thank you… shows your own personal strength and courage.
J, leaders lead, great job recognizing that dude needs help/guidance/leadership that you speak to! Keep doing great work. Appreciate you!
As a representative of the E4 mafia 11b I say keep calling out the liar.
this is not the time to let up on tim, i couldn't disagree with this video any more. the guy continues to make millions lying. the first value you learn is integrity, show it.
Seriously. Tim's a Treasons taint and a sociopath. He made his bed now he has to lay in it like a man
If you had a good friend, an actual good of yours who did this, and he ended up in a bad place, you would want people to show him mercy.
You said your peace, and gracefully extend empathy. Getting one's ass chewed properly, is a helpful and caring position. We'll see how the tough love messages are received.
Outstanding
Video sir carry on!!
Great post so many brothers bleed internally and don't talk due to our nature. We need to reach out more, few have accomplished so much."DOL"
Tim will never kill himself. He loves himself to much.
stop dumping on tim and start making him pay.
Tim doesn’t even believe in PTSD. Says it’s weak
Only those who are full of shit say such things. The veteran body count alone disagrees!!!! To make such a statement is absolutely disgusting IMO!
@ totally agree
While I don’t disagree with you, I will say that I know plenty of combat veterans that don’t have PTSD and many vets who never saw combat that are service connected for PTSD. The mind is a fragile vessel…
@@bham311post tramatic stress is fickle and a wide variety of symptoms that often overlap with other mental health issues
Too late bro. His own people
came out with the machete. Own it.
Good video! I also noticed that you’re wearing your field jacket liner at the tail end of the video 😉 I often wear mine as well
I wish there was an old proverb or something that could explain this perfectly like i dunno the truth will set you free
Massive respect for this.
Let's see that "reach out" and the conversation with Tim and you. I think that would be very interesting! ...and pretty fucking short.
Much respect 💯
Well said. Suicide is always a concern.
If we point the finger be willing to offer a hand to others to lift them up. Great example
I would love to see the ultimate redemption story manifest here. Rock on Sir!
Rule # 1 never feel bad for multi millionaires. There’s guys and veterans out there struggling with mental health issues who don’t have millions of dollars and 100K paid speeches to get top tier healthcare and are thrown into psyche wards for months and years. I still know some great marines who are rotting away in wards and no one cares. And what about Tim talking all the shit to Antihero Podcast guys and saying they never went to war or did shit? Or getting them censored on RUclips? Tim Kennedy’s response to the litany of allegations that were meant to sell more books was to post a video where he threw his editor under the bus and said they failed. Antihero guys said the best: the black riffle guys since around 2016 thought they had a monopoly and rose that wave until it crashed and now they’re coming out saying they didn’t even right their own books or blaming their editing teams.
“Let him get some air, so he can get his sh!t together.” Respectfully, I disagree. He chose to double down on his ‘grave’ when he made TWO rebuttals against “The Antihero Podcast”, which were swiftly debunked. Plus, he chose to make it public instead of talking things out behind-the-scenes. His LIES will, if not already, get young servicemen harmed down range.
*Plus, he’s a grown man with years of accomplishments - including as a leader. He knows what he’s done and could care less about the regiment nor your sentiments 🤷♂️
Tim and I were in C/3/7 back 2008, Different TM’s and never really worked together. However, I have to agree with you on this, good video.
I agree. One thing I have learned is that Green Berets are the best at knowing when enough is enough. Clay, you and others brought out the receipts. Now Tim needs to reach out and make things right with his brothers.
Receipts!!
100% agree, so I'll just ignore him from now on.
Point blank, he needs to be HONEST!!! Hell, Marcus had to finally come clean about the book, the Navy and their influence, his team mates, everything. He finally told people that when shit hit the fan, he ran. That’s a VERY HARD THING TO SAY when you’re a SOF guy. You never want to admit defeat or that you were scared. But, to go public and to say all the crazy stuff he has said just to make himself be bigger than what he really is………that’s a whole new level of arrogance and stupidity. If I was face to face with Tim K. I would tell him to own it and let the world know. Let the chips fall where they may, pick them fucking chips up and move the fuck on. Period. Start the process of cleaning your record of lies. If folks come after you over it, I would tell them I have nothing more to say and move the fuck on. But NEVER dishonor your unit, God and country for fame and fortune. It will ALWAYS catch up to you. Karma is a bitch that never sleeps.
Tim always talks about being a man, owning your mistakes and growing from them, doing the hard things because they're the right thing to do, etc. Tim should lead by example and practice what he preaches. Nobody would hate him or shit on him for that, people would respect him for it.
Agree 100%. Tim Kennedy has been called out, leave it there.
Heck no don’t let up. He made that bed now he can lay in it. For years he’s done this and if anyone called him out we were gone after hard. So no don’t let up at all. A narcissistic persons like Tim will never do it.
It looks like all he has to do is tell the truth. Literally all he has to do.
That’s a very intelligent and mature perspective. I appreciate the grace you are offering to bring a fellow service member back into the fold.
Stolen valor is huge, but it’s not worth someone taking their own life.
You can’t spark the fire then decide to lecture everyone when YOU decide it’s time to stop roasting the marshmallows!
And…..it sounds like Tim made a recent “donation” to Green Beret Chronicles!
@@DGillian6406😂
That is absolutely the stupidest take I've read in this comment section.
Of course you can start a fire and then choose when to stop it.
The entire premise of human civilization is mankind's ability to create and mange fires, up to and including putting them out. The irresponsible thing to do is let a fire burn out of control.
Well said Jay. You having a daughter is key too. Online bullying is real and it's way more intense than just going to school and getting picked on by one person. It can happen to adults too, not just adolescents. Tim's human, he made mistakes, you have put him through the gauntlet now and once he is out he needs to know the gauntlet is the gauntlet and the future is new and exciting. At the end of the day, he still has achieved a lot and went and put his life on the line for his country. You are awesome Jay!!
Criticism doesn't make people off themselves..an unmovable Ego is what does that.
All Tim needs to do is tell the truth. He's been exposed and still sticks to his lies. Tim brought the pain on himself.
Easy for me to say I disagree based on Tim making absurd amounts of money off of lies. His celebrity status among some makes him suddenly less valuable than everyone else. We mentally write off these people based on status, i.e. Puff Daddy for example.
If Puffy flipped his permanent off button does anyone really give a shit? Probably not.
Everything you stated is valid, but patriotism, alpha male individuals and fanboys aren’t going to let it end.
Best thing Tim could do is just come out and correct the issues, apologize and then don’t address the issue publicly ever again. SF and SOF’s social media would let it fade within 2 weeks.
They would just find someone else to attack…that’s how they work here in cyberspace…it’s all about likes and clicks and subscribers so they can make more and more money. Like someone else said in the comments, it’s not like Tim hasn’t done some amazing work and isn’t a bad ass, it’s that the other alpha’s (or whatever they consider themselves) can’t stand when someone else is getting more attention than they are.
Jay is covering his ass in case Tim does eat a round. With that being said, Peddle to the metal. Carry On
I agree, enough is enough….we all made our point……he can always just apologize and say he messed up…..
Yeah, I agree. The info is out there. You've done your part. If the SF leadership doesn't take their own actions from here, that's a failure on them. If people continue to kick a dude while they're down, and it goes too far, that's gonna be on them. It has to be aired out, it has been aired out, now move along. Great job policing your own, Man. I respected you guys for calling him out and I respect the wherewithal to know when enough is enough. Now it's on SF and on Tim to fix his shit and carry himself in a light that shines honor towards whatever command he is part of. Solid work.
I'm just a lowly Airborne career reservist. Tim Kennedy is an entertainer with multiple legitimate accomplishments.
He has witnesses. Less the perceived exaggerations, I think he mainly suffers from an inability to articulate his experiences with academic sophistication while being impressionistic.
Thats all. He really is a great fighter/martial artist. He REALLY IS a Green Beret/Ranger qualified sniper. He REALLY DID serve overseas in combat. He REALLY DID get featured in a movie, he's on RUclips, He's been on TV etc.
What's the big deal? They didn't put a "V" on his Bronze Star? He feels he should've gotten Purple Heart 💜 for his injuries? Idk guys, maybe he's just not meticulous and comes off the wrong way when he's trying to explain things. This is all bullshit. He might be a bit of a bullshitter but he's NOT a fraud.
It's kind of funny because every time I've been at my lowest people just keep packing it on, they never gave a fuck about my personal well-being. It's called accountability, man up and take responsibility for your actions. He doesn't deserve a free pass because his feelings are hurt. I don't want to see anyone kill themselves, but he doesn't deserve a free pass out of this.
Also, Tim has the $$ to enjoy the rest of his life. Yet if you trade integrity for $$ how enjoyable will your life be.
There are many things money can't buy. For everything rlse there is RUclips
The truth is hard to say, but easy to live with. A lie is easy to say, but hard to live with.
Suicidal Ideation is very common in the veteran community. The military encourages members hiding it and keeping those thoughts hidden. If you are having those thoughts, seek help, the thoughts will persist if you don’t and lead to you making a plan and executing it. Get help, you need a team to win, you can’t beat it alone.
As far as Tim goes, I definitely don’t want him to be another lost veteran even if he has built his identity on falsehoods. It’s important to remember that back when we joined Google didn’t exist….the recruiters and senior leaders “lied” or just sold us the up sides without mentioning the down sides. That is what the campaign with Luttrell/Tim/Rob is attempting to do in a new age of the internet. They are selling glory stories to a new generation. This channel doesn’t sell glory stories that are over embellished and Jay tells you young guys the truth for anyone who wants to take the path towards service in the elite parts of the Us military.
Sorry to hear about the loss of one of your 3rd Grp brothers Jay, it pains me every-time I hear about another veteran choosing that road.
It's a serious possibility. The way I see it, he's already at the point of no return either way. If he admits it, it will destroy him, if he doesn't admit it, it will destroy him. And by destroy him, I mean his reputation, his credibility, etc. Sure some will forgive him, but he will now always be known as a liar. Once trust is broken, it's basically impossible to fully get back. Tim seems like someone who needs mass validation, he cares deeply about what others think about him. We all do to an extent, but not to the level he likely does if he's willing to lie about all of this. So maybe it's best to leave well enough alone at this point. The info is out there for whoever wants to go looking in the future. And we all have better things to do then rag on him all day.
That sapper tab in the background next to your gb plaque looks badass, if i was young id want to attend SAPPER school if i was in my 20's again.
F*ck !! It absolutely f'n sucks hearing about the toughest men who protect our country, feel that there's no way out 😢 Sorry to hear about your team member 😔
Veteran suicide is real folks. It affected my unit in Iraq, it has affected friends of mine. Glad you are talking about it. We as a community need to talk about it.
Unfortunately stolen valor is real as well. TK needs to man up and come clean. He needs to own it and take his lumps.
Semper Fi🇺🇸
It stops when teddy stops!
As veterans very few have fought in the UFC, but everyone of us had to fight with pugil sticks.....Did he compete in pugil stick competition? Did he win/lose, or was he "special" forces.
This is the definition of integrity. Couldn’t agree more.
3:33 is it tho? He hasn't had any repercussions. Just more publicity and money.
Quite balanced mate. Love from Australia👊
Tim should’ve known what he’s signed up for. He needs to be honest and rebuild. That’s called integrity and HE HAS ZERO!!!!!! Time for him to own his mistakes and grow the F up. I was at HKIA with Tim in Afghanistan during the fall of Kabul. You don’t see me making up lies!!!!!! Accountability!!!!!!!! BTW bro, we’ve all fucked up. But we’ve owned our mistakes!!!!!
sry yall dont have Tim in anything other then sounding like school girls crying about the more popular cheer girl..why dont yall go to him face to face and tell him he is a fake if you all go together yall might stand a chance but probably not..
Just like Andy Stumpf said on the last Cleared Hot: they know he can f*ck all of them up and the haters can’t stand it.
I am impressed with your display of character.🙏❤🧠🙏 and hitting a level/demographic that only an individual of your record can hit/cover. 🎯👑
As soon as Tim knocks off his bullshit and stops pushing for Gun Control and shut's down his Anti-Gun Surveillance company, maybe I'll stop shitting on him.
He wouldn’t give a shit if one of us kills ourselves 😂
A lot of vets need 420