I like how Percy referenced knowing the engines previously, as they were most likely the ones listening to in the first part of 'Percy Takes the Plunge'.
Now I know, on the television series Gordon looks like a cross between a Gresely pacific and a Coronation pacific. When Gordon gets streamlined he uses the body cover of the Dutchess of Hamilton.
I can understand why the adaptation for this story was called "Thomas and the Special Letter". It focused more on Thomas than Fat Controller or any of his other engines. And I don't mind that this story wasn't considered for Series 2 along with the rest of The 8 Famous Engine since it's fine as a standalone.
I like Jinty and Pug, there used too be an LMS Kitson Pug Engine at Barrow Hill Roundhouse near Chesterfield in BR days, engine No. 47000, as for Jinty, I've ridden on both 47357 and 47327 at Midland Railway, Butterley :)
I think the reason why awdry added a part of thomas crashing to the buffers is for getting thomas a rebuilt to change the running board from sagged to streight but however awdry's attempt had failed but it was fixed on thomas comes to breakfast and was later finally given thomas a streight running board
The picture of the junction at the beginning was clearly a template used by Gunvor and Peter Edwards for the picture at the start of Stepney The Bluebell Engine.
Yup I love when they reuse shots across the books. There is one of a station on thomas branch line that is used for in Percy Takes the Plunge, Thomas Comes to Breakfast, and Ghost Train
Mavis The Diesel Engine, Boco The Green Diesel, Bill and Ben the tank Engine twins and Donald and Douglas the Scottish Twin Engines are not introduced in this book yet.
Good thing it wasn't, because otherwise we wouldn't have gotten to see any other female locomotives or even diesels OR even characters like Donald and Douglas, Bill and Ben, Diesel, Daisy, George, more of Rheneas, Stepney, BoCo, Oliver, Toad, Bulgy, Mavis, Rusty, Duncan, Duke, the Mountain Engines, Scruffey, the Spiteful Brake Van, Caroline, Nancy: a guard's daughter, Neil, Rex, Bert, Mike, Class 40, Bear, Spamcan, Talyllyn and Dolgoch, City of Truro, or Flying Scotsman, or episodes like Thomas Comes to Breakfast, one of Christopher Awdry's favorite episodes in the Railway Series.
@@arenjtumastens also not to mention Duck was barely developed at this point so if it ended right here we'd know all about everyone except Duck besides him having a hard working personality
Apparently Rev W Awdry was gonna make this the last book soooooo glad he didn't illustrator John T Kenney's first book love John's illustrations RIP John shame your eyesight faded and you have to stop after just six volumes and sorry he died only 61 in 1972
On the one hand, the TV series did a great job at making the damage Thomas sustained look believable. I refuse to believe the books that bashing into buffers would damage his front badly enough to jeopardize the London arrangements. On the other hand, there’s no way it took just one day for him to be repaired in the TV adaptation when he sustained similar damage in S2 and took what looked like weeks to return to working order.
I am glad Awdry continued writing stories after this one because when Thomas is repaired I. Time the fat controller scolds him, this is the thanks Thomas gets?
Never understood why they had Percy and Toby on a flat truck, while Duck and Thomas used their own power. Would've made more sense for all tank engines to be on a truck.
Before I found out Thomas was British I always thought they were from America. So when I heard they said big city I thought they were referring to New York City
I never thought they were referencing any real city in this episode, and I figured it was just made up - until I saw the original version. Plus, I even never thought myself that it was American. And it didn't surprise me too much at all when I learned it was British 'cause of how much I'd been hearing the accent as of and before then. And I even have a good British accent myself (I happen to be from California).
At this time Duck was the shunter at the big station (Tidmouth or Vicarstown) so I assume the engines just had to shunt their own trains like they did in between James the Red Engine and Troublesome Engines.
@@nimratsekhon8909 I guess it makes sense. But I've started to piece together that Toby was the most likely engine without an 'understudy' of sorts. Getting three small tank engines, two medium sized mixed traffic engines and two large mainline engines seems far more likely than getting a steam tram at the time this story takes place.
@@numberjacksoctonauts7138 Yes, but Toby worked on the Ffarquar Branchline, Duck was only a station pilot, and the big engines have shunted trains before, they just need to get out earlier. While Toby's service would require it's own engine.
Here’s how it probably went: Jinty filled in for Thomas, Pug must’ve for Percy, three big tender engines for Gordon Henry and James on the mainline, a smaller one for Edward on his branchline, and a shunter for Duck as the Tidmouth Station Pilot As for Toby, tram engines must’ve been becoming rare, and maybe things were changed where non tram engines could now use the Ffarquhar Quarry tramline so maybe Jinty and Pug both handled the work there
Before I found out Thomas was British I always thought they were from America. So when I heard they said big city I thought they were referring to New York City
Because Thomas failed to show what he said about his race with Bertie and crash into the buffer, i mean.. If your friends fell bcs of something, we'll sometimes laugh eventually
Pug’s Whistle Sound Is Henry’s But 2 Steps Lower Pitched Henry Himself Incorrectly Used The Same Whistle But Only In The Thirteenth Series Episode Henry’s Good Deeds
0.52 Jinty and Pug appear to have no faces, although it's difficult to tell side on. 2.15 Jinty is a girl's name... is the engine behind Thomas supposed to be female?!
I like Jinty and Pug, there used too be an LMS Kitson Pug Engine at Barrow Hill Roundhouse near Chesterfield in BR days, engine No 47000, as for Jinty, I've ridden on both 47357 and 47327 at Midland Railway, Butterley :)
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I like how Percy referenced knowing the engines previously, as they were most likely the ones listening to in the first part of 'Percy Takes the Plunge'.
“Nothing anywhere can compare with our Fat Controller’s engines!”
I believe we can all agree….
"They've read about us, but they don't think we're real!"
I love how self-referential the Railway Series is.
Mark Cabaniss to the point of self-insert of Awdry himself.
That's funny.
SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
Awdry was meta before it was cool
“They’ve read about us, but they don’t think we’re real”
Fourth wall break
Not just broken, they crashed through it!
@@parker-boy98 lol
Percy: "Shaaaaaave!"
Duck: "I would be grateful if you didn't remind me."
@@Charmaster04Percy said “Shame”
@@user-22744 I was joking about walls being broken. Although I don't think the scene I was referencing had happened yet, ironically.
Well these drawings of Thomas prove my theory! Thomas is an experimental cross between a E2 class and a Jinty class tank engine!
I will agree, he looks way more like a Jinty than an E2 in these illustrations
I also remember another locomotive that was a cross of two classes, but I can’t remember who.
Now I know, on the television series Gordon looks like a cross between a Gresely pacific and a Coronation pacific. When Gordon gets streamlined he uses the body cover of the Dutchess of Hamilton.
@nickelplatnerd gordon is not that but a a0 Pacific (a1 prototype)Henry's old shape is a a1 +Atlantic (failed a1 pacific)
Well to me he looks like if an lms dock tank with inside cylinders
why does Thomas in the book just crash into the buffers but in the tv series he crashes into the buffers down a hill and crash into a wall
I guess to make the crash look more dramatic like in Thomas, Terrence and the snow
@@MaminakaMrpaperbag I just thought that would happen in the tv series because the theme would be used 1 TIME
@@amtrak2026 And if Jinty and Pug appeared.
They adapted this?
@@parker-boy98 yes, the episode is called Thomas and the special letter, its in season 4
I think this is already my favorite story in the books.
So Oliver took the role of Jinty for the TV Adaptation.
Guess so.
Bill/Ben took the role of Pug
Okay
The image of Thomas crashing makes it look like Jinty pushed him.
Well, of course, he didn't.
I can't unsee that now..
Those engines from the other railway must be the ones from "Percy takes the plunge"
I can understand why the adaptation for this story was called "Thomas and the Special Letter". It focused more on Thomas than Fat Controller or any of his other engines.
And I don't mind that this story wasn't considered for Series 2 along with the rest of The 8 Famous Engine since it's fine as a standalone.
Thomas and the Special Letter is the TVS adaptation of the story.
I like Jinty and Pug, there used too be an LMS Kitson Pug Engine at Barrow Hill Roundhouse near Chesterfield in BR days, engine No. 47000, as for Jinty, I've ridden on both 47357 and 47327 at Midland Railway, Butterley :)
I think the reason why awdry added a part of thomas crashing to the buffers is for getting thomas a rebuilt to change the running board from sagged to streight but however awdry's attempt had failed but it was fixed on thomas comes to breakfast and was later finally given thomas a streight running board
I might have a theory that Thomas was rebuilt into an E4 but still keeps his E2 tank so I think he's a hybrid
The picture of the junction at the beginning was clearly a template used by Gunvor and Peter Edwards for the picture at the start of Stepney The Bluebell Engine.
Really? I never actually clearly knew that.
Yup I love when they reuse shots across the books. There is one of a station on thomas branch line that is used for in Percy Takes the Plunge, Thomas Comes to Breakfast, and Ghost Train
@@Mattrino101 I know the one you mean. That’s Ffarquhar as Percy is at “the top station” in PTTP.
@@barttheanorak yup there is a single line in the foreground and two lines off to the side near the signal box. I figured it was Ffarquar 😄
Mavis The Diesel Engine, Boco The Green Diesel, Bill and Ben the tank Engine twins and Donald and Douglas the Scottish Twin Engines are not introduced in this book yet.
“How can something be up when it’s down?”
And they blame HiT/Mattel for dumbing down the characters. LOL
Not understand an expression is different from not understanding how the railway they live on works.
Me: (To the Fat Controller when he scowled at Thomas before heading to the big city) Sir, don’t be too hard on Thomas.
1:29 Watch it, Percy!
If the railway series didn't get another story, The 8 famous engines would be the last book of the series
Good thing it wasn't, because otherwise we wouldn't have gotten to see any other female locomotives or even diesels OR even characters like Donald and Douglas, Bill and Ben, Diesel, Daisy, George, more of Rheneas, Stepney, BoCo, Oliver, Toad, Bulgy, Mavis, Rusty, Duncan, Duke, the Mountain Engines, Scruffey, the Spiteful Brake Van, Caroline, Nancy: a guard's daughter, Neil, Rex, Bert, Mike, Class 40, Bear, Spamcan, Talyllyn and Dolgoch, City of Truro, or Flying Scotsman, or episodes like Thomas Comes to Breakfast, one of Christopher Awdry's favorite episodes in the Railway Series.
@@arenjtumastens also not to mention Duck was barely developed at this point so if it ended right here we'd know all about everyone except Duck besides him having a hard working personality
@@LegendaryCaptain that is quite true enough. So good thing the next book after this one started off with focusing on Duck.
If only Jinty and Pug appeared on Thomas and the Special Letter.
Apparently Rev W Awdry was gonna make this the last book soooooo glad he didn't illustrator John T Kenney's first book love John's illustrations RIP John shame your eyesight faded and you have to stop after just six volumes and sorry he died only 61 in 1972
On the one hand, the TV series did a great job at making the damage Thomas sustained look believable. I refuse to believe the books that bashing into buffers would damage his front badly enough to jeopardize the London arrangements.
On the other hand, there’s no way it took just one day for him to be repaired in the TV adaptation when he sustained similar damage in S2 and took what looked like weeks to return to working order.
Mavis, BoCo, Bill, Ben, Donald, Oliver and Douglas paraded past.
It was probably because due to the cost and time constraint of building the other railway steam engines.
Luckily The Fat Controller didn’t scowled Thomas in the TV Series.
i love. This story
jinty and pug might be the other engines covered in trouble in the shed
I am glad Awdry continued writing stories after this one because when Thomas is repaired I. Time the fat controller scolds him, this is the thanks Thomas gets?
Never understood why they had Percy and Toby on a flat truck, while Duck and Thomas used their own power. Would've made more sense for all tank engines to be on a truck.
freezaplanet419 Percy and Toby were less powerful than Thomas and Duck.
Maybe they have smaller water tanks.
Tom Bricks But Thomas Also Had Small Water Tanks
Tank Engine 75 no his tank isn’t, he has extended side tanks.
I always wondered what that black stuff was in front of Thomas' buffers.
Sometimes I did too, but I knew right away later on that they were the buffers he crashed into.
Before I found out Thomas was British I always thought they were from America. So when I heard they said big city I thought they were referring to New York City
I never thought they were referencing any real city in this episode, and I figured it was just made up - until I saw the original version. Plus, I even never thought myself that it was American. And it didn't surprise me too much at all when I learned it was British 'cause of how much I'd been hearing the accent as of and before then. And I even have a good British accent myself (I happen to be from California).
I'm also from California
Interesting. My home is in Ventura County.
"Seven engines from the other railway..."
Okay, how do *seven* engines step in when *eight* engines are going to London? That's always baffled me.
At this time Duck was the shunter at the big station (Tidmouth or Vicarstown) so I assume the engines just had to shunt their own trains like they did in between James the Red Engine and Troublesome Engines.
@@nimratsekhon8909 I guess it makes sense. But I've started to piece together that Toby was the most likely engine without an 'understudy' of sorts. Getting three small tank engines, two medium sized mixed traffic engines and two large mainline engines seems far more likely than getting a steam tram at the time this story takes place.
@@numberjacksoctonauts7138 Yes, but Toby worked on the Ffarquar Branchline, Duck was only a station pilot, and the big engines have shunted trains before, they just need to get out earlier. While Toby's service would require it's own engine.
@@nimratsekhon8909 I guess so.
Here’s how it probably went:
Jinty filled in for Thomas, Pug must’ve for Percy, three big tender engines for Gordon Henry and James on the mainline, a smaller one for Edward on his branchline, and a shunter for Duck as the Tidmouth Station Pilot
As for Toby, tram engines must’ve been becoming rare, and maybe things were changed where non tram engines could now use the Ffarquhar Quarry tramline so maybe Jinty and Pug both handled the work there
I'd love to know what the other 5 engines are.
I still wonder where in England their "big city" is. Does anyone know?
I believe it's London
Before I found out Thomas was British I always thought they were from America. So when I heard they said big city I thought they were referring to New York City
York maybe? National Railway Museum perhaps?
Jinty Is Based On A London Midland And Scottish Railway LMS Fowler 3F 060T
In the LMS days, Jinty was replaced with Pug.
And this was supposed to be the finale to the series.
Jinty’s Whistle Sound Is Percy’s But Approximately 21 Semitones Step Lower In Pitch
Despite Not Appearing In The Television Series Jinty And Pug Were Given Television Series Esque Whistles In The BBC Audio Railway Stories
Pug Is Based On An LMS of Kitson’s 04 OST
I think that laughing face was a goof by the illustrator. I think he was supposed to look shocked but no one noticed 'till now.
I kind of wondered why he had that face. I thought he just thought the situation was comical.
Because Thomas failed to show what he said about his race with Bertie and crash into the buffer, i mean.. If your friends fell bcs of something, we'll sometimes laugh eventually
Pug’s Whistle Sound Is Henry’s But 2 Steps Lower Pitched Henry Himself Incorrectly Used The Same Whistle But Only In The Thirteenth Series Episode Henry’s Good Deeds
Gordon as craig
Henry as tweek
Jinty’s Role In The Fourth Series Episode Thomas And The Special Letter Was Replaced By Oliver
"The Fat Controller, whose name was Derek..." 🤣
Derek Topham Hatt?! Wow 😀
Jimmy the Jinty
Why is BR called the OTHER railway when technically the NWR is part of BR?
What if Jinty and Pug made a appearance in the tv series.
Gordon as craig
Henry as tweek
James clyde
Characters Introduced
Jinty
Pug
Jinty and Pug's Companions
I liked Duck better with his number eight, I use to wonder why he had that thousand number, I use to think it was the same one the famous visitor had.
5741 is the number that he had on the Great Western, as a member of the 57xx class. The original GWR livery was matched by the original GWR numberm
there was an actual 5741 but it was scrapped in 1958
Oliver The Western Engine is not introduced in this book yet
who mentioned Oliver ?
Thomas as stan
Jinty as kevin
Pity that Henrietta didn't go to England in The TV Series Adaptation.
Well that was understandable, due to tight budget they couldn't afford to make Jinty.
0.52 Jinty and Pug appear to have no faces, although it's difficult to tell side on. 2.15 Jinty is a girl's name... is the engine behind Thomas supposed to be female?!
No it's a Male and he is called jinty because that is the nike name of his locomotive class.
@@LMS5935 Where does it say that Jinty is male?
@@sirwelcome look at his face while he's laughing at him he's clearly male
@@LMS5935 That's not what I asked, and also, what the hell does that even mean?
@@LMS5935 Are you going to answer me?
This similar to Thomas and the Special Letter
Jake Mack Adaptation.
its because this is what its based on
Is jinty ob sodor
5:18 what
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I like Jinty and Pug, there used too be an LMS Kitson Pug Engine at Barrow Hill Roundhouse near Chesterfield in BR days, engine No 47000, as for Jinty, I've ridden on both 47357 and 47327 at Midland Railway, Butterley :)