Hahn and Williams have successfully expunged the ‘05 season from our memories with nearly two decades of “head-up-your-ass” baseball. Had they not been fired one could argue they were due to mistakenly win another world championship.
@@mikaelhaggard8031 Was he a slave? Did Jerry say, “You’ll never work in this business again”? I doubt Jerry would want that to get out if he tried to hamstring an employee like that. Nobody would want to work for his organization if that were true and got out. More likely, it was a cushy job with great benefits. He didn’t mind being the Fredo to Kenny’s “Moe Greene.”
The worst thing that could have happened is for Jerry to stumble into 7 championships under the absolute luckiest of circumstances. The White Sox and Bulls are big market teams that have not remotely been perennial contenders in decades due to their owner’s reprehensible apathy towards the franchises, the players, and the fans.
Yep. I can personally attest to his disdain for fans. I won some stupid prize that the marketing team cooked up some years back. I forget exactly, but the grand prize was: 4 free tickets to a home game, watch the game in Jerry Reinsdorf's box as well as meet him. When we got there, it was all disorganized and the marketing director was confused. She led myself, my wife and 2 friends of ours through the restricted areas that seemed to be underground at one point and I realized we were walking towards the field. Sure enough, we were led onto the field and we found ourselves standing at home plate, players doing pre game warmups, and the marketing girl frantically trying to figure out what was going on with, I guess, Jerry's access? She finally said, "ok, he's coming down to take an on field picture with you." We waited over 30 minutes. During that time I actually exchanged pleasantries with John Danks and Scott Downs as they were just doing their thing before the game, which was pretty cool. Finally, here comes the man himself. Short, squat and with a scowl on his face, he walked over to us and in an obtuse way, asked the marketing director, "So, where are these people?" I was standing to his left when he asked her. It was pretty frickin obvious. I was in my late 30's at the time so I thought I would at least tell him how much I appreciated what he has done for the fans by bringing multiple NBA championships to the city as well as our coveted 2005 season for MLB. Obviously there is much to be debated there, but I was face to face with him and I thought it was a nice thing to say. As an owner, I thought he would at least look me in the eye and say, "Well thank you for being a loyal Chicago fan and it's nice to meet you." Nope. Didn't even look me in the eye. Shook his head and kind of said "er, um yeah th, thanks ok lets take this picture." Took a few pictures he shook our hands, and off he went. Oh, and as far as sitting in his box? Yeah, the marketing director knew nothing of it. The silver lining was being on the field, talking with a couple players and getting free tickets. Seats were decent. But I'll be honest, that was the moment that I could personally confirm that Reinsdorf doesn't give two fucks about the fan base. It's hard to remain a Sox fan these days. I digress....
Life long fan since a kid. Used to attend games in the teens to single digits as this became a shhh show. Jerry is clueless. I aint been to a game since renteria. Jerry bringing in getz puts the stamp on me no longer spending a dime on this shhh show.
I used to go to 25+ Sox games a year. Haven't been to a game since 2018. I took up other hobbies and interests since then. Right now, I've become a die hard dirt track racing fan and I go to the dirt track every single Saturday night. I've had more fun doing that than attending any Sox game. I don't even really pay attention to the Sox anymore except when I see or read about stories like this. I've already had my Sox fix earlier in my life. It's over for me now. Edit: Don't get me wrong. I still represent the Sox by wearing t-shirts and hats and I still have a White Sox shrine in my man cave with all kinds of cool memorabilia that I'll never take down. The White Sox will always hold a very special place in my heart.
The last 2nd baseman to lead the team was TLR. Ozzie was a SS and a bad manager with great pitching. Retired catchers makes more sense. AJ and TLR would light a fire under the players.
Jerry is the owner of a rotten club house.....unmotivated millionaires.... Moncada has wasted his career ~ The Sox tapped into maybe 15% of his potential.
No Moncada has wasted his own career in Chicago. Players are supposed to play and motivate themselves. Cause the Sox payed him to early. You don’t pay players on potential. Williams and Hahn both know that. You can’t pay Manny 20 million more who’s an All Star but you pay Moncada 75 to 100 million dollars. Who’s a pretender. Not a wise business decision.
this hit me in the feels, I went to Moncada's White Sox debut in Chicago. My brother had taken me. Got some photos and videos if you want me to upload them? better times.. haha
We all love Burger and he's having a good stretch for Miami but let's remember he only hit .214 and when he was traded he had become an auto strikeout with the occasional HR. That's not what the Sox need and don't forget he's an absolute butcher at 3rd base defensively
@@jesusshuttlesworth8972 he was a part time player who hit 25 hr, that is more then the rest of the infield combined. He was also a guy that ran out to first base, unlike guys like Moncada. I'll take a guy who wants to play, then 1/2 the rest on this team.
Burger had the top max velocity and was tied with Ohtani in hard hit%. This after missing three full consecutive years of key development time. This trade is going to look really bad in a couple of years
It's the owner of the White Sox. He needs to sell the team and let a new ownership group take over. It's the owner. And Ken Rosenthal could very well be right about a Jon Daniels hire.
What is so shocking about this move? The next people to lose their job is the strength and conditioning coach and batting coach with the pitching coach in the hole.
As a 65 years of being a white sox fan, i am so sick of the front office ineptitude. On the other hand, the players need to do their job. All of it, recently. due to Reinsdorf.
As much as the players are to blame, have you seen the white sox roster over the past 10 or so years? They've made 3 major free agent signings in my lifetime, Liam Hendericks, Yasmani Grandal, and Andrew Benintendi, none of them turned out to be great signings. They made trades to acquire top young talent in Eloy Jimenez, Yoan Moncada, Lucas Giolitto, Dylan Cease, Reynaldo Lopez, and Michael Kopech, of which, only 1 has panned out to be above average in the major leagues over the course of a full season. They flipped prospects they drafted like Fernando Tatis Jr, and Marcus Semien for nothing in return. They had great drafts, getting guys like Luis Robert, Carlos Rodon, Tim Anderson, Chris Sale, and Andrew Vaugn, and we cant seem to keep them once they enter their prime, or we keep them and the front office is unable to build a team around them. They've had 3 managers in a 4 year span, in the middle of trying to contend. demonstrating they have no clue what they are doing when it comes to hiring managers. The front office has consistently made the wrong move in every situation that came up. They simply couldn't construct a baseball team that could win. If you make one or two mistakes in the front office, it might be able to work itself out, but this front office couldnt do anything right.
I'M TIRED OF THIS JERRY REINDORF IS LOYAL TO HIS EMPLOYEE'S NARRATIVE. HE WASN'T LOYAL TO PHIL JACKSON, MICHAEL JORDAN, OR OZZIE GUILLÉN 3 GUYS WHO BROUGHT CHAMPIONSHIPS
This horrible organization.we call the Chicago White Sox. They can’t do anything right. I sick of this. It’s the same every season empty promises. Jerry has own the Sox for 40 years and we can count on one hand the successful seasons we’ve had. I’m talking about Championships and playoff wins. I was born in Canaryville / Bridgeport area and loyal Sox fan. This organization has no plan or balance. Other than acting like Minor League organization in a major market. Let me be the GM if they name Chris Getz GM. I hate to say this I may become Cubs fan. They have more going for then than Sox do at this point. It pains me to say that but it’s the truth. This is absolutely joke. Everything of the White Sox smells like hot trash mess. This organization should be like the Dodgers, Cardinals and Yankees or he’ll even like the Rays. Jerry is cheap, cheap, cheap. They blame fans. Why me the fan should spend my hard earned money to sit in a trash stadium to watch trash team. Jerry either hire real baseball guys from a winning organization to run the White Sox or sell the White Sox. THE REAL SOX FANS ARE SICK OF YOU. Field a winning team capable winning Championships we will come. THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE!
The hiring of Reinsdorf's best buddy, over-the-mound fossil Tony LaRussa in 2022 as manager in 2022 started this slide of the same team that won the AL central in 2021.
This is the begining of major front office shake ups and lets face it it looks bad, so far. Now Dayton Moore Presiding over a Chris Getz Front Office hmmm
His qualification is that Reinsdorf likes him , that's it. And Andrew Vaughn has not been good. He had 16 hr and less than 60 RBI . Those are SS numbers.
I was thinking the same thing. Like who cares what the hell Baseball America says? Who died and made them the judge of the minor league rankings? Rankings mean nothing anyway. You have no idea what you've got until you let the kids come up and play.
White Sox farm only rises when they deplete the major league squad to trade for prospects. Draft+development+International signings almost never bump up the Sox's rankings. That's a point to whoever negotiates the trades, not Chris Gets.
KC fan here.. Have fun with Dayton Moore.. He's why the Royals farm has been so terrible for 10 years now and why they've had 5-6 years of terrible baseball now with no immediate hope
Watching the white sox over the past few years has been nothing but one big disappointment after another.they play like a team that can not even understand the fundamentals of the game,who's to blame ,players that don't want to perform management that doesn't want to compete.or all the above.
Reinsdorf will forever be a terrible owner and decision maker. This is why the whitesox will forever suck until Reinsdorf sell or step down. Grew uo on the Southside but glad i cheered for those guys up North. (They are frustrating as well, but in a better position than the Sox)
Kenny Williams was an absurd hire. He made the postseason just 5 times since 2000. One WS win (very nice, admittedly) in 2004 but otherwise a disaster on a solidly mid-market team w a good payroll. Just three dismal postseason appearances in the last 18 years.
It’s good for baseball that big market teams like the White Sox don’t automatically dominate their divisions, but that’s no consolation for White Sox fans.
The White Sox don't do "sexy" hires AJ, who should know that better than most. That team is as dull as their uniform colors, black, white and gray. That's about as dull as you can get. And that's the Chicago White Sox. Always have been, always will be. Even when they win, they're still the 2nd most attractive team in Chicago. The Cubs are HBO, the White Sox are Freevee.
This is off topic, but I don't live in the U.S.; so when I hear someone say Chicago is a great city, my mind goes to the amount of people who have been shot in Chicago during the time it took for me to write this sentence. I hear stats saying up to 50 people in Chicago are shot over the course of a weekend. That seems a bit excessive as an outsider. I have no doubt that Chicago is lovely, but how can that be when citizens are getting shot as if they're in a war zone? The hell is going on? Do the rich live in a gated community, South Africa-style?
It's a country that cares more about the rights of gun owners than my right to live. The US Government wants it's people to live in fear, by any means necessary. Who do you think is arming these people? And if you think "equality" exists in America, think again. We have a 2 tiered "justice system" and tax system that apply the rules differently based on what your last name is and how much money you have (or can hide).
The per capital murder rate isn't as high as many other cities. It's also a great city for tourists or if you aren't poor. Unfortunately, many of the poorest neighborhoods where violence is concentrated don't have good economic or educational opportunities. I'm not justifying the situation people living in those neighborhoods are in, but many people have great experiences, which is why they talk it up. It's also mentioned as a great city in sports conversations because the fans are passionate and deeply loyal.
Chicago has not been in the Top 10 cities with highest murder rates during the past ten years. St. Louis and Baltimore are #1 and #2 for most murders. Here in Chicago, we have a few bad neighborhoods on the far south side and west sides where no tourists would even think to venture. The main tourist corridor is downtown which is far away from these bad neighborhoods. The shootings are typically gang related. Chicago hosted a record 52M tourists in 2018 before COVID and nothing happened to any of them. Last year, we hosted 41M tourists and nothing happened to any of them. During the 1990s, German tourists were routinely killed in Miami for driving off the wrong exit ramp into bad neighborhoods outside the airport. It was so bad that Germany issued a "NO TRAVEL," warning to their citizens to avoid Miami. Chicago has never been on any countries' do not travel advisory list.
@@Str8Maddenessbros blaming gun owners not the criminals in low income areas. Yet Illinois has the strictest gun laws out there. Blame the criminals in low incomes areas for shooting up their own communities.
Rosenthal and AJ haven't been a GM or manager either, now what. I'll take the word of a Hall of Fame manager or a World Series manager like Maddon over clowns anyday. I don't like the Burger trade either so KW must have known he was on the way out. He had authority to trade with Marlins and Yanks per Kaplan's video so what's the surprise . It's great JR finally pulled the plug on the chaos, AJ is right about that.
Maddon knows how to evaluate players. The Cubs couldn't do that for over 100 years. He could find the right manager to lead a team from the dugout. None of the media analyst could.
Hahn and Williams have successfully expunged the ‘05 season from our memories with nearly two decades of “head-up-your-ass” baseball.
Had they not been fired one could argue they were due to mistakenly win another world championship.
Nobody should feel bad about Hahn and Williams losing their jobs. They have been way overpaid for decades.
I wouldn't say I feel bad, that being said, I'm honest enough to know that Rick Hahn never got a fair shake.
@@chi-townkakarot6582If he didn’t get a fair shake, he should have left a long time ago.
@@jorgejohnson451 apparently he tried and JR refused to let him go.
@@chi-townkakarot6582 it's coming out now that Kenny Williams was still calling a lot of the shots up until the end. Hahn was just taking the heat.
@@mikaelhaggard8031 Was he a slave? Did Jerry say, “You’ll never work in this business again”?
I doubt Jerry would want that to get out if he tried to hamstring an employee like that. Nobody would want to work for his organization if that were true and got out. More likely, it was a cushy job with great benefits. He didn’t mind being the Fredo to Kenny’s “Moe Greene.”
The Lance Lynn comment said it all. Thank you.
George Costanza would be a better hire.
Someone should see if he’s available.
He would at least change the uniforms
Hire this man!!
He might institute a good nap policy too.
The worst thing that could have happened is for Jerry to stumble into 7 championships under the absolute luckiest of circumstances. The White Sox and Bulls are big market teams that have not remotely been perennial contenders in decades due to their owner’s reprehensible apathy towards the franchises, the players, and the fans.
Yep. I can personally attest to his disdain for fans. I won some stupid prize that the marketing team cooked up some years back. I forget exactly, but the grand prize was: 4 free tickets to a home game, watch the game in Jerry Reinsdorf's box as well as meet him. When we got there, it was all disorganized and the marketing director was confused. She led myself, my wife and 2 friends of ours through the restricted areas that seemed to be underground at one point and I realized we were walking towards the field. Sure enough, we were led onto the field and we found ourselves standing at home plate, players doing pre game warmups, and the marketing girl frantically trying to figure out what was going on with, I guess, Jerry's access? She finally said, "ok, he's coming down to take an on field picture with you." We waited over 30 minutes. During that time I actually exchanged pleasantries with John Danks and Scott Downs as they were just doing their thing before the game, which was pretty cool.
Finally, here comes the man himself. Short, squat and with a scowl on his face, he walked over to us and in an obtuse way, asked the marketing director, "So, where are these people?" I was standing to his left when he asked her. It was pretty frickin obvious. I was in my late 30's at the time so I thought I would at least tell him how much I appreciated what he has done for the fans by bringing multiple NBA championships to the city as well as our coveted 2005 season for MLB. Obviously there is much to be debated there, but I was face to face with him and I thought it was a nice thing to say. As an owner, I thought he would at least look me in the eye and say, "Well thank you for being a loyal Chicago fan and it's nice to meet you." Nope. Didn't even look me in the eye. Shook his head and kind of said "er, um yeah th, thanks ok lets take this picture." Took a few pictures he shook our hands, and off he went.
Oh, and as far as sitting in his box? Yeah, the marketing director knew nothing of it. The silver lining was being on the field, talking with a couple players and getting free tickets. Seats were decent. But I'll be honest, that was the moment that I could personally confirm that Reinsdorf doesn't give two fucks about the fan base. It's hard to remain a Sox fan these days. I digress....
Reinsdorf should fire himself.
Trade himself to the Cubs.
Jerry needs to be quickly reunited with his late wife.
Life long fan since a kid. Used to attend games in the teens to single digits as this became a shhh show. Jerry is clueless. I aint been to a game since renteria. Jerry bringing in getz puts the stamp on me no longer spending a dime on this shhh show.
I used to go to 25+ Sox games a year. Haven't been to a game since 2018. I took up other hobbies and interests since then. Right now, I've become a die hard dirt track racing fan and I go to the dirt track every single Saturday night. I've had more fun doing that than attending any Sox game. I don't even really pay attention to the Sox anymore except when I see or read about stories like this. I've already had my Sox fix earlier in my life. It's over for me now.
Edit: Don't get me wrong. I still represent the Sox by wearing t-shirts and hats and I still have a White Sox shrine in my man cave with all kinds of cool memorabilia that I'll never take down. The White Sox will always hold a very special place in my heart.
@@Champwsox05 we'll always have 2005. Guess that's it.
@@Champwsox05I feel you. Life long Mets fan here. I haven't watched all year or gone since 2019. It's not worth my time.
If Jerry hires Getz I’ll lose my mind
Looks like your mind is lost
The last 2nd baseman to lead the team was TLR. Ozzie was a SS and a bad manager with great pitching. Retired catchers makes more sense. AJ and TLR would light a fire under the players.
@@limofranky1TLR?! 😂😂😂
@@jimwerther Ask Fidel and the Marlins. Look at his managerial career stats HOF material no ! His mouth is the TA of the latin community.
@@jimwerther Well lets call it a draw and let AJ manage and lite some fires under players that are underperforming. Thats always been the big problem.
Reinsdorf's new hiring says it all. Hopefully, he isn't allowed to infect the Bears process of a new stadium.
Ken Rosenthal without his signature bow ties are very rare.
Jerry is the owner of a rotten club house.....unmotivated millionaires.... Moncada has wasted his career ~ The Sox tapped into maybe 15% of his potential.
No Moncada has wasted his own career in Chicago. Players are supposed to play and motivate themselves. Cause the Sox payed him to early. You don’t pay players on potential. Williams and Hahn both know that. You can’t pay Manny 20 million more who’s an All Star but you pay Moncada 75 to 100 million dollars. Who’s a pretender. Not a wise business decision.
this hit me in the feels, I went to Moncada's White Sox debut in Chicago. My brother had taken me. Got some photos and videos if you want me to upload them? better times.. haha
Nah he keeps getting hurt. That's his problem. Same with Eloy. Can't stay healthy
Still mad about the Burger trade... he is hitting 400 for Miami.
You're upset that Burger is historically lucky in 79 PA for Miami, with a .444 BABIP?
You must be upset a lot.
@@johnstrawb3521the white sox suck and he was one of maybe 3 players who didnt suck
We all love Burger and he's having a good stretch for Miami but let's remember he only hit .214 and when he was traded he had become an auto strikeout with the occasional HR. That's not what the Sox need and don't forget he's an absolute butcher at 3rd base defensively
@@jesusshuttlesworth8972 he was a part time player who hit 25 hr, that is more then the rest of the infield combined. He was also a guy that ran out to first base, unlike guys like Moncada. I'll take a guy who wants to play, then 1/2 the rest on this team.
Burger had the top max velocity and was tied with Ohtani in hard hit%. This after missing three full consecutive years of key development time. This trade is going to look really bad in a couple of years
It's the owner of the White Sox. He needs to sell the team and let a new ownership group take over. It's the owner. And Ken Rosenthal could very well be right about a Jon Daniels hire.
What is so shocking about this move? The next people to lose their job is the strength and conditioning coach and batting coach with the pitching coach in the hole.
Hopefully, there will be an announcement soon saying that Jerry is selling both franchises……..so they can become relevant again. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
We can never underestimate Jerry Reinsdorf's stupidity. I hope he is quickly reunited with his late wife.
2024 Royal white Sox
As a 65 years of being a white sox fan, i am so sick of the front office ineptitude. On the other hand, the players need to do their job. All of it, recently. due to Reinsdorf.
As much as the players are to blame, have you seen the white sox roster over the past 10 or so years? They've made 3 major free agent signings in my lifetime, Liam Hendericks, Yasmani Grandal, and Andrew Benintendi, none of them turned out to be great signings.
They made trades to acquire top young talent in Eloy Jimenez, Yoan Moncada, Lucas Giolitto, Dylan Cease, Reynaldo Lopez, and Michael Kopech, of which, only 1 has panned out to be above average in the major leagues over the course of a full season.
They flipped prospects they drafted like Fernando Tatis Jr, and Marcus Semien for nothing in return.
They had great drafts, getting guys like Luis Robert, Carlos Rodon, Tim Anderson, Chris Sale, and Andrew Vaugn, and we cant seem to keep them once they enter their prime, or we keep them and the front office is unable to build a team around them.
They've had 3 managers in a 4 year span, in the middle of trying to contend. demonstrating they have no clue what they are doing when it comes to hiring managers.
The front office has consistently made the wrong move in every situation that came up. They simply couldn't construct a baseball team that could win. If you make one or two mistakes in the front office, it might be able to work itself out, but this front office couldnt do anything right.
As a fan since 1964 all the other Sox owners haven't done much either to field a consistant winning team
Getting rid of Hahn and Williams was long over due.
They should be trying to get Click....just not Getz.
Long overdue................need to revamp and get serious.....start getting bruce bochy style manager
I'M TIRED OF THIS JERRY REINDORF IS LOYAL TO HIS EMPLOYEE'S NARRATIVE. HE WASN'T LOYAL TO PHIL JACKSON, MICHAEL JORDAN, OR OZZIE GUILLÉN 3 GUYS WHO BROUGHT CHAMPIONSHIPS
Right!!! The ONLY people he should of been loyal too… HE WASN’T!!!!!!
This horrible organization.we call the Chicago White Sox. They can’t do anything right. I sick of this. It’s the same every season empty promises. Jerry has own the Sox for 40 years and we can count on one hand the successful seasons we’ve had. I’m talking about Championships and playoff wins. I was born in Canaryville / Bridgeport area and loyal Sox fan. This organization has no plan or balance. Other than acting like Minor League organization in a major market. Let me be the GM if they name Chris Getz GM. I hate to say this I may become Cubs fan. They have more going for then than Sox do at this point. It pains me to say that but it’s the truth. This is absolutely joke. Everything of the White Sox smells like hot trash mess. This organization should be like the Dodgers, Cardinals and Yankees or he’ll even like the Rays. Jerry is cheap, cheap, cheap. They blame fans. Why me the fan should spend my hard earned money to sit in a trash stadium to watch trash team. Jerry either hire real baseball guys from a winning organization to run the White Sox or sell the White Sox. THE REAL SOX FANS ARE SICK OF YOU. Field a winning team capable winning Championships we will come. THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE!
Word
The White Sox should see what Theo is up to.
He's not going to be that single person in charge
They need to hire Mike Rizzo. He’s a Chicago guy and proven.
I say give getz a change. Who knows he may make good moves.
The hiring of Reinsdorf's best buddy, over-the-mound fossil Tony LaRussa in 2022 as manager in 2022 started this slide of the same team that won the AL central in 2021.
Tony was the manager in ‘21. Not the right guy, but in hindsight, I’m impressed he got this group a division title
TLR was the only guy to actually accomplish anything with this team.
Even a lot of those top picks or top talents they have on the MLB roster have been mostly disappointing or have stalled in development.
DON’T DO GETZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩
The beginning of Jerry selling the team
Theo epstein would be a good hire right now
Count your days jerry
This is the begining of major front office shake ups and lets face it it looks bad, so far. Now Dayton Moore Presiding over a Chris Getz Front Office hmmm
Never liked how he talked about Frank Thomas. Glad his ass is outta there!
if they hire Getz or anybody internal, and keep Grifol….this will all be for nothing. literally nothing will change
If we do a bad job at our jobs we get fired too. Them boys are fine.
The owner needs to sell the team,just like the hated Cubs
As a Guardians fan I love this hire
His qualification is that Reinsdorf likes him , that's it. And Andrew Vaughn has not been good. He had 16 hr and less than 60 RBI . Those are SS numbers.
2b numbers*
He hasn't exactly had a lot of baserunners on base ahead of him in the lineup either.
It was over for the White Sox back when they hired Tony Larussa's old ass to coach this team. That was such a stupid decision.
Meanwhile Fangraphs ranks the White Sox #11 among all farm systems---right with the Mets at #10 and just 3 spots behind the Orioles.
Cool we were top 3 a few years ago and look how that turned out
I was thinking the same thing. Like who cares what the hell Baseball America says? Who died and made them the judge of the minor league rankings? Rankings mean nothing anyway. You have no idea what you've got until you let the kids come up and play.
White Sox farm only rises when they deplete the major league squad to trade for prospects. Draft+development+International signings almost never bump up the Sox's rankings.
That's a point to whoever negotiates the trades, not Chris Gets.
Moncada is overrated from what I've seen, he's on the IR for weeks if he gets a hangnail, trade him ASAP...
KC fan here.. Have fun with Dayton Moore.. He's why the Royals farm has been so terrible for 10 years now and why they've had 5-6 years of terrible baseball now with no immediate hope
You are correct, why pick a career loser. Makes no sense.
Watching the white sox over the past few years has been nothing but one big disappointment after another.they play like a team that can not even understand the fundamentals of the game,who's to blame ,players that don't want to perform management that doesn't want to compete.or all the above.
As a Cub fan, I never realized what kind of a shit show this was. Reminds of the 80's to 90's Blackhawks with Bob Pulford.
Reinsdorf will forever be a terrible owner and decision maker. This is why the whitesox will forever suck until Reinsdorf sell or step down. Grew uo on the Southside but glad i cheered for those guys up North. (They are frustrating as well, but in a better position than the Sox)
Chris Getz was a bum!!!
IS
@@DerbyKnowledge93I thought he died. 😂
Kenny Williams was an absurd hire. He made the postseason just 5 times since 2000. One WS win (very nice, admittedly) in 2004 but otherwise a disaster on a solidly mid-market team w a good payroll. Just three dismal postseason appearances in the last 18 years.
2005 actually
That’s the story of Jerry Reinsdorf ownership of the White Sox for the past 40 yrs. He’s supposed to be a baseball guy. The word of the day CHEAP!
It’s good for baseball that big market teams like the White Sox don’t automatically dominate their divisions, but that’s no consolation for White Sox fans.
But, they are not really a big market team because they do not have the following.
@@mrlaw711They did. But then Jerry showed up.
Chicago is not a great city, especially the south side
The White Sox don't do "sexy" hires AJ, who should know that better than most. That team is as dull as their uniform colors, black, white and gray. That's about as dull as you can get. And that's the Chicago White Sox. Always have been, always will be. Even when they win, they're still the 2nd most attractive team in Chicago. The Cubs are HBO, the White Sox are Freevee.
I was gonna watch, but the word "unpack" is cringe AF.
This is off topic, but I don't live in the U.S.; so when I hear someone say Chicago is a great city, my mind goes to the amount of people who have been shot in Chicago during the time it took for me to write this sentence. I hear stats saying up to 50 people in Chicago are shot over the course of a weekend. That seems a bit excessive as an outsider. I have no doubt that Chicago is lovely, but how can that be when citizens are getting shot as if they're in a war zone? The hell is going on? Do the rich live in a gated community, South Africa-style?
It's a country that cares more about the rights of gun owners than my right to live. The US Government wants it's people to live in fear, by any means necessary. Who do you think is arming these people? And if you think "equality" exists in America, think again. We have a 2 tiered "justice system" and tax system that apply the rules differently based on what your last name is and how much money you have (or can hide).
The per capital murder rate isn't as high as many other cities. It's also a great city for tourists or if you aren't poor. Unfortunately, many of the poorest neighborhoods where violence is concentrated don't have good economic or educational opportunities. I'm not justifying the situation people living in those neighborhoods are in, but many people have great experiences, which is why they talk it up. It's also mentioned as a great city in sports conversations because the fans are passionate and deeply loyal.
Chicago has not been in the Top 10 cities with highest murder rates during the past ten years. St. Louis and Baltimore are #1 and #2 for most murders. Here in Chicago, we have a few bad neighborhoods on the far south side and west sides where no tourists would even think to venture. The main tourist corridor is downtown which is far away from these bad neighborhoods. The shootings are typically gang related. Chicago hosted a record 52M tourists in 2018 before COVID and nothing happened to any of them. Last year, we hosted 41M tourists and nothing happened to any of them. During the 1990s, German tourists were routinely killed in Miami for driving off the wrong exit ramp into bad neighborhoods outside the airport. It was so bad that Germany issued a "NO TRAVEL," warning to their citizens to avoid Miami. Chicago has never been on any countries' do not travel advisory list.
@@Str8Maddenessbros blaming gun owners not the criminals in low income areas. Yet Illinois has the strictest gun laws out there. Blame the criminals in low incomes areas for shooting up their own communities.
Rosenthal and AJ haven't been a GM or manager either, now what. I'll take the word of a Hall of Fame manager or a World Series manager like Maddon over clowns anyday. I don't like the Burger trade either so KW must have known he was on the way out. He had authority to trade with Marlins and Yanks per Kaplan's video so what's the surprise . It's great JR finally pulled the plug on the chaos, AJ is right about that.
what the hell does maddon know
That you reinsdorf😂?
@@joem5002 Definitely more than you do. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Maddon#Coaching/managerial_career
Ok but what does Maddon have to do with it
Maddon knows how to evaluate players. The Cubs couldn't do that for over 100 years. He could find the right manager to lead a team from the dugout. None of the media analyst could.
Very few people care about the White Sox. Bad location, poorly designed stadium, and they should consider moving.
I spot a Cub fan
Shocking?!?
I like AJ and imma cubs fan why can't Ozzie be the manager and AJ as bench coach