I dare you to try incorporating either a resonator guitar or a 5-string banjo into a metal production-just for the challenge of it! If it works, it will blow everyone's mind. If it doesn't work, at least we'll all have a good laugh.
I actually liked the Hollow Body better. Not to say it is objectively better, just something about the tone was more attractive to me. I should note though i'm not really an avid metal listener.
agreed, the hollow sounded better to me, it sounded more like a classic rock tone. And what Glenn described as more sludgy meant more dynamic to my ears, still not my choice of guitar I just prefer a less aggressive tone.
shatley123 It's more of a warmer Classic Rock tone to me. I would never use my hollow body for really heavy metal tones, mabey with low gain to medium gain for some kurt rosenwinkle-ish distortion tones, but I mainly use my 8 string ibanez and esp for metal tones.
@@MR_MIRTH Cinder bRock! Metal is like the least pickup picky genre though, (aside from maybe punk) theres so much room for tone shaping with types of distortion and eq and little purist oppinions on the gear as long as it sound good together
if you can play metal on an acoustic guitar and get it to project and be clear then actually you've got a rock solid technique that will translate very well to electric
Working with what you have and making what you have work is a great skill to have. If you ever make the transition to electric guitar, it will likely make the transition easier as electric guitars are typically easier to play (lower action, better access to upper frets).
I feel like the approach here is a little misguided. I don't think we should be looking at "How does the riff I wrote on my Superstrat sound on another guitar" but rather "how can I take advantage of the different character of this guitar to make something unique?". For this video, a neck pickup only hollowbody guitar doesn't really have the bite for low quick chugs like in the example riff to sit well imo. But playing something sludgey and doomy as you said, I could see this guitar being the winner. Maybe add a second comparison where you look at what your thoughts were after round one and say "ok lets play to that strength and see what happens". I realize that the way you produce these would make that a pretty massive undertaking to add, but I think it'd be valuable. Just my 2¢, love what you do!
I was thinking along similar lines in that the neck-only six-string actually brought out a character in the open, chordy parts that wouldn't normally be there with that kind of tone. You're definitely right that tight palm-muting isn't gonna work the same on that kind of instrument, but for more harmonically intricate riffs it actually opens up whole new possibilities.
I think the problem with the hollowbody's tone is mostly that you chose a model with only a neck pickup and the fact that you used flatwounds. Roundwound strings and a bridge pickup would have sounded better for a metal tone. I do however agree that the lead tone was pretty badass, although it was pretty noisey
That kind of guitar needs 13 flats they were using 11 flats. With 13 flats, it even works for rhythm although ice is needed between songs if not de-tuned.
Holy shit those flatwounds sound way better than I expected. On a guitar with some higher output pups, I could see that sounding awesome for some fuzzy stoner/sludge sounds. I use flats on my main bass no idea why I've never thought to try them on guitar.
If you play a lot of cleans, they give a real nice thick vintage feel to them, especially if using swung 8th notes and when you play 7th and 9th chords. Any guitar tone before approximately mid 60s were flatwounds.
I concur. A great example is the soundchips from back on the Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis. There are songs written and played originally on that sound chip that sound metal to my ears and if you translate it onto guitars/bass/drums, it definitely sounds metal!
All I learned is that when your guitarist is an absolute beast, you can get amazing tones from just about any instrument (except maybe an air guitar... which is too low output for any rig 😄)
Ken Bennett Thats common for some Jazz guitars. It's because in Jazz they most often use warm sounds with more bass on the EQ so often Jazz guitar players will only use the neck pickup hence why some don't have a bridge pickup
Got a semi hollow very thin hofner 4 years ago or something, still love how it plays and sounds. Playing very rough riffs, grunge and metal on it. Added the Fender Starcaster to the collection as well.
C0nnie Actually either one works. Its more how you play than what (model of guitar) you play. Either works fine. Just be aware that you will have a feed back issue.
I own a hollowbody, and it sounds AMAZING when you run it through a fuzz pedal. Just make sure your muting is on point, or it'll fuckin levitate from feedback
I loved the jazz guitar, especially in those chords halfway , that guitar to me had originality that made it stand out from what can otherwise get to be a cliched generic tone that to be 'too many guitarist' seem content with these days.
I liked that closed-in dark sound on the rhythm, too. I preferred the tone of the 7-string on the lead however. Total opposite of Glenn. :) I'm not really a metal guy though.
My ears tend to prick up to something that sounds different to what everyone else sounds like. Its like some singers that make it big. It's not because their voice is better than other singers , its because its distinctive / unique. .., I find guitar tones and songs in general in the same vein. I like Metal, but i like many other genres also . What I don't like is artists trying to clone themselves to a genre by doing what everyone else is doing like its a formula , or a rule they must adhere to , I find that really boring..., even if they are nowhere near as talented as the clone generic band, i'd prefer the unique band to listen to any day.
I seriously think this sounds unique and somewhat better than your usual video. Sometimes I get sick of hearing metal guitar tone that is too saturated, too tight and too perfect. I think they have the place in metal, a little imperfection makes some nuance
one thing I dont like that some people, mostly the beginners to guitar, take away from these videos is that in order to have a "metal" tone, is that you need a certain type of guitar to achieve a "metal" tone. I'm not saying you're doing something wrong, just that some people take the wrong things away from these videos. I'm not criticizing or being a douche, I'm just observing what some people think
I agree man. I play a gretsch mostly blues and jazz and ambient post rock. But if i want I can easily get a metal tone out of my gretsch sometimes I think it sounds better than my jackson and I play it with flatwounds. Pretty crazy how versatile this guitar can be. Hell I've even played drop c on an acoustic before and sounded great. Please don't tell anyone I did that though it's just blasphemy 😀
True, but I think all you need to achieve metal is not really based on the guitar, more is based on the distortion pedals. Obviously, metal has it tricks sometimes, such as making great melodies. Anyways, you could have a crappie guitar, as long as that amp and distortion pedals are on fleek, people won't notice the difference. Plus, I dont think the sound of metal should be the foundation of how good the guitar sounds. For example, most people test their acoustic guitars by playing classical songs, to see if the guitar sounds beautiful or how it feels. I think the foundation of electric guitars, should be how clear they sound, and how you dont get interference.
Actually, as someone who wants to learn, but knows next to nothing, I really didn't think the kind of guitar mattered. I thought any electric could be used for metal as long as it could be distorted.
I have a Höfner HI-459 which is a fully hollowbody guitar. I find that it does work extremely well for hard rock and heavy metal music. This came as a shock to me when I was messing around one day.
You’re channel fucking rocks man. It’s obvious you do your homework and I appreciate it. Other channels should look up to this one as an example of consistently providing value
You can certainly play prog and hard rock. Alex Lifeson played a ES355* semi-hollow on all of the great early Rush stuff. Steve Howe played an ES-175 and ES-345 on most Yes records. I know this is hard rock but Pete Townshend recorded Who's Next with a Gretsch Chet Atkins. I love the tone of semi/fully hollow guitars in rock, prog, and metal. They certainly bring some great tones to table. I'd love to see more heavy bands incorporating them into their music. Rock on, Glenn! Edit: Hollowbody 7 string?! Awesome.
Greig Williamson right. I always think these videos are dumb. you can play anything with any guitar. i've plugged in an electric acoustic and distorted the shit out of it.
I have a Gretsch electromatic and I play master of puppets with it. It doesn't sound bad at all. It also adds something to a mix when mixed in with a solidbody.
Jim Root has always used a Fender in Slipknot which is kinda awesome. His playing was always super creative and edgy, let alone his choice of gear for metal.
The Epiphone Casino is one of the few semi-acoustic guitars that I definitely would recommend for hard rock and heavy metal music, albeit as a rhythm guitar, not as a lead guitar. Since semi-acoustic guitars are generally better as rhythm guitars in hard rock and heavy metal, based on my observation. For the best possible results, I would recommend playing as far away from the amplifier as possible. Or use ƒ-hole plugs to minimise feedback.
In a studio setting it's pretty easy to do, but live is tough. I used to occasionally use a Gretsch 5120, but it requires some pretty extreme noise suppressor settings to keep the feedback manageable under high gain.
You know what? I think they work! Since a lot of modern metal chord progressions are very similar to jazz it really seems to fit well. I like this! I could listen to it a lot.
@@thomasbryans6547 obviously really subjective and mine has filtertrons so note which pickups are on the particular model. I think it sounds amazing with anything from a little to a lot of distortion. I’m running through a zoom board that has digital and a tube pre amp so it can really cook. Hollow body really shines at allowing a full swelling but controllable feed back but that could be the filtertrons since my other electrics are humbuckers or HSH
Would have loved to see one that's equipped with some filtertrons like a Gretsch. Their clarity is unmatched and they are hum-cancelling so they can be pushed harder before an amp without getting a buzzy mess from the tiniest light bulb
I'm listening to this on computer speakers, so I'm probably not getting the full experience. That said, I could rock out to either of those. I honestly think that this is a case of the skill of the player making a bigger impact than the tool. I could hear the difference, yes, and both were metal to me!
Thinking of getting a hollowbody and this video came up on my feed after watching your new Line6 Catalyst video and Glen man you lost weight since this one and look great 👍 keep up the healthy lifestyle man. Love your videos, really helped me learn how to track bass, vocals, and guitar over the years
The hollow body definitely had a darker tone which got a little lost in the rhythms but the lead tone (although noisy) was pretty smooth. I would take it out for the odd solo here and there, but leave the rhythms to a brighter sounding axe. Cool
And it really comes through in the sounds, I didn't once want to bang my head, and WTF were those solos?! Scales and sweep and scales and sweep and WTF was he playing? wasn't even heavy
TheMusicfan189 I have to play with people like that on a daily basis. which sucks, cause where I live there's hardly any musicians to jam with. so I'm stuck with people who have zero stage presence...
"Chocolate Flavored Starfish" eh? Must have missed that album ;) I believe the name you're looking for is Chocolate Starfish and The Hot Dog Flavored Water
I have a hollow body with active EMGs. It's one of a kind and sounds one of a kind. So a few years ago my EC1000 was in an accident and destroyed but the electronics were still good (emg 60 neck, 81 bridge). Well I had been procrastinating on finishing an Ibanez AS80 project. I got it dirt cheap because a jealous GF of some guy took a box cutter to the front and messed it up something fierce. So I refinished the front of the guitar and then installed the entire electronic suite from the ESP in it. This of course left one hole with no pot so I installed a rotary switch that kills feed to the jack so don't have to unplug to save battery. It actually sounds really good. It has a dark, deep almost booming sound but can have feedback issues when playing live where there's excess stage noise, although it's not nearly bad enough to be unplayable and I find the feedback can be an asset. I really like it.
Only one of his Framus Mayfields in a semi hollow...the rest of his guitars are solid bodies that look like semi hollows as he prefers the look of them ..i think its a fantastic idea but then Dev is a fucking awesome guy.
While they're not exactly metal and I don't find their tone particularly interesting, Breaking Benjamin's Ben Burnley uses a hollow body, baritone PRS tuned to Drop A# for some prog riffs, so there's that I guess.
Maybe his old guitars because his new ones use that ever tune system which from I understand cant be done with hollow bodies because it carves out the back of the guitar.
No mention of Brian May's Red Special? Hell, it was specifically designed with a resonance chamber to take advanttage of feedback, so it's at least a semi-hollowbody.
Good point, but chambered is not considered a hollow body. A strat is chambered. Its only partially hollow if chambered..also, I was told this by a guitar tech as well.
Very soft, doesn’t scratch the ear the way metal needs to. Great demonstration! Thank you so much for making my research brief and to the point 💪🤟🙏❤️ Really appreciate you for doing this!
I liked the lack of string noise when changing chords on the flat wounds. it I would always c house the 7 string first. In fact the first 7-string guitar WAS a hollow body. I was an Epiphone Bradway that was converted into a 7-string for it's inventor George Van Epps in 1939. Although, the concept was invented in 1935. Getting the pickup right was the hardest part. He was also the inventor of the "Drop-A " tuning as he found that it was easier to play walking basslines with the lowest string tuned the A instead of B. In fact, most Jazz 7-stringers prefer this tuning. (Myself included.)
I play a Korina body guitar because it has that hollow body sound with all the sustain of a solid body. It adds to the lower mid-range girth without flabby lows.
I totally dig the hollowbody. Oh man, you should check it out, there's a video out there somewhere of Zakk Wylde playing Mississippi Queen on an Epiphone acoustic outfitted with what looks like an EMG pickup. Totally cannot tell he's playing an acoustic if you close your eyes. One of the most awesome things I've ever seen.
The difference between the tones can probably mostly be accounted for by the pickups. That’s my first gut feeling. The jazz guitar has pickups not meant for metal in any way. I think that trumps anything to do with the body or strings. As it often does on solid body guitars.
I think the old Jazz guitar sounds amazing. I think it would do perfectly well for certain sub genres of Metal or doing covers of early Metal songs from the 1970s. It would be a really good choice for Punk Rock, Hip Hop Influenced Rock/Metal tracks & Rock/Metal Influenced Hip Hop tracks
I liked both tones, the second was especially unique. The first was tight, yet full, and had an amazingly clear sound. The second was darker and cleaner sounding, but still pulled through and managed to sound excellent in the overall mix.
I have a 1974 ibanez 2616 (es 175 copy) and it sounds incredible on my 5150 amp. just rest your hands on the strings and it stops feedback. archtops/hollow body guitars are soo underrated, they are the most comfortable guitars for me.
I wish I can go under the mentorship of some one as knowledgeable like you. I think it I had something like that it would help me tremendously to get to the next level on my playing.
I feel like the king blossom would be perfect for rhythm due to the reduced sustain and the increased clarity given to it by the semi hollow body and top. Had the Eastman had roundwound strings I think it would have stood up well to the metal rhythms. Loved the video Glen!
It would also help to have a bridge pick up as well. Tosin for a while had a hollow body 8 string guitar that he used until it was stolen (and never recovered) and that beast sounded hugeeeee. Excellent videos as always, that guitarist is sick too.
Both had great lead tone. Rich, deep, and thick individual notes. Very nice timbre. But I agree, it gets lost in the mix on the rhythm side of things. Possibly it could benefit from an EQ pedal tweaking the upper midrange, but then return to the natural signal for leads.
Where hollow bodies shine is they have a lot of harmonic overtones in the sound thanks to that resonating body. Thats a good thing for most music, but it could be problematic if your overdrive doesnt like more complicated overtones. One of the reasons we do the barre chords is that with just the tonic and dominant notes in the chord its a pretty simple waveform that distorts well. But it does depend on how your overdrive works. If its just flat out clipping things into square wave buzz saws, its going to sound terrible, but if its more of a cleaner saturating overdrive it'll sound fatter.
hollow body combined with any "clearer" guitar sound actually good since each gets there own "Bandwidth" in the spectrum pan in half left and half right with bass in the middle and it all tends to blend in perfectly... tho im not going to go in phasing stuff, but you actually have a sort of natural phasing or maybe less need to phase since the frequencies are devoted and split in bassy and not bassy, plus the bass comes from the actual bass guitar so just cut the extra if you don't know what phasing is!
It also largely depends on what you're playing through. Geordie Walker uses Framus amps and he's used a Gibson hollow body for decades. Tom Maxwell also used either a hollow or semi-hollow when he played with Nothingface. It definitely has a unique quality to it, especially when doing palm mutes. They may not be considered "metal" by current standards but they both are sure as hell heavy.
It would be interesting to use the jazz box for double tracking something more scooped. I liked the warmth that it brought to the mix. Keep it up Glenn!
You can play metal on anything... as long as you're going through a Boss Metalzone :D
ALL THE GAIN!!!
NO MIDS
SLAYER
MORE GAIN!!
Agufish fuck that, that thing is for posers, trve metalheads use the Logitech Death Metal pedal for even MOAR GAIN
Geordie the guitarist for Killing Joke has made a career playing a hollow body Gibson with tons of distortion. He uses it in a very unique way.
His tone on Killing Joke (2003) is incredible
I think it sounded a bit hollow
get out.
I think you mean semi-hollow.
smart ass
ba dum tiss
keb haha
Now play metal through a 12 string rickenbacker.
Hmmm... that might be fun
I dare you to try incorporating either a resonator guitar or a 5-string banjo into a metal production-just for the challenge of it! If it works, it will blow everyone's mind. If it doesn't work, at least we'll all have a good laugh.
Been there, done that ;)
@@GlenBerry I saw a metal band with a banjo player some years ago, can't recall the name sadly.
@@GlenBerry check out show me the body
I actually liked the Hollow Body better. Not to say it is objectively better, just something about the tone was more attractive to me. I should note though i'm not really an avid metal listener.
agreed, the hollow sounded better to me, it sounded more like a classic rock tone. And what Glenn described as more sludgy meant more dynamic to my ears, still not my choice of guitar I just prefer a less aggressive tone.
Both guitars are hollow bodies?
The Eastman sounds so full and powerful but live with a band your bass player will hate you.
shatley123 It's more of a warmer Classic Rock tone to me. I would never use my hollow body for really heavy metal tones, mabey with low gain to medium gain for some kurt rosenwinkle-ish distortion tones, but I mainly use my 8 string ibanez and esp for metal tones.
Agree
The hollow body's tone sounds really refreshing and innovating when played in Metal. I'd like to hear more of it.
It would be a nightmare live with all that gain haha maybe just try some flatwounds on a 335
You could put good pickups on a cinder block and it'd sound "metal"
It would be more rock though,
@@MR_MIRTH Cinder bRock! Metal is like the least pickup picky genre though, (aside from maybe punk) theres so much room for tone shaping with types of distortion and eq and little purist oppinions on the gear as long as it sound good together
It would still be a hollow body
I'm a beginner guitarist and I play metal on an acoustic all the time, seing as it's the only guitar I have.
I remember those days haha the good thing about that is youll be used to heavy strings though so when you get an electric youll be flying!
if you can play metal on an acoustic guitar and get it to project and be clear then actually you've got a rock solid technique that will translate very well to electric
My son too does it. Stupid. Broke his strings two times within a week
@@Balamurugan-cg1fi get him an electric
Working with what you have and making what you have work is a great skill to have. If you ever make the transition to electric guitar, it will likely make the transition easier as electric guitars are typically easier to play (lower action, better access to upper frets).
I feel like the approach here is a little misguided. I don't think we should be looking at "How does the riff I wrote on my Superstrat sound on another guitar" but rather "how can I take advantage of the different character of this guitar to make something unique?". For this video, a neck pickup only hollowbody guitar doesn't really have the bite for low quick chugs like in the example riff to sit well imo. But playing something sludgey and doomy as you said, I could see this guitar being the winner. Maybe add a second comparison where you look at what your thoughts were after round one and say "ok lets play to that strength and see what happens". I realize that the way you produce these would make that a pretty massive undertaking to add, but I think it'd be valuable. Just my 2¢, love what you do!
this is actually the most intelligent comment I have read in a while, even though this is old as fuck.
I was thinking along similar lines in that the neck-only six-string actually brought out a character in the open, chordy parts that wouldn't normally be there with that kind of tone. You're definitely right that tight palm-muting isn't gonna work the same on that kind of instrument, but for more harmonically intricate riffs it actually opens up whole new possibilities.
I think the problem with the hollowbody's tone is mostly that you chose a model with only a neck pickup and the fact that you used flatwounds. Roundwound strings and a bridge pickup would have sounded better for a metal tone. I do however agree that the lead tone was pretty badass, although it was pretty noisey
That kind of guitar needs 13 flats they were using 11 flats. With 13 flats, it even works for rhythm although ice is needed between songs if not de-tuned.
i have an aria pro 2 335 copy and it sounds really good for rhythm on on the bridge pickup
Tl:dr yes you can. You can even play metal on a ukulele. Please. (but can you play country on a baritone guitar?)
HateCreation Ask Fluff.
Fairy C Rat but he only plays avant-garde jazz blues!
country is the genre that use the most baritone guitar so yeah
Can you even play anything other than country on a baritone? Even the thought is just silly to me.
TL;DR stands for "Too long; Didn't read." Just pointing that out since it seems you didn't know that beforehand.
This guy is so fucking nice until he sees someone do something that annoys him. Then, he fucking looses it. Hence this comment
Holy shit those flatwounds sound way better than I expected. On a guitar with some higher output pups, I could see that sounding awesome for some fuzzy stoner/sludge sounds. I use flats on my main bass no idea why I've never thought to try them on guitar.
If you play a lot of cleans, they give a real nice thick vintage feel to them, especially if using swung 8th notes and when you play 7th and 9th chords. Any guitar tone before approximately mid 60s were flatwounds.
Man that guy can shred !
Kaosware i wanna know his name. maybe he has some work
petrescu andrei
He said his name.
It’s Christian... idk his last name.
I believe his name is Christian Bay.
Christian Vegh
I don't see why this is even a question. You can play metal on any instrument. It's about how you play, not what you play.
I concur. A great example is the soundchips from back on the Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis. There are songs written and played originally on that sound chip that sound metal to my ears and if you translate it onto guitars/bass/drums, it definitely sounds metal!
its very possible actually trumpet sounds pretty good with rifts and shit
DomSchu I absolutely agree. But some guitars are still better suited for a certain style than others.
its more-less if it sounds good not if you can
Yes, same is true for many games in the 90's. FF7 has some great metal covers.
All I learned is that when your guitarist is an absolute beast, you can get amazing tones from just about any instrument (except maybe an air guitar... which is too low output for any rig 😄)
The retro-guitar had great fat and warm lead tone for leads.
Gordon Freeman you can get some nice crunchy tones from a hollowbody. It sounds more grungy than metal.
I realize now it's not my guitar's fault. Gonna go cry a little bit.
7-string sounds great, like a really versatile guitar. Eastman is limited by having only neck pickup, but it is a good sound.
my brother uses hollow body, you throw an overdrive or distortion pedal on it.. its great.. sounds better than my Legator and schecter
Ken Bennett Thats common for some Jazz guitars. It's because in Jazz they most often use warm sounds with more bass on the EQ so often Jazz guitar players will only use the neck pickup hence why some don't have a bridge pickup
Got a semi hollow very thin hofner 4 years ago or something, still love how it plays and sounds. Playing very rough riffs, grunge and metal on it. Added the Fender Starcaster to the collection as well.
i really want a Gretsch to play my stoner doom with
Same
Josh Homme can do it.
C0nnie nah u need that Gibson L-5
C0nnie
Actually either one works. Its more how you play than what (model of guitar) you play. Either works fine. Just be aware that you will have a feed back issue.
I own a hollowbody, and it sounds AMAZING when you run it through a fuzz pedal. Just make sure your muting is on point, or it'll fuckin levitate from feedback
The guitar player for Stoned Jesus uses a hollow body tele on I'm the mountain. Very sick song
You meant semi hollow
I loved the jazz guitar, especially in those chords halfway , that guitar to me had originality that made it stand out from what can otherwise get to be a cliched generic tone that to be 'too many guitarist' seem content with these days.
I liked that closed-in dark sound on the rhythm, too. I preferred the tone of the 7-string on the lead however. Total opposite of Glenn. :) I'm not really a metal guy though.
Island Dreaming
I agree. The Hollowbody didn't sound as mechanical. Very pleasant and mellow. Not exactly what you'd want for Metal though.
My ears tend to prick up to something that sounds different to what everyone else sounds like. Its like some singers that make it big. It's not because their voice is better than other singers , its because its distinctive / unique.
.., I find guitar tones and songs in general in the same vein. I like Metal, but i like many other genres also . What I don't like is artists trying to clone themselves to a genre by doing what everyone else is doing like its a formula , or a rule they must adhere to , I find that really boring..., even if they are nowhere near as talented as the clone generic band, i'd prefer the unique band to listen to any day.
@Island Dreaming - That's why System of a Down made such a big impact. They were unique in an age of me-too "modern metal" and kill-me "death metal."
I seriously think this sounds unique and somewhat better than your usual video. Sometimes I get sick of hearing metal guitar tone that is too saturated, too tight and too perfect. I think they have the place in metal, a little imperfection makes some nuance
Yeee, Now i want a Hollow body or semi hollow
one thing I dont like that some people, mostly the beginners to guitar, take away from these videos is that in order to have a "metal" tone, is that you need a certain type of guitar to achieve a "metal" tone. I'm not saying you're doing something wrong, just that some people take the wrong things away from these videos. I'm not criticizing or being a douche, I'm just observing what some people think
I agree man. I play a gretsch mostly blues and jazz and ambient post rock. But if i want I can easily get a metal tone out of my gretsch sometimes I think it sounds better than my jackson and I play it with flatwounds. Pretty crazy how versatile this guitar can be. Hell I've even played drop c on an acoustic before and sounded great. Please don't tell anyone I did that though it's just blasphemy 😀
True, but I think all you need to achieve metal is not really based on the guitar, more is based on the distortion pedals. Obviously, metal has it tricks sometimes, such as making great melodies. Anyways, you could have a crappie guitar, as long as that amp and distortion pedals are on fleek, people won't notice the difference.
Plus, I dont think the sound of metal should be the foundation of how good the guitar sounds. For example, most people test their acoustic guitars by playing classical songs, to see if the guitar sounds beautiful or how it feels. I think the foundation of electric guitars, should be how clear they sound, and how you dont get interference.
Actually, as someone who wants to learn, but knows next to nothing, I really didn't think the kind of guitar mattered. I thought any electric could be used for metal as long as it could be distorted.
I have a Höfner HI-459 which is a fully hollowbody guitar. I find that it does work extremely well for hard rock and heavy metal music. This came as a shock to me when I was messing around one day.
a 7 string hollow body wow...
marco heide there are 8 string acoustics and semihollows out there. 7 string acoustics have been out for years
marco heide I got a 12 string
marco heide The first seven string electrics were hollow bodies. Jazz guys wanted them for more interesting chord voicings.
If I recall correctly, Gretsch made the first good one for George Van Eps, he played it with a high A
n Low A, not high A
You’re channel fucking rocks man. It’s obvious you do your homework and I appreciate it. Other channels should look up to this one as an example of consistently providing value
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Can you play METAL on an AVRIL LAVIGNE SIGNATURE TELECASTER?
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66Samus fuck yeah samus
Benjamin Burnley from Breaking Benjamin played a PRS Baritone Hollowbody on several albums and live. Beautiful guitar, even better sound.
You can certainly play prog and hard rock. Alex Lifeson played a ES355* semi-hollow on all of the great early Rush stuff. Steve Howe played an ES-175 and ES-345 on most Yes records. I know this is hard rock but Pete Townshend recorded Who's Next with a Gretsch Chet Atkins.
I love the tone of semi/fully hollow guitars in rock, prog, and metal. They certainly bring some great tones to table. I'd love to see more heavy bands incorporating them into their music.
Rock on, Glenn!
Edit: Hollowbody 7 string?! Awesome.
Pepper Keenan (Down, Corrosion of Conformity) plays an ES-335, it sounds fucking fat through his Orange amps.
Richard Harrold you're right! I fixed it.
Billy Duffy from the Cult comes to mind as well with his White Falcon.
Also, Brent Hinds of Mastodon sometimes plays using a Lucille and a vintage (1970's era) ES-335.
I think he uses a Gretsch Country Gentleman for some studio work, as well. Even more "out of the box" than a 335.
Dave Grohl (Foo fighters) has a signature Gibson ES-335 Lopez
FINALLY someone actually made this! been looking for a hollowbody test for metal these years, thanks glenn!
rule #6 - everything can be metal if you try!
To many rules ...I quit
Greig Williamson right. I always think these videos are dumb. you can play anything with any guitar. i've plugged in an electric acoustic and distorted the shit out of it.
I have a Gretsch electromatic and I play master of puppets with it. It doesn't sound bad at all. It also adds something to a mix when mixed in with a solidbody.
Been up all night. Originally read that as Master of Muppets. LOL, you still got a grammar error, but not that way.
@@samsanimationcorner3820 Pastor of Muppets
You can manipulate the feedback to create some really cool effects
Jim Root has always used a Fender in Slipknot which is kinda awesome. His playing was always super creative and edgy, let alone his choice of gear for metal.
Metal in general sounds so similar...
anything different is good in my book.
The Epiphone Casino is one of the few semi-acoustic guitars that I definitely would recommend for hard rock and heavy metal music, albeit as a rhythm guitar, not as a lead guitar.
Since semi-acoustic guitars are generally better as rhythm guitars in hard rock and heavy metal, based on my observation. For the best possible results, I would recommend playing as far away from the amplifier as possible. Or use ƒ-hole plugs to minimise feedback.
In a studio setting it's pretty easy to do, but live is tough. I used to occasionally use a Gretsch 5120, but it requires some pretty extreme noise suppressor settings to keep the feedback manageable under high gain.
You know what? I think they work! Since a lot of modern metal chord progressions are very similar to jazz it really seems to fit well. I like this! I could listen to it a lot.
I liked them both, I've cranked up my Gretsch with good results and actually my Ovation mandolin is fantastic through tube distortion.
PLEASE make a video with the distorted mandolin
I'm looking at getting a Gretsch semi-hollow. How does it sound through heavy distortion?
@@thomasbryans6547 obviously really subjective and mine has filtertrons so note which pickups are on the particular model. I think it sounds amazing with anything from a little to a lot of distortion. I’m running through a zoom board that has digital and a tube pre amp so it can really cook. Hollow body really shines at allowing a full swelling but controllable feed back but that could be the filtertrons since my other electrics are humbuckers or HSH
Would have loved to see one that's equipped with some filtertrons like a Gretsch. Their clarity is unmatched and they are hum-cancelling so they can be pushed harder before an amp without getting a buzzy mess from the tiniest light bulb
I'm listening to this on computer speakers, so I'm probably not getting the full experience. That said, I could rock out to either of those. I honestly think that this is a case of the skill of the player making a bigger impact than the tool. I could hear the difference, yes, and both were metal to me!
Thinking of getting a hollowbody and this video came up on my feed after watching your new Line6 Catalyst video and Glen man you lost weight since this one and look great 👍 keep up the healthy lifestyle man. Love your videos, really helped me learn how to track bass, vocals, and guitar over the years
ben wienman from the dillinger escape plan uses
hollow bodies
Semi Hollow
im not a big fan of mathcore so... i just i saw some picturs of hime with a hollow body not semi hollow
The hollow body definitely had a darker tone which got a little lost in the rhythms but the lead tone (although noisy) was pretty smooth. I would take it out for the odd solo here and there, but leave the rhythms to a brighter sounding axe. Cool
I've never seen a guitar player look so disinterested while playing.
And it really comes through in the sounds, I didn't once want to bang my head, and WTF were those solos?! Scales and sweep and scales and sweep and WTF was he playing? wasn't even heavy
Glad it's not just me. Very boring.
Maybe Math Metal is what he is into?
TheMusicfan189 I have to play with people like that on a daily basis. which sucks, cause where I live there's hardly any musicians to jam with. so I'm stuck with people who have zero stage presence...
he's primarily a jazz guitarist, so his soloing style can be very hit or miss for metal. personally a huge fan, but to each their own
I honestly enjoy hearing your little history lesson on guitars. As easy as it would be to look it up myself, I really liked your voice explaining it
HELL YEAH
DISTORT AN ACOUSTIC NOW
DO IT MY MAN
I like that Eastman with high gain. Fuzzy but not sinister. Colorful and I imagine it’d work well for melodic screamo.
"Chocolate Flavored Starfish" eh? Must have missed that album ;)
I believe the name you're looking for is Chocolate Starfish and The Hot Dog Flavored Water
TeslaOsiris doesn’t matter, limp bisquick sucks.
Trump is Number ONE! who the fuck is limp bisquick
That Awk Guy It's some band that sometimes plays in the Lincoln Park neighborhood of Chicago.
jonnda never been there so I wouldn't know
That Awk Guy That's alright. Some moron misspelled it, so it might have been difficult to find your way there anyway.
I have a hollow body with active EMGs. It's one of a kind and sounds one of a kind.
So a few years ago my EC1000 was in an accident and destroyed but the electronics were still good (emg 60 neck, 81 bridge).
Well I had been procrastinating on finishing an Ibanez AS80 project. I got it dirt cheap because a jealous GF of some guy took a box cutter to the front and messed it up something fierce.
So I refinished the front of the guitar and then installed the entire electronic suite from the ESP in it. This of course left one hole with no pot so I installed a rotary switch that kills feed to the jack so don't have to unplug to save battery.
It actually sounds really good. It has a dark, deep almost booming sound but can have feedback issues when playing live where there's excess stage noise, although it's not nearly bad enough to be unplayable and I find the feedback can be an asset. I really like it.
The yellow guitar sounded tasty
Yeah the tones are fine. But I think you would get feedback in an actual band setting turning up loud enough to compensate for the drums and bass
Devin Townsend plays a hollow-body Framus
andrew from torche used one while he was in the band as well. and ben from helms alee plays a jazzmaster
ignore every convention & expectation!
Only one of his Framus Mayfields in a semi hollow...the rest of his guitars are solid bodies that look like semi hollows as he prefers the look of them ..i think its a fantastic idea but then Dev is a fucking awesome guy.
While they're not exactly metal and I don't find their tone particularly interesting, Breaking Benjamin's Ben Burnley uses a hollow body, baritone PRS tuned to Drop A# for some prog riffs, so there's that I guess.
Maybe his old guitars because his new ones use that ever tune system which from I understand cant be done with hollow bodies because it carves out the back of the guitar.
I play heavy on a PRS semi hollow and I love the way it sounds.
Hollows and Semi Hollows sound pretty sick in Doom/Stoner Metal. I know a couple local bands that have used them on tracks
I love to use them for kyuss songs, works really well
@@Timmsalabim1 that's pretty dope.
The Blossom 7 String has a wicked reverb and rhythm sound, but that lead sound on the Eastman is absolutely killer.
No mention of Brian May's Red Special? Hell, it was specifically designed with a resonance chamber to take advanttage of feedback, so it's at least a semi-hollowbody.
Came here looking for this, if you didn't say it I was going to.
Good point, but chambered is not considered a hollow body. A strat is chambered. Its only partially hollow if chambered..also, I was told this by a guitar tech as well.
@@anthonyvillalba824 Fair enough.
Very soft, doesn’t scratch the ear the way metal needs to.
Great demonstration! Thank you so much for making my research brief and to the point 💪🤟🙏❤️
Really appreciate you for doing this!
A "Can You Play" that actually makes some decent sense?! What's gonna happen next, Rob Scallon playing a normal six string guitar in a metal song?
Tom Morello also used to play with a Hollowbody, especially on Guerrila Radio and it sounded pretty great actually
Damn, that Eastman is SICK. Too bad it doesn't sound anywhere near what I'd expect for Metal.. but for clean and mellow tunes, it must be amazing!
Well, it only has a neck pickup. I don't know what you were expecting.
I like beck, but his pickups aren't quite "where it's at" for the genre
I bet for fuzzed-out blues leads it owns.
That one with the flat wounds!!! **starry eyes**
I love the HELL out of that tone!
You've got to do some more bass videos for us troglodytes.
Now in bassist: you glen do a vidos on bas cuz i lik bas
bass is lif
Nolan brother... you have forsaken me
This is why people think bassists are autistic. Thanks, you pair of brain dead turkeys.
Nolan You *like* Bass
Bassist=Lack of English skills. 😂
MOTLEYCRUEFAN 198 I'm a bassist ... and I'm ashamed to be with people like that calling themselves bassists as well.
I liked the lack of string noise when changing chords on the flat wounds. it I would always c house the 7 string first. In fact the first 7-string guitar WAS a hollow body. I was an Epiphone Bradway that was converted into a 7-string for it's inventor George Van Epps in 1939. Although, the concept was invented in 1935. Getting the pickup right was the hardest part. He was also the inventor of the "Drop-A " tuning as he found that it was easier to play walking basslines with the lowest string tuned the A instead of B. In fact, most Jazz 7-stringers prefer this tuning. (Myself included.)
If I'm not mistaken Tosin Abasi had (semi?) hollow Strandberg ... so I wouldn't say it's that uncommon ... :)
Well, the hollow body did have some very nice lead tones. And boy could that dude shred, same with Tosin of course.
Loved what he played, is it an actual song or is it something made just for this video?
They sound really good, but not for metal at least for me, I'll probably use them for rock tho
I play a Korina body guitar because it has that hollow body sound with all the sustain of a solid body. It adds to the lower mid-range girth without flabby lows.
Two words: Ted Nugent
He's southern and hard rock not metal
Luis Lopez Might want to double check & go through some of his catalogue then....
@@LuisLopez-fq5sz how is he southern if he's from Michigan?
what'S this NuDjent i keep hearing about? :D
tkugsify
He meant southern rock and hard rock, genius.
I totally dig the hollowbody. Oh man, you should check it out, there's a video out there somewhere of Zakk Wylde playing Mississippi Queen on an Epiphone acoustic outfitted with what looks like an EMG pickup. Totally cannot tell he's playing an acoustic if you close your eyes. One of the most awesome things I've ever seen.
You know how dads and grandpas you pissed off
The difference between the tones can probably mostly be accounted for by the pickups. That’s my first gut feeling. The jazz guitar has pickups not meant for metal in any way. I think that trumps anything to do with the body or strings. As it often does on solid body guitars.
is it just me or is the guitar basically inaudible in the mix apart from the solo
Napkin Shoplifta' I've noticed that in a lot of the mixes for these videos as well.
Yup thats how all metal music is loud destorted and inaudible
91doctorj
Sorry would you mind being a little more ignorant, and generalise a little more? Also, evidence please
Sam Vimes touche
Metal mixing is mostly Drums and lead guitar
Rythm and bass are mixed together, for the most part.
Not how I approach it but that's the common ground.
I think the old Jazz guitar sounds amazing.
I think it would do perfectly well for certain sub genres of Metal or doing covers of early Metal songs from the 1970s.
It would be a really good choice for Punk Rock, Hip Hop Influenced Rock/Metal tracks & Rock/Metal Influenced Hip Hop tracks
The Nuge made his Gibson Byrdland hollow body sound like a hard rockin' monster in his 70's era prime. Still does, actually.
Love that mix dude, amazing solo
Thanks!
"chocolate flavoured starfish album" ffs
lmao get with it granddad gaaawd
Who gives a fuck?
I use my dangelico ss for everything from jazz to industrial and it sounds amazing for metal
For anyone who doesn't wanna hear him talk anymore, the actual guitar playing starts at 3:29
I liked both tones, the second was especially unique. The first was tight, yet full, and had an amazingly clear sound. The second was darker and cleaner sounding, but still pulled through and managed to sound excellent in the overall mix.
The 7 string did really well. The jazz… let's not talk about that one…
I have a 1974 ibanez 2616 (es 175 copy) and it sounds incredible on my 5150 amp. just rest your hands on the strings and it stops feedback. archtops/hollow body guitars are soo underrated, they are the most comfortable guitars for me.
Great guitar player in the vid, but I'm sorry he looks like such a derp....
Let's see your face, Eli.
Who gives a rip, man? The dude can play! What do you gain from criticizing someone's looks, whom no one can control? Metal was never a beauty pageant.
I wish I can go under the mentorship of some one as knowledgeable like you. I think it I had something like that it would help me tremendously to get to the next level on my playing.
Shit biscuit
Oh man, i love that muddy thick sound comming out of the Hollow Body, love some QOTSA like Stoner tone with Hollow Body and some overdrive/fuzz
I feel like the king blossom would be perfect for rhythm due to the reduced sustain and the increased clarity given to it by the semi hollow body and top. Had the Eastman had roundwound strings I think it would have stood up well to the metal rhythms. Loved the video Glen!
Used to own an Ibanez Artcore, the full size hallowbody. I absolutely loved playing metal on it. That was a great guitar for just over $300
It would also help to have a bridge pick up as well. Tosin for a while had a hollow body 8 string guitar that he used until it was stolen (and never recovered) and that beast sounded hugeeeee.
Excellent videos as always, that guitarist is sick too.
Both had great lead tone. Rich, deep, and thick individual notes. Very nice timbre. But I agree, it gets lost in the mix on the rhythm side of things. Possibly it could benefit from an EQ pedal tweaking the upper midrange, but then return to the natural signal for leads.
Of course you can... That's what I started on. Ibanez AF55 with Duncan Pearly Gates. Sounded awesome.
Where hollow bodies shine is they have a lot of harmonic overtones in the sound thanks to that resonating body. Thats a good thing for most music, but it could be problematic if your overdrive doesnt like more complicated overtones. One of the reasons we do the barre chords is that with just the tonic and dominant notes in the chord its a pretty simple waveform that distorts well. But it does depend on how your overdrive works. If its just flat out clipping things into square wave buzz saws, its going to sound terrible, but if its more of a cleaner saturating overdrive it'll sound fatter.
Glenn, you are rapidly becoming my favorite RUclips dude. Keep on doing your thing and fuck all the haters!!
hollow body combined with any "clearer" guitar sound actually good since each gets there own "Bandwidth" in the spectrum pan in half left and half right with bass in the middle and it all tends to blend in perfectly... tho im not going to go in phasing stuff, but you actually have a sort of natural phasing or maybe less need to phase since the frequencies are devoted and split in bassy and not bassy, plus the bass comes from the actual bass guitar so just cut the extra if you don't know what phasing is!
It also largely depends on what you're playing through. Geordie Walker uses Framus amps and he's used a Gibson hollow body for decades. Tom Maxwell also used either a hollow or semi-hollow when he played with Nothingface. It definitely has a unique quality to it, especially when doing palm mutes. They may not be considered "metal" by current standards but they both are sure as hell heavy.
I like the Eastman with flatwounds. It has some real heft to the tone. I play doom metal, and might try a set of them.
It would be interesting to use the jazz box for double tracking something more scooped. I liked the warmth that it brought to the mix. Keep it up Glenn!
Wow, the Eastman sounded really good from not a metal fan! Well done