This is a tribute to the Era of the World Sportcar Prototype Championship - Group C. Video footage from: lemans24gtone Music: Two Steps From Hell - After The Fall
M. G. How old are you? I'm 15, born in 2002... I'm not from that era, are you? But I have a knowledge about Prototype cars + historic prototype cars thanks to the video game "Gran Turismo"...
Cool, I've played them all in my video game and they do exist, except for the Porsche... my favorite was the merdeces Sauber c9 with well over 370 kph. www.flickr.com/photos/nbdesignz/14396765721 This is a picture of the Sauber the Mazda in the video game... Ikr the graphics is jaw dropping lol xD
@@magnom3922 keep dreaming pal. If the others wouldn't breaked, Mazda wouldn't had won that race. I know, the car looked cool and sounded amazing, but it's rivals were 5+ sec faster. I don't take merits from Herbert, Gachot and co, thou.
@@Ihelpanytime Of course LMP cars are quicker than Group C cars, they came tens of years later. But Group C cars are still fondly remembered as the peak of endurance racing, with ground effect being first introduced in sports cars, with numerous factory teams fighting against each other, and the sheer diversity between the cars. On the same grid, Porsche, with a twin-turbo flat 6, competed alongside Mercedes' twin-turbo V8, Jaguar's NA V12, and Mazda's 4-rotor engines. Unfortunately, being born in 2000, I never had the chance to witness these monsters but I wish that, one day, endurance racing can reach the heights of Group C
@@Ihelpanytime If a Group C/GTP car was built today with todays technology and materials it would destroy a LMP1. These cars had way more down force, they were hitting 250 MPH in straights BACK THEN. In fact the new super cars that are hitting 300MPH already are basically modern group C/GTP cars with similar body styles for those levels of down force, but with todays technology.
@@Ihelpanytime it's always good to see true passion. But bear in mind one thing: the mere top speed or top acceleration or best record lap obtained nowadays is "obvious" to get. Technology helps in every corner: computerized simulations upfront, materials knowledge, manufacturing so precise to be unseen by human eyes but effective for a computer controlled machine even when producing a rivet. Back in the '80s was still a world where projects were rarely computerized: it was still pen, paper, engineers ideas and testing. Computers were at the dawn and used as telemetry after building the car with few informations compared to nowadays. Have a look to car-cams from GroupC, Rally, F1 in the '80s-'90s and make a visual comparison to today's car-cams. It should give you immediately the difference at least about car's behaviour and smoothness of drive. The "way" to reach and drive at 320km/h back in the '80s was absolutely another world compared to cruise now at 350km/h. Today's drivers can't even imagine it: they drive on a railway compared to 30 years ago. The human factor now has become a mere technical-precision on doing what is needed to put the car in the condition wrote by a man-aided with a computer. Back then was almost guessing, was pure unknow to be discovered just once on Mulsanne at 330km/h. This makes the difference.
JRR. you get an MTV and AVA award for this work of art! Judging by the comments below, you nailed it! This truely captures why there is such a love for man and machine!
What a great iconic era in motorsport. The cars, the drivers... the sounds, the smell .. the speed... amazing cars they were...Great video showcasing the monsters from the past...thank you for sharing..
Requirements to drive these monsters........ Have massive ball's, and be able to put 140kg of pressure on the break for hours. Awesome cars. Awesome drivers :)
No paddle shifts , real stick shifts , 240 mph plus, they were awesome spectacles as were the MEN who drove them .Sadly their days came to pass . 2012 is the year they will return to open at Le Mans in vintage racing ... the Gods of racing may smile upon them as the fans will clamor their return and once more the tracks will bear the thunder of the mighty Group C . The music score is most appropriate for this tribute and should be named for those of us who do not know the title
I'm a guy that likes to hear the sound of the vehicles instead of music, but in this case the music by " Two Steps From Hell" called "After The Fall (No Voice)" is just perfect.
As my d+t teacher used to say when i was in school. Quuwwwality. Vaguely remember silk cut cigarette adverts at airports showing the jaguars when i was a young-un. Knew it had some connection with my racing car styled pedal go kart but couldn't work out why.
With the popularity of historical type racing and the amount of interest in group C prototype cars and group B rally cars I wonder what would happen if IMSA and the FIA rewound the rule books to the days of group C an B but with today's technology safety and materials. I mean take say the E-Tron put one of Audi's monster I5 motors into that car or any of today's top chassis and put the 1200 to 1500bhp monster engines of the late 80s early 90s qualifying packages combined with modern hybrid power systems what would happen. Just how fast would this modern group c car be at le mon . Now this is what I'd pay good money for
No, it's a 767B. The 767B had the engine radiators on either side of the engine itself, whereas the 787B had the radiator in the nose, resulting in a completely different nose shape.
Why both of you guys are angry? Oh, I forgot...welcome to the internet... xD. Group C race cars have higher top speed than F1s, due to lower drag and higher HP, but their weight are as heavy as two F1s, which allows F1 cars to be faster than Group C around the track. But they have lower top speed due to the lack of transmission.
They don't want people dying. Despite loving group B and C, it was a carnificine. Going down the mulsanne at 250mph or sliding in the dirt 2 feet from the crowd with up to 1000hp rally cars has already caused enough fatalities.
Group C and Group B are perfect example of why free formula for rules just can't work, you end up with extremely dangerous championship, but a competitive one or uncompetitive one, but not as dangerous.
Like raceing cars design and drive it those race car as back up driver like drive postion at soft gear shift like design me sport car insipred from GROUP C RACE CAR DESIGN CUES
What I hate about Gran Turismo is that they only gave us 7 cars out of these monsters... I wish the Lamborghini, XJR-11, R91CP, Sauber C11, Minolta 90-CV, and Porsche 962C exist so I can play them, at least in GT Sport 2.
Xerro No Vatimo Lol... but the cars we have in Gran Turismo: Nissan R89c, Nissan R92CP, Jaguar XJR-9 '89, Mercedes Sauber C9 '89, Toyota Minolta 88-cv, Peugeot 905B Evo 1 bis, Mazda 787B '91.
no music on racing videos please.
Víctor
No, I disagree, I like this epic montage.
Víctor ruclips.net/video/YxLHAeLPjLY/видео.html
How about you make your own video?
@@kanoka_echo Thank you.
Yes let's hear the bone shaking revs of the cars instead
FIA never helped MotorSport in anyway, leave us alone FIA, let us hear this engine sound again,let racing be racing again
How could you NOT like this? Even my mum goes "WOW" whenever I show her a Group C video.
the best days of Motorsport!!
no doubt
I agree
This was peak
If you think f1 is more competitive, group c is on another level
Being a Motorsport fan back then was fantastic! Turbo era F1, Group B, Group C, and the most amazing Paris Dakar fields.
This was peak motorsport it never got better than this
I think THIS was the Pinnacle of automotive racing.
I agree.
I saw these cars at Le Mans 88 in the straight line of the Hunaudières at 250mph, it was another dimension...
M. G. How old are you? I'm 15, born in 2002... I'm not from that era, are you?
But I have a knowledge about Prototype cars + historic prototype cars thanks to the video game "Gran Turismo"...
Cool, I've played them all in my video game and they do exist, except for the Porsche... my favorite was the merdeces Sauber c9 with well over 370 kph.
www.flickr.com/photos/nbdesignz/14396765721
This is a picture of the Sauber the Mazda in the video game... Ikr the graphics is jaw dropping lol xD
Sauber c9 in real at Le Mans 89 400kph !
M. G. 401 to be exact xD... the Le Mans record for the highest top speed ever reached.
I help anytime you're wrong m8. The record is hold by the WM P88 Peugeot. 405 km/h in 1988.
This was pure racing....engines , drivers , cars , poetry in motion......... never more....glad to be alive those days
Why wasn't I alive to see this?!
i absolutely get the chills. watching the Nissans turbo power. And the Mazda 767B OMG! only Japanese auto Brand to win at Lemans!
Enrique Moreno until Toyota in 2018
The Mercs, Porsches and the Jaguars were better, Mazda was a litle lucky...
@@milesr4609 they let Mazda run a lighter less restricted car and it was still slow as shit they definitely got lucky
@@hi_c.v7289 imo, it was raw skill and precision
@@magnom3922 keep dreaming pal. If the others wouldn't breaked, Mazda wouldn't had won that race. I know, the car looked cool and sounded amazing, but it's rivals were 5+ sec faster. I don't take merits from Herbert, Gachot and co, thou.
Great video and perfect music! Group C!! Era of the GODS!!! Miss it so much!!
@@Ihelpanytime Of course LMP cars are quicker than Group C cars, they came tens of years later. But Group C cars are still fondly remembered as the peak of endurance racing, with ground effect being first introduced in sports cars, with numerous factory teams fighting against each other, and the sheer diversity between the cars. On the same grid, Porsche, with a twin-turbo flat 6, competed alongside Mercedes' twin-turbo V8, Jaguar's NA V12, and Mazda's 4-rotor engines. Unfortunately, being born in 2000, I never had the chance to witness these monsters but I wish that, one day, endurance racing can reach the heights of Group C
@@Ihelpanytime If a Group C/GTP car was built today with todays technology and materials it would destroy a LMP1. These cars had way more down force, they were hitting 250 MPH in straights BACK THEN. In fact the new super cars that are hitting 300MPH already are basically modern group C/GTP cars with similar body styles for those levels of down force, but with todays technology.
@@Ihelpanytime it's always good to see true passion.
But bear in mind one thing: the mere top speed or top acceleration or best record lap obtained nowadays is "obvious" to get.
Technology helps in every corner: computerized simulations upfront, materials knowledge, manufacturing so precise to be unseen by human eyes but effective for a computer controlled machine even when producing a rivet.
Back in the '80s was still a world where projects were rarely computerized: it was still pen, paper, engineers ideas and testing.
Computers were at the dawn and used as telemetry after building the car with few informations compared to nowadays.
Have a look to car-cams from GroupC, Rally, F1 in the '80s-'90s and make a visual comparison to today's car-cams.
It should give you immediately the difference at least about car's behaviour and smoothness of drive.
The "way" to reach and drive at 320km/h back in the '80s was absolutely another world compared to cruise now at 350km/h.
Today's drivers can't even imagine it: they drive on a railway compared to 30 years ago.
The human factor now has become a mere technical-precision on doing what is needed to put the car in the condition wrote by a man-aided with a computer.
Back then was almost guessing, was pure unknow to be discovered just once on Mulsanne at 330km/h.
This makes the difference.
JRR. you get an MTV and AVA award for this work of art! Judging by the comments below, you nailed it! This truely captures why there is such a love for man and machine!
No boring electric,no hybrid,only power and big balls
the best and most impressive group C tribute ever! LOVE IT!
YES YES YES !!!
When will there be a group c documentary? I hope some time soon, before legends who drove this cars pass away. It would be a great story loss
Group C and Two steps from hell music... A good mix 👍
What a great iconic era in motorsport. The cars, the drivers... the sounds, the smell .. the speed... amazing cars they were...Great video showcasing the monsters from the past...thank you for sharing..
Noobs, just go back to your GTR, Supras and else...real motorsports fans love THIS!!!!
Porsche 956 and Mazda 787b engines are something ever Unheard...beautiful
Actually downloaded the song after this video, but just isnt the same without the video to go with it.
Fantastic tribute! :) 5*
very nicely done. Great sportscars
Requirements to drive these monsters........ Have massive ball's, and be able to put 140kg of pressure on the break for hours. Awesome cars. Awesome drivers :)
Those Saubers look so good
No paddle shifts , real stick shifts , 240 mph plus, they were awesome spectacles as were the MEN who drove them .Sadly their days came to pass . 2012 is the year they will return to open at Le Mans in vintage racing ... the Gods of racing may smile upon them as the fans will clamor their return and once more the tracks will bear the thunder of the mighty Group C . The music score is most appropriate for this tribute and should be named for those of us who do not know the title
Am I the only one who feels that these cars feel more futuristic than Garage 56?
Not just you, the C9 alone looks like a spaceship
still the best motorsport video i've seen on youtube!
This was absolutely stunning.
Loved it.
True monsters
When they bring back group B and group C, i will start watching motorsports again.
I hope we see another era of sports car racing where the field of prototypes is as large as the group c era
I've loved Group C race cars since I was a kid! I always thought they looked awesome, and they were SO fast. 240+ mph at Le Mans!
Blown4banger
Sorry, but their average top speed is 210 mph, they rarely reach 240-50 as a matter fact...
Imagining driving an Porsche 962 or Sauber C9 on a freeway.
nothing defines glorious more...
Beautiful video! Pure magic 🖤
Wow, fantastic video, good music... Ialmost cried.
you got that too?!
Superb Video of the best Race-Cars ever ! Thanks !
This was the time from right motorsport
I'm a guy that likes to hear the sound of the vehicles instead of music, but in this case the music by " Two Steps From Hell" called "After The Fall (No Voice)" is just perfect.
i wish i was born on that time
Absolutely fantastic video, Great work!
Fantastic video, thanks for sharing!
@JRRacing64 Wops sorry, i was in a trance state for the sound of the mazda and the porsche!
Someone needs to make a game with all of these cars.
Gran Turismo has almost all of them
Congratulations! Great video! These machines still unbearable. And always will be ...
i donot know that much about but group c but after watching this i was amazed ,i was a le mans fan and i am stil a fan of it
I remember a Nissan race car that had a 570 horsepower 4 cylinder engine. It was made in the 1970s or 1980s.
porsche 962 wins at lemans 1987.
jaguar xjr-8 almost sweeps the season and wins the championship 1987 and 1988 (xjr-9)
The best era.
not only fast, Group C cars are beautiful
They are fast in a straight line, but for lap times, nowadays hybrid prototypes could easily outrun them.
Forget the high technology prototypes cars like Audi R10 and Toyota TS30 ,just bring back the old C group cars plzz
Great stuff. Where did you get the footage from?
As my d+t teacher used to say when i was in school. Quuwwwality. Vaguely remember silk cut cigarette adverts at airports showing the jaguars when i was a young-un. Knew it had some connection with my racing car styled pedal go kart but couldn't work out why.
Jaguar XJR-11 '90 looks monstrous! I wish Polyphony add it in GT Sport, it's better than the XJR-9 which made its debut in GT4.
well i hope so, but i think that they will focus to the new cars now :/
DJ Khaled
Well, at least modern prototypes are faster in real life.
great video!
I did not click the like.
Just bc it was 962 of them already.
Not joking :)
787B✨
Love It !
Thanks For teaching me something
With the popularity of historical type racing and the amount of interest in group C prototype cars and group B rally cars I wonder what would happen if IMSA and the FIA rewound the rule books to the days of group C an B but with today's technology safety and materials. I mean take say the E-Tron put one of Audi's monster I5 motors into that car or any of today's top chassis and put the 1200 to 1500bhp monster engines of the late 80s early 90s qualifying packages combined with modern hybrid power systems what would happen. Just how fast would this modern group c car be at le mon . Now this is what I'd pay good money for
Are there any YT channels that post retro rallies/races of Group C / Group B / Group 5?
No, it's a 767B. The 767B had the engine radiators on either side of the engine itself, whereas the 787B had the radiator in the nose, resulting in a completely different nose shape.
Nicely done.
Group C cars, best cars on earth ever. No other can reach them.
You know nothing about race cars. Nothing kid.Vorpal
Vorpal
Yes, you know nothing about cars, moron. :-)
Go and play Halo.
Vorpal
Go and play halo moron. That's you know about.About race cars u know nothing.
Vorpal
what channel you mean? :-))
Why both of you guys are angry? Oh, I forgot...welcome to the internet... xD.
Group C race cars have higher top speed than F1s, due to lower drag and higher HP, but their weight are as heavy as two F1s, which allows F1 cars to be faster than Group C around the track. But they have lower top speed due to the lack of transmission.
I still don't understand why the FIA killed Group C.
To force manufacturers into F1.
very old comment but I think spiralling costs was one of the reasons
"the lemans series needs to bring back group c race cars back"
That makes no sense.
Deslikes are from the guys that love hybrid vibrators
Bet they are street ricers, fans of Fast and furious bull...
When Acheson crashed in the last round in Mexico it was horrible.
I hope they will bring it back...... but i don't think they will.
They don't want people die.
Legends 💥💥💥🚀🚀🚀
Aston Martin AMR1 great sound
your music made this video unenjoyable. thanks for sharing though!
I loved it..........
the Group C will be returned in 2014 see information about lemans...
What song is that man?
@TheClarksonist Thank you!
Great film but WHY NO ENGINE NOISE !?!?!
Y every single one tribute has that epic music chosen.
+Mantas Isganaitis common youtube rookie mistake. worse, putting it over the sounds of group c!
goood times!!
The Lamborghini insn't known over here.
1:24 + 1:29
1:23 best inside pass ever.
@TMDVP93 Most of it was from RUclips. Check out "lemans24gtone" channel.
They don't want people dying. Despite loving group B and C, it was a carnificine. Going down the mulsanne at 250mph or sliding in the dirt 2 feet from the crowd with up to 1000hp rally cars has already caused enough fatalities.
1:25
I didnt mean that... (I only now noticed the writing mistake)
Go build a time machine first.
Sauber vs 787b for me
Group C and Group B are perfect example of why free formula for rules just can't work, you end up with extremely dangerous championship, but a competitive one or uncompetitive one, but not as dangerous.
no Lancia...
where are lancia LC1 o LC2!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Los pelos de punta...
@Baubauzable It's in the description.
whats with the music? Need to here the cars!
i know that i typed it wrong
0.27. The Banshee Rotary
0:52 Toyota minolta
Like raceing cars design and drive it those race car as back up driver like drive postion at soft gear shift like design me sport car insipred from GROUP C RACE CAR DESIGN CUES
Just keep pressing 2. :)
0:08 787B
what?
What I hate about Gran Turismo is that they only gave us 7 cars out of these monsters... I wish the Lamborghini, XJR-11, R91CP, Sauber C11, Minolta 90-CV, and Porsche 962C exist so I can play them, at least in GT Sport 2.
and forza has what? like 4? all with incorrect statistics? you guys are lucky in the quantity regard
Xerro No Vatimo
Lol... but the cars we have in Gran Turismo: Nissan R89c, Nissan R92CP, Jaguar XJR-9 '89, Mercedes Sauber C9 '89, Toyota Minolta 88-cv, Peugeot 905B Evo 1 bis, Mazda 787B '91.
we have the xjr9,787b,962,r91, and the 905
Xerro No Vatimo
Unfortunately... we won't have any Group C cars in GT Sport ;((( (Nor LMP900s, we'll only have modern LMP1s)...
Rip, good thing i'm getting forza 7